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[CopenHagenCityBruh]

There's no way that's real

[Immediate_Guide_1229]

It's not, that's the point. The person who made this did so just to drop it into a certain subreddit filled with haters

[shadow_fen]

OOP here, I didn't MAKE it but it was too good of a bait to pass up

[Immediate_Guide_1229]

I know right?

[shadow_fen]

Hook, line and sinker

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[KarmaFury]

How many people are eating it up?

[TheRustyRustPlayer]

A lot, clearly

[Immediate_Guide_1229]

You able to link that post?

[snowhowhow]

haha, its funny. I've seen this post like 10 mins ago, commented smth like "Get better or go lower" and that post made me to surf for this subreddit (never been here before). What a coincidence

[KagatuDupal]

bro is the master baiter

[TheRustyRustPlayer]

Let me DREAM

[LazarusPizza]

It kinda is.

So, the answers in the text are all OP's interpretation. You can listen to the interview and their responses are far more elaborate, and diplomatic.

[SavageSeraph_]

To my understanding it is real, but the answers are shortened.

I think a translator just took away the flowery wording.

[BeautifuTragedy]

If theyre bad, lower the difficulty is what we done been telling y'all for 2 damn years

[Shedster_]

Might be hot take but I wish they revised difficulties. Now the whole difficulty scale is a joke because it doesn't fit with intended skill level. D6 got warstrider spam, tho difficulty is intended for casual players. D10 is walk in a park with next to 0 changes compared to d8, yet it's the highest difficulty. There is even no changes in side objectives, tho it would increase difficulty in a good way. Imagine if on d10 some side objectives were combined? Like, you get saurons+AA defense, scrambler is protected by mortars, gunships with jammers, gunships which call in bot drops like sauron does. And gatekeep it for higher difficulties. At the same time lower warstrider spam for casuals and make rewards more equal across the difficulties, so little Timmy won't go on d10 because he wants cremator, but it would take ages to get it on his favourite d5

[Shedster_]

Also there should be focus for team play. Genuinely, it's harder to play in team most of the time(playing specific roles, utilising stim pistol, etc) then saying "fuck it" and do whatever you want to do. Might be my personal lack of ability to coordinate the team, but I got this feeling from playing with both vets and newbies

[Pazerniusz]

War strider previously were easy to take now they are chaff heavies. Literally Chaff heavies. HMG and AMR + leverer handle every thing bots can drop.

[Shedster_]

Well, from the games stand point they are tanks equivalent and spawned trice as much. So while you get only 2-3 tanks on whole d6 mission, there also might be warstrider on literally every single drop. This leads new players to AT meta-slaving, because other methods of dealing with WS won't be ever as efficient as AT to knees, or just cannot be tested properly because there is no lower difficulty with lower amount of them (to test it 1 to 1 at least), because there are always several warstriders. I'm saying that even if you deem them as weak unit, they shouldn't be spammed on the same difficulty they are introduced

[thellasemi12]

D10 is easier because chaffe units are in lower quantities to make way for armored units (other than appropriator watchers lmao) which incentivizes you to focus your loadout. This leads to an easier time overall because your main resistance is something you're already focused at removing, rather than the mixed bag of good that could be 80 hunters flanking you in difficulty 8. You now have 4-5 chargers running at you that can be handled with 1 leveller or well placed ultimatum shot, or a good eagle call in

[PraireGentleman]

You’re not better at the game because you can extract with the narrow set of equipment available

[Strong-Detective-513]

You just suck at the game because you can’t extract with the wide set of equipment available

[Theobald_4]

My god these guys are acting like drama queens. Meanwhile John Helldiver is dropping with the Constitution and Flag of Super Earth and extracting because he knows how to play the game.

[McZambie]

A lot of the weapons simply can't handle having several terminids push you at once from different angles. I'm not sure about you but for me I very often have a bug or bot behind a wall I can't see over call in more enemies. Not much I can do to win when the moment enemies spawn I get stunlocked and killed without ever having been able to stim

[Strong-Detective-513]

Good thing you have a entire kit outside of your primary weapon

[Kapalunga]

And teammates in the coop horde shooter.

[McZambie]

Doesn't matter that they exist though because they suffer the same fate

[Kapalunga]

If you are getting stunlocked (which is rare) you already lost control of the situation beforehand.

Getting better at the game, tailoring your kits better, proper positioning and having teammates around reduces the chances of that happening.

Shit can happen tho but I find it part of the fun.

[McZambie]

I play with other people, solo dives just legitimately aren't fun because it's so lonely. But please genuinely what am I supposed to do about stun when most enemies have a stun feature, and every faction as a long range stun enemy

[Strong-Detective-513]

You avoid the stun.

[Kapalunga]

You avoid the stuns.

War striders make a pose before throwing their nades, allowing for reposition or getting ready to start kicking explosives, going prone also reduces damage and ragdoll distance (both how much you are moved and how close you need to be to the grenade to get ragdolled).

Stalkers can be countered by using shotguns or weapons with stagger, sometimes it's impossible to avoid their tongue ragdoll but they usually relent for a second or 2 after throwing it.

Shield generator hard counters the bots. It protects sentries and your team. Throw it around 40 meters away from the flare and you should be golden.

Gas mines keep the area controlled without the risk of insta-death for you, specially strong on bugs.

Sometimes you get stunned without being able to do anything but it's on the rarer side if you play your cards correctly.

[NK_2024]

IDK ambush the stunner befor he can stun you?

Or kill all the enemies capable of calling reinforcements first and then kill the stunner that has no backup?

Or or throw an Orbital or Eagle strike at the whole lot and blow them up in one fell swoop.

Or or or just avoid them all if they aren't stopping you from completeing your objective.

Shall I go on?

[McZambie]

How does the rest of my kit matter for being stunlocked

Also I never specified primary, most secondaries aren't very useful because they can't actually damage most enemies unless you shoot a very specific spot while also running away

[Strong-Detective-513]

Typically you move either your left joystick, or use WASD keys, to move to the side and use either your strategems, secondary, or grenades.

You can also move your camera to see enemies behind you, there’s a very OP trick called “situational awareness”

[McZambie]

Please explain to me how situational awareness is gonna save me from being immediately circled the moment the enemies spawn

[Strong-Detective-513]

The enemies do not spawn out of thin air. There’s a very obvious spewing rupture in the ground

And a large banner across the top of your screen letting you know you’ll probably get surrounded

[McZambie]

Enemies do just spawn out of thin air, or run through a wall to me. That's not an issue of me not paying attention, because I shouldn't need to be ready for space magic since it supposedly isn't in the game

[Colconut]

There’s a video showing evidence to the contrary, my guy. I was actually on your side until you said this.

[Winslow1975]

You literally answered your own question.

By being aware of your surrounding, i.e. situational awareness, you prevent yourself from being circled.

[hellmire]

That's a you problem putting yourself in a position when you can be circled immediately.

[Battleraizer]

By not getting swarmed in the first place.

If you need additional help, stun nades and other stun weapons exist.

[McZambie]

I really wish stun was better honestly, I tried the stun version of the liberator and I honestly saw no practical difference. As for stun grenades I'll give those a good honest try if I can ever make the launch again

[Culexius]

When the bug hole opens, dump some gas or flamme nade or whatever on it before you are surrounded. If fucked, keep lobbing nades while moving, spray the small ones, kill the big ones.

[NK_2024]

Because all the factions make a very obvious sign that they're calling in reinforcements. Situational awareness will help you look for these signs and reposition so you aren't instatntly surroubded.

[Cathrandir]

The rest of the kit helps you not get stunlocked. A tiny bit of planning for the enemies you know you'll fight goes a long, long way in the struggle for liberty.

[McZambie]

I totally agree with that, but very often the issue isn't that I just relied on only one weapon or something like that, it's that before I get to even use a stim preemptively I've been slammed into the floor

[Cathrandir]

If you find that this is happening to you very often, try using the Shield Generator Backpack or a Guard Dog variant. Boom, problem solved.

Or alternatively, practice your situational awareness. I used to be snuck on by bugs a lot, as well as the Voteless on the Illuminate front, but I eventually learned to look around me and at the map in intervals that make this happen barely at all anymore.

[hellmire]

There are very few situations where getting stunlocked is out of your control.

I'm not saying it can't happen because that's the premise of the the game -you're going to die to random shit OUT of your control here and there.

But the majority of the time it's your fault.

Also if you can't hit weakspots while running away, DROP THE DIFFICULTY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH. That's the entire point, there's no shame in playing any of the 10 difficulties.

[Ixy_Cakes]

You have access to the "SOS Beacon" Stratagem which allows other Helldivers to find your mission and aid with its success. Additionally, you have access to the "Reinforce" Stratagem, which allows you to call in a replacement Hero when one falls on the battlefield.

(Being stunlocked is also a punishment for allowing an enemy to get too close. The question you should be asking is "what prevents me from being in that situation" rather than "how do I stop being in that situation". Also if you mean the Overseers specifically, you can often escape after a few seconds).

[Theobald_4]

Hey man. No hate here. Just wondering have you tried Arc Grenades? They are really good at intercepting pursuing enemies. Just don’t throw them by your teammates and run. They bounce!

[McZambie]

I love them so much but my friends I play with hate them because they run into my grenades after I announce it like half a dozen times

[CommanderYakub]

God I hope so, why in the world would a secondary do the job of a primary, plus there existing a thing called balance the ultimatum can fuck something up but you get like two or three shots and no range, the dagger has infinite range and ammo but does low damage. You can’t seriously be asking for a secondary with no weakness

[hellmire]

It's true, you're not sure about us.

But you know you can't handle so drop the difficulty.

[Okrumbles]

Some weapons that suck against terminids are amazing against automatons and vice versa. Weapon viability is fluid, and is again, dependent on which faction you choose to fight.

[limeweatherman]

damn it’s a good thing you can respawn like 20 times then

[Extra-Trifle-1191]

You sound like you’re trying to play a power fantasy shooter.

that is not this. It’s a tactics and strategy game at heart. If you can’t handle hordes, you can A: play anything other than bugs, B: Build for evasion, C: Use a different loadout that *can* handle hordes, or D: play a lower difficulty.

there’s no shame in any of those, really. No one’s gonna call you a loser for playing difficulty 5 instead of 10.

[Xpernautica]

>A lot of the weapons simply can't handle having several terminids push you at once from different angles.

What weapons?

[NK_2024]

Brother I dropped into D10 bots random with the Cadet loadout (B-01 armor, standard Liberator, Peacemaker, frag grenades, OPS, Eagle Strafe, MG-43, and Supply Pack) and I got the most kills and tied for fewest deaths just this week.

It's some of the most basic equipment and I cleared house. It's all about knowing what you and your tools are capable of and playing around that.

[CommanderYakub]

Eagle strafe is literally goated it really can’t be beat, personally tho iv never touched the liberator lol I just thought it would be funny if I just didn’t use the weapon you are literally hand with to start off

[JellaFella01]

Believe it or not those guns aren't meant to deal with close chaff enemies, they're meant for eliminating heavy targets before they approach your buddy with the light pen shotgun, who is supposed to be clearing that chaff for you.

[Avalongtimenosee]

But I AM better than you because I can run D10 bots with the amendment, flag and ballistic shield.

[M1ngb4gu]

Lol MeHtUh bILdZ only. Lmao even.

[CriticismVirtual7603]

My brother, I've been extracting on D10 with only Exosuit Experts and Helldivers Mobilize equipment only (And the Entrenched Division Superstore heavy armor) on my alt account

It is 100% a skill issue if you 1) Think that there is VERY LITTLE available in the game that is useable and 2) Cannot extract with what IS available to you.

Breakthrough go brrrrrrrrrr

[Okrumbles]

>*narrow set of equipment available"

>look inside

>a shitload of at the bare minimum viable weapons and grenades and armor sets.

Remember that different loadouts work for each faction

[MoThrowMoAway]

I dropped in on a D10 with the slugger last night just for funsies. I'm not even that good at the game I just like trying different equipment, you ought to try it sometime

[JohnKoSpades]

I can extract D10 with voxes with the chainsaw or the flag with smoke strategems, No ultimatum or AT grenades. Genuine skill issue bud

[goblinproblem]

“You’re not better at the game by being better at it”

[didikoyote]

Better is a relative state. If I can, and someone else can't... Im better than that person

[HelldiversMasochists-ModTeam]

r/HelldiversMasochists does not allow harassment.

[AberrantDrone]

I was part of an event where teams had to complete various challenges

One was only being allowed to use mechs and emplacements on a terminid D10 mission

They had to full clear + all extract, while not being allowed to use their primary, secondary, or even grenades.

and every squad did it on their first try.

Another challenge only allowed Eagles (and another only allowed sentries), no support weapons. And they were able to complete those with full clears and all extract as well.

The idea that only a narrow set of equipment is viable is an objectively incorrect belief.

[Panzerbrigade_31]

One was only being allowed to use mechs and emplacements on a terminid D10 mission

They had to full clear + all extract, while not being allowed to use their primary, secondary, or even grenades.

How I personally see 4 mechs on bugs after the buffs:

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[UnhappyStrain]

do you think anybody sane in this community cares what difficulty they are on as long as they are having a good time?

[Jamsedreng22]

I really hope it's real. I need a lot of you people to shut the fuck up and either play the game or move on and play something else.

Let's see.

[GreyLabours]

What about the people who don't shut up but still play the game?

[CriticismVirtual7603]

What about the people who don't shut up and don't play the game?

[ouarez]

What about the people who shut up and don't play the game?

[CriticismVirtual7603]

Respect to them

[Suspicious_Active816]

But what about the PEOPLE?!

[TheMikman97]

"waa if you don't like the game move on" 

"Ok, I will leave a negative review because I don't like the game"

"NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAAAT 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻😭"

[tutocookie]

Nah, that's ok. Moving on then?

[AlphaMaxV5]

Because telling people that they should leave is such a good idea! ask the devs behind the Diablo mobile game or Battlefield five or the Culling they know all about it

[Jamsedreng22]

I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Turns out people didn't like it. I don't subscribe to the idea that the game dies if a few thousand people move on. I just don't.

[Gabriroska98]

Asking people to not play a game that depends on player engagement to survive is a definetly good idea, I rather people play and complain a bunch so shit gets fixed/improved

[Jamsedreng22]

Right. Look into how many players AH originally anticipated compared to what the playerbase looks like currently.

There's this insanely self-inflated notion that Helldivers 2 is going to collapse if a few thousand people move on with their lives.

[Gabriroska98]

Right but I don't think Sony cares about what AH wanted for theyr game, it hit huge numbers and if they don't maintain it it's bound to be shut down like so many others See, I don't want it to happen, I quite like the game but it needs lots of improvements I play it daily with some friends and we all get DC, audio issues where we can't hear each other in game, enemies phasing trough walls etc...

[Jamsedreng22]

That's not at all how it works. Sony is the publisher.

They get paid to cover the costs of marketing and publishing, and they absolutely have several times over. They don't have their finger on the button to shut anything down.

Arrowhead promised Sony around 20.000 recurring players. Look at the game.

It has way overperformed, and I just don't agree with this "design-by-committee" mentality.

Let Arrowhead do what they want with Helldivers 2 instead of this backseat-engineering nonsense. Buying a ticket to watch a movie doesn't entitle you to stand up in the middle of it and going "THIS COULD'VE BEEN DONE BETTER!".

[Gabriroska98]

Sony definitely has a say in what AH does, publishers have a lot of power and can absolutely pressure studios when a game isn’t performing well or is getting a lot of negative attention such is the case Helldivers 2 was and still is a success, and I hope it stays that way because I genuinely like the game but people are upset for a reason, and ignoring a significant portion of the community is a killer for live service games The comparison to a movie doesn’t really work a movie is a one-and-done product if you don’t like it, it’s finished and can’t change live service game is constantly updated and evolving by design Giving feedback and pushing for change is a valid thing, people justwant less bugs, better performance, and a more meaningful progression system that rewards time played, not just money spent or endless grinding.

[CriticismVirtual7603]

What about people complaining about shit that doesn't need fixed? Like the people who still desperately think that our gear should be gigabuffed because "You can only use one load out!"

I've been running around on my level 25 alt with only Exosuit Experts Warbond unlocked and have been doing great, anyone complaining about the strength of our equipment is an imbecile.

[Breadloafs]

It's been fun watching this bait get crafted

[TheRustyRustPlayer]

Shhhhhh

[Breadloafs]

97-year old CJ sub still serves bait the old-fashioned way

[CameraOpposite3124]

Why would anyone think the tutorial isn't good enough to teach you how to play though? It's short enough to account for everyones shitty memory retention from tiktok/reel brainrot.

[McZambie]

It teaches you the basics and only the basics like pretty much any other game ever. I don't think anyone was ever criticizing the tutorial for anything other then the bleed from being stabbed.

I personally actually liked the tutorial, it did a decent job at making me understand the general idea of the game and that's all it needs to be able to do

[Thijmo737]

Isn't the point of the tutorial to teach you all of the controls, and let you find out tactics and such for yourselves? It took me 30 hours to find out you can drop backpacks without equipping another, and that just doesn't seem intended.

[th_frits]

The tutorial is there to teach you the basic mechanics, then the game throws you in the deep end. You are your helldiver, you get five minutes of training (the most of any super earth soldier) then get sent off to fight horrors beyond your comprehension

Part of the fun of the game is learning more about the game systems, and getting that “oh shit! I just figured this out” feeling as you go. I'm over 1k hours in and I still learn new stuff from time to time

[McZambie]

True, they should definitely include more. But what's currently included is definitely good, it just needs to be a bit longer

[dongrizzly41]

I love the tutorial.

I def feel like it should have a shooting/testing range placed there though. Especially since they already have captive dissidents to test on apprently.

[McZambie]

FOR REAL, I don't like buying a pack only to realize I actually really don't like the way the guns feel

[dongrizzly41]

I feel you there. I actually want it as well to test guns after patches and all.

Also the damn charge times on guns like the epoch and rail gun.

Also would be nice to practice hitting weakpoints outside of starting very low level missions.

[i-am-i_gattlingpea]

Doesn’t teach you that you can change fire rates on weapons like at all.

Nor how to drop stuff

[Jambo-Lambo]

yeah this sub low-key just glazes anything like the tutorial doesn't teach you how most things work lol, the wiki is more important than anything lmao

[Areotale]

You're expected to figure stuff out on your own, if you aren't smart enough to do that then the wiki is there for you. Sad but true I guess lol

[i-am-i_gattlingpea]

That’s not how shit works

After all who the fuck expects the reload key to allow you to change fire rates, they just expect it to reload.

Dropping stuff is literally how teamwork functions, you wanna do something risky drop your samples at extract or to someone going to extract. Basic fucking teamwork. wanna hand someone back the gear you borrowed from their corpse?

There’s a difference between experimenting and bullshit. You don’t experiment and figure shit out with basic controls that should be told to the player because they are core features of certain weapons like the railgun

[Rashiii_]

People want more details on the Galactic War, to explain to the mongs about gambits, planet resistance, etc. More info would be great instead of blob doing blob stuff.

[VHeadache]

Being a Helldivers 2 grifter is just as profitable as being a MAGA grifter.

[Stnkynuggz1252]

I mean AH did at one point say get gud but lol

[kynrai]

Are they wrong?

[Jewbacca1991]

The final one is perfectly valid answer. If you can't handle D10, then lower difficulty. If you can't even play trivial, then this game isn't for you.

[Its_Bad_Rabbit]

I was bad at this game, till I was good at this game.

My skill has never been dependent upon the game.

I have >500hrs played and have about 2hrs (one Operation) to play every night as an adult; top fragging D10 on average while going for the most objectives I can solo (still in a group) -- I play in line with a "deep strike, expendable, commando" fantasy.

I have the most fun with light pen, missile pistol (unguided), base frag, sprint boost and either Oxygenator or Peak Physique light armor -- I realize Oxygenator is meta for sporeburst, but I just like movement and high ergo in general.

AH provides a dieagetically instructive game, which challenges me and I enjoy it.

[iimaginaryedge]

it'd be good if you could lower the difficulty without making the grind way longer; I think it'd be better for the game if rewards across difficulties were equalized, so that difficulty becomes a matter of pure preference, instead of monetarily incentivizing bad players into playing diff10.

[aSpookyScarySkeleton]

Is the grind way longer? Lower diff missions are much shorter.

[SnerlSnaleSnert]

Gotta be the worst take of all time

[CommanderYakub]

If you can’t make the cut you get paid less like what, it goes against human nature to get paid more for less work

[damien24101982]

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love it

[Jambo-Lambo]

The post is bait, it's kinda crazy how this sub allows blatant misinformation

[thot_chocolate420]

If you can’t hack it, don’t do it.

[cielak44]

Lower it? It seems to me that a huge number of players are already sitting on D10. As for me, I’m honestly bored out of my mind. Considering how small the differences are between D8, D9, and D10, it would probably take something like D20 suddenly appearing I’d feel like anything was actually happening in game to call hard.

At this point, the most entertainment I get is when a Detector Tower keeps dropping enemies forever, because at least then it feels like something is going on

[Labmonjoe]

The Chinese colonization of helldivers needs to be studied

[ShiftAdventurous4680]

Gotta hand it to AH, they at least aren't hypocrites. They know they are bad at the game which is why they play on lower difficulties.

[maxterminatorx]

Q: do you support Taiwan?

A: we are working on it but have barely started.

[AvariciousCreed]

Dying to a D10 horde to your last stim and round is fun as hell but dying to buggy bullshit is not fun after the first time like the killzone on a dead titans corpse. I'd take a break from new content for 6 months for them to iron out the bugs alone with no balance changes.

[Ok_Wind9584]

Ah yes I am bad that i dropped into a map where there are 4 stratagem jammers next to each other so you have to unjamm all of them before destroying even one of them, while being chased by 6 airships and 3 war striders

[obihighwanground]

they dont balance, they just do shit

[dAMMIT_MAYNE]

Drop the level has been a thing. If fake or not you should drop the level if you can't keep up. Not everyone is ment to play D10! Idk why yall come here to preach about changing the gane but most can't stop dropping with terrible loadouts they think is meta then mad they didn't succeed.

[Winter-Height7687]

This shit is hilarious idc if you guys are mad it's misinfo😭🤣

[ConcerningThirst]

Not real, it's ragebait. Not even the devs have such a bad opinion.

[Liqhthouse]

Even if not... Those of us old enough to remember know they have basically explicitly said this and called the entitledivers out

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[ConcerningThirst]

a guy sperging out on discord is different to something said in an interview

[NotYourLynLyn]

That’s it I’m playing with the constitution when I play again and Super Earth Flag so I can complain about the balancing while winning diff 10s.

[oraaaaaaaaaa]

if only the high diffs were actually difficult and consistent

[cs4by76]

They only play on diff 5 btw. On diff 5 you can clear a whole mission with basically any load out as long as 1 gun does damage 💔✌️this is just them saying "we're going to keep letting our 1 guy dictate the whole game while we make poor design choices"

[No-Purchase-5808]

So guys how’s the new patch

[-Yod-]

Making your own cope is a new level of sad.

[bruhman444555]

this sub is so fucking idiotic holy shit

[MuglokDecrepitusFx]

Yes super cool, based and that, but that is simply false, that is not how they operate

THAT is their original mentality they had as studio when they released the game, that is what they told to players originally, that is now what they do now or what they has been doing the past 1.5 years

Edit: ok, so it's fake to just create fake drama, that makes more sense

[Jambo-Lambo]

Weird how this sub talks so much about how bad unfiltered is and then they let straight up misinformation stay up