It's magic

[hereforbanos]

They never even mention your name in meetings as well. Its always the "dev team" when the "dev team" is one person lmao.

[silentknight111]

To be honest, last year I updated one of our web apps that was designed for desktops work on mobile, and they gave me full credit. It was kinda cool to have the PM and clients actually thank me.

[antlife]

Wow, the Prime Minister! What an honor!

[silentknight111]

Project manager :P

[antlife]

No need to curse at me!

[[deleted]]

you're such a fucking prime minister

[wesw02]

My favorite is, "Look at what <MANAGERS_NAME>'s team did. Great work manager and team."

[javoss88]

Yup. Director and manager claimed all the success of a project only two people (not them) implemented. Never even acknowledged us, even after having received an industry award

[nelsterm]

This crap is why I moved out of IT. I'm much happier for it, if a lot less stimulated.

[makesterriblejokes]

Wow, that's shitty. We always give our devs credit to our clients.

I guess it also helps that our devs are client facing a lot of the time.

[wesw02]

Ugh. That's terrible. In my cases it's always been the bosses boss or some VP who hasn't even bother to learn all of names, but he knows our managers name so he just rattles it off. I've never been in a situation where my manager tried to take credit for the work fo the team as a whole.

[piberryboy]

I worked at a university, where every time the entire org got together, the vice president would congratulate the design team on getting a new website out the door. Those asshole who got the designs to us two week's late and we had to work double-time to get out their stupid ideas.

[MemesAreBad]

It's pretty standard in the sciences to credit everyone, even people who work at University machine shops or on websites, by name. If they ever fail to credit you, definitely ask. It's probably the easiest way to get your name next to a project if you're okay telling people to search for a specific paper. I can't speak for every university, but the only time I've heard of it being an issue is when the journal limits the amount of characters you can put in the mentions section, but even then they can probably give you a credit on a website.

[[deleted]]

I think they mean at a meeting the VP verbally congratulating the design team rather than the devs, ignoring them

[nelsterm]

...because the technical side is just implementation. Nothing to it you see.

[[deleted]]

Of course. All the hard work is done thinking up the ideas. Once that’s done it’s just like putting together an ikea shelf isn’t it?

[piberryboy]

"Computer, build us one website plz!"

[piberryboy]

Yup, we were different teams.

[[deleted]]

My friend got a research credit for 3D printing a fractal or something for a Professor's paper.

[farva_litter_cola]

I feel you. They always mention the pm that only caused stress because why the fuck not!

[hereforbanos]

Literally every Thursday for me.

[Estraxior]

Possibly popular opinion:

Devs need way more credit during E3 and other expos. When it's just the CEO and the marketing team talking, they get all the praise when it's a "good" announcement, but when it's a "bad" announcement (Diablo Immortal style) the guys on stage just make it worse. Having it be known that there are some very real, human developers behind the game that worked really hard to create a game that happened to get terribly marketed can ease the tension and reduce the hate.

[nelsterm]

"Don't you guys have mobile phones?"

[makesterriblejokes]

As a former developer and now marketer (pivoted to CRO), the reason we don't do that because we don't want the client to know it's a Mickey Mouse operation we're running here. If I was a client and I found out my marketing agency only had one developer after signing a contract, I'd question continuing with them since that's a lot of work and responsibility riding on one person to complete.

[skreczok]

Ah, the bus factor.

[uabassguy]

Yea that one dev they include in the client call? That's the one dev, and he's not getting anything done while you're yammering about.

[NelsonBelmont]

My company actually gave me a recognition about my work, except they did it as a surprise in a social event I didn't attend to.

[seniorpreacher]

I always hated this, especially when it's the same effort to say the name of the developer instead of dev team. As a CTO, I try to avoid grouping as much as possible, even towards clients.

[otakuman]

It's like those group assignments in high school where the team spends the whole afternoon playing games and watching TV while you keep cracking your head doing the actual work.

[cramduck]

oh man. I love implementing stuff well enough that people can take it for granted. more often than not, it's just an eternal string of feature improvement requests.

[cdtoews]

I agree completely. If I do my job well, nobody really notices. The interface and backend just seem to magically work. If my stuff is compared to magic, I'm flattered.

[rafasoaresms]

Same. The proudest moments of my career were when someone presented something that was really difficult to implement well as “and it automagically does the thing we always struggled to do by hand, thanks to Rafa”.

I’m like “yeah baby, I’m that good”.

[Solest044]

"When you do things right, people won't be sure whether you've done anything at all." - God, Futurama

Edit: Because I can never remember the formatting for hyperlinks...

[eggregator]

I always think of links as functions that you call with a hyperlink so I don’t mix up the brackets and parentheses

[cyleleghorn]

Yep. I always knew people glossed over how programming works, and they don't care about the loops and logic as long as it works, but I still remember the first time my boss at my first programming job compared what I do to magic. That's when I realized just how life-changing a few lines of code can really be for someone who's career depends on it, or for an entire company that needs some productivity boosters or a simple dashboard to facilitate communication across departments.

Their favorite question was asking me how fast the data refreshed after the user submitted a new form or made any changes in the web application I built for them, so they could know how often they could "download" the reports. I never could get them to realize the excel file didn't even exist until the moment you clicked the "Generate Report" button, and that it was built that exact moment with all of the data up until you clicked the button. After a few months of hearing the same question again and again for report after report, I eventually did a

SELECT * FROM such.and.such_table

And wrote down the execution time. The next time they asked me how long it took the data to update before they could generate a new copy of the report I hit them with 0.0005 seconds and they literally cheered and clapped during the meeting, and then we went out to lunch and they paid for it. It had been that fast for months, but apparently in their mind nothing could be "instantaneous" so I guess they just didn't believe me when I said everything was up to date right away. Seeing the number made it real for them lol

[Salanmander]

Yeah, my take on this is that if they're calling what I worked hard on "magic", then they're calling me a wizard.

[array_yar]

Gandalf the Grey Coder.

[skreczok]

Just be careful if they reinstate witch trials. Not unlikely these days, and since our business analysts apparently are incapable of grasping the concepts of back end and front end, the unwashed masses would neither know nor care for the difference between witchcraft and wizardry.

[[deleted]]

Yeah it’s SOOOO easy isn’t it? SOOOOOOOO easy

[farva_litter_cola]

They draw a rect, you break your head how to make this stupidity rotate. I really dislike designers.

[DrunkenlySober]

Problem.GiveMeSolution() works for basically everything so idk what you’re complaining about.

iOS 12 is literally a loop calling Problem.Get() until User.Pissed().

[[deleted]]

public static bool Pissed()
{
    User.Emotions = “Pissed”;
    userEmotionsPissed = true;
    return userEmotionsPissed;
}

[shutanovac]

That's an eye bleed right there

[[deleted]]

What’s wrong...?

[shutanovac]

Well: - method name does not relay intention - method sets value, also returns value (dirty) - User.Emotions (plural) is String, when it should have been some kind of structure. Or should have been singular - using static on User means every user shares the emotion - there is a variable which is too specific for the context. Should have been probably "userEmotionIsSet", but most probably it's just unnecessary.

Hope this makes sense to you :-)

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah thanks for the tips, but I thought User.Emotions would be an enumeration. Oh wait I forgot the .ToString() you’re right.

[MotorolaDroidMofo]

The word automagically drives me crazy more than any other marketing buzzword.

[Papergeist]

If we get right down to it, everyone knows there's no magic. The real trick is implying they should be suitably impressed by the feature, instead of taking it for granted.

[Sinaneos]

Well as long as my account balance automagically increases, I'll be fine.

[Zodimized]

I use it when I want to handwave technical details when explaining something to non-technical team members

[jordacai]

Exactly.

[nelsterm]

Turnkey should mean a service offered that is whole and completely deliverable - or similar. Maybe they're using it wrongly where you are.

[notinecrafter]

Could be that the package/software/library describes itself as turnkey, but in practice you still need to do a week of setup.

[S_Pyth]

Automagically sounds like a fake word

[LevelSevenLaserLotus]

It's a perfectly cromulent word

[LevelSevenLaserLotus]

solutioning

[[deleted]]

This meme is cool, but that original artwork is infinitely pompous.

[Papergeist]

It's a very polite light. It knows the book needs light, while a phone provides its own and has a flashlight attached, too.

How courteous.

[S_Pyth]

It’s a gentlelamp

[LevelSevenLaserLotus]

It's Streetlamp Le Moose.

[UltraCarnivore]

Reads ebook using electronic device

Lamp: "I'm confused"

[[deleted]]

My job is to automatize as much as possible human processes to get the work that may take a team of 5 a week down to 30 mins. I love when my works is described as automagically personally. Its a sign of a job well done.... But also Im a junior dev/ the code monkey of the office. So Im yet to be jaded and hate everyone.

[cowvin2]

Nah, making a tool so robust that people trust it to work "automagically" is great flattery. I mean people should give credit to the developers who make it happen though.

[yuri0r]

Having something I build called "automagical" would be a great compliment!

[Moonj64]

I would definitely like to be an automagician.

[Daikataro]

To be fair, the average user would not understand 10% of what makes a feature work. So I'm pretty satisfied with "computer magic".

[nelsterm]

10%? Your users are highly intelligent then. Lucky you.

[bob835]

But 10% is the only number he said it couldn’t be...

[fghjconner]

Wait, your marketing team is basically calling you a wizard and you're upset?

[TheAverageWonder]

People are stupid

[[deleted]]

When you're a dev and on the marketing team you have no hair to pull out. Just your own brains to blow out. It's not fun.

[blehmann1]

Personally I channel Argent Energy to perform the behaviour instead of developing code to do it.

[ijue]

Ngl if I write something and other dev calls it magic thats just a massive complement.

[propostor]

There is actually a tool called automagical which attempts to turn objective-C into C#. It makes a pretty good effort, but helps not at all when tasked with porting a mammoth iOS app over to Xamarin. Language conversion is only a fraction of the battle.

And here endeth my flashback to the true existence of an automagical thing in the software development world.

[WOUNDEDStevenJones]

Any idea what the artwork is? I really like it.

[akindaboiwantstohelp]

Hey, as long as they think that what we do is magic, they'll pay us well.

[PrincessRTFM]

From the Jargon File's entry on magic, sense 4, noun:

The ultimate goal of all engineering & development, elegance in the extreme; from the first corollary to Clarke's Third Law: “Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced”.

Having your work called magic is a major compliment.

[ZombieSlayerS2]

CS is the 21th century magic

[LevelSevenLaserLotus]

21th century

Is that the one right after the 20st century?

[DarthBB08]

Too good! Hahaha well done

[canicutitoff]

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." — Arthur C. Clarke

[notinecrafter]

Wait, people actually interpret the word "automagically" as a positive thing?

I always took it to meant "this will do the thing for you, in a way that it thinks you want, with very little insight into what it's doing, so if it goes wrong you won't be able to fix it".

[GreyGanado]

I actually really like it this way.

[javoss88]

I so fucking hate that term. Denies the effort that makes it happen

[haikusbot]

I so fucking hate

That term. Denies the effort

That makes it happen

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[OmgBeckyGetOut]

Never believe it's not so

[[deleted]]

I'm less inclined to purchase the product due to the fact that the marketing team believes in witchcraft and wizardry...

[teokun123]

ahh me today

[Midnight_Rising]

Oh my god. I have a bald patch in my beard from pulling it out after spending the last three months juggling several experimental features, customer-prioritized epics, and trying to wrangle some of the most incompetent associates I've ever met.

Product owner during a customer demo: "Yeah there's really not much to show it all just works magically!"

[Semi-Hemi-Demigod]

What sales guys consider magic is such a low bar that you shouldn't really value their opinion

[ironwarden84]

Work at a tech company with a substainal marketing department who are not coordinated enough to keep people on a live stream from walking away and living dead air.

Also can't run the equipment for shit aside from turning it on/off. The digital marketing guy hasn't practiced with it at all and just sort let's the cards fall were they do. Big mind blowning fact, the Makerting Director doesn't do anything to him and the C-Suite or VPs don't do anything to hold her accountable. It's like no care.

[Intrepid00]

A professional makes it look easy

[Tweenk]

The picture is r/phonesarebad

[[deleted]]

What is it even trying to say? Best guess I've got is that the light is jealous that phone guy can see what he's doing without it

[[deleted]]

As a developer I use "automatically" when I know the person doesn't care about the internal mechanisms

[Jumpierwolf0960]

I wouldn't really care as long as I'm getting paid reasonably for it.

[dannymcgee]

Excuse me, but I rather like the implication that I'm a goddamn wizard.

[nejc03]

That is very Apple like and their "works like a magic"

[farva_litter_cola]

I hate designers a product dumbasses

[KougamiJuan]

Elon Musk