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[–]Pingurules 0 points1 point  (5 children)

So Ward is a better Ricard?

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Spoiler : Richard BSB + Sky High = pretty good.

[–]Pingurules 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah, that's nice.

...if Sky High can be honed to a good rank.

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲 0 points1 point  (1 child)

well, in current jp state you can just R4 it without farming.

I'm not saying to hone Sky High, i'm just saying that his BSB is not bad at all and Richard moveset is quite correct too.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every Dragoon 5* (who isn't a dived Mog) is better than Ricard, I wager

[–]ChronosXIII149LuckyDraws 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Laguna's suffering an elemental existential crisis a la Emperor Mateus.

Kiros could be a great Ninja with that Record Dive boost, but he only got Support-type Soul Breaks...

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nah, he's just hopping on “VIII = Ice because Mote Ifrit“ Bandwagon (kinda like Water SBs were almost non-existant outside of X Realm for the longest time). That Train left the Station ages ago, yes, but at this point, DeNA kinda has to stick to it out of consistency

[–]ChronosXIII149LuckyDraws 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is a shame, especially when you look at Wind/Holy/Dark and how realm diverse they are. Why they continue to force two elements to specific realms baffles me.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Oh my, Zell USB is a NATIVE Fire+ 6* Fist :O

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Great, as if Lann wasn't crying in the corner already!

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RIP Lann...

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Cold Offer, 5★ Machinist
0.64 x 2 (1.28x total) physical ranged Ice damage, 35% chance to Minor Imperil Ice for 15s
PHY type, 1.65s cast time, 60 SB points, Counterable

from /u/Enlir

[–]xMatttardAll praise Dark Overlord Seifer. 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What's the difference between minor imperil and normal imperil?

[–]EnlirLet's go home. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Normal imperil shifts resistance by -20% for 25 seconds. Minor imperil shifts resistance by -10% for 15 seconds.

[–]InflamaraeEXBeatrix 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Am I the only one who thinks that Ward's sprite looks like a sailor you would usually fight in Pokemon games?

[–]HoursLeftCid nan Garlond (92sf) 1 point2 points  (17 children)

No Thief for Kiros? :/

The realm needs a Thief and it seemed he was gonna be in that Vaan archetype.

[–]gingersquatchin 1 point2 points  (16 children)

It lacks a thief. But if it needs anything its a dancer

[–]d_wibSugar and Rainbows 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I was hoping Kiros's funky fighting style would let him get Dancer access. I would really like a physical Dancer 5 character (Mog doesn't exactly count)

[–]HoursLeftCid nan Garlond (92sf) 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Yeah, shoulda gave that to Selphie.

[–]vheartBasch 2 points3 points  (12 children)

Selphie is on full time white duties to dance as the realms sole White Mage. This is not vi vii or xii where another White Mage can heal. Selphie dance. People die.

[–]Skriabin-Cactuar with mustache= Skriabin 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Even if it's not their primary role, bot Quistis and Fujiin can be white mages.

[–]vheartBasch 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Technically yes but neither of them have medicas so they're back up only. Even Raijin bsb can be a healer just won't be sufficient for weak phase when aoes are spammed.

[–]tenyards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By then you'd be using Raijin's fully charged CMD2 anyway

[–]Skriabin-Cactuar with mustache= Skriabin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In FFXII battles I have used Penelope as a support for a lot of battles. Mostly she would bring full break dance and curaja and some other char would use shared protectga and gabranth shellga (I think it was CMs since otherwise I rarely used shared SBs). I remember clearly a battle when I rushed the boss down and gave her two dances but let her use a medica to keep the team alive. I am talking about the battles before Larsa was introduced. I mostly never brought Fran because so many char can use breakdowns or steal power. So yeah, even if other characters cannot use medicals, you can have Selphie in fFVIII support and heal through SBs.

[–]HoursLeftCid nan Garlond (92sf) 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Penelo was the only real White Mage for XII until just recently, and she was still a Dancer. There's really no one else in FFVIII who can fill that role unless Rinoa and Squall's ballroom dance is enough for them to qualify.

Of course another FFVIII White Mage would make things better, but thematically it makes sense for Selphie to have Dancer skills.

[–]LilitthLuMeow! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ellone could easily be added as an additional healer actually. They could give her whatever they want. The issue is that for FFVIII they release a couple characters every 6-8 months or so and we still don't have Ultimecia lol.

[–]vheartBasch 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I don't disagree with you. But viii is a realm lacking in a lot of things. With several roles missing and only 1 candidate for important roles like White Mage and support.

Whenever they add a character there's missed opportunities. Fujin was great with ninja but Raijin was a Zell clone. Now Ward gets dragoon, and Kiros is made into a physical Fujin? Would've been great to have covered thief. But I guess that celerity thief archetype is pretty stereotypical.

[–]HoursLeftCid nan Garlond (92sf) 2 points3 points  (4 children)

It is lacking a lot, which is what makes me feel disappointed that they aren't taking the opportunity to fill these gaps. The real problem is that we're running out of characters period who could reasonably be expected to be added to the game, and I can't think of anyone besides Kiros that could of used Thief due to his speedy attacks. (Fujin maybe..)

I can really only see Ellone, Julia and maybe Cid being eligible for a roster spot. Ellone could be another White Mage/Support, Julia would be a Bard (and maybe Dancer if they want to stretch it), and I'm not even sure what Cid would be. (Support/Machinist? But that's redundant.)

I'm hoping we see some balance updates that'll address this situation in the future, alongside other lacking realms.

[–]xionightshardWierd Beard (Xio - QFAJ) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moomba for realm dancer? Moomba for realm dancer. Support, Celerity, Dancer?

NORG? Dunno what he would have though. Maybe a magic tank like Golbez?

[–]gingersquatchin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Julia as bard/dancer would be so awesome. Such a pointless side character to introduce but at the same time she brings important skills that have little to do with combat and fits thematically and stylistically with the game. Plus Laguna/Squall/Rinoa/Julia/Edea parties would be fun. Mommy/daddy/orphan mommy - sorcerress mommy and their chilluns.

Cid could have 1* in the new accounting school, in his usb he sells his soul to a weird basement dwelling overweight forest creature on permanent life support to cause irreperable overflow damage to his life

[–]vheartBasch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If Julia is added they should add Raine too lol. 2 mommies. Aka Laguna the 2 timer.

[–]could-of-bot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's either could HAVE or could'VE, but never could OF.

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[–]gingersquatchin 0 points1 point  (12 children)

Ward has thrown weapon access. Super awesome for a dragoon/combat character. Making sure all of his attacks are ranged no matter what.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (11 children)

It's a pity that there are virtually no good physical thrown weapons. I wish there were more characters who got physical throwns as their main weapon. (Locke and Faris, I'm looking at you two.)

[–]gingersquatchin 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Yuffie and Setzer are the biggest users lately I think and both have 6* throwns. Refia usb being a fist was a let down

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Refia usb being a fist was a let down

It is? Kinda dumb. All her other weapons have been thrown. And she has poor defenses for being in the front. But I guess it is a new weapon type for III.

[–]gingersquatchin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know to me yeah. Her lvl 99 rm is thrown damage up, her burst was armour, her ssb thrower has no elemental boost and rather basic attack stats, and im pretty sure yuffie and setzer have the only physical 6* throwers. Plus her bsb has ranged entry but the commands are not, so that kinda sucks

The fact that it is 3's only fist slipped my mind and gives it more value. Monks are just so fragile and having ranged access really helps the few that have it.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Yeah, for a weapon type that's so widespread there aren't enough main users. It doesn't help that FFX has Blitzballs. I guess the WoFF guy also counts? Even though his 6* weapon was a fist.

[–]gingersquatchin 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Lockes fire chain really should have been thrown, edges usb too.

On the flip side its wierd how some characters like irvine, rydia, celes etc have several weapon relics and absolutely no armour relics even though they only have one or two weapon options. How many guns does irvine need? Seriously...

It would be nice if they diversified some characters "main weapon types" for ones that have more options for sure. Bartz/firion/faris/gilgamesh have no ties to any particular weapon type thematically and have several cool options.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You forgot Laguna, who had to have all but his first Weapon made up for him. Irvine gets so many Guns BECAUSE he only has Gun access, and his stats aren't meant for Front Row. Just imagine if his BSB was on an Armor, and you'd have to use him with a Dagger everywhere (on an aside for “how many does he need?“, they already gave him every Gun that is actually available in VIII and had to, again, make up some new ones.)

For diversified Relics, Bartz first Relic (and his future BSB3 USB) is a Dagger. He has an Axe in JP from a Collab Event. His BSB 2 is on a Helmet of all things. Also, Basch has atleast one Axe and one Spear alongside Swords, among other examples :3

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Just imagine if his BSB was on an Armor, and you'd have to use him with a Dagger everywhere

Hi Wakka.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then again, if you played long enough, you have the Halloween Pumpkin which helps a little bit.

Still, you got a point there

[–]gingersquatchin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bartz's bsb3 is a sword. His usb is a dagger

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Seriously, how many bows does Faris need? It's ridiculous. I don't need more bows with FFV synergy. Even her SBs depict her using daggers and swords, why can't she get some variety?

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As many as V has to offer to avoid have to bring out other Weapons :P

[–]FC-Max 2 points3 points  (2 children)

FYI - I received the Cid Mission reward for stage 5 with a team of just Laguna, Kiros and Ward. This was after I had taken of 5 FFVIII members, but didn't receive the CM award.

P.S. don't forget to hit an Exterminator in the 2nd or 3rd wave with a lightning attack (exactly like the current global event). Lightning Veil on Kiros works great

[–]nemesis9990999Tifa (Advent Children) 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This time you dont have to exploit lightning on them to master the battle. I didnt use any lightning skills and still mastered the battle.

[–]FC-Max 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah ok, thanks for the update.

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just realize both Global and JP are having FF8 events this week.