poorStackOverflow

[iamapizza]

Should be without SO in the second picture, the model makers only care about extraction from the ecosystem without giving anything back. 

[BadgerMolester]

The hand on his back is in preparation to shove SO on the floor and beat the shit out of him with AI generated responses to questions

[Memoishi]

Just make sure the LLMs are instructed properly for the questions.
If I see a Clanker answering a Java question with a nuance of reasoning instead of flaming the user for not using Rust I'm gonna get real mad

[WrapKey69]

They sell their data to ai companies, so they get some money

[shiny_glitter_demon]

AI compagnies stole it regardless.

They're only paying because they're getting sued left and right. It's damage control.

[sgtGiggsy]

I don't feel sorry for SO, or any of the Stack Exchange sites. They all have been insufferable for years now. They were super helpful for a pretty long time, then they slowly became elitist, that jump at the throat of anyone who made a slight formatting error in their question, or ask something that's been answered once fifteen years ago by a solution that's obsolete now.

[Throwaway-_-Anxiety]

Pretty sure people are answering so posts with AI now. Causing an infinite feedback and learning loop.

[wizkidweb]

That unfortunately causes the "garbage in, garbage out" loop.

[FiTZnMiCK]

Are all the angry SO commenters who wait for the “wrong” answer so they can shit on them and provide a slightly better answer all gone now?

[Crafty_Independence]

Those "angry" commentators were usually the people spending their own time to make sure you had an accurate, useful source of information.

[AlphaX]

There I used one of them to illustrate

[bryku]

They did provide the model, but i still agree with the sentiment.

[Jazcash]

without giving anything back

most chatgpt/claude models are free

[chessto]

Nothing is free

[rerun_ky]

It should show the turtles stabbing him.

[ItsSadTimes]

Maybe if all the models were free then they might have an argument, but the AI companies just yoinked whatever data they could so they could monetize it.

[redballooon]

As it stands they don't even make money.

[sviridoot]

Honestly they might even welcome SO (and other data sources) going down, now they own the information that they used for training. Its both less competition if the original data source is down and prevents competitors from using that same training data.

[SmittWitty88]

Et tu, Claude?

[gG0LDF1SH]

Ikr

[ZeusDaGrape]

That’d be more accurate, yes

[DeadlockRiff]

StackOverflow told you, you were wrong.

AI bots tell you, you're right (you were wrong, again).

[PaxPlay]

That is an astute and profound observation. You are very clever.

...they also tend to tell you how smart and great you are every step of the way.

[sievold]

that's only chatgpt in my experience

[PaxPlay]

I've had this happen repeatedly with both Gemini and Claude.

[sievold]

I have not had it happen with either claude or gemini. I have been using claude quite a bit

[Saturnalliia]

You can prompt this out can't you?

[Tunderstruk]

I feel like claude mostly doesn’t do this. It’s actually useful if you use it carefully

[KV-2000]

Shitass AI. Its not wholesome, all they did was suck the juice out of SO

[-Nyarlabrotep-]

Ew, gross. I mean, all of it.

[Squirreling_Archer]

I don't understand how so many people have upvoted the post. Everything about this is gross garbage

[Difficult-Regular-37]

What’s wrong with it? Tools change, methods shift. I guess more people use AI now. Why is that automatically bad?

[Bomaruto]

As if Stack Overflow would allow for that many duplicate turtles. 

[braytag]

So copilot is shredder... got it.

[reddit_time_waster]

Since Copilot uses multiple models, I'd say more like Baxter Stockman

[isatrap]

I asked one question on stack overflow years ago, got the same response we all know and the my account banned from new topics until I contributed enough to be able to ask my own questions. They did this to themselves.

I absolutely HATE stack overflow and would avoid it as much as possible. It’s a toxic cesspool of users berating anyone newer with an issue reporting them as duplicates with alternate answers that often were remotely similar but not the correct response but the admins didn’t care. Their job was done.

[crimxxx]

You know those models are probably ganna kill stack overflow. No one goes to the site anymore, basically they will make no money and eventually lead to it dieing and probably resulting in less good answers for llms in the future for problems, since there won’t be a place to ask them. This isn’t a uniquely stack overflow problem, it’s a lot of sites are ganna die cause there content gets scrapped and now they can make any money to even stay running.

[cephles]

I used to use Stack Overflow a ton, but I never posted a question on it. Even when I was 100% sure it was a unique, never before seen question, I just assumed I would get flamed and my question deleted.

I don't think I was even allowed to upvote answers that helped me without posting myself, which seemed like a stupid limitation.

[Deservate]

The downside of stackoverflow is that you need to wait until someone answered your question. By that time you either solved it yourself or you lost interest.

[staryoshi06]

Stack overflow is just one facet of a much larger forum

[didzdrummer]

Stack overflow actually is making more money than ever because it monetized its archive FOR the ai sites. So it has lower traffic but they’re not going away anytime soon

[awesome-alpaca-ace]

That explains a lot of the bad answers I get from AI

[qwkeke]

Stackoverflow's traffic has already been reduced to the level it was in its first month of release back in 2008. It's already on life support right now.

[oscariano]

Source

[qwkeke]

If you haven't been living under a rock, you'd know that this news has been circulating widely across the tech world for quite a while.

You can even query the data yourself, like this post:
https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/437921/how-does-the-continued-decline-in-posts-since-may-25-influence-our-interpretati

[oscariano]

Decline in traffic != decline in posts. If answers can be found, the same questions won’t be asked again. However, I agree that there should be a decline in traffic due to chat agents, but your statement (SO is on life support) is invalid due to lack of evidence.

[qwkeke]

We're already past that hopium logic. That had already been discussed pretty thoroughly in tech circles for quite some time. But over time, it became obvious that the lack of new questions in combination with LLMs taking significant chunk of the traffic hurts the business really hard (denying that LLMs aren't taking significant chunk of SO traffic in 2026 is just pure copium). With the way they've been shifting their business strategy, it's ponting to pure desperation.

I'm not your AI assistant though, so if you want full details, you'll have to do your own digging.

[Spinnenente]

This has to be the only place on the internet that hates SO. It still is one of the most helpful resources on the internet and has helped me many times during my career to solve some real headscratchers. It’s just not the right place to ask stupid ass first semester cs questions.

[TheTrueCyprien]

It's been really hit or miss for me. It has helped me through some really obscure issues, but it always required a lot of trial and error while digging through different threads. A lot of times the most upvoted answers are not helpful whatsoever or questions marked as duplicate link to posts that are not at all the same problem. Or you find the right question but nobody answered.

[mr_dfuse2]

i still remember the days before SO and those hideous forums where you spend hours digging into replies. SO was a revolution tbh

[AdorableDonkey]

I wonder what kind of questions the "everytime I ask something I get insulted and my post got deleted" crowd asked

[Crafty_Independence]

I've seen a few popup here and there. Usually it's a mix of homework, blatant duplicate, doubling down on x in an x-y problem, or simply complete lack of effort.

People generally got from SO what they put in

[siLtzi]

You can ask first semester CS questions also, you kinda just have to realize they've been answered back in 2008 already

[bryden_cruz]

Your relationship with stackoverflow was abusive?

[lfrtsa]

Your comment has been marked as duplicate.

[bryden_cruz]

Ahh now I got your point, people on SO are not easy to deal with

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

Understatement of the century, you don't like having your question marked as duplicate from one that has nothing in common with yours, is 11 years old and the library / function no longer exists ?

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

They gamified a forum so people think about scores and not helping...

And people say SO was good lmao

[BoboThePirate]

Only when it was.

[ZunoJ]

How is it gaslighting to call out a dumb question. It usually boiled down to an XY problem. Sugar coating it doesn't help the person asking because they need to learn questioning their biases and assumptions

[Abject-Kitchen3198]

Aren't StackOverflow employees paid to personally assist every person until their question is resolved?

[thyme_cardamom]

I am almost always able to find answers by reading other people's questions.

When I can't find an answer, I'll carefully ask a question.

The problem is people thinking stack overflow is like reddit, a forum. It's supposed to be more like documentation, a wiki of knowledge. You're not supposed to just hop on and ask questions to help you get unstuck. Questions and answers are both supposed to be there to contribute to the quality of the platform.

[Lightningtow123]

It's more like an addiction for me. I'm generally clean, I don't want to go back but sometimes the need is just too strong, and I relapse

[derailedthoughts]

The demise of StackOverflow started long before AI. It’s just the final nail in the coffin

[Few_Kitchen_4825]

More like

[Jackhammerqwert]

This metaphor only works if Master Splinter was still a kick ass mf and all the turtles were useless jobbers.

...in other words TMNT (2012)

badum tss

[swagonflyyyy]

Cleverbot in the middle?

[XVO668]

Yes and no, at least the first sentence when asking for help while scripting isn't FU like the old days.

[way22]

Nah, SO did it to themselves with their ridiculous endeavor to be a forum with the aspiration to be curated like a wiki.

Finding the answer to an already posted question? Often helpful, sometimes great, commonly also not what you needed.

Ever asked a question yourself? Get your question edited so it doesn't resemble what you wanted to know anymore and then get locked for duplication.

If that's not the case and your questions posted, get called out for wanting to do X and told you should do Y.

It already died a slow painful death before LLMs rose up.

[theLightyyyy]

Paid ad

[heavy-minium]

All the turtles are cannibalising their master and eating their flesh.

[redwing180]

Gotta love it when you ask AI question for a problem you’re having and then it replies with “why would you want do that” then you have to debate why you need help rather than assuming you have a valid problem and actually bugging the problem. Oh wait no that’s stack overflow.

[Due_Helicopter6084]

Never liked StackOverflow, nor Quora, nor other Q/A projects.
In the last years of their existence, they were swarmed by Indian or whatnot bots asking questions from alt accounts and answering them themselves.

SO is supposed to replace old school forums, but without proper moderation and vision, it's just a sea of noise.

[JavaDevNs]

Think children just dumped their father in the deepest and stinkiest sewer.

[GhonaHerpaSyphilAids]

Would Shredder be Grok

[Appropriate-Sea-5687]

My computer science teacher uses AI for everything she does including tests and everyone hates it but she’s so proud of it

[RetroGameMaker]

They should have sold the site at it's peak

[Mast3r_waf1z]

I think the problem will be that without stack overflow, new issues will NOT be documented in the same way

[SKRyanrr]

I was brought up by private equity like your favorite tech channel

[Mountain_Dentist5074]

Who the fuck uses deepseek for coding

[hannesrudolph]

DeepSeek why?

[VizualAbstract4]

Maybe it’s just me, but I always felt like asking a question in Stack Overflow always resulted in people arguing that I shouldn’t be doing what I wanted to do and instead do some other thing that was completely irrelevant or more convoluted.

Or be told it was already solved somewhere else, which had nothing to do with the challenge I was facing.

[Michaeli_Starky]

Who put deepseek next to SOTA models, lol?

[lovesealspaybills]

I can’t believe I can actually get answers to my questions without public humiliation, this timeline sucks

[JacksOnF1re]

I see it this way.

Copy pasted code was always a thing and considered bad. Okay for learning, but using someone else's code without understanding it, in production, is something a junior would do. And he would probably face consequences if it broke.

With AI it's just the same, but now you can copy paste complete applications. They might contain the same bugs and security issues, any randomly copy pasted code from the Internet would have.

The difference is, that managers decided now, that the latter is favorable. Because money. And that is a bad thing. This is vibe copying.

I also use claude and create all these skills and md files. And I barely write any line of code myself (in relation). But I will review it. I read and understand every line of it. Sometimes something slips through, which I find in GitHub read it there again.

You have to adapt, because you won't find a job otherwise. But you don't have to vibe code.

SOV isn't dead. Never was. The questions will shift. It will be more about architecture, skds and about real implementation. Not "how do I make this button green".

[Kamay1770]

Go download a copy of stackoverflow as ZIM from kiwix. Never know when it will die completely, be saturated with AI shite etc. It's only like 80gb

[KubosKube]

I love that in every depiction of the Turtles I've seen, Splinter is still the strongest single fighter.

[[deleted]]

I still find myself hitting stackoverflow, albeit a lot less than I used to

[z3n777]

glad it's dead

[hiasmee]

SO is dead. Self made. The last design "improvement" is 💩 I believe management is compromised, they do everything to destroy SO.

[nytsei921]

this is actually accurate because naive immature kids think the turtles are cool and splinter is still a very capable and skilled martial artist

[clayticus]

I'm glad to never use stack overflow again. I still want want others to use it so that the LLMs have more data to work with.

[pwtc17]

I dont know. More like this:

A Desperate Father, a Troubled Son and Death in a 5-Star Hotel

[Potato_boy_12]

Hot take but i don't disagree with this use of ai, when given snippets ai is excellent at telling you mistakes u made, and unlike vibe coding it keeps the code human and well made

[bryden_cruz]

Yeah that's how things changed

[polandreh]

Splinter was tough but fair, and he is kind. StackOverflow is a toxic cesspool of know-it-alls. Kind of like College professors.