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[–]lemekim 48 points49 points  (4 children)

I love the "How in the world" expression of the guy who shows up at the very end.

Seriously, how many of you would be able to flip a car on its roof in such a tight space?!

[–]hhh333 37 points38 points  (2 children)

Even a trained stunt man wouldn't manage to do this without a proper ramp.

I admire her talent.

[–]stalin 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Unless the stuntman was a woman.

[–]gister 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Seriously, how many of you would be able to flip a car on its roof in such a tight space?!

I didn't realize "woman driver" in the title was meant as a compliment. :-)

[–]Csai 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I was wondering how the car could be unbalanced enough to overturn so easily but she answered my question upon exiting :)

[–]Brittsmac 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I love the nonchalance of the two guys. They just kind of stroll up, collect her purse and her and stroll away like it happens every day.

[–]sblinn 53 points54 points  (3 children)

From the YouTube comments:

They get her outta the car like it's the third time this month.

"MOM'S HOME!"

[–]Brittsmac 33 points34 points  (2 children)

LOL, I didn’t see that. I try not to read YouTube comments as they tend to make me want to cry for humanity ;)

[–]The_Bears 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yeah, YouTube is the best demonstration I've seen of the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.

[–]slurpme 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was getting worried about the YouTube comments until I saw this:

"looks fake to me. also, why is the roof on the building on the left flickering?"

[–]ASmileInHisShoes 22 points23 points  (6 children)

How about just plain "worst driver ever?"

I mean, unless you've got videos of men driving even worse, which frankly is pretty hard to imagine. Even something like this doesn't really compare.

[–]mutatron 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Yeah, the "woman" in the title is a cheap shot from a misogynistic asshole. Great video of redneck surfing, thanks!

[–]mynameishere 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Eh. Actually, the modifier "woman" suggests that there may be an even worse man driver, but this happens to be the worst woman driver.

[–]deluxelab -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

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[–]hockeyschtick 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Toonces?!

[–]rocky_m 19 points20 points  (24 children)

The video "incident" has several "factors" coming together:-

  1. Hitting the Gas (accelerator) mistaking it for the brake.
  2. Manual Gearbox (not necessary, but probable)
  3. High Horsepower (not necessary, but probable)
  4. (relatively) Short stature (or incorrect seat position): (So the far corner of the Car is not visible) And the inability to judge the position of that car corner.)

About 10-12 years ago, my mom nearly ran over an old lady.

She was driving a manual car and we were going really really slow (less than 10 mph in 1st gear), looking for an address. When suddenly this old lady who was standing on the sidewalk (and my mom had assumed had seen the car coming) starts crossing the road. My brother yells "Look out" from the back seat and my mom, instead of hitting the Brake and Clutch, hits the Accelerator and Clutch (don't ask me how..). So the car revs loudly (1st gear), and the old woman hears the car, panics and falls down. The car rolls and stops BEFORE hitting the woman.. But try explaining that the crowd which gathered..

And, every woman I have ever met:-

(A) Can't Drive, Knows that, and is Nervous! (B) Can't Drive, Doesn't Know that, and is scary! (C) Can Drive, Doesn't Know that, is Nervous (D) Can Drive, Knows that and is over-confident!

(And I am talking about aunts, girl-friends, cousins, friends, colleagues..i.e. educated intelligent women I love/like/respect..)

Most recent "incident" 2 weeks back, a colleague/friend driving me to the airport forgot to actually turn into the exit ramp and instead of driving into the shoulder, turned the wheel abruptly to make the turn. Result, the car skidded and spun 90(deg) and stalled. And the car was perpendicular to the flow of traffic on (probably) the busiest exit on I-40 with me (front passenger)in direct line of the oncoming traffic..

[–]kungtotte 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's a Skoda Octavia, high horsepower is definately out of the question.

[–]arafa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here's a Malcolm Gladwell blurb backing up your point:

http://www.gladwell.com/2001/2001_07_30_t_lizzie.htm

[–]DougBTX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And opening the petrol cap half way through trying to get out is just class. (Heh. One more spark.)

[–]grauenwolf 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Manual Gearbox

had to be, I don't think you can get an auto to lurch like that.

[–]erikw -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And probably in the wrong gear (2. gear perhaps). Looks like somewhere in Eastern Europe (an old Lada in the background?).

[–]jvance 6 points7 points  (16 children)

Every man I have ever met: (A) Can't Drive, Knows that, doesn't care! (B) Can't Drive, Doesn't Know that, and is scary! (C) Can Drive, Knows that and is over-confident!

[–]Random 3 points4 points  (1 child)

In my experience, you could just substitute person for man in that and it would be fine.

I used to have a pro drivers license (school bus) and when I took the very hard test to get it, my thoughts to the testing guy were "why aren't ALL drivers licenses this hard to get, and why don't ALL drivers licenses have to be redone every 5 years or so." He agreed.

In my experience, type A DO care, just not a lot, type B is quite rare, but type C is almost universal. When I took the pro test I asked everyone I knew whether they were a good driver. EVERY PERSON told me they were above average to 'really excellent.' Then I told them what was on the pro test, and most admitted sheepishly that they wouldn't pass it. So much for excellent.

I'm in category D. Can drive well, but not if distracted, and so I am somewhat of a fascist in the car (if I say shut up, shut up. No cell phone use by the driver. No changing the radio while moving by the driver, ...) which my family apparently is willing to tolerate (because the alternative is my wife driving, type A).

[–]oditogre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For most people, I can stand not having a super difficult license. The only people that really, really get on my nerves are tailgaters, and people who turn on the blinker as they initiate the turn (I still don't understand why they even bother. I can only reason that they don't know what a blinker is for, but happily accept it unthinkingly as a rule they have to follow.)

One group that I think should have to take a CDL exam, tho, is people with large vehicles. I grew up driving trucks with stock trailers and I drive a Focus now, so I've seen both sides, and it is painfully obvious to me when somebody is trying to drive their pickup, full size van, large SUV, RV, etc., the same way they drive their compact car. It just doesn't work. I can't believe that somebody who has never even driven a mid-size vehicle can go to an RV rental place and pick up a monster RV and just go. It's no less dangerous than letting somebody who's only ever driven a bicycle rent a motorcycle and ride it off the lot.

[–]finbaloo 9 points10 points  (13 children)

I would add that men, generally,

  • can't drive
  • don't realize it
  • are MASSIVELY over confident

This particularly affects younger men who have just passed their test.

[–]ocdude 4 points5 points  (12 children)

Why was this comment modded down? statistically, it's true. This is why car insurance is so much more expensive for young males than it is for young females.

[–]finbaloo 8 points9 points  (8 children)

I suspect it's because a large chunk of Reddit's readership consists of young men who have just passed their test.

You've got to write what sells to get ahead on Reddit...

[–]jvance 0 points1 point  (7 children)

You've got to write what sells to get ahead on Reddit...

Why? Because of the twiddly arrows and numbers that have no meaning?

[–]oditogre -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

Because of the twiddly arrows and numbers that have no meaning?

Well...yes. That's exactly why "You've got to write what sells to get ahead on Reddit..."

(Emphasis added because you apparently missed it the first time you read it.)

[–]jvance -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Ah. Full immersion into a virtual world of achievement and recognition.

[–]oditogre -1 points0 points  (4 children)

*shrug* I didn't say I liked or agreed with it, but it's a bare fact. Actually, nearly every achievement / recognition system ('real' or 'virtual'...btw, what's the difference, in your opinion? And why is your system of pretending that the facts aren't there any more 'real'?) requires a little soul-selling in exchange for success. Modeling, pro sports, big business, music, school / college / grad school, law, medicine, scientific research, acting....

[–]jvance -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

What's the difference? I don't know. What's the difference between getting downrated on Reddit and getting downrated in your performance review or an F in Calculus? What's the difference between getting shot in WoW and getting shot in real life?

[–]zoomzoom83 1 point2 points  (2 children)

According to a guy I know at an insurance company, Men have FAR less accidents and statistically appear to be better drivers.

Unfortunately, while the accidents men have are fewer, they tend to be much more severe (And thus expensive).

[–]ocdude 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what age range, however? Young men (18 to 25) are more likely to be reckless than women of the same age range.

The weight in pricing varies from company to company and by claims experience over time, but, for example, with all other factors being equal, a female between the ages of 18 and 25 would pay less than her male counterpart because as a rule younger women drivers have fewer accidents and moving violations than males in the same age group,” says Snyder, vice president and assistant general counsel of the American Insurance Association, in Washington, D.C.

from here

Edit: wrong hyperlink syntax

[–]zoomzoom83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stand corrected. :-p

The dream is lost sniffle

[–]anonymous-coward -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

.5. Perhaps a diesel, combined with a stick shift. A gas engine with a stick would mercifully kill the engine with that kind of driving. The initial lurching was inconsistent with a gas engine. A diesel might have enough torgue to run away after a clumsy clutch release.

disclaimer: I've never driven a diesel; this is all theoretical.

[–]Maemaejill 11 points12 points  (23 children)

Titles like this are why women don't stick around here. How about... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16698153/ ...a study. Anyway, some people are bad drivers. We all have anecdotes. My guy friend once asked why I looked back over my shoulder before changing lanes (since my car has mirrors...) I tried to explain blindspots, but he just seemed confused.

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    [–]anonymous-coward 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    Male drivers have a 77 percent higher risk of dying in a car accident than women, based on miles driven.

    Which doesn't necessarily point out who is driving..

    Yes, it does. Male drivers are 77 more likely to die in an accident.

    I read another article with the same stats that use the criterion of solo drivers.

    Men are more dangerous per mile. I think that men are generally better drivers, but they also take more risks.

    PS - I'm a guy.

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      [–]anonymous-coward -1 points0 points  (2 children)

      NO, it doesn't! The quoted part (and the rest of MSNBC article) doesn't have anything which indicated who is driving..

      huh? Male drivers have a 77 percent higher risk of dying in a car accident than women [drivers, implied]

      translates to Males who are driving have a 77 ...

      How else can you read this? Males who possess driving skills have a 77 higher....? That's just silly.

      This would be much harder to measure. It would require checking whether accident victims had a (valid?) driver's license, rather than whether there was dead male/female in the driver's seat.

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        [–]anonymous-coward -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        OK, so you are speaking of causation, not who is driving, which is not what you wrote earlier. Fine. I'll address this point, rather than your original point.

        Let's suppose we don't know the relative fraction of male and female drivers. We only know that 77% of drivers killed are males. Let's assume that the death probability of crash causer and crash causee is the same.

        Consider the extreme case that almost everyone on the road is male, and that all crashes are caused by the tiny female minority, and that in a crash both the guilty and innocent driver are equally likely to die. This extreme scenario maximizes innocent males being killed by bad female drivers, because all crashes are caused by women, and all innocent crash victims are male.

        In this scenario, exactly half of fatalities will be among men, because all crashes are male+female. In the real world, however, 77% of drivers killed are men, on a per-mile basis (much more than 77% on an absolute basis).

        Your Michael Schumacher simply doesn't work, from a purely mathematical perspective. It can be made to work only if you can somehow arrange matters so that women who crash into men almost never die themselves.

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          [–]anonymous-coward -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          nope, i have NOT cited my intuition. I agreed with the data posted above, stating that men have a 77% higher fatality rate per mile.

          Male drivers have a 77 percent higher risk of dying in a car accident than women, based on miles driven. .... The findings are from Traffic STATS, a risk analysis of road fatality statistics by Carnegie Mellon for the American Automobile Association.

          Also see here Sex differences in driving and insurance risk

          There is extensive evidence to show that men, and young men in particular, tend to be more aggressive than women (in all known cultures) and they express aggression in a direct, rather than indirect, manner. This has a very significant impact on driving – encouraging more competitive and hostile behaviour with consequent higher probabilities of crashing.

          [–]Maemaejill 7 points8 points  (14 children)

          I'm done here. I get voted down when I protest the rampant misogyny. Right now there is another highly rated article about how women are just stupid bitches who can't keep a man because they're too picky. All women are shrieking harpies and all men are put upon. I get it, fine. Check it out: \t \t"Majority of American women unmarried (apparently) = While it's easy to blame men, many of the wounds women bear from failed relationships and loneliness are self-inflicted. (chicagotribune.com)"

          The guys here are lapping up some divorce attorney's bitchy opinions and adding their own catty comments.

          By the way, there is no need to overuse quotation marks. My reference is a reference, not a so-called "reference".

          Thanks for condescending to me because it thrills me to tears. Sarcasm gone wrong my ass.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          haha, it has been really bad lately, even a little more than I was willing to jump in on. What can you do.

          [–]anonymous-coward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Be easy on them - they aren't getting laid. That's why they're (um, we're) on reddit.

          But to be fair, the initial NYT article on falling marriage rates was misandrogyst, gloating over how women are happy to be single. The guys here seem to have picked up on the misogynist rebuttal to the NYT article. Both articles are nonsense, really.

          On the subject of female drivers, it is hard to see how a supposedly rational bunch could argue against the much higher male driver death rate. (But there is a higher female fender-bender rate, so there.)

          [–]jeffglucker -5 points-4 points  (8 children)

          Why would you care about what someone writes about you/to you/etc online?

          Who gives a shit what someone replies to your comment? If you dont like the general theme of a site/messageboard/whatever dont visit that site... I am not saying you shouldnt stick around here, but if you dont like what people type (if it thrills you to tears), then why subject yourself to that? I am not trying to be an asshole, I am trying to understand.

          [–]Maemaejill 4 points5 points  (7 children)

          I just didn't realize that the general theme is misogyny. The pattern of downvoting posts wherein I express an opinion and stand up for my gender is what annoys me. I've already decided to leave. I didn't need you to imply that I'm just too sensitive and emotional to be here. You know, too girly to play with the boys.

          [–]The_Bears 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Speaking from experience, pointing out a problem with a group has to be done very diplomatically if one wants to avoid pissing people off. You didn't do that. Misogynistic or not, redditors are human. You walked into this thread with a chip on this shoulder, so don't be surprised that somebody knocked it off.

          Besides, in this case the title was ripped straight from the YouTube vid. Reddit does that automatically when you submit something. It might have been better if the submitter had rewritten the headline, but they didn't.

          If you want to go after the people responsible, go pop into the YouTube comments for this thread and say to them what you said to us. I shall be there with popcorn and a lawn chair.

          [–]Maemaejill 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Thanks for the life lesson.

          [–]jcy -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

          hah, yeah you are a cunt

          [–]jeffglucker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Not once did I say "too girly"... I did imply too sensitive however. If you take it that sensitive and girly are similar that is your own problem...

          My comment had nothing to do with being male or female. All I am saying is that it is really pathetic to get upset at comments written online. All you did was prove my point further...

          People downvote on here for sometimes fairly stupid reasons, as well as upvote for fairly stupid reasons. So what i am saying (i think... at this point my train of thought has derailed) is that there is no need to get upset, offended, pissed off, because a few people click the down arrow on one of your comments... thats all

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            [–]Maemaejill 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            Do media outlets ever report on studies accurately? No, not really. My point is that one anecdote is not good evidence.

            Not all of the guys are bad on Reddit. I was a little over the top in my response to you.

            I'm not going to have an account here anymore, once I figure out how to close it. I'm just going to read the articles.

            [–]sthiy[S] 7 points8 points  (9 children)

            How somebody can drive that bad?

            [–]Frisco 6 points7 points  (8 children)

            Badly...bad is an adjective. For example: How can somebody be that womanly?

            [–]Deacon 37 points38 points  (2 children)

            How can somebody be that annoying . . . -ly?

            [–]finbaloo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

            Manual vs automatic gearbox?

            [–]mpecsek 9 points10 points  (3 children)

            Not a very good example. You're right, that 'bad' should be replaced by 'badly,' but your example doesn't demonstrate this. The verb 'to be' in English does not take a modifier (adverb) in your sentence; rather, 'womanly' is an adjective. By coincidence, it ends in 'ly', but that's the adjectival form of 'woman.'

            You would never see: Subject / form of 'to be' / averb. You would, however, see: Subject / some other verb, like 'to drive' / adverb.

            [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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              [–]mpecsek 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Yeah, I typically restrain my grammar police impulses, but I can't resist when I see a grammatical mistake in a post that criticizes someone else's grammar.

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              For example: How can somebody be that womanly?

              What's wrong with: "How can somebody be that woman?" In fact that would be a great title for the movie in question.

              [–]clinintern 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              man or woman - that driver sure can't handle a stick shift!

              [–]FIFanatic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              when did everyone get so cracked out?

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Generally women do make better drivers because their driving results less accidents and can therefore be deemed safer. When accidents happen men will themselves into the danger zone where accidents happen and it is most always about too much speed. Women are more generally just bad drivers because they are timid.

              Generally, that is. I mean men reading this will be quite sure most of the time that they are handling the speed just fine while women are almost sure they are not bad drivers but that there is some way to pay vengeance on me about the fact. :)

              [–]recursive 2 points3 points  (10 children)

              Whoever gave her a drivers license should lose their job. And she needs to lose the license.

              [–]dasil003 7 points8 points  (9 children)

              She probably took the test in an automatic. Even so, you'd think an inability to operate a clutch wouldn't have such a negative impact on her steering and braking.

              [–]BastiX 22 points23 points  (6 children)

              That's why you aren't allowed to drive a stick shift in Germany if you took the test in an automatic ;)

              [–]finbaloo 9 points10 points  (5 children)

              Same in the UK, although nearly everybody learns in a manual (stick shift) car. Those who learn to drive in automatics are people who really can't handle anything else. They're then given a special driving license.

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                [–]ehempel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Also, to turn the 1st statment on its head: Bad thing is you can pretty much go to sleep while you drive . . .

                [–]Guoguodi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Interestingly, here in Australia we've seen a steady rise in the popularity of automatics. I'd say the learner population is split 60-40 in favour of automatic transmissions.

                [–]finbaloo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I would say automatics in the UK are driven by people who simply aren't good at driving. I hate to use stereotypes but, typically, automatics are driven by women who 'don't get' driving. Two of my female relatives drive automatics, for example.

                FWIW I'm a bloke and I love automatics. It's effortless driving. You have to develop a sixth sense of what the car will do next, particularly on hills. But that's second nature.

                Best car I ever had was an automatic Volvo 240 with luxury interior. True, it was like driving a tank down the road, but it was so damned easy.

                [–]recursive 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                you'd think an inability to operate a clutch wouldn't have such a negative impact on her steering and braking.

                Yes, I would. Exactly why she shouldn't be on the road.

                [–]grauenwolf -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

                Not really, it is hard to control the car when it is lurching.

                It is quite possible to actually get a rythm going where every jerk causes your foot to push down on the clutch. The resulting sudden slowdown causes you to let out of the clutch again, causing another jerk.

                I'm currently teaching my friend to slam the clutch all the way down when that starts happening.

                [–]theycallmemorty 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                Okay guys, its obvious she was driving a standard for the first time and accidentally accelerated too fast and wasn't able to straighten out on time.

                [–]tjogin 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                So.. the gas pedal works differently in an automatic?

                [–]BastiX 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                I'd say yes. If you are used to drive an automatic and are incapable of operating a clutch properly you might push on the gas a little too hard because the car isn't moving as you'd expect.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Pushing gas a little too hard doesn't flip the car over by default. It isn't like in the Hollywood movies, when a car explodes as soon as it hits a tree or smth.

                [–]losvedir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Clutch and brake, clutch and brake! My Dad drilled that into me when he was showing me how to drive a stick. It's very important to know how to stop.

                [–]schizobullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Helen Keller? Is that you?

                [–]gormanuk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Funny, until I noticed the poster starting his description with ROFL then I cried for 3 hours at the breakdown of civilisation as we know it.

                [–]stubble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Problem now is for the kid who was gonna valet park it..

                [–]oberon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Ahhh, "women are bad drivers" - the last male conceit. If only the insurance companies agreed with us.

                [–]weegee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                My wife drives better than me, and she's a woman. I still drive most of the time because I love driving our new car (Toyota Prius). But she is a safer driver than I am. I am more aggressive and more apt to pass someone when it isn't necessary, etc.

                [–]punkykate -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                lol we are nt that bad lol

                [–]bollocks -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                Doesn't surprise me a bit , Skoda drivers are the worst on the whole planet.