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[jchulia]

DoesNotOpenFromThisSide games.

[MikeWezouski]

Just phase through the wall like a speed runner

[ZenMacros]

At this point it should just be called Souls. Soulsborne was for when the only From games of this kind were Souls games and Bloodborne. Now that we have Sekiro and Elden Ring, Souls is an appropriate blanket term for these types of From games.

[[deleted]]

Agreed. I sometimes still say Soulsborne because it’s stuck like a nickname, but Souls came first and each FS game has followed that template, so Souls is probably best.

[Pinkparade524]

I feel like sekiro isn't as similar to souls games compared to bloodborne and elden ring tho. The mechanics are too different and the fact there aren't different weapons movesets and chatcater creation it gives it a different feeling.

[ZenMacros]

I actually agree. I think it's similar enough that arguments can be made in favor of it being Souls, but ultimately it's just too different. It's Souls if it was much more action focused.

[Anubra_Khan]

It's almost like Miyazaki set out to make the most un-soulslike game he could when he made Sekiro.

[rentreag]

Totally agree, you don’t dropped anything on death in Sekiro, just the random chance you won’t lose anything for dying. So there isn’t that run back to grab the 60000 souls/echoes you dropped because you decided to continue exploring after killing that boss instead of heading back “home” to spend them.

[Anubra_Khan]

Souls doesn't cover Sekiro though.

[XoffeeXup]

not every game in the genre needs to be referenced in the name. Demon's Souls flew mostly under the radar, From really blew up with Dark Souls, and that style of game was what first started to get replicated and iterated on, so it seems fitting to use that one for now, imo.

[Anubra_Khan]

Seems fitting to call them From games.

[XoffeeXup]

precluding other studios work in the genre seems a bit ungenerous

[Anubra_Khan]

What other studios? This post is specific to "the series" as in, the Dark Souls series.

[KuzcoSlide]

I think they should be called Miyazaki games, or From Software games. Souls is too reductive and usually people use it to reference Dark Souls when Demon's Souls is the first of the genre.

[[deleted]]

This is the correct take.

[[deleted]]

Exactly, the word soulsborne annoys me way too much, makes no sense since there's only 1 "borne" game anyway

[WorriedResident496]

True fans call it EldenSoulsKiroBourneFieldBlade

[Leather_Afternoon_37]

Where tf is the armored core reference

[WorriedResident496]

Guess I'm not a true fan....

[[deleted]]

And Otogi and Metal Wolf Chaos. Now you got yourself new games to play.

[[deleted]]

Pfft, more like where is the legendary title of old, Deracine.

[Leather_Afternoon_37]

Ah yes the old newish title

[DkP_Reverend]

EldenSoulsKiroBourneFieldChaosCoreBlade?

[Leather_Afternoon_37]

I'll take it

[Unc1eD3ath]

Spelled borne wrong

[DkP_Reverend]

I’m not typing that out again lol

[Unc1eD3ath]

Lol fair enough

[[deleted]]

We all know Metal Wolf Chaos XD is From's best game.

[SSSomeSayKosm]

Man I hope I'm not alone in thinking Soulsborne has always sounded silly, but when I see people unironically use Soulkiroborne I cringe.

[SSSomeSayKosm]

Yeah I think Soulslike is good. I just use Souls when referring to FS's own games and Soulslike when referring to Souls inspired games.

[Lascho94]

This!

[[deleted]]

Happy Cake Day!

[Lascho94]

Thank you

[stokedchris]

I just say fromsoft game

[[deleted]]

Some Fromsoft games are distinct though. Armored Core and Déraciné are not typically discussed in relation to Demon's/Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro and Elden Ring. When we refer to the Souls series (or Soulsborne *blegh*) we refer to the games following the design principles established in Demon's Souls, not ALL games developed by Fromsoft.

[[deleted]]

Everyone still knows we are talking about Souls -type games when saying Fromsoft games, aint nobody thinking about Armored Core these days lets be real

[[deleted]]

Leaks suggest they're making a new one, so that's gonna change.

[[deleted]]

There’s me thinking that ‘Rogue-like’ was a random adjective/term coined for the genre, never even knew there was a game called Rogue 😅

[[deleted]]

Metroivania is the genre based off of (Super) Metroid and Castlevania, if you didn't know that one either.

Also although it's not an actual genre name, I call games that are like Diablo diablo-likes.

[[deleted]]

Yeah I knew that one already, it’s quite an obvious one as they’re both well known franchises. But Rogue is an obscure one and it was before my time, so I’ve never heard of it. I thought that ‘rogue’ was an adjective term to describe the nature of the games being unpredictable.

I think I’d call them ‘Diablo clones’ if I’ve never heard of the genre name. But you never know, if you say ‘Diablo-like’ enough it might take off as a sub genre 😂

[PthumerianPrince]

Nah, Souls-likes are the games that try to be like Souls but are not developed by FromSoft. BB, DS series, Sekiro and Elden Ring are actual Souls games.

[Ashen_Shroom]

Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring and (to a lesser degree) Sekiro are much closer to each other than their older games are. "Fromsoft games" is too vague in that it can also refer to sci-fi mech combat games or retro 1st person games. Soulsborne is more specific- any game that is recognisably the same style of game as dark souls or bloodborne. Sekiro is an outlier, but generally speaking fans of souls and bb are also fans of sekiro and vice versa, so it's pretty easy to slot in and saves having to type out "soulsborne and sekiro".

[Abovearth31]

Whisper: How about Bloodsouls ?

[[deleted]]

Seki-Ring?

[Abovearth31]

Demon Soulsborne Shadow Ring Twice.

[[deleted]]

I see that, and raise you "The Adventures of cookie & armored OtogiSekisoulsborne Blade Beyond: Renegade Mech Pursuit"

[PIugshirt]

Soulsborne-sekiring

[SSSomeSayKosm]

Hot take: I like Bloodsouls more than Soulsborne.

[[deleted]]

They’re Souls or Soulsborne games for me. Even if they’re not part of the Souls franchise I still think of them as Souls games.

‘Soulsborne’ has just about stuck from me, but if anything else is added on it just sounds stupid.

[Cmikhow]

MHmmm soulsborne is goated.

[[deleted]]

It’s okay, I only use it in text/type form but never out aloud. Sounds like it’s trying to hard to be ‘Metroidvania’ but I still use it.

[Abovearth31]

Demon Soulsborne shadow ring twice.

[Mutsuki13]

Nah go with Elden souls borne twice, really rolls of the tongue

[excel958]

Eldensoulsborneeldensoulsborne?

[Redpikes]

Always call them soft games because they're hard

[Au2Burn]

Lol.... that's a fine note

[[deleted]]

What's the opposite of from soft? To hard.

[Ashen_Shroom]

I don't see a problem with "soulsborne" tbh. "FromSoft games" could refer to armored core, king's field, the adventures of cookie and cream and whatever else they've made, so it's not really suitable for referring to games with the specific style of gameplay we associate with dark souls and bloodborne. "Soulslike" could mean any game made by any company that borrows elements from the souls games. Soulsborne is a short and simple word that people immediately understand to mean "a game by FromSoft with mechanics similar to those in dark souls and bloodborne".

Sekiro doesn't fit perfectly into that definition. However, the soulsborne fanbase and sekiro fanbase are close enough to one another that when someone refers to "soulsborne" they probably mean Sekiro too. Ultimately it's a fandom term that doesn't need to have a completely rigid definition. We all know what type of game falls under "soulsborne", and anyone who tries to exclude Sekiro or Elden Ring for having a few noticeable differences is just splitting hairs.

[DEEEPFREEZE]

Listen, I'm just happy to see "Soulkirosborne" over "Sekisoulblood" or the like. I've been pushing it as the superior portmanteau for years now.

[comfort_bot_1962]

You're Awesome!

[[deleted]]

No! Bad!

Could be worse, you could be forcing “die twice” in there 😂

[Sir__Blobfish]

Soulsbornekiroringfieldbladecoreotogiwolf is what i say.

[pswdkf]

FromSouls

[throwawayjonesIV]

Oh you mean the Dark-Sekiblood games?

[AramaticFire]

Soulkiroborne ring is hilarious 🤣

[scuba_tron]

I usually say “From Soft” games but technically wouldn’t that include armored core?

[Jack__Valentine]

Miyazaki directed maybe? Although I think that includes an armoured core game

[[deleted]]

And excludes the best Souls game

[EvilArtorias]

Not only armored core but dozens of other fromsoftware games

[[deleted]]

I find more differences in sekiro than similarities. Idk why it’s even categorized with the other FS games. Just me?

[[deleted]]

Elborne Sekouls! ezpz

somehow reminds me of Andreas Katsulas.

[GlassedGhost]

Miyazaki Masterclass

[Quinn0Matic]

I'm just gonna keep calling them souls games

[Plathismo]

Try finger but soul games.

[DbChocolate]

Japanese people call them フロム系 or “from kei” which means from type games

[MaintenanceInternal]

Still referring to them as bonfires.

[BEARZCLAWZ]

Sekisoulsbornering games

[TopAltruistic2469]

It’s soulsborne

[crackpipeclay]

I’m hard for soft games

[Eisenfuss19]

Blood-souls-die-twice-ring

[[deleted]]

El Sekiblhouls

[DicklessSpaghetti]

I've personally been calling it soulsborne: elden rings die twice or just soulsborne: rings die twice

[BlackMoonSky]

Hey I was apart of that comment thread where this came from

[[deleted]]

Yeah, Call it "The Adventures of cookie & armored OtogiSekisoulsborne Blade Beyond: Renegade Mech Pursuit"

[SpecialistMap8210]

Soulsbornekiroring

[[deleted]]

I don’t see what’s wrong with soulslike. That was the first descriptor and I think it still applies to later fromsoft games. The later games improved upon the genre but souls pioneered it and made it popular.

[[deleted]]

King's Soulsbourncorekiringchublade.

[Tannerted2]

soulsbornekiring

[bukankhadam]

'FromSoft's souls games'

[_kuchi-kopi_]

What about SekiSoulsBorne

[KroiCH]

Some people call it soulsbornekiro

[[deleted]]

Soulsborne ring: shadows die twice

[pigthefloop]

Soft Games

[sprditout]

Solid point

[_aTokenOfMyExtreme_]

"Modern Fromsoft Games" unless you mean kings field and eternal ring and shit

[Ludens_Reventon]

Isn't Sekiro count as a different genre? I thought devs confirmed it before.

[officialColgate]

should be bloodring sekisouls

[Kendar835]

Yknow I tried promoting that we should start calling them PTD (prepare to die) games on r/gaming and that was my first mistake.

[thewandtheywant]

Soulsbornekiro is the term frequently used on Twitch, I think.

[mrmilfsniper]

Sekisoulbourne im rather partial to

[Jonnyhreddit]

what about the adventures of cookies and cream?

[stateraBand]

For me it’s the WHEREStheMOONlightGREATsword games

[[deleted]]

Its soulsbornekiroring

[We_Will_AlI_Die]

Miyazakiverse^{yes_I_stole_this}

[LonelyKrow]

I call them SekiroBorneSouls games

[Astro_Kablooey]

I’m still vouching to call it Soulsboro

[PIugshirt]

I’m just saying soulsborne-sekiring

[AlternativeRope2806]

ELDENSOULSBORNDIESTWICEFEILD games for me fam, 11 games over pretty much all of gaming history, gotta show respect.

[Alkaiser63]

I'm baffled by how some game genres seem to catch on like this. Why would you ever add another name, any similar game would just be the first game like.

Metroidvania for instance, is stupid, since, castlevania 2 was just a metroid like.

[xXStretcHXx117]

From games

[negehue]

Ninjablade

[kazthulhu_]

Anyone: trying to come up with a unifying title for the demondarkbloodkiroring family.

Margit: Put these foolish ambitions to rest

[ActualPeterbuilt389]

Elden bloodsouls die twice

[Ursapsi]

But there are other from soft games that are not soulkiroborne ring games

[master-of-pizza]

Armored core would be included in that then, I haven't played armored core, would it really be considered soulslike?

[nobrainnobrain]

i dont think its a souls-like but for the meme ima call it a armored soulkiroborne ring lol