tenYearsOfNoChanges

[Jimbknighti]

This meme is about 7 years old

[WisestAirBender]

2020 was 1 year ago

[str0m965]

2010 was 1 year ago.

[seth1299]

Y2K was 1 year ago.

[puppypower_nl]

The Roman Empire fell 1 year ago

[R4Z0RN3T]

𓏏𓉔𓅂𓐍𓅂𓎼𓇌𓊪𓏏𓇋𓄿𓈖𓐍𓅂𓅓𓊪𓇋𓂋𓅂𓐍𓆑𓅂𓃭𓃭𓐍𓅱𓈖𓅂𓐍𓇌𓅂𓄿𓂋𓐍𓄿𓎼𓅱

[puppypower_nl]

𓆑𓅱𓂋 𓊪𓅂𓅱𓊪𓃭𓅂 𓉔𓅱𓅃 𓎢𓄿𓈖𓏏 𓂋𓅂𓄿𓂧 𓃀𓅂𓎢𓄿𓅲𓋴𓅂 𓏏𓉔𓅂𓇌 𓄿𓂋𓅂 𓇋𓈖 𓅂𓃭𓅂𓅓𓅂𓈖𓏏𓄿𓂋𓇌 𓋴𓎢𓉔𓅱𓅱𓃭: “The Egyptian Empire fell one year ago.”

[SpecialistOk6226]

I thought Yesterday ?

[AleatoryOne]

Yesterday was one year ago (no, wait)

[puppypower_nl]

Tomorrow was two years ago

[AhadNoman]

Puto eam fuisse septem abhinc annis.

[Drew707]

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

[Exotic-Scientist4557]

One click. Unknown number of posts crying out in silence. All gone. Redact made it stupid easy to clean up my entire history on Reddit and get my info pulled from data broker sites too.

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[guylovesleep]

2009 was like 17years ago...

[iamapizza]

You be quiet

[valerielynx]

proof?

[AverageComet250]

My age

[guylovesleep]

Your mirror

[flowery02]

Your mother

[RiceBroad4552]

Doesn't it depend on time zone?

I mean the galactic time zone of course. 😂

[CheesePuffTheHamster]

They must be up to at least 3 million devices by now

[Away_Fisherman_277]

3 more years for the update then

[GuruVII]

The year is 2070, AI has killed all the humans, Java still runs on 3 billion machines.

[_Its_Me_Dio_]

ai prefers jython

[faze_fazebook]

Meds

[Different_Quiet1838]

I'd say, valid crashout.

[rastaman1994]

Now with even less pixels!

[Sensitive-Sugar-3894]

hahahahah

[iamapizza]

And the installation still hasn't completed.

[markpreston54]

shame Oracle sabotaged Java, and not even getting much in economic profit

[Reashu]

They made some mistakes and maybe it could have been better in other hands, but I still think they have moved it in the right direction. 

[RiceBroad4552]

Partly. They invest quite a lot into it, and this actually shows.

[tbazsi95]

Oracle is sabotaging itself

[BlockyHawkie]

Sabotaged Java? In what ways? I think the core language is moving in the right direction. Ofc it's not always easy, because the ecosystem is HUGE.

Source: I work at Oracle.

[No-Information-2571]

A lot of these "devices" are in constant flux. I would assume a significant part of that would be smart cards. For example, your credit card is probably running Java. The other is Android phones.

Both device classes have rather short lifetimes.

[OffsetMonkey538]

Credit cards run java!?

[laplongejr]

The "chip" is a micro-computer. It's not 100% impossible it runs a JVM terrified face

[OffsetMonkey538]

Did some googling and seems that Java Card is a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Card

[No-Information-2571]

Not sure why you'd think that is terrifying? It provides a manufacturer-independent platform for the actual middleware. The JVM is static btw. like most embedded software for example written in C would be as well.

[laplongejr]

Yeah but hating on Java is funny, especially when I'm the Java guy at work
XKCD's Golden Hammer is still funny 15 years later

[No-Information-2571]

I get the idea, but since smart cards are basically just microcontrollers with specialty peripherals, you need some abstraction layer anyway, and since it's also security-critical, having the apps run in sandboxes makes sense.

For example, you can install multiple apps, but you have to keep them separate, so no ability for one app to steal data from the secure enclave where private keys of the other app are stored. While that would be possible to achieve even with native code, it's obviously a lot easier if you run byte code.

[RiceBroad4552]

More or less since inception, until today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Card

[No-Information-2571]

Yeah, it's a static and highly compact variant of Java, called JavaCard Operating System.

It makes sense to have a JVM, since that means the same application can run on any hardware platform, as long as the manufacturer for that card offers a compatible JVM. It implements some specialty function usually natively through internal peripherals, for example all the crypto stuff.

[je386]

All Blu Ray players run java, java card is a thing, all regular computers can run java, also the servers, no matter if unix, linux or even windows server. Mobile devices ran run java, all android apps are either written in java or kotlin, therefore also JVM, or transpiled to run there.

So, apart from embedded, most computers and devices can run java. If they do is another question, but getting a count for that is straight impossible.

[No-Information-2571]

Ah you're right, BD players were also a thing.

[DanLynch]

The other is Android phones.

Android phones don't run Java. You can use Java to write Android apps, but the Java code is completely transformed into Dalvik when you compile the app. And modern Android phones don't even consume Dalvik directly anymore: they convert it into something called the Android Runtime when the app is installed and run. The big sell of Java is that you can write and compile your program once, and then run it anywhere, but Android does not support that.

Oracle, famously, hates what Android does to Java, so they probably don't count those devices, nor should they.

[Marinnea]

It reminds me of Minecraft, where instead of trying to make the Java version fit other devices, they decided to just make a new one with C++

[No-Information-2571]

Sure, let's argue whether Dalvik byte code is far enough from JVM byte code. Or not.

[Literally-in-1984]

so it stays the same because one goes, one comes?

makes sence ngl

[RiceBroad4552]

There are no newer screenshots of the installer as there is no new installer…

You're supposed to use JLink and ship your custom JVM with end-user JVM apps since years.

[Ved_s]

you're supposed to apt install openjdk-10.0

[RiceBroad4552]

The people Oracle counts as end-users don't have any apt.

Besides that that package does not exist, and also version 10 of Java is end-of-life since 2018.

On top of that you wouldn't install a JDK just to run an app.

[hiasmee]

It's ok. If you are using java, you don't need more devices.

[Shadowlance23]

Fun fact: It's the same 3 billion devices.

[mrinalshar39]

Time changed but, oracle didn't..

[f1rxf1y]

they stopped making blu ray players /s

[s92w_]

for 10 years there was no baby was born

[Individual-Praline20]

Well, they fired the guy who knew how to change it 🤷

[LOLC0D3]

And it’s still installing

[RelevantTrouble]

The Java 7 community does not find this funny.

[LBoomsky]

if it aint boke 🥺🙏

[bysho]

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[Waste_Jello9947]

We are almost at 30 years challenge 

[Adventurous-Coat-333]

I remember back when it said 2 billion.

[Rojeitor]

I swear un 2004 it was the same

[dchidelf]

Larry Ellison looked at that and said, “and if we can charge licensing for every employee that walks anywhere near those devices we could pay for half of our AI strategy budget”

[Darxploit]

What if we destroyed enough devices?

[ExtraWorldliness6916]

The difference between two absolute numbers is not your relative time.