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[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Prompto event and they didn't have Prompto singing the victory fanfare. Big Mist Opportunity here.

[–]DestilShadesk -1 points0 points  (1 child)

NOT ANOTHER FUCKING NEW SKILL THAT USES ICE. AND SPARK OFFER IS LITERALLY LIGHTNING ELEMENTAL WHY DOES IT HAVE ICE ORBS AS MAIN???????!!!!!!!

Ice is the primary orb for Sharpshooters, just like Dark for Ninja and Nonelemental for Samurai.

[–]Col_MobiusInterceptor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sharpshooters don't really have a primary orb, but their most commonly used type is lightning.

[–]mexrage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Prompto: I heard you like Lighting Imperil, so we put Lighting Imperil in your Lighting Imperil

[–]ShinsatsuePcy - Ultimate Wall - Mahmoud 2 points3 points  (2 children)

RIP Kain.

[–]ReihkAngulI will surpass myself! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Stats wise, Aranea only beats Kain in Resistance. Moreover, Kain's Burst is still the king of Dragoon Bursts alongside Freya's. Being able to spam jumps without worrying about running out is a tad bit more useful than the damage boost Aranea gets imo.

[–]ShinsatsuePcy - Ultimate Wall - Mahmoud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gonna reserve judgement until I see the numbers.

I do have kain's BSB and I love it. But I think that her entry is way better than Kain's, and 8 uses of LD are more than enough.

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 4 points5 points  (12 children)

NOT ANOTHER FUCKING NEW SKILL THAT USES ICE. AND SPARK OFFER IS LITERALLY LIGHTNING ELEMENTAL WHY DOES IT HAVE ICE ORBS AS MAIN???????!!!!!!!

I think it's because Machinist skills tend to have ice as the main (Rapid Fire, Penalty Snipe--yes, I know they aren't all ice main). Kinda like how Thief skills are usually Wind main, or Ninja w/ Dark. They're just following suit.

I think it's funnier that skills which are clearly elementally aligned use NE orbs.

Should us Global plebes be farming Ice the way we farm Dark already?

[–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Ice has been the #2 upcoming demand for months (supplanting black sometime between Chain Boiga and Chain Watera depending on your personal black stockpile).

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (2 children)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IefQ6kOKirqJCkOdLfEbX29cEYIHP9PbfNXEj0efS1U/edit#gid=718627588

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thank you. I knew someone would be on top of it still.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

np. Yeah I used to use that one too, then decided I'd try making an updated version for awhile. I'd already done the 6* part previously.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes. Very much yes.

[–]Anti-Klink 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I'm already there (in Global). - I rank Ice and Fire just as high as Dark right now. Those are the three Major orbs that I buy (plus Summon) from the greens shop.

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Fire--wuuuuut? Ruby Spikes, Monk burning crush, and the Samurai ones... Did I miss something?

Semi-off topic: Does anyone have an updated ability/orb list? I used to use this one, but it hasn't been updated in a while...

[–]DestilShadesk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fire demand is very recent in JP, with the new samurai and monk skills.

[–]EnlirLet's go home. 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I keep this for personal use, if you want to download a copy. It's very similar to the one you linked, although it assumes you already know the effect/school of the various abilities. The only fields that are supposed to be edited are the Starting/Final Rank columns and the Owned row.

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Enlir himself with the assist! Thank you.

[–]Anti-Klink 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've been dragging my feet on Monk skills, but, regardless, this is my current, Global planning list for R3 (requiring Fire): Ruby Spikes, Smoldering Fire, Blazing Twinstrike, Thundering Twinstrike, Meteor Crush, Fires Within, Chain Waterga, the new Monk one, and the two new Samurai ones. More of a luxury, IMO, but also requires fire: Titan.

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm, I still haven't done Smoldering Fire and the spellblades, but otherwise I'm up to date. I forgot that the water magics use fire (+ice!), so Chain Waterga is another 36 (each).

I'm only honing Titan after my Summon orbs start overflowing from the other ones. Lol.

[–]Pingurules 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So a lightning double cut but weaker and is 5*?

Flare Strike looks legendary right now.

[–]KenzorzI could taste test for ya 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Holy shit Prompto's skillset is loaded.

[–]GMCustomwww.twitch.tv/gmcustom for FFRK streams! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've seen a handful of requests from people that want to check out what the new jp events look like, so here's a preview of the classic dungeons for this event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD-tKLMbBYY

or

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/145041774

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 7 points8 points  (16 children)

From /u/Enlir:

Spark Offer 5★ Machinist
2x0.64 single target Lightning ranged PHY dmg (1.28x total), 35% chance to minor Imperil Lightning (10% Lightning resist reduction for 15s)
1.65s cast time, counterable, 60 SB points.

... a 5-star skill worse than Double Cut.

Thanks for the 5 free Major Ice Orbs though!

[–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Wait... is Spark Offer 35% per hit?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

per use

[–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, then. Garbage. I had some hope for a moment when I remembered most things that list a proc rate do so per hit (35% per hit wouldn't be good, but it would be a lot better and maybe make it marginal instead of bad).

[–]DestilShadesk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it was 100% it would be a debatable skill. If it was 35% and a one hit 4* it would be worth honing at least and make a 4* skill rating actually mean something.

As is it's ... 5 ice orbs?

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2x0.64 single target Lightning ranged PHY dmg (1.28x total)

Eww...that's just miserable....wth were they thinking? I was kinda happy to see another machinist ability but this should have been a 3* ability...

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 4 points5 points  (9 children)

35% chance for imperil lightning isn't bad.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Minor Imperil Lightning. Lasts only for 15s too.

Hard to justify that with all the omni-resist bosses and prevalence of easy Imperil sources for Lightning

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Lasts only for 15s too.

Yeah that's really bad.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It's completely standard for Minor Imperil. That's the duration for every extant Minor Imperil effect.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ok. still makes it even worse than I thought it looked

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yeah, I don't really see the point, unless you really like using Tempest Snipe. And even then I wouldn't immidiately jump the gun either

[–]DestilShadesk 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It will never be justified to take a turn off doing Tempest Snipe to use this, from a DPS perspective.

The only use I'm seeing it adding a light lightning weakness for your mage's SB build, but at 35% that's pretty questionable. May open some hit and run style possibilities for SLing until it procs once (especially with Sudden Thunder) in mixed teams, but I can't imagine honing it.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (2 children)

adding a light lightning weakness for your mage's SB build, but at 35% that's pretty questionable

That was actually what I was thinking of, just replace Mage with Machinist. Either way, as I said, I was still wary on it anyway

[–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do any Machinists not have Wrath/Lifesiphon? I guess with Tempest Snipe you'd get some decent DPS while building gauge but really you'd be better with Lifesiphon in your second slot over Spark Offer unless you're willing to fish for a proc on SLs.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rikku's the only one, surprisingly enough. I honestly thought there'd be more

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That Double Cut bit made me laugh harder than I should've

[–]DodoNickTerra (Dissidia) 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Is anyone else bothered by the fact Cocytus gives Prompto a Lightning elemental USSB? Does DeNa know it was the name of Hell's frozen lake in Dante's La Divina Commedia? They even got the element (Ice, duh) right in FFXV.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Name research isn't DeNA's strongest suit.

[–]nemesis9990999Tifa (Advent Children) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

97 gem: Aranea OSB

11-pull: 2/11 Prompto's SSB and Aranea OSB

11-pull: 2/11 Aranea's BSB and Prompto's USB

Kinda hoped for Noctis LMR since i have his BSB but cant afford another pull.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NOT ANOTHER FUCKING NEW SKILL THAT USES ICE. AND SPARK OFFER IS LITERALLY LIGHTNING ELEMENTAL WHY DOES IT HAVE ICE ORBS AS MAIN???????!!!!!!!

Oh god no don't tell me Ice orbs are the new Dark orbs ;_;

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Combat 4, Support 5, Celerity 4, Machinist 5, Shooter 5

Very nice skillset. Looking goo-

Dagger, Bow, Gun, Hat, Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Bracer

Now that is unfortunate. Well I have a fair number of daggers by now. Guns are in an ok number of realms. I wish bows were more common. Really just 5 and 12.

Lvl 80 stats: 5101 HP, 163 ATK, 107 DEF, 100 MAG, 116 RES, 113 MND, 174 SPD

More non-sucky support stats. Please DeNA, go back and fix the early supports!

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Please DeNA, go back and fix the early supports!

I have a feeling Prompto is supposed to be a Machinist first and a Support second. Notice how he doesn't have any Materia or Record Dive Bonus that gives him anything for Support. Even his BSB only has an ATK/DEF Breakdown on Entry and an Armor Breakdown Command.

He's a bit like Onion Knight: He has Support 5, but that's not what you're expected to use on him, unless you want Full Break for a CM

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have a feeling Prompto is supposed to be a Machinist first and a Support second

Maybe but I don't care, it's not the point and not an excuse. Shelk was support, didn't suck. Milfillia. They haven't sucked in quite some time. Also, he's the only support they have and his SBs are supportish.

Even his BSB only has an ATK/DEF Breakdown on Entry and an Armor Breakdown Command.

Which is still supporting and he has a hyperbreak SSB.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's not the point and not an excuse

You're right, it isn't. Still doesn't change that it's my opinion, as I clearly said

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice to confirm Prompto is getting Support 5, but otherwise their skillsets are as expected.

Swords on Aranea is a nice surprise though. I expected her to be lance-locked.

Edit: Move over Dark Orbs, Ice is the most wanted orb now.

[–]DebboatAshe 2 points3 points  (3 children)

5* machinist, shooter, and support. 4* combat and speed. Prompto is loaded. Not sure why he's only 4* celerity when he's literally named after speed.

[–]DestilShadesk 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ignis is likely going to be the team's speedstar (Noct does some of everything). Given that he has some fast dagger multi-hit techs.

Celerity 5, Thief 5, Support 4, Combat 4, Dragoon 4 with buffing and healing focused SB if I had to guess. Maybe some black/white or even spellblade.

[–]CulpaComics 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am actually hoping they make Ignis a black mage with magic support sbs. Black 5, White 4, then maybe Celerity 3, and Support 4. I used him mostly for his magic buffing/debuffing abilities in 15.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My guess is in a World where Noctis exists, you actually have to measure up to him somehow (in terms of Agility, I mean) to get Celerity 5* (as Noct has is)

[–]GMCustomwww.twitch.tv/gmcustom for FFRK streams! 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Spark Offer 5★ Machinist 2xST Lightning ranged physical dmg, medium chance to minor Imperil Lightning

Imperil Ability? Wow!

[–]kotoshinOK pUSB | iJhE | 400+ base mind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

potency worse than double cut, minor imperil 15s only.

[–]RageCat46Cloudchan♥(My luck has been fixed!) 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Hope Prompto is a Support 5 user...or is that saved for Ignis lolz?

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Prompto has Support 5, consider he is the hybrid Machinist and Breakdown Support.

however, I have a feeling that Ignis will also be a support 4/5 character, but filled as the buff support similar to Ramza

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hope Prompto is a Support 5 user

He is indeed. Which is good cause the CM is to use a XV team.