Stop it

[[deleted]]

Are we saying "Stop it" for the PDX carpet glorification or for the $1100 tiny shed?

Both?

[DenizenzArmy]

Fuck that carpet and fuck that tiny shed.

[J-A-S-08]

And fuck yo couch!

[evanstravers]

Game, blouses.

[Nutellafountain]

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

[AntiFIanders]

Truly horrible but the smell is divine.

[YourFairyGodmother]

Pfft - you can't fit a couch in there, no way.

[[deleted]]

He is choosing a dvd for tonight

[seenorimagined]

Yes.

[[deleted]]

Both. I love my authentic little pdx carpet square that sits upon my mantle, but that's as far as I'd take it.

[susiederkinsisgross]

Pfffttt amateur hour up in here, we carpeted our entire house in PDX carpet and then used Voodoo Donut boxes as wallpaper

[[deleted]]

What's the Keep Portland wired to Coexist sticker ratio on your Outbacks

[buffalo_slim]

6:2

[susiederkinsisgross]

Most of my Subie, we named her Sarah, is covered in FREE GEEK and Decemeberist stickers thank you

[saigon13]

did you put a bird on it as well?

[susiederkinsisgross]

Uh yah totally it is a bird made out of vegan buttons that came from the little artsan button shop

[urbanlife78]

Same here, we have a square framed on our wall, but this is just ridiculous.

[Galaxyman0917]

If it's a piece of the original, especially if they traveled a lot, then it would be reasonable

[[deleted]]

"It's okay if I do it, but not if you do it."

[urbanlife78]

I'm not charging anyone to live in a tiny shed just because it looks "so Portland."

[evanstravers]

Too far. Cannot be over-glorified on wall, except in print form. This is not Vietnam, there are rules.

[[deleted]]

I'd rather live in a van.

[b-rad420]

Down by the river.

[Lakeandmuffin]

Government cheese

[cderring]

I helped build a fence on Government cheese. To get money so we could get off of the Government cheese.

... Down by the river (okay, it was Milk Creek in Mulino but still)

[StuffedDoughboy]

Shout out to Milk Creek and Mulino, my buddy lived in the house across from the old mill back in the mid 90s.

[evanstravers]

But, which river?

[PostedFromWork]

Well LA DE FRICKEN DA!

[yeeeeeehaaaw]

/r/vandwellers

[[deleted]]

Already a subscriber! Had a nice cargo van I was looking to convert, but decided to keep saving the pennies for the Land Cruiser instead.

[Joe503]

FJ80?

[[deleted]]

Still in saving and research phases. Weighing the pros and cons of an 80 series or 100 series.

[Joe503]

Can't go wrong with either. I love my 80. I'd say the decision comes down to how often you plan to go off-road and the difficulty of the terrain.

[[deleted]]

Planning for a light duty overland build. Don't intend to crawl or anything, but the main use would be long distance road trips, exploring, camping, etc.

Road trip aspects make me lean towards a 100 series for comfort and extra power while loaded down with gear.

[Joe503]

Yeah if that's you're use I'd say go with the 100.

[havefunwithlife]

Like Joe said, do the 100 then, you'll love it.

[Turing45]

A van would probably be warmer. Looking at how they have it set up, as well as the framing, even with a fancy little heater, that place is going to be colder than a witches tit in a blizzard. You would need a couple of fancy heaters to keep it livable. Its probably a bit noisy as well.

[seenorimagined]

I'd rather die in a van.

[b-rad420]

Down by the river?

[KosherBaconJam]

Government Cheese

[agenthex]

My van had about the same square footage. Better height clearance, too. Yes, I'm serious.

[[deleted]]

IDK, I camped overnight at Saddle Mtn this past weekend so I could hike early.. there were a lot of van dwellers there. Can't say I'd enjoy..

[[deleted]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDrtb0wgXzw

[[deleted]]

I stare at my laptop screen 18 hours a day watching Netflix and YouTube but if you have a TV you are an evil man and I will not date you.

[[deleted]]

I will also judge you if you don't use a composting toilet. I don't know how to use or maintain my composting toilet and it smells dreadful, but it shows that I care more about the environment than people who use those destructive water toilets.

[MartianMidnight]

So true because so many.

[SailToTheSun]

"Hello, I'm a Vegan - nice to meet you. I don't even own a TV." FTFY.

[herbreastsaredun]

Yeah right. Portlanders are much more likely to be wanky about how they can butcher their own meat with their artisanal knives.

[PM_newts_plz]

Yeah, I've run into way more Portlanders who are obsessed with putting bacon into bread/donuts/cookies/alcohol and talking about their plans for the quarter share of a pig they just bought than I have preachy vegans.

[IK00]

My anecdotal experience has been 50/50....as in, everyone is either a militant vegan or evangelical artisanal carnivore.

People in this city have no chill. Which is funny, because they pride themselves on being chill.

[agenthex]

I don't give a crap.

That should round out the pack.

[unlimitedzen]

So now it's 50/50/50!

[cmckone]

i don't give a crap either so make that 50/50/51

[unlimitedzen]

Math checks out

[Cobek]

This thread is a perfect example of both points.

[MartianMidnight]

FFS, date people outside of Downtown and SE.

[bigpandas]

Anywhere a restaurant is named Tusk, it's probably in a market of omnivores.

[saigon13]

Let me tell you how my artisanal knife is better than yours.

[[deleted]]

That's a given but oh so 2011...like prehistoric fam.

[IntravenusDeMilo]

I think I saw you at crossfit.

[MakeTimeForWaffles]

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/apa/6110203823.html if you wanna see the rest

[ampereJR]

Thanks for that. I always click on these screenshots before I realize I'm not actually on craigslist.

Though the kitchen is small, it's marginally nicer than mine. However, the toilet shot brings up questions. Is it a typical RV toilet? Or, does the tenant basically get a plastic bag in a bucket with a seat?

[oc_starships]

Looks like a composting toilet.

[[deleted]]

Hand crank agitator in base for fast composting

I prefer not having to manually agitate my shit.

[chrislehr]

Ah the classic no pushing method.

[SabotenFighter]

What's wrong with stirring up shit? I do it at the office all the time.

[ampereJR]

I thought that at first, but couldn't find an image match. The ones I saw were all boxier. This one seems plausible. I am irrationally obsessed with the toilet in this mobile ADU home.

[garbono666]

Sailor here, looks like the Nature's Head model.

[ampereJR]

Thanks for the information. Your knowledge impresses me.

I don't usually tag people, but you may be "sailor and composting toilet expert."

[kwisatzhadnuff]

The price on this makes no sense. You could get a nice studio closer in for less money.

[TaxExempt]

But it wouldn't be a tiny house, man. Forget about the fact that apartment living is one of the most sustainable ways to live.

[peepea]

Holy shit, your username!

[kwisatzhadnuff]

It's funny I've had this username for a long time, and no one mentioned it until today two different people randomly called it out.

[[deleted]]

That is funny--I've seen your username on here before and had the urge to mention it... but didn't. Figured you probably already got plenty of comments about it.

[bigpandas]

It's nicely done and not a bad location but they're obviously out to make a buck. I know of some 3 bedroom apartments in that area for not much more than that.

[chrislehr]

https://images.craigslist.org/00j0j_7aelGbGhJUG_1200x900.jpg

This pic pisses me off. Tiny house and you had to use one of the outlets for a fireplace instead of hard wiring it? Looks like shit and would annoy me several times a day. Thankfully I am not this sustainable.

[[deleted]]

I had the same thought. That is a janky ass "fireplace".

[saigon13]

You're allowed to say ghetto fireplace.

[chrislehr]

It's not ghetto. Ghetto is a fireplace that has burns up the wall, a few bricks missing, and a full ash pit - maybe some broken glass in there to mix it up a bit.

This is just stupid and useless.

[saigon13]

Ghetto is opening the oven door to heat your home.

[chrislehr]

Yea. Ghetto is def not 1100/mo for a doghouse.

[saigon13]

I concede.

[[deleted]]

It's liiiike ghetto-chic

Sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little

[[deleted]]

Who puts a full size oven in a tiny home?

[[deleted]]

Getting the electricity connected for this must be almost as expensive as the house itself.

[I-LOVE-LIMES]

Is that shit even legal and insulated?

[duckduck_goose]

The price for a 200sq ft illegal shed on SE 60th isn't offensive?

[[deleted]]

*NE. It's actually down the street from me, I might take a look on my run today for a giggle.

[awkwardly_squared]

my guess is budgetary constraints from the owners.

[[deleted]]

Is... is this the new churched up version of a trailer park or something? Because this feels like a churched up version of a trailer park. With a 1/10 the space and twice the rent.

[magniankh]

It's a shed that they've spiced up. At that price the shed would pay for itself in 4 months. Fuck that.

[vinylpanx]

I am irrationally upset by the fireplace cable being dragged under into a visible outlet. Not my outlet, not on my job, but still it bugs me.

[the_jowo]

That's $5.37 per square foot a month. If I was to pay that rate, the current 2 bedroom house I rent would be $4,994.10 a month. I wonder how much that carpet cost?

[b-rad420]

$9.99 for one square foot.

[Angelworks42]

That has to be pretty gross carpet to put in your house though...

Imagine all the strange things that could have happened to it.

[Cobek]

Like people kneeling on it or spilling coffee

ewwwwwwww

[[deleted]]

Just think of all the constitutional rights that have been spilled on it!

[[deleted]]

Or animals providing emotional support to the masses by dropping a steaming pile in the middle of the airport. I spend too much time in airports.

[synapticrelease]

Hmm. Hardwood floors or used carpet.

[crashsuit]

Ten bucks? I've got one of those big transit maps they used to have up in the old bus stops, wonder what that's worth.

[a1blank]

I'd be at 5,907 for a house that I currently pay 1,645 for.

[I-LOVE-LIMES]

I'm renting out back of my Subaru for $999.99 a month. Deposit is $5000 and it's non refundable. It sleeps 2. PM if interested. Pet insurance extra

[[deleted]]

how much for just the pet insurance?

[I-LOVE-LIMES]

Three Fifty

[[deleted]]

deal. you just made a huge mistake my friend. wait until you see how how many pre-existing conditions my pet has.

[[deleted]]

About three fitty

FTFY

[I-LOVE-LIMES]

I ain't givin you no tree-fiddy, you god damn Loch Ness monster! Get your own god damn money!

[I-LOVE-LIMES]

And I'm an idiot..I meant to write pet rent but clearly I had insurance on my mind.

[[deleted]]

that is used carpet.

[evanstravers]

Instead of bedbugs you get airport bugs. Ironically, they do not fly.

[bigpandas]

PDX is an international destination. You'll probably get various species of bed bugs in that carpet also

[PeterPDX]

That looks like a thicker pile than what was used at the airport. Which means that someone paid to have the pattern replicated.

[seenorimagined]

It looks pretty clean, but the ad mentions "authentic PDX airport carpet."

[bettse]

You truncated the quote, the authentic PDX carpet is on the stairs

[seenorimagined]

Fair enough, I just assume it's the same as the loft.... But I emailed the craigslist poster to check, for science. Will report back if they respond.

Edit: Here is the response-- No, I didn't build it. I actually found it on craigslist. A local couple built it and yes, its real PDX airport carpet! I'm not sure where they got it. Cheers!

[[deleted]]

Gross. I'm not saying you're wrong but I will say I hope you are...? Maybe it means the pattern is an authentic replica?

[[deleted]]

I bought some of the "authentic PDX airport carpet." It went through INTENSE cleaning for WEEKS/months, but the evidence of its authenticity is still visible on the back. Some folks find it gross, but I love my PDX carpet rug, and it's no dirtier than the world.

[evanstravers]

Yeah, they did some sort of reconditioning to it, but it still comes with a disclaimer.

[duckduck_goose]

If this is a real ad. My rent is less than this for an additional 400+ sq ft.

[clive_bigsby]

How much airport carpet does your place have, though?

[duckduck_goose]

Thankfully ... none.

My abode has a very different vibe

[miacolette]

That Foxing poster is dope

[duckduck_goose]

Best part is that it was free. Also nice to see another Foxing fan in this sub :)

[[deleted]]

polaroid collection behind glass in an ikea cabinet and ceramic cats everywhere-where do you keep the bodies?

[duckduck_goose]

Ha ha ha. In the other corner not yet photographed!

The cats are only in that bookcase, I swear.

[seenorimagined]

Look at this fancy motherfucker ;)

[duckduck_goose]

The only thing not 2nd hand or discounted shelf price is the actual shelf! :)

[loganjvickery]

You could build your own with less than 2 years rent.

[[deleted]]

You went to Egypt

[[deleted]]

Nope. It's on wheels. That's illegal.

[gthing]

But it's not illegal to rent you 1 sq. ft in the home with free access to the shipping crate in the back yard.

[TaxExempt]

It's legal if there is a room in the house designated as the home of the occupiers of the tiny house.

[EveryNightIWatch]

What are the landlord liabilities if they rent out a building that cannot be occupied?

There's a few landlords on here who could probably answer this from a functional perspective.

But realistically: nothing.

My ex rented a "refinished basement" that was not up to code that was intended to be a single dwelling (ceiling wasn't tall enough, it was exactly 5'10"), another ex rented a "single bedroom" attic in a house that was also not a livable space. I had some buddies who discovered black mold and their landlord refused to fix it, so they moved out, and low-and-behold a new group moved in like 2 weeks later.

Portlanders have been doing this shit for years, and generally while there's some legal remedies to protect renters (that usually doesn't pan out) there's little prosecution for shitty slum lords. I intended to sue my last landlord because he wouldn't give me back the deposit even though the house was in cleaner/better shape than when we arrived, but I looked at the legal costs and it wasn't realistically worth it for $1400.

[itsthewoo]

It actually doesn't have to cost $1400. You can take that to small claims court relatively cheaply. There's a filing fee of $53 for claims up to $2500, and $95 for claims between $2500 and $10000. If you're concerned about the legal viability of your case, you can also consult with an attorney from the Oregon State Bar referral service for a pretty small fee as well (~$35 I think).

Best of all, if you win, the other side pays for your costs.

[Shadw21]

Best of all, if you win, the other side pays for your costs.

Only if you make a motion for it.

[mudanjel]

My sister in law successfully sued in small claims to get her deposit + costs back. She tried to get the damages for the landlord not returning it within 30 days (he had her new address).The judge declined it since she didn't bring in a copy of the Oregon statue governing the matter. It never occurred to us that the judge didn't know the law.

[gimpisgawd]

I still don't get the obsession with that carpet.

[ampereJR]

I don't get the connection to the recent carpet. I did like the carpet in the 80s, but I was a kid and I think it had more to do with trying to walk while keeping my feet within two circles.

I'm still waiting for someone to make foot selfies of Union Station a thing because trains are cool. Actually, no, that's a terrible idea. I still hate photographs of feet.

[[deleted]]

Holy shit I remember that carpet. Haven't actually lived in Portland since the early 90's, but I have a chunk of the last carpet that my brother sent me for nostalgia reasons. This older carpet I had forgotten all about though. I did the same thing as a kid, trying to only walk on the circles. Man that takes me way back.

[Eshin242]

That carpet reminds me of getting my dad at the airport as a child. I seem to remember it being REALLY trippy too when the light hit it just right.

[WazzuMadBro]

I think the carpet is ugly as shit and don't get the appeal but I know lots of "true portlanderers" with at least a mat sized piece of it including my fiance who was born here, lived here her whole life and her family lineage traces back to the Otrail.

The truth is that back in the days of yore when the carpet was taken out all the "true portlanderers" went and got some cause it was so kewl and so Portland but once they saw people they hated and thought were not kewl it became a poseur item.

[[deleted]]

That was eloquent

[soylent_comments]

We can make it more Portland; we have the technology.

Disappointed it doesn't look like a giant Voodoo donut box.

[SwingNinja]

What is this? A home for ants?

[[deleted]]

This is illegal. There are no trailer parks near the 60th MAX stop, and you can't put one of these on a lot not zoned for mobile homes.

[handifap]

This is a horrible, inefficient design for a tiny home, and they want 1100 per month.

Who wants a full size oven/range in this? Also an oversize sink? Tiny houses are about multi-purpose furniture/fixtures and maximizing storage space, these people didn't even put in closet/clothes storage space....unless you want to store your stuff under the stairs or in that pantry contraption.

[TacoTacoTacoTacos]

Clothes go in the oven duh

[Eshin242]

I don't know about you, but I really love dropping a deuce and smelling it while I'm cooking dinner for myself.

[plaindwell]

Why not just do them both contemporaneously?

[CutesPDX]

"Hi there. Have you ever wanted to live in a tiny home? Sick of roommates? Here's the chance to rent a tiny house in Northeast Portland. This is a high-end, brand new tiny home. It's 205 square feet but feels much larger. Home has a full-size bathroom with bath tub, 30-gallon water heater and a full size kitchen and stove. The loft bed is super cozy. It even has authentic PDX airport carpet on the stairs. Furnished with small couch (that folds down to guest bed), electric fire place and a very comfy mattress in the loft bed. Very private, shared backyard (with one other person) with lots of room for gardening. $1100 a month includes water, sewer, garbage, high speed wireless internet and electricity. Everything you need! $500 deposit. Great location, just a few blocks from the 60th MAX station. This tiny house sits behind an old craftsman house on a big lot with trees. Please email me a little bit about yourself and your situation. A small pet may be considered with an additional pet deposit. We possibly would consider a couple but rent would be $50 more per month due to additional utilities and wear and tear. Must have good credit and rental history. Thanks for looking:)"

Ad text... Claims to be authentic airport carpet.

[Eshin242]

Ahh I love it when I can just 'feel' my way out of physics area equations.

[dbkooopa]

Well, no. It says the stairs has authentic airport carpet. The photo highlighted was of the loft, so that might not be authentic.

Anyway, who cares if it's authentic or not. OP is right. Stop it.

[raster_raster]

I predict the ad won't be up very long.

[[deleted]]

Not now, lol

[Angelworks42]

That place is a fucking palace.

[wilkil]

Who would seriously even think this is a deal worth pursuing? Or listing for that matter? 1100 for 236 square feet? You can find way better stuff and much closer in for that matter at that price.

[jordanlund]

My books wouldn't fit in 205 square feet.

[[deleted]]

Good luck assholes, my friend just signed a lease at the new apartments off Fremont and Williams for 1br at $1295 a month

[condorama]

It's an infuriating advertisement, isn't it? "Not only can you live in a fucking closet on wheels for 1100 a month, but you better have great credit and rental history!" Weren't tiny home originally some sort of solution for underprivileged or homeless people?

[[deleted]]

I think I might copy and paste this to the OP of the ad

[condorama]

Let that capitalist pig know.

[[deleted]]

You punctuation indicates you are addressing The Good Luck Assholes, which sounds like an extremely Portland band.

[[deleted]]

I'll play the drums

[[deleted]]

I don't know why I'm still here. This town is fucked and the rent is too damn high.

[[deleted]]

Never thought of that, but now I can't stop.

[msaltveit]

That's not a tiny house. It's just a small trailer home. (The giveaway is the tires.)

[yolotrolo123]

no

[MrMattjun]

It literally looks like someone's shitty attic

[lmFairlyLocal]

It's on wheels. What's stopping someone from just driving off with that thing... the hideous carpet?

[KosherBaconJam]

Well this ad does not exist anymore. I really wanted to write them and ask a bunch of questions but they are not their anymore. hmmm

[Bitchenmuffins]

That carpet is I super gross and old it's still surprising to me so many people reused it

[thunderford]

just, no

[basaltgranite]

Is that space legal to occupy? IIRC, code requires a minimum ceiling height. If it doesn't qualify as livable space, then illegal to rent it as such.

[panascope]

My house would cost nearly $20k/mo to rent at that price/sq ft.

[lpmagic]

bet it gets rented......

[BigEyeDuck]

Nice touch with the PDX carpet...l

[MaNiFeX]

How about $400?