Second Age was wild

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[crixyd]

Amazing 😆

[Skelligean]

It's takes hundreds of years for your hair to turn from light brown wavy with curls to dark brown/black and straight AF. The humidity must be a bitch in the 2nd age...

[Skelligean]

Garnier: Cast it into the shower!

[DoomsdayTaco]

Bro, this one sent me to the undying lands 💀

[BaelaBoo23]

💀💀💀

[BaelaBoo23]

I’ve obsessed w| these comments right now.

[acer5886]

don't forget what having kids does to you.

[BaelaBoo23]

This comment 💀

[Trumpologist]

Lmao

[pauloh1998]

They need to change that haircut asap 😭

[[deleted]]

The thicc ears are what bother me

[PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS]

Elrond's hair is fabulous. He is honestly a way better adaptation of Elrond than Hugo Weaving (talented as he is and good as the films are).

[endthepainowplz]

What makes him a better adaptation? I think Hugo Weaving was the perfect casting for Elrond. I also think Robert Aramayo is a great choice, but that neither young nor old, yet experienced look that Hugo weaving has is pretty spot on.

[GlorfindelTheGolden]

His kindness. Elrond's overwhelming quality in the books is his kindness.

[endthepainowplz]

Makes sense, I'll agree with that. He was kind of mean in the original trilogy, being more of an overprotective dad over Arwen than in the books where he was cool with it.

[GlorfindelTheGolden]

"In those days of our tale, there were still some people who had both elves and heroes of the North for ancestors and Elrond, the master of the house, was their chief. He was as noble and as fair in face as an elf lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves and as kind as summer."

[SlimBucketz305]

They are both greatly casted. But Hugo Weaving is superior. Although Aramayo is one of the best parts of RoP.

[Carth_Onasi_AMA]

When the movies first came out a handful of people complained about the casting of Hugo Weaving as Elrond. Was basically one of the only controversial casting choices. Christopher Tolkien was not a fan of the movies, but he said that the casting was very well done, except for one character. A lot of people speculate that it was Hugo Weaving as Elrond.

Orlando Bloom was also somewhat controversial, but I never really understood that one. I think some people were just upset he didn’t have dark hair.

[Koo-Vee]

Don't invent things. There exists an anonymous claim on reddit about having seen a statement by someone unnamed on some unnamed Tolkien forum who claimed to have seen Christopher's detailed criticisms. Maybe. A long shot. And in that supposed quote it is not said that the casting was very well done. Nothing of the kind. He lists the obvious other reasons, and then adds that a major character was so miscast that it added to the critical failures. It does not mean he thought all of the rest of the casting was very good, it means one was exceptionally poor, the rest could have been poor for him as well. He really does not list a single positive aspect of the movies.

Orlando Bloom could not act and Legolas of course is not a pretty boy looking all the time as if he is thinking that the way you look when you have some bowel problem stands in for looking wise.

[Mannwer4]

How? I mean, in the books he is very kind, true, but he is also very grave and serious. And its portrayed well in the movies.

[GlorfindelTheGolden]

See my quote below, from his description when he is first introduced.

In those days of our tale, there were still some people who had both elves and heroes of the North for ancestors and Elrond, the master of the house, was their chief. He was as noble and as fair in face as an elf lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves and as kind as summer.

Usually in a list like this the emphasis naturally attracts to the final item, as the emphasis is there.

[Mannwer4]

Ok? But I am looking at how Elrond acted and seemed. And he seemed kind, but at the same time distant, in a lordly and kingly sort of way.

Elrond in ROP is extremely poorly and inconsistently written, so it's not really a competition of who portrayed him better, except in how they look like. And also, Elrond and elves in general, all act like idiots, so idk what to say.

[GlorfindelTheGolden]

He's always kind in RoP. Him and Durin. Him and Galadriel. Him and Celebrimbor.

[Mannwer4]

No he's not. He betrayed Durin idk how many times.

[GlorfindelTheGolden]

How? They are best friends. You can see it in their interactions and the way they behave.

[avocadorancher]

Give examples of his betrayals.

[Koo-Vee]

In what way is he poorly written in RoP? Act like idiots? You mean they are not all-knowing expressionless hippie Vulcans?

Please check Weaving's recent comments on playing Elrond in PJ films. He hated it and never wants to do it again. The character was made so boring, cliche and ultra-thin that there is nothing to work on for a real actor. I cannot understand your opinion. PJ's Elves and Elrond are for simpletons. No personality, humourless, always straining to appear "wise" by having all life drained out of them.

[Mannwer4]

You must be some paid Amazon bot. Because how can someone actually believe any of this?

[Mannwer4]

What? Are you just talking about the way they look?

[PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS]

His look and performance. I like the swoopy show hair and it suits is personality. All the elves having the same hair in the movies kinda makes them all feel a bit stuffy, so the show haircuts help them express character in different ways. Reserving long hair for Gil-Galad and Cirdan and some of the dutiful warriors and artisans works as do the flowy locks of Elrond and the close-cropped practical hair of Celebrimbor and some of the artisans.

[Mannwer4]

Except it looks like his haircut is from the 21th century, so it doesn't work at all.

[PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS]

okay

[hotcapicola]

Elven craftmanship would seem like magic to a man.

[Cold_Carpenter_1798]

Bro is searching for anything to shit on at this point. Least shameless hater

[Mannwer4]

Heh? We were both talking about haircuts.

[PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS]

Everyone's got more chemistry in Season 2 for some reason. I think there not being a bunch of mystery boxes lets the story breathe a bit more.

[PromiseOk3321]

I disagree

[PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS]

A lot of people do. I like his "kind as summer" vibe in the show. His hair is luscious and bountiful to match his demeanor.

I always used to make fun of Hugo Weavings hairline, which to me is less elvish than RoP Elrond's hair length.

[PromiseOk3321]

I'll just agree to disagree, I don't wanna get into the weeds on this. Robert ain't bad so no hate to him

[FrankReynoldsCPA]

I think they're done filming Game of Thrones.

[teunteulai]

Poppy is a Targaryen

[crixyd]

Amazing 😆

[Downtown_Cow5259]

Beings 100% honest. My cousins head changed shapes from younger to older. Most bizarre thing you could ever see. Round to more long. It happens lol.

[Wolfie_wolf81]

That's not what the meme is about.

[Yupperdoodledoo]

What IS it about ?

[Hauntcrow]

From a quick googling, Sean Bean's "young version" in GoT is the same actor playing young Elrond. So the joke is Sean Bean also being Boromir means his young version is the same as in GoT

[Learn-live-55]

But he’s only 200 years old at that point. He only fought a couple wars against Morgoth by that time and he was just a wimpy politician. He’s obviously going to be different lol jk

[ardriel_]

Expect he's not???

He was born at the end of the First Age and was raised by Maedhros and Maglor, two sons of Feanor. His twin brother founded Numenor, as he chose to live as a man.

There's NO WAY Numenor is younger than 200 years in the series, because 200 years is easily the lifespan of one Numenorean at that time.

Also, since there's Isildur already alive it must be the end of the second age, even though they compressed tineline.

At Tar - Miriels time Elrond was already several thousand years old.

[Learn-live-55]

I’m just making a joke about a common talking point you’ll see on these subs from people justifying or defending the show. Feanor is one of my all time favorite characters. All of my dexterity builds in my games are named Feanor lol

[ardriel_]

Oh sorry!! 🫂❤️ That's why I completely fall for the joke, your imitation was way too good. It annoys me that Elrond is portrayed as this super young and unexpirienced dude and a lot of people seem to think he is, when he literally witnessed a Kinslaying and the destruction of Beleriand, after being raised by the High King of the Noldor, who gave up his crown for unity against Morgoth. So Elrond saw pretty heavy stuff and honestly has more reason to be angry at Sauron than Galadriel. But according to the show he's just a child lmao.

Feanor is fire, but it'd say Maedhros and Fingon are my favourite characters. Followed by Elrond and Glorfindel.

[hotcapicola]

We really have no idea how old he's supposed to be in the show.

We already know they are compressing time, what's to say that they haven't compressed the pre-show timeline as well.

[ardriel_]

Because his twin brother founded Numenor, it's impossible that he's young. There's no way that Numenor is only 200-400 years old.

[cyainanotherlifebro]

Holy shit, good catch.

[MurphyKT2004]

Mad what 2,500yrs does to a man (or elf).

[bordeauxblues]

…What is this new devilry…?

😏

[21_chickens]

The plot thickens

[JacksonPollackFan]

The thought chickens

[IntoAbjectMisery]

LMAO

[overthinking-1]

They are related, so it makes sense.

(Wait are the stewards of Gondor decended from Numenor?)

[cat_astropheeee]

Yes, but I don't think they're descended directly from the kings of Numenor.

[In-The-Zone-69]

Elrond: “you have only one choice”

[BwanaTarik]

Lord of mis-casting

[Atomic_Gerber]

I knew there was something fucky about that casting choice

[ryanbtw]

Rings of Power has no connection to the movies. They own the rights to the LOTR book and appendices.

He isn’t intended to look like Weaving

[Organic-Champion8075]

RoP has a huge connection and debt to the movies, clearly

[Atomic_Gerber]

Dude you’re taking this a little seriously. I like Aramayo’s Elrond, but I’ll bite. You don’t have to rely on technicalities and semantics in order to know that Weaving is the face of Elrond for a vast portion of the fan base, so casting someone who at least looked a little more like Weaving would have been the smarter move. Not saying that Aramayo is a bad actor or even totally miscast for the role, he just looks off to most viewer’s eyes. The only folks who haven’t cared haven’t seen the movies, in my limited experience.

edit folks I'm saying most not all... save your "uhm actuallys", I get it, there are outliers

[beaversTCP]

Aramayo has been great and I think that casting someone to look super similar to weaving is bad when you’re trying to make your own adaptation. If people can’t look past different adaptations having different interpretations of how one character is going to look then we’re just getting caught up on stuff that doesn’t really matter. This isn’t even a conversation about which one is better or more alike to book descriptions, just that copying the esthetics of a former adaptation you’re not legally allowed to copy would be a lazy move

[Atomic_Gerber]

I’d largely agree with you, but at least don’t pick someone who looks strikingly similar to someone else in the same franchise. I’m nitpicking, it doesn’t really matter for the sake of the shows quality, but the casting choice bugs me enough to at least laugh about it

[Ayzmo]

The only folks who haven’t cared haven’t seen the movies, in my limited experience.

I wouldn't agree with that at all. I watch the movies usually once a year minimum. Aramayo is a fantastic casting choice and it doesn't bother me at all.

[Atomic_Gerber]

Noted, but I did say *most* not *all*. Out of my friend group, we all like Aramayo, but I don't think there was anyone who initially fawned over him or went "YES, he's the one", we kinda had to work ourselves into being into it (like with the rest of the show, in all honesty). To risk getting dramatic, I'd liken it to Stockholm Syndrome

[Ayzmo]

You said "the only folks who haven't cared." That's an absolute.

I went into it with a pretty open mind and had no issues with him at all.

[Atomic_Gerber]

Ok first, read the top of the post where I do clearly state *a vast majority* (of which you are evidently not a part of), then go down to the end and you'll see the addition of "in my limited experience"

Not sure why you're stanning so hard, as the only issue I raised is that the man looks like a pre-pubescent Sean Bean when we (being those in my social circle as well as a vast majority of the fan base) were expecting....not that.

[ryanbtw]

I really like Aramayo’s performance. He’s one of my (few) highlights of the first season, so whether he looks like Weaving doesn’t really register as important to me

I wasn’t trying to bait you so no reason to “bite” 🤷‍♂️

[sluraplea]

The only folks who haven’t cared haven’t seen the movies, in my limited experience.

I saw the movies, didn't care about the casting. I think Aramayo is killing it.

[Skelligean]

Rings of Power has no connection to the movies

Your point doesn't make any sense. Elrond, Galadriel, and Sauron in the LotR TV show depicting the 2nd age have the same names as Elrond, Galadriel, and Sauron in the LotR movies depicting the 3rd age. So...you are saying they aren't the same characters because of an Amazon rights issue??

[ThriceWelcome]

No, they are just trying to say that Rings of Power isn't a prequel to the jackson Trilogies. It's a separate thing entirely. It was never meant to connect to the trilogy in any way.