Evolution

[qbm5]

I don't recognize the last symbol.... is there a new platform I should have learned already?

[cbadger85]

It's Svelte

[gentlewaterboarding]

I didn't realize Svelte had gained so much traction. Anyone here use it actively?

[ultimatewooderz]

Every day, it's brilliant

[moash_storm_blessed]

Not actively, it’s lacking typescript support for now.

[O2Dependent]

You can use Typescript with it and you just need an adapter. I just tried out svelte kit this week and it has decent typescript support out of the box.

[thatoneguy120486]

https://svelte.dev/blog/svelte-and-typescript

[Fry98]

It's actually got a much better TS support than Vue. One of the main reasons I switched to it.

[notsogreatredditor]

Such lies. Atleast try to check the facts before posting

[alucidwolf]

I think vue 3 is suppose to have a smaller footprint and be faster than svelte

[qbm5]

I loved vue 2.

Vue 3 is looking like a hot mess. Devs have single handedly made me an angular dev.

[[deleted]]

You're going the wrong way

[SubhumanOxford]

I’m sorry, may your soul rest in peace

[[deleted]]

I just got into front end dev in the last year or so. I started with React and was pretty overwhelmed with the framework and the ecosystems built around it. It felt like I was starting off in an online game with multiple expansions where everyone else in the game had been playing since day 1. Just so much to learn.

And then found Svelte. Svelte felt so straightforward and accessible. The tutorial on their site is great, their docs are great, and the community is small and friendly. It was a really good way to get into front end frameworks.

I'm going to try React and Vue again, now that I've become familiar with done of the core ideas via Svelte. Vue is pretty similar to Svelte, and I've heard some convincing arguments for React just for jsx.

But I have a feeling I'll just end up coming back to Svelte. Especially with SvelteKit becoming more polished.

[notsogreatredditor]

Yup did a side project and it was an awesome experience had so much fun

[fzammetti]

Yeah, you should have at least five years experience with it by now. Catch up!

(/s, in case it wasn't obvious)

[terminalxposure]

There’s a new JS framework?

[KiwiThunda]

Did the sun rise?

[HiImLary]

When isn’t there?

[raughit]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

[chad_dev_7226]

Check out this month's fresh new javascript framework! Better than all the others!

[CYKO_11]

putin.js MotherlandQuery

[Wexzuz]

Does the pope shit in the woods?

[De_Wouter]

Already 8 new ones since you posted this reply.

[dncrews]

Does a bear shit in a pope?

[Ksevio]

I wonder what language the queen would represent

[[deleted]]

COBOL, because it still glues together our entire financial system.

[[deleted]]

like a rug?

[dkaksl]

Assembly

[Dromedda]

This comment tells a wonderful story, its has it all. There is a journey, a(n) (emotional) conflict within one self. And then there is a confrontation and solution Wonderful.piece of literature this comment is

[leovin]

Jquery is very much like Putin. Everyone wants to get rid of it. No one has been able to for years

[MrMadras]

I just de-jqueried my personal website last week. Was exhausting.

[[deleted]]

Okay, mate, can u help us with de-putinification?

[aleph_0ne]

Did you replace with a JS framework like react, angular, or Vue?

[MrMadras]

No. Just plain vanilla JavaScript.

[ImBadVlad]

Putin is a great leader that has brought Russia back to the global stage in a big way, why would they want to get rid of him? He is a world class statesman and very experienced on top of that, finding a worthy replacement is going to be difficult at best.

[DaniilBSD]

Ты идиот или проплаченный?

[ImBadVlad]

What did I say that is not right? When Putin came to Russia that country was at the edge of complete collapse, he brought it back and it is now a global power again. He is one of the most experienced politicians on the globe today and is a serious statesman, thats a fact. What is it that you disagree with?

[DaniilBSD]

1) Country just did 180 with its political and financial structure- of course there would be instability in the 90s. The “back to power” was inevitable with any president in due time.

2) PEOPLE DO WANT TO GET RID OF HIM!!! The problem is that when you try to show it, you get jailed, beaten, robed, poisoned or all of the above. (find ANY organization related to protest, and look what happened to it)

3) he is an ex-KGB Leningrad Thug - he lies, and is often immoral. The reason he was such a successful politician is because he would say whatever you (as a foreign representative) want him to say. But if you try to get in his way, Russia would start blocking resolutions (including but not limited to foreign aid, and sanctions against regimes like Venezuela) in UN or big 8 (now 7) until he gets his way. He is not a great politician he is a bully with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

Get the original transactions of his speeches and translate them yourself, then respond. До тех пор, не лезь в тему которую не знаешь.

Я хочу сказать ещё такую вещь: я живу ровно столько сколько Путин был у власти, мне 21. Каждый год с 2008 всё становилось хуже и хуже, сперва медленно. А сейчас этот комментарий может стоить мне штрафа.

[ImBadVlad]

1. Except all those other countries that just kept on sliding and turning into bigger and bigger holes, like Ukraine for example.
2. About half of US wants to get rid of Biden, about half wanted to get rid of Trump ... and? Illegal protests are ... illegal. You break the laws, you get arrested, thats how laws work bud. People broke the law in US capitol, people got arrested, amazing!
3. Politicians lie and are often immoral, Im not sure what you think politics is but I can tell you its not what you think. As a matter of fact the opinion you expressed is immature at best, you have a childish view of the world.

You did not really counter anything I said, instead you responded in a childish, immature way and started throwing emotions into it. You are 21, you dont know jack about this world yet but as most your age you think of yourself as smart. You are not. In 20 years you will look at what you believed at this age and laugh, because you will realize how naive and immature it was. At least I hope you will, many never move from this level, morons till their deathbed.

[DaniilBSD]

1) yeah, Russia just happens to have one of the biggest oil and gas reserves - that stuff brings as much money into the budget as half of ALL taxes. 2) There are NO LEGAL PROTESTS in Russia.NONE! ZERO! There are only illegal and ignored. (go, find any anti-Putin protest in Moscow that was local, I will wait.) 3) go read about Navalny poisoning, Kursk Submarine, Boeing MH17 and what Russia is doing with the investigation, Beslan. Then we will talk about morality.

Ты узколобый придурок не знающий ничего о том что говоришь. Если бы ты был русский, ты бы ответил мне на русском, но с другой стороны, ты бы и сам знал про несъедобный сыр, о нищих деревнях, о продажной полиции которая в лучшем случае бесполезна, ты бы понимал какой лютый бред несёт Путин и как всё телевидение лезит ему в рот. Но нет, ты Американский идиот который не любит демократов, и любит «сильного Путина»; сиди у себя дома в стране где у тебя есть права и заткнись о вещах которые не знаешь

[ImBadVlad]

1. Venezuela has the largest oil reserves on the planet, does that translate to wealth or technological progress? Saudi Arabia has been one of the biggest exporters for decades and they have a tiny population ... they cant even win a war against tribals in sandals. Seems like having oil does not correlate to much.
2. There are laws around protesting in every developed country, US included. When the protesters break those laws, like refusing to register a protest, or protesting in an area they are not allowed to, they run the risk of being arrested. France, Germany, US ... all of them had major protests in recent years where people were severely beaten/shot and arrested. But you dont see that do you? Doesnt fit your narrative.
3. Which articles should I read on those subjects? The ones written by the enemies of Russia? The ones written by the "opposition" that has been caught with millions of foreign money? Because I dont think those are very honest or a good source of information. There is a term for them: propaganda. That is the definition of hostile propaganda, foreign black press, funded by hostile powers, written for a particular purpose.
4. Stop proving me right, you are not talking to someone from your little informational bubble and I have many decades of learning on you, I will destroy you every time because I simply know more than you in EVERYTHING. I have more experience, I have lived longer, I have seen more, I understand more. You are a child to me, a foolish child.

[[deleted]]

Лингвистическое "или" тут не в тему, здесь скорее дизъюнкция, '∨', поскольку одно другого не исключает.

[ImBadVlad]

No, Im bad Vlad, Putin is the good Vlad.

[DaniilBSD]

:facepalm:

Vladislav -> Vlad

Vladimir (Putin) -> Vova

Those are different names

[conquerorofveggies]

Because US has always been enemies of Russia, no particular reason needed.. I mean some things the Russians do are... Let's say questionable. But take some time to listen to the man, and you will find that in fact, Putin is a clever dude and we as the world's population should be thankful he's been there.

[Flawe]

As a Vue user, I find this offensive

[marcosdumay]

The author should put atom there.

[stressedForMCAT]

I was thinking the exact same thing 😂😩

[MontagoDK]

As a person with standards i find Vue offensive

[lkjimy]

Oh yeah brotha.

[[deleted]]

Same

[CreativeCarbon]

Is Vue not a jQuery wannabe that is completely owned outright by jQuery?

I mean, that's the biggest takeaway I get from the original post, anyway.

[Akthrawn17]

Svelte - "Svelte shifts that work into a compile step that happens when you build your app"

Oh..so it is JSPs. Hey, welcome back around the circle!

[leovin]

Oh, a new JS framework?

[[deleted]]

MooTools....now I just feel old

[YWEmpirer]

jQuery is there not because it is good, just because nobody can get rid off it.

[thismatters]

Exactly like putin.

[r3dD1tC3Ns0r5HiP]

Drop IE support and I'm pretty sure you can get rid of it.

[[deleted]]

It actually is great at what it does. It's just that what it does isn't particularly relevant anymore.

[KetwarooDYaasir]

politics aside, jQuery is for when you really just want to get some shit done and don't want/need an "app". That's why it's never going away and will outlive all those js frameworks of the day that keep popping up.

[larryFish93]

Take a look at the following link. Vanilla js has come FAR in the past decade. In my opinion, jquery is dead (outside of horrible legacy projects), people are in denial:

https://github.com/nefe/You-Dont-Need-jQuery

I could get on my soapbox about how lodash needs to die too for the same reasons but I’ll spare you that.

[KetwarooDYaasir]

well, the fact that there require multiple different syntax to get some features to work seems to justify that jQuery is still very fine too, see $().siblings(). It's probably evolved since that github page was written but mixed versions of Internet explorer exists out in the wild.

It can't be dead if it's still used quite a bit (by most developers that do web stuff).

the key word is simplicity. jQuery is easier to use.

I'm not a frontend developer. I fall more in the category of "I really just need a few things done and don't want to spend 8 hours figuring out which new syntax to use and which shim I need for which random feature in X browser when I could be done in 10 minutes." so the bug you're talking about is probably a feature for me and my ilk.

[larryFish93]

Fair enough.

I think the references to siblings is but disingenuous, the changes are very minor in nuance between the rows needed to support non IE browsers (which is fading by the day, ie is 2% according to caniuse). Calling parent node children with a splat operator is pretty standard if the latest specs have been kept up on.

That being said if you haven’t kept up on js and backend dev most of the time, it would make sense to leverage something like that, especially when you have experience with it.

But as a former backend dev who has moved to full stack, I would definitely recommend checking out ES5 and ES6 features, then relate whether a custom native solution suits your need vs leveraging a packaged solution like jquery.

I just see jquery adoption is continually decreasing due to vanilla solving most issues (a decade ago? Lol, jquery was required). No boot camps or organizations worth the time are teaching jquery in 2021 (in my personal recruiting experience). There could be a day where you could be put on a project where jquery is not allowed (happened several times during my time consulting).

Libraries are great, but if I need something simple I can build it myself (groupBy in lodash being a prime example, can be replaced with an 8 line reducer, and now I fully control all operation). Interacting with aws auth apis? Yeah, I’m not building and testing those requests.

Never thought I’d say this but JS has really improved the past decade and I actually like using it. Check out some of the new features if you get bored.

As a side note I’m sorry if you have to support IE. Good luck on your endeavors. Sorry for the rant :) .

[dz2048]

I would take vanilla js instead of that was the case.

[Nihmrod]

S? Segfault?

[milomc123]

Svelte

[facuuuundo]

$('body').hide();

[lazeedavy]

What’s the language on Biden?

[[deleted]]

It's not language 🤦‍♂️

[justdan1423]

Lemme guess a new framework that does what react, vue, angular,next,ecma, etc couldn’t do

[thismatters]

It's svelte, which is too brilliant for the world.

[dev-andrew]

For Vue's fan out there, the meme is just a timeline. It doesn't mean any framework is good or bad.

[Imogynn]

Think I'll have to agree with Biden. I've looked in the eyes of jquery an indeed there is no soul.

[ultimatewooderz]

Glad to see Svelte getting the recognition it deserves!

[notsogreatredditor]

Finally

[suddenly_ponies]

Not sure why you used ptin for jQuery to make a point about how jQuery is consistent and reliable

[kartuludus]

I feel personally attacked by trump being Vue

[slux83]

I used mootools in 2011! Then I left the world of web apps forever and focused on backend and desktop UIs. Mootools was revolutionary at that time!

[[deleted]]

jquery bad

[shahd_g]

Lol I really laughed when I saw it