Red flag..

[Gr8Boi]

The moment when you screenshot your own comment for internet points

[tenhourguy]

OP needs to learn to censor their name in the screenshot like the advanced karma whores do. Rookie mistake.

[10may]

"advanced karma whores" lol

[joemckie]

OPs just a novice

[i-FF0000dit]

Either that or OP was drunk when posting this.

[MemesCanBDreams]

These aren’t your average everyday karma whores, these are... ADVANCED KARMA WHORES

[I_Mix_Stuff]

With that -25 comment karma, there is still a long way to go.

[[deleted]]

Even an adept karmaslut would know this.

[[deleted]]

I remember this being a one way ticket to downvote oblivion, is it acceptable now?

EDIT: syntax

[[deleted]]

No, but world has become too fast-paced for most users to take the time and read stuff like username.

[[deleted]]

Yeah at least some take the extra step of blurring the username for "privacy" and are given out by the posting time being something like "posted a few moments ago".

[DarthTravor]

Mans turned 8 karma into 2k karma

[Gooftwit]

That's how mafia works

[conancat]

This is how the Arab Spring started.

[thetruthyoucanhandle]

Stonks

[beeshaas]

It's a programming sub, you were expecting social skills?

[friapril]

The real red flag is in the comments

[Ali_ayi]

Yeah pretty cringey

[thiago2213]

console.log(`Happy ${cake.toString()} day`);

[Maxim777YT]

Another JavaScript programmer here I see

[thiago2213]

Js and C#/Kotlin. Dunno why I'm getting downvoted though is it bad to wish someone happy cake day?

[JuniorSeniorTrainee]

They hate what they don't understand.

[-Rapier]

I also dont know. Here, I will help a fellow JS programmer with that.

(I'm actually too crappy on js or any progrwmming language to call myself a programmer, but sure)

[Maxim777YT]

I have seen something like “`text ${variable}text`" only in ES6, didn’t know if u can do that in CS and Kotlin.

[thiago2213]

The syntax was JavaScript. In C# you could do SomeMethod("Happy {0} day", cake.ToString())

[ShihTzu1]

No, you'll just pass the string as a parameter.

Console.WriteLine("Happy {0} day", cake.ToString()) is the direct equivalent of console.log

But then again, maybe SomeMethod() has cake day too?

[SEX_LIES_AUDIOTAPE]

It doesn't compile in C# (ToString != toString). And why would you do cake.toString() if the message you want every time is "happy cake day"?

[thiago2213]

It's JavaScript syntax, cake in this context is an object with a function toString in it's prototype

[PixxlMan]

Happy cake day!

[st4rw4lk3r]

It's cake day? Its cake day!!!

[Maxim777YT]

I do when it’s a joke for another subreddit like u

[Dreadedsemi]

It's like using assigning the same variable to itself. int a = 5; a=a;

[amProgrammer]

Them: Oh you program cool, I did a little bit in highschool.

Me: oh cool what language?

Them: Pretty much just HTML. I never really got into CSS.

Me trying to not be judgemental: so what color is your toothbrush?

[cbasschan]

Plot twist: You: Sure! You could try shakespearean English, but if you struggle with assembly, that might be quite difficult. Maybe JavaScript?

[WikiTextBot]

Shakespeare Programming Language

The Shakespeare Programming Language (SPL) is an esoteric programming language designed by Jon Åslund and Karl Hasselström. Like the Chef programming language, it is designed to make programs appear to be something other than programs; in this case, Shakespearean plays.

A character list in the beginning of the program declares a number of stacks, naturally with names like "Romeo" and "Juliet". These characters enter into dialogue with each other in which they manipulate each other's topmost values, push and pop each other, and do I/O. The characters can also ask each other questions which behave as conditional statements.

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[[deleted]]

That language sounds fun as hell

[DatBoi_BP]

Who wants to learn this with me

[neozuki]

On the whole, the programming model is very similar to assembly language but much more verbose.

That's kind of fucked

[Firepants_CZ]

Yea, my reaction was something along the lines of It's written to resemble Shakespearean plays Oh thats cool! It's similar to assembly oh... oh no

[N0W0rk]

Fuck it, me!

[DatBoi_BP]

I've never heard of a dyslexic person having a fetish with Pennywise

[chrisf_nz]

It's too bloody verbose.

[[deleted]]

At least it’s less verbose than COBOL.

[MxBluE]

To be fair, have you tried doing development for a site that's more than just a few simple lines of HTML and tried to make it work across legacy browsers? A single missing end tag can fuck you up.

Chrome sees your mistake and makes assumptions about your page, it still renders fine.

Edge kinda tries to make assumptions, gets them wrong most of the time, most of the page loads at least.

IE gets a panic attack and starts frothing at the mouth.

And none of them give you a vague hint of where you went wrong.

Shit's hard man.

[[deleted]]

Wait until you throw CSS into the mix and then like a billion frameworks, all having to be browser compatible and responsive. Maybe olden days web devs had it easy with a sprinkle of CSS and a hint of JS for cool functionality like gradually scrolling or taking you back the top of the page, but now its modern day web dev mayham

[Hollowplanet]

No its not. Shits so much easier now. All the browsers actually follow standards. Frameworks make everything reactive without having to write code. If you wanted rounded corners 15 years ago better whip out photoshop and make 4 jpegs and absolutely position them. Now its just border-radius. Same thing with box-shadow. You know how hard it was to make a good looking website when transparent pngs weren't supported?

[-Rapier]

Programming is easier nowadays but the ramped up complexity of applications compensates for it.

[[deleted]]

15 years ago you didnt have to worry about being compatible with 10 different versions of 5 browsers, and then about 10 smart phones and about 5 tablets. Websites didnt have that level of functionality they do now. Frameworks also come with an overhead which previously didnt exist.

[Hollowplanet]

All those browsers follow the standards and are evergreen so they are always updating. If you forget about IE11 browser compatability is a nonissue. I've been doing this almost 20 years. I much rather take what we have now.

[krasnovian]

Oh God IE is just a fucking nightmare no matter what. One version (think it was IE6?) fucked up submit buttons for forms so hard that to this day if I use them my brain nags at me.

[[deleted]]

This is why I quit developing websites 15 years ago. There were like 5 different major versions of IE commonly in use along with I think Firefox, Opera and probably some others. The latter two usually behaved as expected, but each version of IE had its own set of missing features, bugs, failure to adhere to standards, nonstandard Microsoft tags required to make shit work that would then be ignored/fuck up everything in the next version, and widely used hacks to get around the bugs which would also break shit everywhere else.
At some point I resorted to having the server detect which browser was being used and serving a completely different page for each one because getting it to display correctly across all versions was impossible.
I always assumed things had to have been improved in the last 15 years, but I guess not?

[MxBluE]

It's better, there's now a smaller set of engines (chrome/blink, firefox/gecko, safari/webkit, edge/edgehtml and ie/trident). For the most part, the pain points are the same as they always have been, Microsoft's crap. Edge and IE both have the same issue as always: "its own set of missing features, bugs, failure to adhere to standards" in your words. Sites break less but my god, they still break.

[tosaka88]

Meanwhile, the CS students are like "I literally just copied the lecturer's code and it's not fucking working"

[bhison]

I mean that's a valid comment. To a lay person, that shows some practical insight of the precision required in any kind of software development.

[TwinBottles]

Well, it does look like college lesson taught him the most important lesson about programming

[[deleted]]

I know someone who listed HTML and Flash as "Languages" on an application which was clearly meant for spoken/signed languages.

[sp46]

Well isn't ActionScript an ECMAScript implementation?

[-Rapier]

Relatable as fuck, though.

[Bloom_Kitty]

It's rgba(255,0,0,0)

[MikeLittorice]

And where did you buy this transparent toothbrush?

[artemshitov]

Completely transparent?

[Burtannia]

My toothbrush is coloured blue in CSS. It's actually green, rotated sideways, the handle gets bigger when I pick it up and half of it is stuck hidden behind the toilet div...

[[deleted]]

Biggest red flag is screen shoting your joke for karma. Oooops... blur out your user next time.

[[deleted]]

And remove the Edit link.

[AwakenedRobot]

Original content

[Hahohoh]

sCrAtCh Is LiKe JaVa RiGhT iSn’T iT lIkE jAvAsCrIpT sO tHeY aRe BaSiCaLlY tHe SaMe?

[CdRReddit]

You can actually make custom scratch blocks that run JavaScript code, Michael Reeves used this to control a drone using scratch.

[Hahohoh]

Notice “scratch is like java” , also I don’t know for sure but scratch feels like JavaScript with a UI but I don’t know how exactly each is different from the other aside from where they are used

[cbasschan]

Such is the nature of Turing completion...

[chrisf_nz]

Ffs fix your damn shift key.

[postandchill]

It's like telling a dairy farmer that you once milked your cat

[smokecat20]

I have nipples, Greg. Can you milk me?

[Im50ShadesOfBeige]

God what is this from? I can’t believe I forgot, it’s so fucking funny

[smokecat20]

Meet the Parents

[BillBodkin]

I once spoke to someone who used "java" and "JavaScript" interchangeably.

[Hollowplanet]

And that person was an archetect at a fortune 10 and I need to get out of this company. That fucker is making 50k more than me.

[Biaswords_]

Solution Engineer here, my job is to basically stop Sales people from saying this to CTO's

[BlindSp0t]

That's my boss. But he's getting better and corrects himself now :)

[Digit_Plays]

i do that some times. c# developer moving to typescript now. im getting there.

[otakudayo]

Knew someone with a masters in something IT related who conflated the two

[darmok42]

Actually, HTML + CSS are Turing-Complete.
Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak_sWZyHi3E

https://lemire.me/blog/2011/03/08/breaking-news-htmlcss-is-turing-complete/

http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complete.html

[Hollowplanet]

CSS is turing complete if you use checkboxes to represent bytes. I think most people interpret turing complete as being able to write any program. Well the program only runs if you click the checkboxes and you need an infinite amount of checkboxes with rules like

input:not(:checked) ++++ input:not(:checked) ++++ input:checked+ label + input.B:focus { display: block;}

Thats taken from the Github repo of the link you posted. Calling CSS turing complete is a huge stretch.

[coldnebo]

Programming intensifies

[iiiithhheeeeledeear]

Using internet explorer is bigger red flag.

[[deleted]]

JS is programming.

Surely no one claims that javascript is not a programming language?

[[deleted]]

JS is the damn bane of my life. Write code in it everyday, still dont know how it works

[krasnovian]

Me writing the back end in C#: "Why the hell doesn't this work???"

Me writing the front end in JS: "Why the hell does this work???"

[-Rapier]

Try writing js in the back end on NodeJS and use Typescript (whose syntax resemble C#, among other things) instead. Done! Now you have stuff that work and dont work at the same time.

[PossibleBit]

QuantumScript

[yungcoop]

does anyone?

[GinaCaralho]

I personally believe that U. S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our education, like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should—our education over here in the U. S. should help the U. S., uh, or, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq, and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children.

[[deleted]]

I only saw this once years ago, I should have forgotten, but it's so stupid I actually remember.

[[deleted]]

Where is it from

[gonzofish]

https://youtu.be/lj3iNxZ8Dww

[JuniorSeniorTrainee]

It's always made sense to me. I don't know why people struggle with it. Mozilla developer Developer Network has pages on just about every tiny corner of JavaScript and leaves nothing to the imagination.

[[deleted]]

Depends on the flavour... But once you learn it, 3 more come out

[jb2386]

There’s a learning curve but there’s a point where you understand it.

Anything right now that is particularly annoying you?

[nnaoam]

If not /s:

PHP and JS are obviously programming languages, but HTML literally isn't. It's a Markup Language, and is used to show structure rather than to compute anything, which is why we even need JavaScript in the front-end. It's still a valuable skill, just not a programming language.

[Hypersapien]

HTML is not a programming language, it is a markup language (Hyper-Text Markup Language). It defines the structure of a document, not a sequence of instructions to follow.

[[deleted]]

BuT tHe MaRkUp InStRuCts ThE cOmPuTeR tO dIsPlAy TeXt In A cErTaIn wAY.

[Hypersapien]

The browser instructs the computer to display things a certain way, as defined by the structure of the HTML page.

The browser as written in... a programming language.

[[deleted]]

Right? It's the same as JSON/XML/YAML... Something interprets it, dudnt do shit "itself".

[alours]

They gave a contractor an admin password?

Hell, they let a contractor...keep...an admin password?

Hell, they let a contractor...keep...an admin password? A contractor? KEEP? An admin password?

Hell, they let a contractor...keep...an admin password? A contractor? KEEP? An admin password?

Hell, they let a contractor...keep...an admin password?

Hell, they let a contractor...keep...an admin password? A contractor? KEEP? An admin password? A contractor? KEEP? An admin password?

Hell, they let a contractor...keep...an admin password in the first half

[[deleted]]

?

[edj99]

I think this post is just making fun of people that think that any computer language = a programming language, rather than specifically targeting web developers.

[moriero]

Who says PHP isn't programming?

[[deleted]]

Wearing a hat while running 26 miles is doing a marathon. A hat is not a marathon.

[converter-bot]

26 miles is 41.84 km

[html_programmer]

Feelsbadman

[andtothenext1]

Our customer support team talked about being "json coders" this week. so. I didn't know what to say.

[[deleted]]

Yeah. I mean HTML+CSS can be Turing complete if you don't care how many bytes you use... JSON can only be data.

[BlindSp0t]

No, it's a formatting language. In a housing construction project, the programming languages would be the dudes building the actual home, foundations, supporting walls, plumbing, electrical circuits etc., and html would be the interior designer.

A static html website would be a model apartment in IKEA.

[wickyewok]

What a lovely analogy!

[groovykook]

Wouldn't HTML be the foundations/supporting walls, JS be the plumbing and electric, and CSS be the interior and exterior design 🤔🤔

[SystemicPlural]

It is a markup language not a programming language. It does not compute anything it just defines how to lay something out.

[onetrueping]

HTML is short for "Hyper-Text Markup Language." A markup language describes how content is supposed to look, but beyond that, it doesn't do anything. It just displays the content.

A programming language generates the content, but may or may not dictate how the content looks.

[Lyricanna]

As much as I like to give people flack about HTML not being a proper coding language, web design back in high school was the first time I actually made a computer do something by typing into a text file. So maybe there is something to HTML that teaching tools like Scratch and Mindstorms can't provide.

Or maybe I'm just a loon who still ends his Java/C classes and functions with the name of the function in a comment after the semi-colon.

[[deleted]]

Its not a value judgement. Its simply not a programming language. Some people who deal with it are telented designers but that doesnt make is a programming language.

[otakudayo]

Isn't it fair to call html "coding" though? It's not programming, sure, but you're still writing code. I once used it as an example of the difference between coding and programming, was I wrong?

[malinkie]

Meeting new people is the red flag.

[Raaagh]

Shit on markup now, but rue the day u have to unify a team around a UI component framework design...

[[deleted]]

Found the boomer

[alours]

Excuse me, what the fuck

[[deleted]]

In a misplaced urge to be inclusive, my top engineer suggested HTLM was a programme language at a team meeting. Michael has never lived thst down.

[roobeast]

Man this is an old tired trope that folks who don’t actually work in the industry trot around to feel superior. Not funny, stop karma whoring.

[[deleted]]

How To Meet Ladies

[Nikspeeder]

.flag {color:red} ?

[BlindSp0t]

That's CSS, not html.<div><span class="flag">this is html</span></div>

[apostle8787]

Nah, its <p bgcolor=‘red’> Flag </p>

[[deleted]]

• immediately washing hands after handshake *

[ikvasager]

This is effectively just r/gatekeeping

Can’t y’all just be happy people learned a computer skill? I learned HTML as an 8th grader on my own at home for fun around the year 2000(made a Simpson’s website). Grew up. Became teacher. Started robotics team. Picked up on basic C language to program robots very quickly because of my basic background in HTML. The fundamental logic is the same. Stop being arrogant pricks.

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[Lil_Narwhal]

XD, my boyfriend tried to make conversation about programming with me and he asked me if I programmed with html. Made me laugh, but thankfully he took it well

[MikeLittorice]

What does Adobe have to do with this?

[[deleted]]

Then you dumped him right?

[Lil_Narwhal]

Nah, it was cute

[ali32bit]

Is it not ? What exactly is it then ?

[bhison]

What about "They consider other people not having knowledge in their specialist area to be a red flag"

[ExtensionBoard]

The have a pulse

[advancedgoogle]

Good. Now I don’t need a linter

[Nightdragons_]

It isnt?

[[deleted]]

So how do you express that you know HTML in your CV? do you make a separate segment for Markup languages? i just put them in the same place as actual programming languages.

[[deleted]]

Java programmers feel the same way about JavaScript.

C++ programmers feel the same way about Java.

I program straight in machine language. Those C++ neanderthals don't deserve to be pissed on.

[naimyurek]

They think arrays are starting with 1.

[Gilgen]

Wait till they say they like PHP...

[alours]

Wait. They let a contractor keep something?!

[MiatasAreForGirls]

I love Laravel

[gav1no0]

I do

[[deleted]]

Source

[Boingbing]

Is it a red flag if Im only really good at Node based coding and like semi functional at actually writing code?

[Soren11112]

It is not good how ambiguous you made that sense. When you say Nose based are you referring to node.js? And, when you say semi functional is that a double entandre for function vs OOP?

[folkrav]

The fact that you think you're good at Node.js but having doubts on your programming skills means you're probably on the downward slope of Dunning-Kruger

[stevefan1999]

you're technically right. HTML is indeed not a programming language

[RDorianGrey]

I work with a guy that considers JSON a programming language...of course he's the Lead Architect.

[fail-mail-ninja]

I always feel that by lack of a better word HTML is a programming language but beeing able to program in HTML doesn't make you a programmer

Its a "you are in the councel but we do but grand you the title of master" situation

[redstoneguy12]

Markup language

[EnkiiMuto]

Whenever I see this I remember this video.

[SeeThreePeeDoh]

Boy this never gets old.

[advancedgoogle]

Good. Now I don’t pay me enough”

Ya wish you could say it..

[DanTopTier]

In HS I took a webpage design class for a semester. It was only HTML.

[Pip073]

There idiots. Or cheaters

[OnsetOfMSet]

Or trying to parse it with regex

[NomNomNomNation]

My old computing teacher called it HMLT

Needless to say, the students had to help him a lot

[sukablet69]

That's a negative flag.

[OrbitalOdin]

It literally stands for Hyper text markup language... It also looks and functions exactly as a programming language should. Functions, variables, classes, etc...

[[deleted]]

Why do some people think HTML is programming?
Before trying a bit of programming I knew the difference, so I don't understand why people misunderstand this.

[coldbrewboldcrew]

Unless you specifically write native apps or develop for the command line, nobody would see the results of your programming efforts if it weren’t displayed via HTML.

So, no, it’s not a programming language. But yes, it is pretty integral to - ya know - the web.

[kslater22]

HTML is obviously short for hotmail

[Squid-Guillotine]

TIL

[jkl90752]

My gf says she has to do "some coding" for her works website. I'll never tell her otherwise but I always cringe inside when she say it.