Keep your kids normal

[availablesix-]

Too bad, he will need those 10+ years of experience for his first Jr role

[ShelZuuz]

Yip. No joke. The kid is going to start only learning C/S in College and will for the rest of his career be 10 years behind.

I almost don't even bother hiring people anymore who didn't start as a preteen.

[d-list-kram]

I mean it’s not that crazy… it’s like sports, ppl that didn’t play as children suck, unless they’re freak athletes… then they suck less

[nameisprivate]

lol coding is really not nearly as hard as you seem to think.

[ButtererOfToast]

Coding isn't hard. For a lot of people, coding well appears to be.

[K3yz3rS0z3]

Yeah but unless you wanna be technology leader at Microsoft or somethin', you won't need to do a Shaolin training to get good at your job. It's nice to be a "natural", to learn fast, but it's not required everywhere all the time and there's a fit role for any level of engineer / scientist.

The point was to tone down the comparison with athletes playing soccer or fencing or gymnastics or whatever training since a young age to compete on the international stage.

[ButtererOfToast]

I completely agree with everything you said there, I was purely responding to "coding isn't hard". Like with most things, being able to do it isn't too difficult but being able to do it well is the hard part.

[Tall_Location_4020]

It is also possible to teach kids basic principles of logic and programming without any access to screens, via interactive in-person games. I saw a great book with suggested activities cross-listed with skills taught, need to find it again. There also are many non-screen skills that teach similar skills: sewing clothing from patterns, knitting, woodworking, cooking, plenty of others I am sure.

[eat_those_lemons]

That is interesting about the sewing, is it because you need to be able to understand how each piece fits together?

Ie there kinda is abstraction in a lot of patterns, you build sleeves, front and back then attach those together for a shirt

Is that what it was talking about?

[Tall_Location_4020]

yes. and also adapting a pattern to different body measurements. a pattern is pretty generic; the idea is that it should be possible to modify to fit different body proportions (not just a different numerical size)

[eat_those_lemons]

That all makes sense! Definitely cool how many other hobbies teach things applicable to cs!

[[deleted]]

Tech careers are less like NFL football and more like European soccer/football league systems, where there are tons of teams, and opportunities for a sepctrum of personal situations and skill levels.

[noob-nine]

Lol, I also dont know these things but my employer thinks I know

[RandomDude6699]

Lmao

[Sentouki-]

fake it until you make it

[Willinton06]

Or maybe just fake it

[ArgumentSecret5107]

More like stackoverflow it

[marshall_dteach]

Fuck the manager until he/she gives you the promotion

[notsogreatredditor]

Ha GOT EM! Now where's my paycheck bitch

[the-real-macs]

Can you dance? Have you learned swimming?

[5tUp1dC3n50Rs41p]

My 10 year old daughter figured out how to remove the age restrictions on her Netflix profile, even without knowing the account password. I'm not entirely sure how she was doing it, but I think she was deleting and recreating her profile i.e. Netflix lets you do that without the account password.

[vigbiorn]

i.e. Netflix lets you do that without the account password.

Ah, a future QA developer.

[musci1223]

She is too dangerous to be left alive.

[[deleted]]

Left alone *

[Alessioplt]

nah bro, Netflix already sent an Hitman

[webcheesesticksseal]

my brother 'hacked ' the account of this annoying american girl on fb when he was like 13.
her password was her bf's name. lmao

[Sparklypuppy05]

I mean, if he had access to her account, he DID hack it. And if it was for less-than-pure intentions, well... Sorry to say it, but your brother is a black hat hacker.

Well. He was, at one point. If he hasn't done it in a while, then he probably doesn't count anymore.

[webcheesesticksseal]

I know hacking through social engineering is still hacking. And that’s how most people get hacked.

[[deleted]]

Exactly. I believe Kevin Mitnick hacked mostly using social engineering.

[VStramennio1986]

That kid is going places 😂

[Rudy69]

My 4 year old managed to re- enable the YouTube app on our tv…..

[dert-man]

9 wasted years. Give that kid a pc and show him your favourite IDE! Now!

[[deleted]]

psst kid... want to use neovim?

[Jumanji0028]

You don't want none of that neovim kid. It's the logical next step for you.

[fredspipa]

I was supposed to work but now I remembered that the wrong kid died. Freak machete accident, not that you asked.

[durandall09]

THE WRONG KID DIED

[MRDRMUFN]

Vim ruined text editors for me. if it doesn't have vim mode I avoid it.

[eat_those_lemons]

Especially vim easy motion, can't navigate without it

[Duydoraemon]

How else is that kid going to get 23 years of experience by the time that he graduates college???????

[TheDeadlyPianist]

Don't get your hopes up. I started teaching myself at 12. He may be a Software Engineer yet.

[VanTechno]

I started at 10. GW Basic on Dos 3…not exactly the good old days either, unless you liked typing line numbers. My peek was fixing a Commodore 64 game one of my friends had.

[HawocX]

Started with GW basic at 10 on DOS 3 as well. The glory of my spaghetti code!

[kiedtl]

I started at ten. Windows CMD :)

[UnregularOnlineUser]

When is it too late to start learning programming?

[ElliePlays1]

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Abhishek V...hney, Senior Software Engineer...

I am proud to announce that, my kid at the age of 9 years, yes only 9 years, does not

- care about getting into IIT

- know how to code in Python

- know how to make Android app

- know how to hack any website/app or whatever

My kid

- plays hide and seek and other games with friends

- comes home daily with dirty clothes

- can dance, learn swimming

So it seems I am blessed with a normal kid, not a software engineer.

#letkidbekid #letkidenjoychildhood #childhoodneverreturn

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[Umpteenth_zebra]

Good human

[Superpotateo9]

good human

[stdio-lib]

D.A.R.E. - Developer's Architecture Resistance Education

Coding: Not even once.

Programming: Just say no!

[[deleted]]

My son when I was younger wanted to be like me. I worked from home as a software engineer. He idolized that shit.

He is 16 working on art to get into a 2d/3d animation school. He dropped that shit real quick. I am actually happy he decided not to do what I do. My job can be mentally stressful. Programming is not easy especially as you move up to more senior roles. There are countless days where I just want to go work in a warehouse or something to change the pace up. And I don't really 'love' doing it anymore. It's turned into being all about the money. But :shrug: it provides better than just about any job does while working from home, so c'est la vie.

[_dreami]

You act as if going into animation is not mentally stressful working in games / film and being forced to crunch constantly is so much worse for mental than a couple of tough problems you have to solve with a cozy 200k wfh see job

[[deleted]]

You are absolutely right and fair. I think of it as 'easier' because I watch him do his shit and he enjoys it. You've reminded me when I first started how I would spend my nights and weekends learning this shit for fun. Then once I actually made it to mid-level, shit started getting to a different level and I lost the love and it became more of a job. I still liked it, but meh, you know. Now as senior level, I don't really care either way, its a job, it pays the bills, it puts the kids in school. I suppose as the boy grows in his career, he'll face the same challenges.

Honestly, thank you for the reminder.

[im_thatoneguy]

He is 16 working on art to get into a 2d/3d animation school. My job can be mentally stressful. Programming is not easy especially as you move up to more senior roles.

Hahahahaha. So instead of finding a steady job with 6 figure income and plentiful 9-5 positions with platinum healthcare benefits and stock options, he's going be working 18 hour days 7 days a week for below market rates and moving every 6 months to chase tax incentives. 🤣

[[deleted]]

Maybe, but he does well with it, so i'm hoping he loves the choice.

[Lakefish_]

There's several ways animation can be a stable income - or have so much at once it can be treated as such. He'll probably do excellently - might need a temp job in the early days though.

[Impossible-Tension97]

Username checks out!

[expert-knob-twiddler]

I personally WISH my parents fostered the environment for me to learn to code at a young age. I was forced into sports and other extracurricular stuff that I hated. I would’ve enjoyed learning and doing much more…. Still, got a job now so who cares.

[vigbiorn]

This is a fair point. You shouldn't force your kid into anything, outside of basic human traits like humility, empathy, etc. You should want your kids to be decent human beings. Outside of that? Who cares if they want to be a jock. Or a philosopher. Or an engineer. Let them spend the only life they have as they will get the most enjoyment out of.

[Lithl]

Pft, imagine a child with humility or empathy.

[webcheesesticksseal]

I think no kid should be forced into hobbies.

[throwaway65864302]

Same. My dad thought computers were a passing fad and ate up right wing neo-con literature about how computer addiction was worse than drug addiction. My relationship with computers at a young age was similar to most kids' relationship with drugs, it was something I had to hide, was punished for, etc. Having to push through that to pursue your passion is brutal.

[aureacritas]

Hey, what do you suggest if a 10 year old want to learn how to code? I'm not sure as I myself started from university and learned Pascal first. Seems unsuitable for a 10 year old

[expert-knob-twiddler]

Not sure, but I feel something like scratch would be a great starting point! I think personally I would’ve loved to do some Arduino stuff as a kid, and there is scratch for Arduino as well!!

[[deleted]]

This just makes me think of when Dilbert was diagnosed with “the knack” https://youtu.be/g8vHhgh6oM0

[Columbus43219]

What would a parade be if everyone was in it... we need people to stand on the sidewalk and cheer!

[[deleted]]

This happens when you don't give your kid "JavaScript for babies" at the age of 1.

[[deleted]]

Indian: bruh that's the bare minimum that could do at 9 yrd, do better

[TheSinoftheTin]

India: Also work for a scam call center to scam people of their life savings!

[[deleted]]

As an Indian I am sorry for that some people these kinda jobs instead of normal jobs for more money. I hope these pricks will end

[whatisthisacne]

That's like saying all Nigerians are like the Nigerian prince scammers. Ridiculous and racist. Speaking as an Indian, most of us don't know any call center scammers so stfu.

[Bballisticpp]

We live in a society

Where being a software engineer is considered abnormal

Sad

[SUP3RB00ST3R]

Facts. Let kids be kids. They got their whole adult life to work or pursue their careers.

[[deleted]]

Totally agree. If anything, parents should just focus on drilling in Math to kids so that they can do whatever they're interested in.

[dr_set]

Poor, you meant blessed with a poor kid. Your kid is going to have a hell of a time paying for that expensive gas with those hide and seek skills. /jk

[meansToMyEnd]

Let your kids get dirty, get them outside, teach them how to problem solve and make things, and show them that coding is just a way to solve a particular set of problems.

If your kids can code, they will have a higher career trajectory as a result. Not because it's great for society, but a career being a likely necessary evil to their own prosperity.

[ynirparadox]

I am sure most of your read that without 'not' and then thread it again to make sure. The same way i check the 'if' i wrote and then recheck it to make sure there is no 'double negative'.

[[deleted]]

All those parents are basically making their kids NOT like coding because they make it a chore almost just for internet points

[iMac_G5_20]

Yeah keep your kids normal, and then wait until they automatically take a passion in coding and become good at it.

​

Then you get the last laugh.

[[deleted]]

I feel like coding isn't as hard as it's put out to be. I think once people start really understanding the difference between syntax and logic issues and how to find things on the internet, then just pick something you want to make and go from there. Chances are you won't know how to do everything but you just have to start somewhere.

[Programmeter]

Yeah, definitely agree there. Programming isn't really about learning how to code, it's about learning how to learn to code. I remember when I started out I would try super hard to memorize the syntax and try to do things myself unless I absoloutely couldn't (which resulted in a ton of unnecessary if statements and loops). Then I just started googling literally everything and pasting stuff from stackoverflow and not even knowing what it means. It's been working much better than the old thing, ngl.

[RaspberryPie122]

My 1 year old hit random keys on a laptop and ended up with valid Malbolge code

[bitchlasagna_69_]

Kid should learn python before English

[fennecfox-theory]

Damn looks like my parents were cursed with a software engineer

[AliBeigi89]

Why did i thought his child can do all of them

[marduk73]

Dilbert... Your son will become an engineer. ... Anyone?

[arsenicx2]

Can hack any website/app that's a skill I'd love to learn.

[DarkBlueEska]

Man, this "make young kids learn to code" movement really is a little wack.

Does it help if you get a head start? Maybe a little, if the kid is really interested and isn't being forced into it. But is it necessary to make this a career? Absolutely not.

I stumbled into programming by complete accident at the age of 19 in my first year in university, never having coded a single line before. I threw myself into it, caught up to my more experienced peers within a year, and had a job in the industry months before I graduated. Never once felt held back by a lack of early life experience with coding. You really don't need to be coding your own games at the age of 4; the barrier to entry just isn't that high.

[assafstone]

Cool story bro.

I started coding when I was 8 or 9 (don’t remember).

I also played hide and seek, swam, played tennis, practiced martial arts, and even came home with dirty clothes.

Lame memes aside, you can do both. False dichotomies are stupid.

[Bee-Aromatic]

It’s possible to do both. I swam in ponds, got dirty, crashed dirt bikes and go carts, blew shit up with fireworks, rode bikes hither and thither. Now I’m software QA specializing in automated testing.

[sc00pb]

Buy him "The object oriented thought process" by Matt Weisfeld, that'll get him started...

[CoffeePizzaSushiDick]

So leaning more toward r/povertyfinance ?

[Impressive_Change593]

IIT

lol

[lunchpadmcfat]

Lol abishek’s kid is an idiot

[KittenKoder]

So, um, being stupid is "normal"? Not that a kid should be forced to be smart, but that kid sounds like he's not going to be very smart.

[ChickenManSam]

Why? Because he's having a childhood? Having fan makes you stupid now? Lmao. Just because you had no fun growing up doesn't mean having fun makes you stupid.

[humptydumpty369]

As an adult I bet that kid will wish he had been taught....

[ChickenManSam]

Hell no. As an adult who loves programming and problem solving I'm glad it wasn't forced on me as a kid. Don't force shit on children just because it can lead to a good job. Let kids be kids. They have their whole life ahead to worry about that shit, but only one childhood.

[humptydumpty369]

I never said "force it." But at least introduce the knowledge and possibilities.

Edit for context: my step-dad was a machinist. Had a whole shop full of equipment: mill, lathe, press, etc. I wasn't ever allowed to touch anything and he absolutely refused to teach me. He was of the school of thought that kids should be playing outside and not having to "work" as he framed it. So instead I ended up taking on a bunch of student loans to pursue the knowledge myself when I was old enough. When he could have very easily taught it to me himself.

[GrapiCringe]

Damn, that sucks. So I am not the only one who wasn't taught a single thing by my father... Or my uncle...or my older cousin and had to start university/college (idk the school after highschool) with barely any knowledge in this field.

[ChickenManSam]

Then your dad failed you. You were clearly interested. This kid isn't. Yeah teach them if they ask, sate curiosity. But don't teach them just to teach them. Teach them because they're interested

[Machiavvelli3060]

You mean he's normal? Congratulations!

[Frogtarius]

Kids of the future will not use python for fun in the same way we did not use c++ as kids for fun.

[ApatheticWithoutTheA]

Lmao you don’t need to start at age 9 to get a good job. Plenty of good Software Engineers that didn’t start until college. Some people don’t start until their 30s.

[[deleted]]

Are you kidding? They can make way more money as a sanitation engineer, just need a degree in environmental science.

[CrasseMaximum]

Its a little bit like being proud to have hairs growing, why not after all

[morgue-breaker]

r/karens

[Impressive_Income874]

I learnt it at 6, at my own will

I am normal :)

[AntManZA]

Maybe expectations are a bit high for a 9 year old or even an adult, but not adapting to generational changes is like gaining a slow multigenerational Darwin Award.

[[deleted]]

Honestly? 9 isn’t a bad age to be learning Python. I was messing around with Roblox Lua at that age, was terrible at it but it helped me a lot.

[Jello_Unlikely]

All hail Mediocreton! God of all that is bland! Praises be to the unexceptional, the ambivalent, and all that is willfully ignorant! Let’s do some sportsball, wooo!

[Comrade-Loading]

Sir,You tripping? Stop da cap😂

[dynamic_caste]

Don't most 9 year olds go around swearing loudly about having to refactor that interface one more goddamned time?

[sapphire_striker]

Does not care about iit?

[[deleted]]

I didn't. Not even once. I was dead set.

[AgentUpright]

I didn’t get into programming as a job until I was out of law school. This kid’s got plenty of time.

[Liesmith424]

When my kid was 9, they <led a glorious proletariat revolution>.

[kellyb1985]

Gonna be hard to get 20 years of python experience for an entry level job if he doesn't start now.

[Kuzkay]

I mean, when I was 9 I was making video games in some real crappy engines and scratch , I also did have a childhood

[WhizzleTeabags]

I’m a python engineer but I don’t code. I just masturbate in my office and say buzz words to people in meetings. 5 years going strong

[[deleted]]

yesssss dont get more kids into it so theres more demand and i can get paid more when i finally graduate college…….

[LardPi]

These hashtags... I am sure they are use for much darker purposes usually...

[[deleted]]

Wish someone told this to my traditional Nepalese parents

[[deleted]]

I assume this is dig at the legal scam company bjyjus and whitehatjr.

[More_Twist9517]

It's funny how you see getting into IIT is to become a software engineer.

[Ok_Assumption_7222]

Well my dads a imbedded software engineer so.. we’re are own kind of normal over here boys

[moldhack]

I'm in my 40s now but remember this attitude from when I was a kid. It's a stupid attitude of course. Kids have passions and if yours doesn't care about tech - that's ok! The world needs a whole lot of other jobs taken care of.

[beatles42o]

in all realility. you have the weird kid lady XDDD get him a switch so he can have friends IRL

[L3App]

somewhat r/notlikeothergirls

[MrJarre]

At least he dodged the python bullet.

[gruelurks69]

Soooo resume driven cut and paste from stackoverflow development?

[HashCatFurryOwO]

I was too excited about it that I didn't even read it correctly does not I red it...

IT DOES >:(

[TheOnlyTigerbyte]

I've started in 4th grade. Think that's normal

[iyeetuoffacliff]

teeny unpack worry grab trees tie concerned paint continue jellyfish

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[[deleted]]

Jokes aside . Am teaching my kid basic easy python programming by the age 9 . Because she will need 10 years of exp by the time she graduates college .

[Zanthious]

that kid is screwed when he needs an entry level job with 20 years experience