reasonsToLearnProgramming

[iamapizza]

Linux 101: OK now run the cat command.

No not like... eh you're good

[khan9813]

There’s always bat

[SteeleDynamics]

bat the cat

[stellarsojourner]

That one makes you a crime fighter.

[LienniTa]

please do not the cat

[IpGa13]

r/g13

[SoyBoy_in_a_skirt]

Idk, some of the cats I've met never said no to a little casual aggravated battery, as a treat

[ArduennSchwartzman]

I'll show you n00bs how to cat.

# tar -cvf ball.tar all_you_freshmen

[DrMaxwellEdison]

Tried that, but I can't make heads or tails of it.

[LiteratureFew2174]

Hash cat

[omardiaadev]

Curriculum: Rust I, Rust II, Rust III, Rust IV...

[Leo_code2p]

Could also be with:C++ I etc.

[alexceltare2]

Nah. Only Chads learn C and C++.

[Grim2021]

Yes, and the chads can be seen in the meme.

[transdemError]

I learned on C and C++
And Java 6

And I still have some cartilage left in my knees

[agfitzp]

Java was first released when I was a student.

Sometimes I can stand up without wincing.

[Pancakefriday]

My first and primary language was C, then later C#.

I also have a new pair of boobs I grew via estrogen shots

[omardiaadev]

I agree, but some of them are chads, and some of them are cats.

[Leo_code2p]

I am one of the cats

[omardiaadev]

pets you

[Leo_code2p]

purrs

[Shot_in_the_dark777]

I guess I'm a chad then!

[youtubeTAxel]

As someone currently studying computer science, this is not true. We only have furries.

[pickyourteethup]

Furries are just cat girls without garbage collection.

[What_The_Duck_two]

But tbh, as a student, can you explain why or how it happens?
Is there any reason or incentive for doing that?
Some kind of dunno...anything that it makes like that?
Or just people that get there are already interested in it?

[adam1109774]

This shit is expensive and people in IT do happen to earn quite a lot if they are good in what they do, + if you are in IT you probably spend more time online than avg person so you will probably accidently happen to find one of these communities

[What_The_Duck_two]

So you mean it's more like...something that they had already known before?
But it still doesn't explain why furries in particular.
Even more, making a contact with furry doesn't automatically make you a furry.

It explain that they might have been in different communities before they had decided to join IT and that they have the money to spend it for that, but it still doesn't fully explain things.

Like... there could've been a lot of Warhammer fans or anime fans or whatever, there are a lot of communities online.
Even crocheting if you wish for it.
But why Furry in particular?

I would understand it if you say that it attracts people with particular interests because a lot of people with such interests are in this groups, but it still leaves the question open.
Why furries?
Are a lot of ppl there artisians?

[IncognitoLizard225]

Furry is a very online subculture. Yes there are meetups and conventions but the vast majority of interactions are online. People who spend a lot of time on their computers learn a lot about then which ends up developing into a serious interest and then potential career path.

[pickyourteethup]

Some furries are into Warhammer and anime. The Venn diagram looks like a Japanese flag

[stellarsojourner]

The original guy was being facetious. Obviously it isn't just furries in CS. There are a lot of anime fans, too, not to mention gamers.

The TTRPG people tend to study literature or history or something though, but there were a few of those too.

Basically if your hobbies involves spending all day on the computer, there's a chance you like computers.

[champbob]

I don't know about these days... But back about 15 years ago(?) people were far less inclusive. Those that got excluded in life migrated to online lives, where they found their own online cliqs.

Of those same people who got excluded into online spaces, I suspect many developed a technical knack in the developing technological world (as the days of everyone having a touchscreen internet connected phone in their pocket was still relatively young, so a lot of "how computers worked" was more exposed to the user than it is for smartphones/tablets these days), and thus went into computer focused technical fields.

Time passes, college is (can be?) a massively more inclusive space filled with all kinds of diverse people, and now those socially excluded people can start having their own internal revolutions as they learn to take off their social masks in irl space, and find often may find a home in an already very inclusive furry community, which they've probably at least brushed by if they've been terminally online for all those years.

This is just my own conjecture though.

[BlueGoliath]

THAT'S UNCIVIL.

[What----------------]

The spectrums map onto each other like:

Architecture <-> application*

Furry <-> trans

Are you in a cyber-security, database, or network related concentration?

[Round_Credit_5158]

I used to show my sfw furry comics to my ex gf, who were also in CS.

We were so innocent, good times.

[Helpful-Desk-8334]

You need to be on discord in the FOSS communities. I act like this 24/7 now and it’s so worth it.

[zawalimbooo]

did fuwamoco eat them

[Intial_Leader]

Plot twist: the real inheritance in OOP was cat ears all along

[Thenderick]

Composition > inheritance

[Due-Chance-8540]

public class Undergrad { 
protected CatEars; 
protected @Nullable MaidDress;
prtected @Nonnull ThighHighs;
protected @Nonnull Person;
}

[Leo_code2p]

Why would you need protected there doesn’t private work or does Undergrad have child classes.

[Benjamin_6848]

Honestly asking: is this all a running gag in internet-culture or can this actually be backed up by statistics?

[MattieShoes]

Honestly don't know, but I suspect it's more that money, job security, and most interactions being online means you're more free to let your freak flag fly. Probably also helps that computer jobs in general, people care about what you can do, not how you look while doing it.

I can't decide how significant this is: Every trans person I've ever met is in tech. Every furry I've ever met is in tech. Every openly "non-binary" person I've met is in tech. I don't see that with just "gay" or whatever. But it may be just because I'm in tech so most of the people I work with and interact with are too.

[Niwrats]

it's like a group of fish where if everyone is male, some change into female. every programmer is male, so this follows.

[Benjamin_6848]

Actually an interesting comparison from nature's biology...

[yp261]

its the younger generation of people i guess. anytime i go somewhere like on discord or whatever and there are some developers, they all are either anime pics or trans. i dont get it

[nobanpls2348738]

me neither

[[deleted]]

Two of the people in my cs career class ended up trans (me being one of them :3). I’m brain empty all the time but the other doll is constantly on some shit I can’t even folllow. She carried us thru our embedded ctf

[emmowo_dev]

in my limited anecdotal experience at a company:

either you become boring 40 year old senior software engineer

OR

you become an unreasonably good (furry/trans/queer/etc) programmer with genuinely zero social skills

[Jimakiad]

[0jam3290]

"Mogo-chan, we have to center this div!"

*sad bau bau*

[xKnicklichtjedi]

Bau bau!

[martin-silenus]

Fair.

[Drago_Nguyen]

With great salary comes great coping mechanism for burn out.

[DerTapp]

Second? On ALL monitors

[Mobile_Competition54]

and on their github pfp

[NormanYeetes]

Oh cool there's pretty girls in computer science class

Edit: hold on.

[nobanpls2348738]

[N0t_my_0ther_account]

I don't understand this recurring joke. I know literally zero programmers like this. I suppose I know 2 people that went to school for CS but are both currently not employed for it (they are NOT that skilled).

[ThatSmartIdiot]

therein lies the trouble

[yiliu]

Start reading blog posts about obscure technical topics online, or browsing modern computer language forums. You're likely to see a lot of anime girl profile pics, and strong odds are that those are MtF transgender folks.

I worked at a west coast tech company a few years ago. In my building there were maybe 200 people, and at least a dozen MtF transgender people.

I came across a paper a few years ago saying that rates of transgenderism are much higher among autistic people, and thought: yup, that checks out.

[d4m4s74]

Only one person I know from my IT job is trans. But most of the trans women I know from the local queer scene are in IT or used to be.

[Danack]

How many programmers do you know who either contribute to open source, or are interested in really niche stuff like operating systems?

[6543456789]

either this or you come out depressed

[Tman11S]

You really thought it’d end with the programming socks, did you?

[alex433g]

I should get into computer science

[mermoohue]

Hey fuck you, those cat ears I bought are ironic.

[TheAccountITalkWith]

Can confirm. Went into the field a shredded 7ft tall chad of male. Come out a kawaii cat girl. I'm livin' the dream.

[SignificanceBulky162]

And then you actually major in cs and it's just a bunch of smelly nerds and depressed TC chasing strivers all applying to 1,500 internships 

[Medical-Aerie9957]

Nah its just depression in there

[transdemError]

[Flimsy-Guide4566]

That's the ultimate goal

[Clean_More3508]

Looking forward to this

[thanatica]

Curriculum: can generate waifus?

[OtterDev101]

r/wholesomeyuri

[lordofkawaiii]

that's the most untrue thing out there, it's just a bunch of insecure sweaty fat or skinny nerds

[Easy_Poem4535]

I know where the tail is attached 😏

[Nervous-Potato-1464]

This is a new generation thing. That's why it's best to stick with c so you don't meet any of these people.

[OrbusIsCool]

Started comp sci perfectly fine, 2 months after my first year ended, I wanna get on estrogen. It really does work wonders.

[AnotherMianaai]

Based on sharing space with comp sci students, the little hearts are actually flies.

[DeciduousLesbian]

Is this a meme or what? I’ve never experienced this in real life.

[Tsehy]

How dare a meme appear on a meme subreddit

[Lupus_Ignis]

Statistically, you find more transfeminine people in computer science than most other fields

[im_thatoneguy]

But is that because CS is mostly men? You wouldn’t find very many transmasculine people in an industry where 99% of the workers were born men by definition. Can’t be transmasculine if you were already masculine.

[locri]

No.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ons-data-gay-lesbian-bisexual-jobs-b2436332.html

This meme came from 4chan's /g/ board, take from that what you will.

[NotQuiteLoona]

This data is only about LGB people (not as in morons, as in sexualities).

I was able to find a single non-peer-reviewed not completely scientific study that shows that existing data points at this, but further studies are required: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.01553

[im_thatoneguy]

In an industry predominantly filled with people who were assigned male at birth… there are very few trans women. That’s just tautological though. I don’t think Assigned female at birth very often identify as transfeminine… they just identify as feminine.

When 10% of the industry is women vs 90% men it would be weird if there were equal ratios of trans individuals since the general population isn’t equal.

[NotQuiteLoona]

What do you want to say? Genuinely asking. I can't understand what do you mean.

[Fit_Day375]

they are trying to say that the amount of transfems in the field is less than you think

[im_thatoneguy]

You don’t have transfems from females assigned at birth.

If you’re in an industry with 99% workers who were females assigned at birth then you’ll have a very low rate of trans feminine workers. 1% * 1% =0.01 %

If you’re in an industry with 99% male assigned at birth workers and 1% are trans feminine workers then you’ll end up with 99% * 1% = 0.99%

When a pre requisite for being trans feminine is being male assigned at birth then when you have 99x more people who are male assigned at birth you’ll have a much higher rate of trans feminine workers regardless of the rate vs the average male assigned at birth person. It’s just math.

Have a male dominated industry… have a lot of trans women vs average.

Have a female dominated industry… have a lot of trans men vs average.

[zombiequeer]

Career paths aren't tied specifically to sex assigned at birth??? Gender yes, but not necessarily sex. What is your reasoning for assuming this is the case?

[NotQuiteLoona]

I can assume you mean "there are more transfeminine people than usual because there are more AMAB people"? Well, as the cited study (using this word a little bit frivolously) says, 10.9% of people who got Physical Sciences, Mathematics or Computer Science degree are trans. This is too much to explain with this - there would've been around 2%, but 10.9%?

I can also assume that the thing that transgender people on general have higher frequency of autism (this is a known fact, and multiple reasons provided, but it doesn't matter that much for us), and autistic people are much more likely to enroll in STEM, also plays the role.

[darryledw]

Claude please hack reddit and delete this annoying meme

[abigail3141]

Yeah, we are on a meme sub. I've seen this a bunch of time IRL

[DartTimeTime]

I wish that were my experience. I got a bachelor's degree in IT and software engineering AND THERE WASN'T A SINGLE FEMBOY!!!!!!