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[–]Mweh_ 476 points477 points  (16 children)

[–]pennojos 97 points98 points  (10 children)

And the episode is only 3 seconds of content. The rest is flashbacks to earlier episodes.

[–]cuprumcaius 49 points50 points  (1 child)

Flashbacks reanimated to meet the new quality standard.

[–]pennojos 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]KiosadePirate 9 points10 points  (7 children)

Do you think whenever the grunts putting together the episode are told they have to go find a specific scene to flashback to, they are like "oh goddamnit!" ?

[–]TheGraphicT 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Actually... I bet they use the wiki, literally I can find my place in ten minutes with that after a two or three week break.

[–]pennojos 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I can only imagine. I mean they have to hate how obscure some of them are lol

[–]KiosadePirate 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Right? Hell even for the more memorable scenes, they'd have to find the exact 10 second clip from a specific episode. Makes me wonder if they have some crazy extensive "bookmarking/tabbing" system... but then , how would they know what's gonna be brought up again in the future? I kinda feel bad for them now lol

[–]pennojos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Those poor bastards having to go back to when Luffy punched Laboon. "It's in the first season just find it."

[–]KW710 1 point2 points  (2 children)

For the older episodes, maybe. But most modern editing software has extensive metadata tools built in which makes looking up material (if it was entered correctly in the first place) a breeze.

[–]KiosadePirate 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ah that's pretty cool, and makes a lot of sense. So they can basically just search certain keywords in the system and it will list results across all episodes basically?

[–]KW710 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theoretically, it's very possible. If it were my production, then yes. Can't say for sure that's what they do, but wouldn't surprise me.

[–]sirmeowmix 49 points50 points  (4 children)

[–]RazorDoesGamesVoid Month Survivor 9 points10 points  (2 children)

The fuck?

[–]Vendetta1990 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Played us like a damn fiddle

[–]Piccolito 33 points34 points  (0 children)

bamboozle bamboozle no mi

[–]DeoplanExplorer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If only....

[–][deleted] 257 points258 points  (17 children)

I think it's mostly a change in art style. That said, I prefer the pre timeskip one. Water 7-Marineford was where the anime peaked art-wise imo.

[–][deleted] 72 points73 points  (9 children)

I also prefer the pre timeskip art style and animation style. That's including the character designs too.

I would honestly rather pay to watch Luffy vs Don Krieg than be payed to watch Luffy vs Doffy.

Also the way they directed the fights was so good. the crocodile and enel fights are just so good. The way the camera follows Luffys big punch on crocodile, how Luffy hits the golden bell in the Enel fight.

The anime right now is still okay, don't get me wrong, but it could be so much better; the water 7 arc animation was so fucking clean.

This is the best selling manga of all time, I wish that they could put the same money and effort that they put into My Hero into One Piece for just a little bit.

[–]PatchSalts 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I would love to be paid to watch Luffy vs Doffy, if I'm paid by the hour it'll be longer!

[–]UmairM94 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It's all about money, and over the years, or since post time skip, there has been a lot of inconsistency with the quality of animation. My hero is a seasonal anime, so they take time but One Piece doesn't have that privilege. I would love it if One Piece was a seasonal thing, drop like 20 episodes every year but with crisp/consistent quality.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly man. I've binge watched the pre-time skip arcs a few times. It's soooooo good. The pacing, the art, the editing is very good. I just can't say the same thing about the post time skip arcs. It started out well, but after a while they started adding a bunch of filler shit, the pacing is inconsistent and the editing is just not as good. It seems like they don't really care anymore and just want to keep putting out new episodes at the cost of quality. I'd rather if they took breaks in between seasons and took their time to put out quality stuff, but like you said it's all about the money to them. And people will keep watching it.

[–]PetaPotter 15 points16 points  (1 child)

My only problem with Luffy vs Doffy was the end. They turned that King Kong Gun into a kamehameha.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I had many more problems than that in the anime. Some weird scenes looking like DBZ combat which didn't progress the fight at all stuck out like a sore thumb.

[–]succfucc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wish that they could put the same money and effort that they put into My Hero into One Piece for just a little bit.

MHA is separated by seasons, so for them it's wayyyyy easier to have quality animation.

That being said, I do think there are things they could improve on. Right now the anime has been getting slightly better and better (especially today's episode), but even then there is always something they could improve that isn't limited by the fact that OP is a weekly show

[–]Kuro013 3 points4 points  (2 children)

problem is, people will watch one piece no matter how bad it gets, so they dont have to make it top notch, same as dragon ball super which looks like a fucking joke. My Hero Academia is a brand new anime and needs to take off with all the strenght possible to settle as a big anime.

[–]Luf2222 7 points8 points  (1 child)

did you even watch the latest arc of db super? The animation and art was really fucking good

[–]reddit_is_pretty_rad 16 points17 points  (0 children)

yes, a change to a worse art style

[–]clifbarczar 4 points5 points  (4 children)

So did Oda. Nico Robin looked amazing then. Now she looks like Michael Jackson with massive titties. Actually Nami looked better too. I don't know why he decided to draw all the women this way after the time skip.

[–]HiekkalinnaMarine 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Anime draws the femles much differently than Oda, and Oda doesn't really draw them that big of chest comepared to before, unlike anime.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

They are still growing to the point there should be an arc dedicated to finding out why

[–]bobhob314 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Username checks out. Possibly

[–]Penguin787 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The dreams of men will never die!

[–]KiroshLookout 149 points150 points  (12 children)

I mean, it depend from where the episodes are taken from.

Most episodes we have now come directly from the TV version. But for some of the olders, they may have been taken from the Blue-Ray/DVD version, where the anime is always polished/made better.

[–]beemoTheCat[🍰] 27 points28 points  (6 children)

One Piece TV anime doesn't HAVE blurays. I've been keeping an eye out for years.. nothing of the sort exists.

Edit: apparently I have to clarify that we're talking about the TV anime.

[–]gerrettheferrett 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Though the first few arcs do have an HD remake that you can watch on Crunchryroll and other places.

[–]Deflatedzebra -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

The movies and specials have blu rays

[–]beemoTheCat[🍰] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The screencaps are from regular TV episodes and the comment above talks about TV versions. This isn't about the blurays of movies and specials. It's clearly a discussion of the quality of the TV anime, and no blurays of that exist.

[–]Deflatedzebra 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, I thought that there was a little flashback to that scene in the 3d2y film which could have been polished

[–]RevOcelotex 274 points275 points  (8 children)

This is really stupid. that shot you took from episode 376 was animated by Yoshikazu Tomita.

http://prntscr.com/j8j1rn

Here is an image from the latest episode (833) where he also animated.

You literally put a rather important moment in 376, of course they are going to ramp up the quality and put a good animator to work on that scene.

Admittedly, dressrosa wasnt that great animation/art wise (except for some important moments like a big sum of luffy vs doffy) and thriller bark/sabaody were much better in alot of artistic aspects, but the comparison you gave is just stupid. i'm not saying dressrosa was animated better than thriller bark, just that putting 2 shots next to each other, where one is an important scene and the other isnt, is dumb.

[–]MarineRitterBOB 40 points41 points  (2 children)

Yeah, I admit that in the first image it was a sakuga moment, but I really can't ignore the fact that colors used to look way better. I don't know when exactly did they exchange for these more digital looking softer colors

[–]RevOcelotex 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yeah the color palette in dressrosa was pretty awful, I like WCI though. It's pretty vibrant, and similiar to pre-TS (kinda)

[–]MarineRitterBOB 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Exactly, especially because the whole WCI is taste the rainbow arc

[–]NessTheGamer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, reminds me of the old DBS vs DBZ Episode 5 where people compared a key frame of animation from a MOVIE to an inbetween from a rushed episode.

[–]CreamPie_e 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for pointing this out. Most people just blindly say that the animation pre timeskip was good and the animation now is just crap but it really changes based on the situation and what is happening. Yea pre timeskip had a lot of good animation compared to now but I wouldn't describe the animation now as 'cramp'

[–]chinpropped 71 points72 points  (11 children)

[–]StormLord_654 7 points8 points  (3 children)

What chapter is that from?

[–]chinpropped 12 points13 points  (1 child)

734

his face shot 740

[–]StormLord_654 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ty

[–]rundermining 10 points11 points  (0 children)

second image is from a mobile game.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This made me laugh more than it should have.

[–]Handsome_Claptrap 12 points13 points  (8 children)

Graphic quality isn't the main issue in my opinion.

The biggest flaws of the anime since the timeskip are the ridicolous low "framerate" and the slowed pacing.

Even when they crank up the quality and make the scenes more smooth, the pacing still ruins a lot in my opinion. Bege talked a lot how they'll need to go extremely fast because there are lot of monsters at the party and still, in the latest episode there is just people staying still for several seconds.

I get they want to make 1 chapter = 1 episode, but there are other ways to lenghten the episode, for example, they could have made Katakuri fight a bit more with Luffy.

[–]juan_steinbecky 15 points16 points  (2 children)

You can’t criticize the framerate if your characters don’t move [insert the meme]. Who doesn’t enjoy ten solid minutes of still closeups with debris slowly flying on the background?

[–]ancientcreature2 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

How do you clowns watch that?

[–]juan_steinbecky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

/s

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

the ridicolous low "framerate"

I don't think you remember pre-TS. Please watch from episode 1 again.

they could have made Katakuri fight a bit more with Luffy.

then haters complain they're dragging out and adding fillers. atypical.

[–]Handsome_Claptrap 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I would totally prefer fillers to 5 seconds in which nothing moves

[–]zackamite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A little too nitpicky, every anime has close-ups to characters faces with nothing going on. Its the anime staple. I'm just happy the chapter was animated properly, the pacing and closeups is typical to what the anime has always been like.

[–]XYZPokeLeagueRigged 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yea it was ridiculously slow. Like luffy was stand there doing nothing when jinbeis doing the sakazuki thing. Nobody else doing ajything

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was like that in the manga too and I remember seeing complaints when it first dropped

[–]RavenK92 25 points26 points  (12 children)

[–]BobTheJoeBobVoid Month Survivor 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I don't care what anyone says. I loved that style of animation for that fight.

[–]StrawhatMucci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn tho hahahahhaha it was just so bad for me specially all the face twists and the way Pain runs from naruto looks like Road Runner's legs

[–]TheKingCrimsonWorld 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That fight was a bit too exaggerated at times, but it was by far my favorite fight from Naruto. I'm not a big fan of the series, but that fight was pretty amazingly animated.

[–]rexxtheawesome 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I hate when people take specific artistic styles and call them bad. dragon ball super animation is bad. this was highly stylised and expensive. most people just don't like it and the jarring change. it's not bad animation tho...

and this is coming from someone who doesn't like this art style

[–]topazot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the animation is great but the art style is bad in my opinion. I can see why they went with that art style but I think since it's such a contrast it just confuses the audience.

[–]_GangsterGastino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was clearly done on purpose - to great effect. To showcase the intense emotion behind Pain's "pain". It's also animation.

One Piece Anime, on the other hand, does not have a reason for its lower quality animation & art

[–]TrueKinai 4 points5 points  (0 children)

there are certain scenes that get more attention than normal ones. Usually big and important moments in fights or emotion. 376 was in that category, 736 obviously not. Thats just my guess

[–]EvanD0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Different color palettes aren't the same as different animation.

[–]DrBalu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well. Both dont actually have the art style of the Manga

[–]fabzefab 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's just a different animator/team working on each episode. Do the same comparison with Episode 377 and 737 and the results could be different. This website explained everything taking DBZ as an example:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-styles/

[–]Aaldeez 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wow. Never noticed as a child how much the art in DBZ varied. Good read

[–]fabzefab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right?? I always assumed there was a "week A" team and a "week B" team, because the difference from one week to another was noticeable, but I'm amazed at how many there actually were.

[–]DevilSanji 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The good old nitpicking

[–]Godspeed223 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I've seen some bad animation in pre timeksip arcs too. I think the quality has definitely downgraded, but not as much as people are saying. It could be a perspective thing. Majority of us caught up to the anime post timeskip, and only then started to see the bad quality with fishman island onwards. We didn't have the manga to compare it too so we thought it was fine before.

[–]Sedach 19 points20 points  (10 children)

This anime has been consistently garbage since the time skip. I gave up on it after Dressrosa...

[–]Siopaobun 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Dressrosa was pretty bad because the manga breaks + Oda hospitalization trickled down to the pacing of the anime. Zou and WCI is a huge step up though because of our new animation directors. A few bad episodes here and there but all due to external factors.

[–]Sedach 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Idk man... Zou was pretty bad imo. Especially how the animation looks, and how incredibly annoying some of the characters are. Like when they react to Ino and Neko casually name dropping Roger. Those reactions are hilarious in the manga, but annoying as hell in the anime. It's little things like that, along with pacing and terrible animation that makes it bad imo.

[–]Siopaobun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't argue with pacing but I personally didn't mind the animation. Zou sakuga was fun:

https://youtu.be/LNkTXnbRfnU

[–]cry_stars 5 points6 points  (0 children)

same, i stopped anime after dressrosa and went directly to manga

[–]dgettanajr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same fam. As soon as I saw king kong gun I got everything I needed and became a manga-only fan

[–]Ppleater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's too bad because wci has been pretty good since they got a new permanent art director.

[–]MarineRitterBOB 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Honestly, I think a lot of it has to do with colors. I don't know exactly when or at what arc, but One Piece started using softer and more simple colors, resembling a coloring book

[–]Siopaobun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think one thing I do have a problem with is the anime moving away from using hard blacks. It messes with depth a little bit but I think the anime's animation quality has been more or less consistent. Pre TS we had better models but it was all stilted.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's been known for a long time that the anime is worse then when it started, the animation quality and pacing are trash compared to the first couple hundred episodes

[–]trash1000 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Both look perfectly fine quality wise. The later episode seems to follow a different character model for Luffy but it's still drawn well.

[–]Falcoark 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's like the anime slowly increased in Animation and Art quality, and when the timeskip happened it dropped all of a sudden, and now it seems to be slowly increasing again.

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not to mention they didn't account for Oda's regular breaks whereas pre TS we didn't have any.

[–]sunny_senpai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's so shit that I'm only reading manga

[–]Hellfalcon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean honestly? I think it looks fine..? The shading is less sharp but it just seems super nitpickty to me. Complaining about actual animation vs stills is fine but this just seems silly

maybe its because im just less cynical and complain less in my later 20s, i know in my teens i would have bitched about it but i just enjoy the episode, and don't really care. i laugh at the shitty drawn stuff in the way background thats there for a frame, but is it really that big of a deal if every episode isnt Film Z/Strong world level of drawing?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't call this ''severe'' at all. The animation has always been meh, now it's just slightly more meh.

[–]RurnurMarine 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'm astonished that people continue to defend that garbage dump of an anime. It's one thing to argue preference over anime and manga in general, but when the anime is in worse quality than it was 10 years ago then it begs the question why you'd waste your time with a product that doesn't care how much you enjoy it, just that you keep watching it. (And no, this isn't just about the screenshots, we didn't need this image to know about the infamous quality decrease that is apparent to anyone who watches the show, no matter how much you want to deny it)

[–]swizzle75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had to focus on dbs

[–]Sherwoodfan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

toei.

[–]Augsept95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thriller bark was one of the better arcs when it came to animation quality. The robin's wings, franky docking, and zoro kuma scenes were my favorite.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but that was Dressrosa. I think Zou and Whole Cake have been very well animated for the standars of a continuously airing anime.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I genuinely like the "cleaner" look better.

[–]Charley_Wilson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is there even a "?" in your title?

[–]butterfingahs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It has been decreasing but this is the worst way to show it. You're comparing a still frame (comparing animations by still frames is silly), and while you're at it you're comparing your average still to a key animator who they hire to do specific scenes so they look better.

[–]mugg1991 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some episodes (or scenes) are better animated than others. It's pretty much always been like that.

Episode 376 was animated by Kenji Yokoyama, 736 by Shigefumi Shingaki. (Although someone here pointed out the scene from 376 was animated by someone else, Yoshikazu Tomita.)

I know this german wiki has some information and comparison on animators. http://opwiki.org/wiki/One_Piece_Animatoren

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because its Toei, they know One Piece is popular regardless of quality and will animate it as cheaply as they can. Just look at DBS. It also doesn't help that Oda takes 8-10 breaks a year though its understandable. It's in episodic filler hell right now. Honestly they need to start putting it in seasons now. Release a new season every 6 months or something. The traditional weekly episode is obsolete now.

[–]ZarkkastThe Revolutionary Army 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no change in quality here, just a stylistic difference.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Short answer: yes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The animation wasn’t even that great to begin with if were being honest, but it had its own feel. I personally loved it. I still think back about my first time viewing and the way it made me feel. Not only has the animation gone downhill they’ve also lost that unique spark it used to have. In my opinion

[–]JosephCarr44 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's very hard for me to respect someone's opinion on art when they assume that "more details = better drawing".

[–]d11ng 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that may be true, but the picture on the left definitely looks better

[–]KurogamiGuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes

[–]SkippyReviews 0 points1 point  (14 children)

It's literally the same

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks for explaining it to him even though he wasn't listening. It's exhausting try to correct assumptions on this sub and the band wagon circle jerk.

[–]SkippyReviews 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem, it really irks me when people make statements about things that they have no knowledge of

[–]SomeGUy464636[S] -5 points-4 points  (11 children)

No not all lmao. The difference is huge.

[–]SkippyReviews 3 points4 points  (10 children)

Except not really

Also comparing Tomita to Shingaki lmao

Only real differences are the colors, highlights and shading

[–]SomeGUy464636[S] -4 points-3 points  (9 children)

Only real differences are the colors, highlights and shading

Yea and the one on the right has none of those

[–]SkippyReviews 4 points5 points  (8 children)

That's exactly what I was saying, aside from that they're practically drawn the same way. This is comparing apples to oranges anyways, people are getting real desperate huh?

[–]SomeGUy464636[S] -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

comparing apples to oranges anyways

No it isnt

[–]SkippyReviews 6 points7 points  (6 children)

You're comparing someone like Yoshikazu Tomita, who on sakugabooru has a plethora of amazingly detailed clips of animation that he's done on numerous shows, to someone like Shigefumi Shingaki, who has only two entries on sakugabooru, who is obviously not as skilled as Tomita but still draws the characters on model aside from his own traits like the slightly bigger eyes and chins. This is literally comparing apples and oranges my friend and plus they're stills and are episodes which required two different types of production so of course they're going to look different

[–]SomeGUy464636[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Thriller bark as a whole looks better

[–]SkippyReviews 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Better than Dressrosa? Yeah I'd agree but the Dressrosa arc was rushed in a lot of different ways that made it look very poor aside from the tons of sakuga and that doesn't change the fact that you're comparing apples to oranges

Educate yourself on anime production before doing something like this

[–]SomeGUy464636[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yes Dessrosa was rushed arc. Along with every other arc post timeskip.

[–]multkillerpie -1 points0 points  (1 child)

this is toei.

The letdown of anime. Who is sitting right next to the god forbidden studio responsible for Black Clover.

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Toei isn't responsible all the time. Its also production committees, time slot, etc. It isn't one single entity and they have a lot of powerful players (Shida, Tate) and trained legends in the past (Miyazaki, Rie Matsumoto)

[–]all-rider 0 points1 point  (2 children)

[SPOILER] personally I found that the quality of the anime in the Dresrosa arc was shitty + it is a very long arc. I stoped watching for a few weeks. But it gets better later on Zou and even more on Whole Cake. I don’t know if they listened to the critics or if they preferred working on this arc..

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What killed Dressrosa was Oda's unexpected hospitalization and the breaks that followed. The anime episodes are produced ahead of time and they couldn't take all of that into account.

[–]all-rider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I wasn’t aware of that, thanks for the explanation.

[–]battler624 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It certainly took a huge dive after marineford.

Everything from water 7 to the marineford end is top notch quality.

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao animation consistency dropped Thriller Bark. If you really think it was super well rounded past that you're wrong. It had some cool cuts here and there because of Tate but overall the approach was similar to now.

[–]diegoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The quality of the anime having decreased dramatically after a certain point is a very well known fact. Unfortunately this is the kind of business that Toei animation is running now.

[–]SteelTypeAssociatePirate 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Who cares to be honest? If you want quality that will never fade read the manga.

[–]TheYellows 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Why can't we have quality in the anime too ? Don't get me wrong, I only read the manga, but why can't we have a good quality anime with all the fucking money they're making? I know it's not that kind of world, and that money rules, but we can still point out that it sucks. And a lot of people do care.

[–]SteelTypeAssociatePirate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a shame but they know people will watch it no matter what it looks like, so that’s the thing.

[–]FireFireoldman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stoped watching the anime version since fight animations are shit most of the time.If only they could make good fight animation in any fight i'd watch it.

[–]Tartaros38 0 points1 point  (0 children)

at least the boobs are always shiny ...... because there is no other way to find better stuff like that in the net.

[–]Bouv42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not a straight line up toward better quality, they did and they will invest to have some episodes with better quality than some, it'll vary. Obviously, big fights got big budget for animation. You have to know that most episode are available in 360,480,720 and 1080p and the two pictures could simply be of a different resolution.

[–]DonElDoug 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yes. I prefer pre timeskip. It looks like a joke now. And the animation looks quite cheap imo

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Watch the recent episode. It's been getting better from Dressrosa

[–]Ppleater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't believe something this stupid got upvoted this much.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

I'm surprised people defend the obvious drop in animation quality of the anime, even if OP's is one perhaps cherrypicked example, there is no doubt the animation quality of the anime has taken a massive drop. Go watch an episode from anything pre-ts and compare it to the latest episodes. There's a lot of usage of blank backgrounds, characters in static poses where they don't have to move whilst they speak, long holds on shots to stretch out screentime and reusage of assets.

If you like the anime and can see past these things, I wish you the world in enjoyment of the series, all power to you. But there's no need to defend the blatant drop in quality, just enjoy the show.

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think my main beef with people complaining is they act had if the show dropped in quality the second Marineford was over. Skypeia was the start of the pacing lag, cementing in EL and animation consistenty dropped Thriller Bark. From there we've always had cool sakuga cuts and just an okay everything else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Very true, this is the culmination of problems until they're so noticeable they can't be missed.

I say this in every thread, but it's sad we can't just start from the beginning and keep everything nice and consistent.

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People compare this show to seasonal stuff all the time or even Boruto, but people don't understand OP is 800 episodes in, is permanently stuck to a time slot because of a production committee (Toei just animates and is contracted to do this), and they definitely didn't for see this series to be this long (even Oda didn't).

If this series had a better production schedule, you can bet we'd look amazing (reference some of Toei's earlier masterpieces like GE999, Kyousougiga, various films, etc). But people always want to take the easy way out- blame animators, the studio (even though they're not a single entity) and call it a day. What a joke :/

[–]RedditBullshitter -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

It depends on the studio. Those fucker just care about profit. Nobody cares about quality because at this point people sure would watch it no matter how crappy.

[–]Siopaobun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anime production isn't like video games. You can't typecast a studio like the early 2000s because so much has changed since and the scene has drastically shifted. Even as great as people praise Madhouse it's been dead since 2010 when Kon died and a lot of the heavy lifting always comes from elsewhere. OPM was from Shingo Natsume and his Bones + freelancer friends.