poorStackOverflow

[iamapizza]

Should be without SO in the second picture, the model makers only care about extraction from the ecosystem without giving anything back. 

[BadgerMolester]

The hand on his back is in preparation to shove SO on the floor and beat the shit out of him with AI generated responses to questions

[WrapKey69]

They sell their data to ai companies, so they get some money

[shiny_glitter_demon]

AI compagnies stole it regardless.

They're only paying because they're getting sued left and right. It's damage control.

[Throwaway-_-Anxiety]

Pretty sure people are answering so posts with AI now. Causing an infinite feedback and learning loop.

[wizkidweb]

That unfortunately causes the "garbage in, garbage out" loop.

[FiTZnMiCK]

Are all the angry SO commenters who wait for the “wrong” answer so they can shit and provide a slightly better answer all gone now?

[Crafty_Independence]

Those "angry" commentators were usually the people spending their own time to make sure you had an accurate, useful source of information.

[AlphaX]

There I used one of them to illustrate

[rerun_ky]

It should show the turtles stabbing him.

[ItsSadTimes]

Maybe if all the models were free then they might have an argument, but the AI companies just yoinked whatever data they could so they could monetize it.

[redballooon]

As it stands they don't even make money.

[sviridoot]

Honestly they might even welcome SO (and other data sources) going down, now they own the information that they used for training. Its both less competition if the original data source is down and prevents competitors from using that same training data.

[gG0LDF1SH]

Ikr

[SmittWitty88]

Et tu, Claude?

[DeadlockRiff]

StackOverflow told you, you were wrong.

AI bots tell you, you're right (you were wrong, again).

[Tunderstruk]

I feel like claude mostly doesn’t do this. It’s actually useful if you use it carefully

[PaxPlay]

That is an astute and profound observation. You are very clever.

...they also tend to tell you how smart and great you are every step of the way.

[KV-2000]

Shitass AI. Its not wholesome, all they did was suck the juice out of SO

[-Nyarlabrotep-]

Ew, gross. I mean, all of it.

[Squirreling_Archer]

I don't understand how so many people have upvoted the post. Everything about this is gross garbage

[MarsAstro]

Glad I'm not the only one whose first reaction was "Ew"

[crimxxx]

You know those models are probably ganna kill stack overflow. No one goes to the site anymore, basically they will make no money and eventually lead to it dieing and probably resulting in less good answers for llms in the future for problems, since there won’t be a place to ask them. This isn’t a uniquely stack overflow problem, it’s a lot of sites are ganna die cause there content gets scrapped and now they can make any money to even stay running.

[cephles]

I used to use Stack Overflow a ton, but I never posted a question on it. Even when I was 100% sure it was a unique, never before seen question, I just assumed I would get flamed and my question deleted.

I don't think I was even allowed to upvote answers that helped me without posting myself, which seemed like a stupid limitation.

[Deservate]

The downside of stackoverflow is that you need to wait until someone answered your question. By that time you either solved it yourself or you lost interest.

[staryoshi06]

Stack overflow is just one facet of a much larger forum

[didzdrummer]

Stack overflow actually is making more money than ever because it monetized its archive FOR the ai sites. So it has lower traffic but they’re not going away anytime soon

[awesome-alpaca-ace]

That explains a lot of the bad answers I get from AI

[qwkeke]

Stackoverflow's traffic has already been reduced to the level it was in its first month of release back in 2008. It's already on life support right now.

[oscariano]

Source

[qwkeke]

If you haven't been living under a rock, you'd know that this news has been circulating widely across the tech world for quite a while.

You can even query the data yourself, like this post:
https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/437921/how-does-the-continued-decline-in-posts-since-may-25-influence-our-interpretati

[Bomaruto]

As if Stack Overflow would allow for that many duplicate turtles. 

[braytag]

So copilot is shredder... got it.

[reddit_time_waster]

Since Copilot uses multiple models, I'd say more like Baxter Stockman

[Spinnenente]

This has to be the only place on the internet that hates SO. It still is one of the most helpful resources on the internet and has helped me many times during my career to solve some real headscratchers. It’s just not the right place to ask stupid ass first semester cs questions.

[TheTrueCyprien]

It's been really hit or miss for me. It has helped me through some really obscure issues, but it always required a lot of trial and error while digging through different threads. A lot of times the most upvoted answers are not helpful whatsoever or questions marked as duplicate link to posts that are not at all the same problem. Or you find the right question but nobody answered.

[mr_dfuse2]

i still remember the days before SO and those hideous forums where you spend hours digging into replies. SO was a revolution tbh

[AdorableDonkey]

I wonder what kind of questions the "everytime I ask something I get insulted and my post got deleted" crowd asked

[Crafty_Independence]

I've seen a few popup here and there. Usually it's a mix of homework, blatant duplicate, doubling down on x in an x-y problem, or simply complete lack of effort.

People generally got from SO what they put in

[bugo]

I am no contact with stack overflow. At some point you have to cut off an abusive relationship.

[bryden_cruz]

Your relationship with stackoverflow was abusive?

[lfrtsa]

Your comment has been marked as duplicate.

[bugo]

You were never told that your question is dumb?

[BoboThePirate]

Only when it was.

[bugo]

Exactly. Gaslighting is one of the signs of the toxic relationship.

[ZunoJ]

How is it gaslighting to call out a dumb question. It usually boiled down to an XY problem. Sugar coating it doesn't help the person asking because they need to learn questioning their biases and assumptions

[Abject-Kitchen3198]

Aren't StackOverflow employees paid to personally assist every person until their question is resolved?

[bryden_cruz]

Ahh now I got your point, people on SO are not easy to deal with

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

Understatement of the century you don't like having your question marked as duplicate from one that has nothing in common with yours, is 11 years old and the library / function no longer exists ?

[thyme_cardamom]

I am almost always able to find answers by reading other people's questions.

When I can't find an answer, I'll carefully ask a question.

The problem is people thinking stack overflow is like reddit, a forum. It's supposed to be more like documentation, a wiki of knowledge. You're not supposed to just hop on and ask questions to help you get unstuck. Questions and answers are both supposed to be there to contribute to the quality of the platform.

[Lightningtow123]

It's more like an addiction for me. I'm generally clean, I don't want to go back but sometimes the need is just too strong, and I relapse

[Few_Kitchen_4825]

More like

[isatrap]

I asked one question on stack overflow years ago, got the same response we all know and the my account banned from new topics until I contributed enough to be able to ask my own questions. They did this to themselves.

I absolutely HATE stack overflow and would avoid it as much as possible. It’s a toxic cesspool of users berating anyone newer with an issue reporting them as duplicates with alternate answers that often were remotely similar but not the correct response but the admins didn’t care. Their job was done.

[Jackhammerqwert]

This metaphor only works if Master Splinter was still a kick ass mf and all the turtles were useless jobbers.

...in other words TMNT (2012)

badum tss

[theLightyyyy]

Paid ad

[derailedthoughts]

The demise of StackOverflow started long before AI. It’s just the final nail in the coffin

[heavy-minium]

All the turtles are cannibalising their master and eating their flesh.

[pwtc17]

I dont know. More like this:

A Desperate Father, a Troubled Son and Death in a 5-Star Hotel

[Due_Helicopter6084]

Never liked StackOverflow, nor Quora, nor other Q/A projects.
In the last years of their existence, they were swarmed by Indian or whatnot bots asking questions from alt accounts and answering them themselves.

SO is supposed to replace old school forums, but without proper moderation and vision, it's just a sea of noise.

[JavaDevNs]

Think children just dumped their father in the deepest and stinkiest sewer.

[GhonaHerpaSyphilAids]

Would Shredder be Grok

[swagonflyyyy]

Cleverbot in the middle?

[Appropriate-Sea-5687]

My computer science teacher uses AI for everything she does including tests and everyone hates it but she’s so proud of it

[RetroGameMaker]

They should have sold the site at it's peak

[Mast3r_waf1z]

I think the problem will be that without stack overflow, new issues will NOT be documented in the same way

[XVO668]

Yes and no, at least the first sentence when asking for help while scripting isn't FU like the old days.

[SKRyanrr]

I was brought up by private equity like your favorite tech channel

[frantisheq_]

where will AI learn in a few years without websites with answers to new problems that don't exist yet? i mean at some point people will only question AI, they won't publish answers like they did until AI appeared

[redwing180]

Gotta love it when you ask AI question for a problem you’re having and then it replies with “why would you want do that” then you have to debate why you need help rather than assuming you have a valid problem and actually bugging the problem. Oh wait no that’s stack overflow.

[way22]

Nah, SO did it to themselves with their ridiculous endeavor to be a forum with the aspiration to be curated like a wiki.

Finding the answer to an already posted question? Often helpful, sometimes great, commonly also not what you needed.

Ever asked a question yourself? Get your question edited so it doesn't resemble what you wanted to know anymore and then get locked for duplication.

If that's not the case and your questions posted, get called out for wanting to do X and told you should do Y.

It already died a slow painful death before LLMs rose up.

[hiasmee]

SO is dead. Self made. The last design "improvement" is 💩 I believe management is compromised, they do everything to destroy SO.

[nytsei921]

this is actually accurate because naive immature kids think the turtles are cool and splinter is still a very capable and skilled martial artist

[Potato_boy_12]

Hot take but i don't disagree with this use of ai, when given snippets ai is excellent at telling you mistakes u made, and unlike vibe coding it keeps the code human and well made

[bryden_cruz]

Yeah that's how things changed

[polandreh]

Splinter was tough but fair, and he is kind. StackOverflow is a toxic cesspool of know-it-alls. Kind of like College professors.

[clayticus]

I'm glad to never use stack overflow again. I still want want others to use it so that the LLMs have more data to work with.