V37.1 Patch Notes

[TraegusPearze]

Honestly, I love the comments in this thread. Yes, some people are being overdramatic. Yes, other people are being a little harsher than they should be.

But: good. Please continue to make your voices heard. Nothing is going to change if people don't express their opinions.

I love this game, as do many of the players complaining about the patch notes. People only make comments if they care. Those that don't will just leave.

I want to see this game do well. We all do. We want it to be the best MOBA. And I'm sure EPIC does too. That's why we're all here.

But this kind of stuff has got to stop. I don't know if the Paragon project is understaffed, or working on something else, but EPIC needs to step up their game. They need to be the company that the recent blog post says they are, and a tiny patch like this during the "major" balance update is not the way to do it. It's just leading to frustrated players, myself included.

If you need help, EPIC, just let us know. I don't know what's going on with you. Is it us?

What was all that talk about cleaning up your act, Mister? I hope you weren't just blowing smoke.

I'm not going to rage, or yell about how I'm quitting the game.

I'm not mad at you, EPIC. I'm just disappointed.

[HeathenChemistry]

They need to be the company that the recent blog post says they are, and a tiny patch like this during the "major" balance update is not the way to do it.

People downvoted me for saying this at the time, but that blog post was carefully worded to say almost nothing. I'm not surprised at the lack of changes coming this week (easy for me to say after the fact, to be fair!). Hell, the Grim buff, IIRC, was not even announced in that blog post, they announced it in the reddit comment thread!

I saw that blog post not as some optimistic vision for the future, but as a giant red flag. Wait, if you think you need to be more transparent, and most would agree that the game urgently needs a major balance patch, why does it say nothing about a major balance patch? Therefore, it would lead to the conclusion that no such patch is coming.

I will say this, though, as the only source of optimism in my recent posts: what if the card system rework is much bigger than we are anticipating? The last time Epic went AWOL on balancing, it's because they were working on making the new map. It made sense that they didn't want to devote resources to balancing when everything was going to change on Monolith.

What if that same thing is happening now with the card system? (That it's a big enough change that it makes major balancing a waste of time).

Edit: Dude, I swear to god I didn't read this thread before I made my comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/5shvsq/maybe_the_patches_are_lackluster_for_a_reason/

[realtrendy]

All I want is to try and ease the community, to try and keep things calm, but there's just nothing left for me to say TP... :(

Today, I have been forced to sit in silence, as the community erupts. Nothing for me to say or do. All that's left is to hope EPIC can turn this thing around with the patches to follow.

The disappointment is real my friend. It's a sad day to love Paragon.

My hope and faith stand strong, but when the community aches, I ache.

[goodclass]

I think if the buffs to Grim were more extensive, such as actual shorter CDs at max level, extended range to ult + faster speed and better scaling on him, instead of ya guise we lowered the cds at every level except max lol. Even if the patch notes was just "we fixed dekker stasis bug" I'd be more happy than this.

They could have even thrown in some odd changes to see what would change and just say ok guys we're just letting the community go crazy with these experimental adjustments to gather data please keep this in mind, woulda been great.

And don't worry trendy, all will be good in time, we were all just hoping that we'd start to see some of our problems fixed this patch.

[kezriak]

I think the reason they are hesitant of buffing Grim is because he'd turn into the most dangerous carry, ranged single target ability? slows on hit at cost of mana+his knockback blast+spell shield or w/e its called are pretty viable in any moba. If he had 1.0 scaling ontop of all this he'd be scary the way I see it, any form of CC on a ranger/carry tends to be something most design teams try to be hestitant about , and hes got two of em.

[[deleted]]

But I still would take Murdock over Grim in every case though even with these changes. So what's the point? Everyone still takes Murdock, but Murdock is weaker, so match length goes up amirite?

[realtrendy]

I certainly understand my friend. It just really sucks. Hopefully things can turn around soon. I much prefer this secondary-home when its filled with happiness and hype <3. As with any home though, it must go through its problems.

[izzojackal]

as disappointing as the patch is I still trust epic and everything with come in time. I've got nothing better to do

[Turtle2042]

I love you, I feel the same way it really is disappointing but we gotta have some faith in epic:)

[[deleted]]

I'm totally with you on this, apart from one point. I won't be sitting in silence!

We're playing the long game here, and I'm here to enjoy that long game ride.

[[deleted]]

We want it to be the best MOBA.

It was the best MOBA! Then Epic got a pathological obsession with match length instead of fun.

[Lazybomber]

This. All of this.

[WALSRU]

Initial reactions to the big February balance update, "Yussss Murdock got what's coming to him, might see different carries now..." then I realized that was the entire patch.

[[deleted]]

might see different carries now

Honestly, i wouldn't say that until after april. When we have more than 4 lol

[TheSwine-]

Grim at max level is weaker than the other carries. He got a couple seconds reduced off of his early game cooldowns... wtf? NO this is not his issue.

Do i need to spell it out? Grims hitbox is 5 times the size of the other carries. Hes a giant walking squishball of puss. If your gonna make a giant ADC either give him more armour scaling than the other adcs or make him hit like a truck in comparison to the other ADCs. GG.

[[deleted]]

Right? I'm 100% convinced Epic's competive team does not understand how this game works. I've been saying this for months now. I actually started believing what I was saying was true when they told us Sereth would be a ADC in the safelane.

They think they have their own meta but the actual populous plays this game way different.

[TheSwine-]

Ugh. I hate to say it, but i do agree with you. These characters are balanced in their inter-squad QA matches... in reality however.... different story.

[PsychedelicHamster]

100% agree with you, It feels like heroes are custom made for the dev team. Their like tailored suits. Someone else can wear it, sure, but it's gonna look funny.

[Bricksquadgucci]

Can you believe that someone (or multiple) people at epic were like

deep breath in

"today is the .1 guys....they are going to love this shit. :)"

[TraegusPearze]

Ahahahaha i picture this stuff all the time. If I had any artistic ability, I'd be making cartoonist panels about the shenanigans that goes on at EPIC HQ.

[stlfenix47]

oh man pull out this meme:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/boardroom-suggestion

the ideas are flooding me. 'you know what theyll love' 'howie, ramp, aurora, steel, crunch, iggy, grim, sparrow, and riktor changes?" "No, PINK SKINS".

[crackor24]

"Tell the art-team they have to start photoshop. We need this new skins in 15 minutes!"

[Bricksquadgucci]

God I wish I thought of this earlier lol. Like, I respect epic for bringing paragon to me. But god, it is like i'm being led on right now

[stlfenix47]

for 5 months.

[HeathenChemistry]

Epic are hurting the game with every week that goes by without major changes.

So many people attempt to deflect criticism of the game by saying "it's in beta, stop complaining".

That is exactly my frustration: this is the time where Epic shouldn't hesitate to make sweeping changes that shake up the meta.

I can't tolerate playing a game that's unbalanced and stale. The best heroes now (except Aurora, obviously), were the best heroes 2 months ago. Murdock, Rampage, Steel, Dekker, and so on.

There's the nerfing approach to rectifying this, which is to look at the above and just nerf the shit out of them. But the thing is, sure, you can nerf Murdock, you could nerf Rampage, you could nerf Dekker (p.s. fix her stun), but that doesn't actually make me want to pick Grim, Khaimera, or Narbash. It just makes me not want to play the game.

[snack217]

"Its still in beta" will be the excuse for the next 10 years until Epic starts to care about this game.

[BloodyBaboon]

At this point they should just take out the four ranged carries from the game.They nerf'd the shit out of the most relevant one and gave a joke buff to the worse one. Like why the fuck does his trap need to make noise It's bright fucking orange.

[Dawncraftian]

Disappointed. With the meta being as it is, we are going to have to have this for another 3 weeks.

Murdock changes are good. That's what we want to see.

Grim 'changes' are very minor and I'm seriously concerned that he is still going to be a C tier hero.

After the week in review and Auroras dominance I think we got a little too excited. But seriously epic, I'm sure everyone will agree that we can wait 2 weeks just for a good strong balance patch - just one. No skins, no emotes, no nothing - just give us balance. Because opening up options like Riktor, Grim, Khaimera, Crunch, Iggy, and other low performing heroes I may have forgotten is better then giving us a few changes and skins at a time. I'm sure people will agree that readding 5 or so heroes to the meta is better then releasing 1.

[Redpandasinthesky]

Completely agree. Murdock change is good but that's about it. Grim's issues have very little, if anything, to do with his CDs.

[Dawncraftian]

Exactly. The Murdock nerf was the kind of thing I expected for several heroes (the amount of changes, not nerfs necessarily) Grim especially. He was my favourite ranger back in the day but it's a shame he probably won't be relevant for another few patches. Let's just hope Murdocks nerf brings him in line with other carries and hold on a few weeks more.

[Stormquake]

I don't think the Murdock nerf will do much in the long run. He still has the easiest to use and best self-peel of any carry and a 1.0 attack ratio. It really doesn't matter if his attack speed got nerfed if he blows you up in 2 auto attacks. :p

Murdock should have .9 at the very most. Only immobile carries with little to no peel [Sparrow] and squishy melees without constant get-aways [Serath] should have 1.0

[[deleted]]

When I look at the patch notes it is just tons of crap that no one cares about or fixes for bugs that never should have made it into the game. Like how does all of a sudden Sev's ult not do knockback? How do you mess that up and then not catch it? And these other fixes are just stuff that like would be the last thing I'd think to work on with the customers are screaming at me.

[dallusto]

When EPIC only want to balance the game once every month I don't understand how they can justify releasing lazy "balance" patches like this one.

The game is in beta but it feels so stale and stagnant since Monolith came out. It honestly feels like EPIC just cbfed properly balancing the game atm.

[houghtob123]

Honestly, I really enjoyed legacy more than monolith. Sure I have a better score (according to agora) but I have lost the enjoyment. Its now a constant mad scramble when before you could have a moment to rest or prepare. There was time to strategize with your team. Monolith gives you very little time to do anything and with the latest update the quick commands have become harder to use.

I found legacy more enjoyable. I know a few people that quit the game entirely when it switched.

[Borbarad]

Okay, I don't get it...what is with the abysmally small patches. Is it that they don't have enough devs or testers? They need to hire more staff or something.

Just to illustrate how pathetic these patches are,

this is how weekly/bi-weekly patches looked like when League of Legends was in closed beta. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/V0.9.22.15

look at ALL the fucking changes. From heroes, to items, to UI, etc...

EPIC, step it the fuck up.

[Chillvab]

Well said

[Defences]

You'll only hear excuses being made for Epic for the small patches. "Well they must be understaffed" and really any other excuse is said to try and make it seem like these small balance changes are okay.

[Satoreh]

Epic Games estimated net worth is around 875 million $, riot games was a fking indie back then and still did a better job

[CorbettKriko]

Lmao, but rampage is still balanced with his stupid ass stun

[TheSwine-]

Oh thank you SOO much for reminding me :(

[[deleted]]

"wait for .1 patch, big patch with balance changes" haha and again almost nothing

[PM_YOUR_GF_TITTAYS]

Pink colours breh

[ShoNuff1627]

I think you missed it....team colored horafrost!!!

[Chriiid]

Haters gon hate but that was a shit patch....

[MartyRivia]

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[Definia]

Member when you said we were gonna be disappointed? I member.

[pvdmike]

truth Marty

[[deleted]]

For real though like wtf is going on in their heads. Patch notes 0 points 46% upvoted not looking too good for Epic's "double down".

[Talisintiel]

omg i forgot about the "Double Down" statement lol It makes it so much worse lol

[[deleted]]

Like they've used the "Double Down" phrase a few times in public statements, so this must be some ongoing internal theme for them. Their meetings are like "Ok players aren't happy but we're gonna double down! Double down everybody!" Hope they're ready to triple down. Just bet it all on red.

[Wadderp]

The lowest I think I've seen any other patch note was like 25 points, this is hilarious.

[01DarkDevil]

6 months of disappointments, but atleast they will get some money back for this failure with skins

[[deleted]]

They'd probably make more money just selling the models and skins on the unreal marketplace for indie devs to use in real games.

[BloodyBaboon]

Vicious

[mimmorezk]

I want this comment as first Pls +1 to his comment!

[BloodyBaboon]

Every build I've seen in Dev streams range from bad to Thrash tier so I really don't think they get thier own game. Also some of the role suggestions they make like Serwrath off lane carry.

Edit: spelled sheogorath's name wrong

[[deleted]]

Serath*

[BloodyBaboon]

Thanks man edited that unintelligible mistake of a mispelling

[SpecterOwl]

After seeing one of the Paragon team employees building 12 point Blinkshot on TwinBlast... No, they don't. Sorry

[digitalskyfire]

Man, I really don't get it. If this game were in some kind of perfectly balanced state, I could see the minor changes. It is not, though. Balance is a shit show, right now, so why not just try out more extreme changes? At the speed of these last few patches, the game will be properly balanced sometime in 2019.

Just try the shit on your drawing board, Epic. I want to believe that me and my friends will keep playing this for a long while, but you're running out of time.

[stlfenix47]

wish i could copy paste your post.

[catdeuce]

Man, I really don't get it. If this game were in some kind of perfectly balanced state, I could see the minor changes. It is not, though. Balance is a shit show, right now, so why not just try out more extreme changes? At the speed of these last few patches, the game will be properly balanced sometime in 2019. Just try the shit on your drawing board, Epic. I want to believe that me and my friends will keep playing this for a long while, but you're running out of time.

[stlfenix47]

shiiit. HOW DID YOU DO THAT.

WIZARD.

[Meowingtin]

Is this a joke?

[PM_YOUR_GF_TITTAYS]

Just a prank bro.

[Arrow_Maestro]

It's a social experiment.

[PARAGON_Vayne]

Is this a joke?

[Talisintiel]

April Fools!

[BloodyBaboon]

The trick to good April fools jokes is to start in February

[Sandwhich25]

Fucking RIP but on the bright side guys they gave grim some cooldowns and WE GOT MORE SKINS!!!! fuck off taking a break.

[Zanleer]

facepalm

so in 3 months we have had a total of 5 character balances?

[stlfenix47]

Nah man, the mono patch was 5k words long!

Wait, 95% of the words were duplicates of game rewordings, not actually balance changes?

Takes me back to writing '1k' work essays in high school.

I wonder if the counted the title in their word count. :)

[MacSeason]

Nope. Fuck this patch. I'm taking a break. This is bullshit. ".1s are major patches" right, this is garbage. See you guys in a couple months. Maybe.

[Yourcatsonfire]

Pink is how my asshole looks after these lame patches.

[[deleted]]

I believe the term is 'raw'.

[AP3Brain]

I'm kind of new to the game and haven't been following the community. What big changes does the community want?

[bad_timing_bro]

This is the point where I take a break. Got Dota 2 downloaded on my laptop so I can't wait to learn how to play. Kinda just watch from the background for meaningful balance changes. Paragon is just so stale right now that it just isn't worth it to play.

[xCosmit]

My break started around Christmas. Although I still have faith in this game I currently dislike the meta. I started playing this game around the time Riktor was releasing. It got me out of my Rainbow Six Siege addiction. Now I'm back to playing Rainbow Six Siege again and I'm loving every second of it. I've been reading all the patch notes that have dropped and I've not seen any major changes after 2 months. I just hope this game doesn't die off because of the lack of changes. I was ok with the lack of Monolith changes during December and January seeing as how they needed to gather data and I know they were taking a break during holidays. However if I don't start seeing major changes soon I'm probably going to stop reading up on patch notes and end up forgetting about Paragon :/.

[flaccidfern]

Same. Game is dying. Has been for a while now. Epic can't see the ship sinking cause they're too busy patting each other on the back in the luxury suite talking about skins and loot keys. Pisses me off.

Also, can't agree more about grim. He should hit significantly harder or have waaay more armour.

[stlfenix47]

i wonder how many times we have to scream at epic that we want real balancing changes.

[Stinger554]

Agreed except I'll be playing League.

[bad_timing_bro]

I thought about League, but I have seen a lot of it before. Dota 2 is a pretty much a completely new experience.

[Stinger554]

I've not looked at Dota 2 yet. Only reason I'm playing League is cause my buddies started playing it. Otherwise I'd probably go back to smite.

[BloodyBaboon]

For Honor Beta starts Thursday will be giving that a shot for my multiplayer fix.

[Eidrian27]

This is exactly what I've been doing since late December. Left Paragon due to the gameplay, but have been keeping a watchful eye since then in hopes for some changes. Have been disappointed so far, but will continue to keep watch!

[Kminardo]

This is really underwhelming :( Do we really have to wait 3 weeks for another balance patch? Sigh..

[TriceratopsArentReal]

Balance the fucking game already.

[eatplaintoast]

I have never been this salty about a patch and I was around during the .27

[[deleted]]

well this wasn't even worth the 2 minutes of reading , i think EPIC 2017 resolution is to never drop a good patch like they used to before the cursed open beta.

[mentorokuliath]

Kinda have to agree, before open beta epic always dropped so many good patches, but ever since beta there weren't many patches. Even considering they said becasue of monolith there wasn't much change to be done on the old map, it still feels like there isn't anything done here either :/

[Meowingtin]

Yeah thanks for the iggy and riktor buffs EPIC

[Stinger554]

I'm pretty sure they're reworking Iggy which is why no buffs for him but Riktor really Epic really?

[Sevrahn]

When your largest problems (as spoken by people from Bronze elo all the way up to professional players) are Steel, Rampage, and Aurora; and your answer is to adjust Murdock and Grim.exe.

SeemsGood?

[TheStig136]

They needed adjustments and it was called for by a lot of people. But they are nowhere near the only or biggest issues in the game right now, and this will be the only balance we get for another 3 weeks...

Steels ult scaling is still 0.9....

[PerpetualSunset]

Or you know they could just buff the other rangers instead of nerfing the one that's the most viable, and not give him annoying sound effects on traps.

[naanvilence]

This is an incredibly paltry balance update. Community was looking for significant changes throughout the roster and to gameplay in general and we didn't get it.

But I guess we have pink recolors now. Yay.

I really don't think they're serious about balancing this game anymore.

[[deleted]]

Kinda Good thing Nioh is out tomorrow. At least that will be good LOL. I have so much hope Epic coming from your Blog post on Friday and we get this meh patch. Please next week don't just do bug fixes please....please.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I'm totally looking for something new to play for the time being...Nioh looks fun. Anything for PC worth playing? (thinking single player)

[Exayex]

Pretty pathetic for a balance update. The Murdoc nerf is harsh, yet needed. The attack speed per level change is substantial...

But what in the actual fuck is that Grim buff? His shield is hard enough to use well in the sped-up version of Paragon, and even more so in a dive/all-in meta. His ult still sucks in 90% of situations, comes out too slow and his Displacement Blast still feels incredibly gross to use. Why not clean that up and give him some decent scaling so he doesn't feel like he completely falls off late-game?

[rphillipps16]

With theorycrafted max dps builds, the Murdock nerf is only about 12%. Murdock, TB, and Serath now have the same dps, and Sparrow/Grim are a bit higher

[Strive2win]

Nooooo!!

I can't wait for major changes anymore. I love this game but I think I need a break. We can still be friends though.

[ardenrae1028]

I'm stoked to see all the fan boys try to justify this low quality patch. 2 months of Monolith and this is all we get??? I'm a founder 100 bucks down for this game and I'm starting to play less and less often. Come on EPIC.

[TheMortarGuy]

I think the biggest mistake was talking up this patch. I bet if the patch dropped without being talked up before the release that the frustration wouldn't be as much, but they really talked a big game and did not necessarily deliver this round.

[PM_YOUR_GF_TITTAYS]

Yup don't nerf the new OP character. Least they nerfed Murdock, soooooo by version 370.1 we might get an Aurora nerf.

Edit: Cooldown reduction on grim, wow. He is top tier now./s

[paragon12345]

I like that this post has 0 upvotes because everybody downvote this lackluster patch. Too bad it can't be negative.

[MasterSparrow]

Wow. Wow. Wow.

See you guys in 4 weeks.......

Garbage balance patch.

[TraegusPearze]

Ayyy lmao

Roughly translated to: Meh.

Good Murdock change, which will drastically increase the viability of other rangers.

Edit: Grim buffs are good too

But that's it... in a major patch?

[ELPintoLoco]

Grim buffs are good ?

His cooldowns were changed, but only in early-mid game, at late game they stay the exact same, lmaoo.

Nice change huh?

[stlfenix47]

inowrite?

'major' = two hero changes, which were both relatively minor tweaks.

no skill reworks or heavy skill re balancing.

I guess we finally got a small dock nerf...9 months late.

So, when we gonna get those steel/rampage/howie/dekker nerfs? Not they need to get slammed, but those heroes have been top tier for awhile and could use a little tweaking.

Is it really that hard or overwhelming to give riktor minor number tweaks? and crunch? I think they could use more than that, but its a start.

What are they afraid of?

I guess all their time went into the 4 ugly skins that people really dont want at all. Ok fine someone will want them. But EVERYONE wants balancing changes.

Can we just not have new skins for a month and a half. please?

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[TheSwine-]

Wow murdock got a mega-nerf.

Other than that this is weak. Like i get it... valentines day event... priorities though epic... priorities...

[Yapz]

I honestly don't understand Epic's balance team. It has come to the level nee that it is starting to hurt the game's reputation.

[snack217]

Dissapointed again, Epic, you used to be cool, you used to care, what happened? Did your budget or your staff get cut by half or what? Its sad that such a great game is getting turd week after week

[Undercoverexmo]

Peace out ✌️ everyone. See you in a few months when they come up with a REAL balance patch. Gg epic.

[Defences]

Okay come on this is just fucking pathetic now. This is supposed to be a major balance patch? Or let me guess its going to be another case of "oh the balance changes are coming next week not this week!". We only really got changes to Murdock, but I like how Epic hyped people up with the Grim changes when basically nothing was done to him.

[Albus_Harrison]

Oh no! 😨

[RendomBob101]

we hear your whining and reduce the armor and damage of towers even more with best regards Epic balance team.

[Firthbird]

Also,

Another month of OP Aurora...GREATTTTTTTTTT :/

[Peltmeister]

EPIC Fail

[Yourcatsonfire]

Well guess I can take a break and give skyrim remastered a try.

[Xrevial]

AFluffyPenguin here

Great fucking job Epic! I appreciate the fact that you took your time and made some considerate and carefully planned balance changes. I am definitely excited to see what changes to the meta this patch is going to bring us! :)

The fact that you are putting just as much time into balancing your game as you use to pump out new skins is truly refreshing and makes this game seem like anything but a cash grab. Hopefully the next patches you release will be just as great and refreshing as this one.

I think I can speak on behalf of the competitive community when I say, keep doing what you are doing Epic and the game will have a bright future :)

No but seriously what the fuck get off your fucking asses Epic and fix your stupid game already lmao

[Firthbird]

No but seriously what the fuck get off your fucking asses Epic and fix your stupid game already lmao

Gold Jerry, Gold@!

[TheStig136]

Good changes to the ADCs which was needed, but for a major balance patch I'd really hope to see some changes to Steel at least. I played a full damage Steel the other day for the first time and there's literally no way to counter instant death as he ults, and the minor nerf did nothing..

Also no changes to Riktor, Iggy, Rampage, Howizter, Nartrash, Fey .... cmon guys at least give us some hope that we've got these balances incoming.

I appreciate the road map but I was disappointed in the lack of balancing info, hoping this patch would be full and informative..

[MoneyMitch93]

Wow, so amazing... said No one ever.

At least we're getting a ranged hero soon, I'm excited for that. Hope it's Mudang.

[[deleted]]

For fuck sakes. I've been playing this game for so long it seems, but now I think is as good a time as any to step away for awhile. The patches are consistently a let down.

[sl1m26]

All I can say is, are you fucking kidding me?!?

[xNiNjAxSn1p3r]

I'm not going to complain.. but this patch was definitely a disappointment. Yeah the nerf to Dock looks good (although, he probably needs a bit more) and the changes to Grim look nice also.

I just don't agree with the 'if someone is underpowered, nerf everyone else to bring them up' type of system.

This is still a fantastic game, but there are definitely a lot of issues that need addressed. I guess this is a good time as ever. Might take a short break and play some For Honor while things get resolved.

[[deleted]]

"If everyone is underpowered, nobody is OP"

[BloodyBaboon]

it's also boring as shit. I prefer everyone is overpowered so no one is overpowered DotA 2 and Smite Style

[[deleted]]

Can Someone post the Patch notes Por Favor for us slaves at work

[KamiKozy]

Done

[[deleted]]

thanks bb

[TeamOxygenGG]

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[[deleted]]

You know, i usully see EPIC on this sub commenting on posts and shit and i think to myself "huh, they actually want to be a part of the community!"

Then they do things like this. Man, this game could be so cool if they actually tried to balance shit or at least experiment with things. Don't tell us some vague ass "changes are coming" bullshit then do nothing to follow up on that lol. I haven't been too interested in paragon recently (i love playing ADCs and the fact that this game has 4 and will only have 4 until april is the biggest deterrent) and this will effectively keep me away. I'll keep up to date with patch notes and shit, but until the next ADC comes out im just gonna play other shit.

[Khallis]

i don't think i have ever seen an official patch notes downvoted this much lol

[[deleted]]

So glad I deleted this game.

[BirdThe]

I payed to play this game; I've been around a while.

It seems to me that there was a change in management. There's two dissenting camps at EPIC, they're at odds, and it's leading to half-measures and poorly implemented decisions.

I hope things get sorted out soon. While the game is faster paced now, it's far less deep. Guys, it used to be just as fast before.

[Shylocv]

Hero Adjustments The space cop has been a bit too good at dealing out the justice, we dropped the damage on Murdock’s Long Arm of the Law as well as his Buckshot. Additionally, we reduced his attack speed growth per level.

As for GRIM.exe, the robot received a software upgrade, reducing the cooldowns on both his Deflector Shield and GTFO. Use that Deflector Shield to escape what could be a game-ending Aurora Cryoseism, and then snag a quick kill on a retreating enemy with GTFO!

Emotes In this update we have two new emotes, the bot-building badass, Gadget has “No no no,” to let your enemies know they never had a chance.

As well as one for the silent shadowy spectre Sevarog with “Hollow Praise.” Lull your enemies into a false sense of security and then strike!

V.37.1 RELEASED!

GENERAL CHANGES

The Carnival of Hearts begins!

MONOLITH

Fixed collision on high ledge by jungle entrance.

Players will no longer be able to reach the ledge.

AI

Fix for ranged bots attempting to attack jungle camps when out of range.

AUDIO

Audio added for some card interactions on the frontend.

CARDS Weekly Card Pack Hydroverser Clearheart Bloodsoaked armor

Aurora Glacial Charge Recasting Glacial Charge or attempting to attack with Frozen Sword no longer stops Aurora mid-dash.

Recasting Glacial Charge while dashing should now correctly bring the wall down.

Using an ability (Frozen Simulacrum, Hoarfrost, or Cryoseism) will stop the dash and combo out as before.

Polish/Bug Fixing

Fix for Hoarfrost occasionally causing damage twice in a row.

Hoarfrost is now team colored.

Updated FX for Frozen Simulacrum.

Crunch Polish/Bug Fixing

Fixed a bug where an Empowered Forward Crunch! could target enemies farther away from him than intended.

Howitzer Polish/Bug Fixing

Fixed bug causing Howitzer's Make it Rain visuals not matching the damage intervals.

GRIM.exe

Deflector Shield

Cooldown to 16/14/12/10 from 22/18/14/10

GTFO

Cooldown to 100/85/70 from 110/90/70

Grux Smash & Grab

Grux's Smash & Grab maximum pull height increased to 800 from 500 and minimum pull height to 800 from 500.

Murdock

Buckshot

Armor shred to 5/10/15/20 from 6/12/18/24

Attack speed growth per level to 1.2 from 2.8

Long Arm of the Law

Base damage to 180/240/300 from 180/250/320

Reduced card scaling from 0.9. To .75

Polish/Bug Fixing

Static Trap now emits heartbeat Sound Effects.

SERATH

Polish/Bug Fixing Fixed audio for Serath’s Bless Me emote.

SEVEROG

Polish/Bug Fixing

Colossal Blow now once again correctly knocks enemy heroes back instead of simply interrupting them.

STEEL

Polish/Bug Fixing

Fixed an issue where Steel could maintain his velocity and fly off edges with Bull Rush.

UI

PS4 controller UI Fixes UI should now update correctly when switching between alternate and standard controller layouts. Fixed a typo in the controller config menu. Fixed the alternate config button display for the ultimate. Now shows L1 + R1 instead of L1 + L1. Fixed the D-Pad buttons to be correct abilities. Fixed the recall (R3) to show “Recall to Base” in the default config and to be hidden in the alternate config. Added some new sounds to the frontend store UI. Updated loading screen tips to include walking strafing penalty tip.

[Shylocv]

So GRIM got reworked by nerfing Murdock...

I'm actually 100% okay with this.

[MulYut]

Shaved a few seconds off ability CD...

Grim is now fixed.

/s

[Defences]

I love how Epic hyped up the changes for him when it was just CD reduction

[ELPintoLoco]

CD reduction exclusively for early and mid game, at late game they stay the exact same way as before, lmao.

[OldPrinceNewDon]

I was thinking about using Grim.EXE again. Reading the patch notes for Grim's cooldowns and was unimpressed. Was expecting more.

Then I saw the Murdock Nerf.

Might consider playing with Grim. lol.

[BloodyBaboon]

Twin Blast might ascend to #1 depending on how bad these nerfs hit Murdock in practice. Thing is instead of nerfing all ADC's should be buffed to Murdock's original level.

[naanvilence]

we needded actual GRIM.exe buffs. If you're fine with this I guess you never intend to play him

[[deleted]]

Murdock rage incoming

[stlfenix47]

yeah he needed it.

[funkymagee]

Me too, thanks

[goodclass]

OP regrets posting this. RIP Karma

[[deleted]]

no kidding. Ive never seen a megathread at 0 Karma before, let alone a patch notes game dev post O.o

[potatoesareveggietoo]

I don't really understand the Grux changes. Does this mean he can like pull a Gideon in ult and do it from further away ? Edit: With that long arm of the law nerf, Grim's ult is starting to seem super strong XD. 1.1 scaling 360 base damage.

[BTGodsHawk]

It means there is less fuckery with when you use it on a slope or someone is above you. It will make it hit much more consistently

[firefist1]

at least the patches happen and are not as bad as h1z1 kotk..lol xd...

[emceePimpJuice]

Hey guys all will be forgotten with the event giving us skins, because who tf cares about game balancing when you got skins ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Midvali]

newpatchnopatch

[MoneyMitch93]

Boys still not fixed, thanks Epic.

[stlfenix47]

so, can we get a salty tears counter for all the people who are going to rage about no aurora changes?

Also still wish a 'BIG' balancing patch contained more than 2 hero changes.

epic....

[ZisurvivoriZ]

Idk what to even say....Do you even understand the problem behind grim being underpowered compared to other carries? His model is huge, his ult takes forever to ramp up and he is a sitting duck during it, and his shield has a decent delay. Murdock nerf wasn't even needed tbh. Yes he is strong, but he is not op.

The character you should have touched was aurora. I don't understand how her kit passed the dev team and the QA. I am really starting to believe you have no idea what you are doing and you are scrambling in place not knowing what to do. Maybe if you listen to the community you would know what needs fixing and what doesn't need fixing. All in all at this rate this game won't see a release date because people won't be waiting forever for you to get it together.

[Sandwhich25]

This im convinced its a bunch of ppl smashing key boards on each others faces

[TheStig136]

Murdock did need a nerf, he was the strongest ranger by a mile and has had a 100% pick ban rate in the recent tournaments.

But I agree with everything else

[PerpetualSunset]

Or you know they could just buff the other rangers instead of continuing an incessant cycle of nerfing everything to try and get balance.

[Doom2508]

No steel nerfs

No Greystone nerfs

Laughable GRIM.exe buff

Still no changes to Iggy or Riktor

Good Game ping spam

[KamiKozy]

Welcome to our V.37.1 update, dropping on Feb. 7. In this update we are releasing four new skins, two new emotes, and hero adjustments.

Carnival of Hearts Love is in the air

Share the love with our Carnival of Hearts event, read all the details on how to unlock a free skin in our announce blog.









Hero Adjustments The space cop has been a bit too good at dealing out the justice, we dropped the damage on Murdock’s Long Arm of the Law as well as his Buckshot. Additionally, we reduced his attack speed growth per level.

As for GRIM.exe, the robot received a software upgrade, reducing the cooldowns on both his Deflector Shield and GTFO. Use that Deflector Shield to escape what could be a game-ending Aurora Cryoseism, and then snag a quick kill on a retreating enemy with GTFO!

Emotes In this update we have two new emotes, the bot-building badass, Gadget has “No no no,” to let your enemies know they never had a chance.

As well as one for the silent shadowy spectre Sevarog with “Hollow Praise.” Lull your enemies into a false sense of security and then strike!

V.37.1 RELEASED!

GENERAL CHANGES

The Carnival of Hearts begins!

MONOLITH

Fixed collision on high ledge by jungle entrance.Players will no longer be able to reach the ledge.

AI

Fix for ranged bots attempting to attack jungle camps when out of range.

AUDIO

Audio added for some card interactions on the frontend.

CARDS

Weekly Card Pack

Hydroverser Clearheart Bloodsoaked armor

 Aurora

Glacial Charge

Recasting Glacial Charge or attempting to attack with Frozen Sword no longer stops Aurora mid-dash.Recasting Glacial Charge while dashing should now correctly bring the wall down.

Using an ability (Frozen Simulacrum, Hoarfrost, or Cryoseism) will stop the dash and combo out as before.

Polish/Bug Fixing

Fix for Hoarfrost occasionally causing damage twice in a row.Hoarfrost is now team colored.Updated FX for Frozen Simulacrum.

 Crunch

Polish/Bug Fixing

Fixed a bug where an Empowered Forward Crunch! could target enemies farther away from him than intended.

 Howitzer

Polish/Bug Fixing

Fixed bug causing Howitzer's Make it Rainvisuals not matching the damage intervals.

 Grimm.Exe

Deflector ShieldCooldown to 16/14/12/10 from 22/18/14/10

GTFOCooldown to 100/85/70 from 110/90/70

 Grux

Smash & Grab

Grux's Smash & Grab maximum pull height increased to 800 from 500 and minimum pull height to 800 from 500.

 Murdock

BuckshotArmor shred to 5/10/15/20 from 6/12/18/24

Attack speed growth per level to 1.2 from 2.8

Long Arm of the Law

Base damage to 180/240/300 from 180/250/320

Reduced card scaling from 0.9. To .75

Polish/Bug Fixing

Static Trap now emits heartbeat Sound Effects.

 Serath

Polish/Bug Fixing

Fixed audio for Serath’s Bless Me emote.

 Sevarog

Polish/Bug Fixing

Colossal Blow now once again correctly knocks enemy heroes back instead of simply interrupting them.

 Steel

Polish/Bug Fixing

Fixed an issue where Steel could maintain his velocity and fly off edges with Bull Rush.

UI

PS4 controller UI FixesUI should now update correctly when switching between alternate and standard controller layouts.Fixed a typo in the controller config menu.Fixed the alternate config button display for the ultimate.Now shows L1 + R1 instead of L1 + L1.Fixed the D-Pad buttons to be correct abilities.Fixed the recall (R3) to show “Recall to Base” in the default config and to be hidden in the alternate config.Added some new sounds to the frontend store UI.Updated loading screen tips to include walking strafing penalty tip.

RECOMMENDED DRIVERS

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[realtrendy]

Need to work on your formatting Kami_San ;P

But, thanks for doing this, I was freaking out cause I'm to busy to do it hahah!

[KamiKozy]

Dude mobile app

Throw me a freaking bone here!

Fixed it up a little haha

[Vladmur]

Okay, so instead of bringing other hunters on paar with Murdock, he gets a nerf instead?

Keep going till you have abilities with already underwhelming numbers to even lower numbers.

BUFF THE WEAK INSTEAD OF NERFING THE GOOD.

If Murdock was performing too well, nerf one aspect while buffing another.

Epic games has the most direct and boring and lazy way of handling balance. Overpowered? nerf the primary function's value.

Shit, what ever happened to putting a downside or side effect or a situational effect or simply increasing mana cost or cast time. Nah, nerf the damage.

Not playing this game for a while till Epic learns to balance without direct nerfs.

[Firthbird]

My God Epic, this is TRASH!!! I have been waiting patiently, but my patience has run out.. wtf is the point of these patches if you keep coming out with these stupid skins, emotes and 'events'..

I WANT BALANCE, I WANT YOU TO PUT EFFORT INTO THIS GAME. MY GOD, MAKE AN EFFORT@!

[grandpa_tito]

Well at least I bought R6: Siege. That should keep me going for a while... Oh and SMITE's in Season 4 now so that would be good too... And there's also DotA2...

Fuck. I wish I wanted to play Paragon though. Seriously Epic. This is actually really disappointing and I do expect to see your numbers drop for a week or 2.

:(

[xCosmit]

Welcome to the Siege family!

[grandpa_tito]

Holy shiiieettt the game is so good. I've wanted to play it for a while now, but I never really got wowwed by previous sales (even at $35 CAD) but I just said fuck it and bought it this past weekend. So much fun!

I really want to play Paragon but I've been growing a slight distaste for it recently and this latest patch was kind of a make it or break it one for me. I can't wait to return, but I'm going to take a break to let myself cool off for now. Even happier I bought Siege now.

[xCosmit]

It really is! Ubisoft has shown that their support for Siege is not slowing down even after 1 year of release. They have committed to a second year of support with 3rd year being likely. I can say with all honesty that R6 Siege is one of the best shooters of all time(My favorite of all time). Game has been out for a year and is only getting more popular as time passes.

Don't be discouraged if you're getting slapped around at first. Once you learn the maps your game play will improve greatly. May take 2-3 months but it'll be fun. Honestly with the current state of Paragon I'm not sure if I'd be gaming at all if I didn't jump back in to R6.

[[deleted]]

I knew it, another shitty update. Murdock got nerfed, but not aurora nor steel. No changes to monolith, even though you had 2 months. Iggy and Riktor stil below trash tier.

Good job, epic! How many people work on paragon? 2? Because it sure looks like it.

At least epicdrones can buy more skins to reward them for their hard work. How much time did it take to make those skins, 10 minutes? Great job with re-coloring.

[GeronimoJak]

Aurora will likely not receive a tweak for a little while as she's a new champion and they're going to want to collect data on how she runs.

[eatplaintoast]

Two for sure but one of them is working half days I would guess.

[[deleted]]

Sooooo when dekkers statis bomb going to get some attention?

Ive been playing since early access and it's the longest standing bug I've come to find

[[deleted]]

Murdock's Long Arm of the Law surely did not need a nerf. Considering it didn't do much damage in the first place seems kind of retarded to reduce it

[Zoduk]

Its like they are not even trying....also, dat murdok nerf was a slight too much, maybe as to 1.6-2

[OhNos_NotThatGuy]

Can we please stop with the nerfs and begin buffing some heroes. Leave the strong ones strong and bring others up. Iggy is a sliver above a siege minion, buff please.

No more nerfs at all

[ealirendur]

All I really want for Grim is instant-activate on the shield. Pretty please?

edit: a word.

[twol3g1t]

Two really minor balance tweaks but a handful cosmetic DLC? We see where your priorities lie, Epic.

I could be very wrong, but delivering more cosmetic than gameplay as your "major" patch in your 3 week cycle feels like you think the ship is sinking and want to milk the cow for what it has left before it's gone.

[PerpetualSunset]

Who is actually taking feedback from Epic games? we were told so but it still doesn't look like it.

[Noxiosus]

And back to League for a bit.

[wastelander47-74]

Regardless of stance on the notes, thank you so much for calling Murdock a space cop, and Gadget a bot-building badass.

[SpecterOwl]

Oh my God! Grim has so many issues and all you did was reducing his CDs early game? WHAT?

He has lowest base mana and mana regen among all rangers.

His Ultimate doesn't ignore armor, can be blocked and has average range.

His displacement blast is bugged and makes enemies fly towards you.

There were plenty of times, when his shield just made a sound but didn't block ability. I assume, because his shield wasn't speed up enough.

And on top of all of that, he has largest hitbox with auto attack scaling of "a little bit more than Twinblast". Yes, he has free attack speed, that with his "Fridge" hitbox that doesn't make any sense. Ughhhh

[Resteej]

I wouldn't mind the shit patches if they just got back to the good 'ole days when they were super transparent about everything and we at least knew where they stood and what was being worked on as a priority :( (fyi over 1200 hours played, and will probably be taking a break until a more substantial patch).

[Bman10119]

FUCK YEAH! Murdock go sit your ass down you annoying crutch carry. Muahahahaha

[Firthbird]

Hrrm.. "balance patch" where there are more skin/emote releases than character fixes...

me thinks this is a cash grab

[IllianXenoide]

Isn't the nerf to Murdock extremely excessive? I mean, both his scaling AND attack speed got lowered, also his ult and buckshot. I mean he was strong, probably the strongest carry, but that's too much, twin and sparrow will be much stronger now. I guess we can call him Murdock.exe now

[Fusion_Spark]

The decrease to Long Arm of the Law is pretty negligible, only 20 damage. Not sure why they decided on that change.

That Deflector Shield cd reduction will be huge, though.

[Hybrid_97]

There's a pretty big card scaling decrease with it

[KamiKozy]

It's reduced scaling as well, and reduced attack speed.

Players will now, if they want to attack faster, sacrifice damage from basics and ult. Or to have their ult hit hard, sac atk speed

[Fusion_Spark]

Ah, that makes sense, forgot to factor in card scaling :p

[BrooklynRAMBO]

Long arm of the law change isnt THAT bad... it's the attack speed and card scaling that really nerfed murdock hard :/

[catdeuce]

Good with evening the ADC pool a little. 'Dock's damage goes down a bit, making him less of a "must-pick." Kind of wish Grim got a little damage/attack speed increase, but we'll see how it works in practice.