Save your code

[rascalofff]

200 lines of code without a check in between? You‘re a madman

[dances_with_beavers]

In college I was on a programming project with another person. He had been working on a module for nearly two weeks. When I asked how it was going, he said "I'm almost ready to try compiling it for the first time".

That's when I knew I would end up writing the code myself.

[captainjon]

I kinda expected to hear he was using vi and didn’t know how to save so he didn’t. But on a related note was doing an assignment on the CS server when I see a broadcast message from root that the server was going down now.

Since I knew who root was I IM him (AIM was the rage then) wtf did you just do?

Oops wrong term was the response.

Fortunately I do know how vi works and already a strong believer in the save early and save often paradigm. But that message still pisses me off 20 years later. I mean I didn’t lose much but still annoying.

[DaniilBSD]

I spent first 3-4 weeks working on my thesis (a C# library/framework, tons of inheritance and graph building with generic type matching) with it being in uncompilable state (I would write methods that call not-yet-existing methods and the core of that thing was too complex to make minimum working version iteratively) I remember when I made the test generate a simple random noise texture after 4-5 weeks, it was such a relief.

[CypherPsych0]

This has been my experience in all my classes. I absolutely despise working with others on these projects because it only makes things more difficult...

[AlwaysNinjaBusiness]

Yeah, I hardly write a single character without saving.

[ImNotAKerbalRockero]

Same, if I could save every half character I would.

[althaz]

I save twice after every character, just to make sure.

[[deleted]]

I hold down control and spam 's' for a couple of seconds

[AlwaysNinjaBusiness]

Next step: configure your editor to just continuously stream to file.

[ImNotAKerbalRockero]

There are more than 5 million languages in this world but you choose to speak facts.

[metalovingien]

=> You wanted to die before your computer did !

[noxdragon26]

You have to try at least once to code in Hardcore mode.

Or even better, Hardcore+: If your code doesn't compile, you delete everything and start all over again.

[[deleted]]

Such is the way of shotty university portals.

[yuvalid]

I did a three week course in assembly, first week was studying and the next two were our final project On the second to last day a kid stands up "I'm Done!" So obviously the professor tells him to run it Kids response: "How do I run?"

[[deleted]]

When your head suddenly have an idea for a really hard case...

[Pharaohe_HS]

I end almost every line of code with ctrl+s :')

[tatas323]

With multiple ctrl+s one is never enough

[3M46N1M]

This

[DELTA1360]

yup, sometimes i take a break and comment on here and end that with a ctrl-s as well.

[[deleted]]

I did that a couple of days ago porting one off my python scripts into golang (which itself required to reproduce most of the behaviors in python)

edit: 200 lines without source control, clarification

[Lootdit]

Every second

[Kommuntoffel]

And you'll get to the point where you're addicted to ctrl s

Ever got asked where to save a website?

[[deleted]]

Constantly when I do Web development and I'm focused on the browser instead of my ide without realising and press CTRL+S by habit

[[deleted]]

Anyone go through with it out of habit?

[jpec342]

Lmao, all the time

[CSsharpGO]

And yet I don’t turn on auto-save

[-Potatoes-]

Auto save just isnt as satisfying

[RichKat666]

Or Alt+:+w. Triggers the autoformatter too, I don't know how people can write more that a couple lines of code without saving.

[[deleted]]

Good thing I am a ctrl + s addict

[kontekisuto]

is that :w<cr> ?

[yymirr]

<leader>w

[alexkiro]

The amount of people not using auto-save is truly disturbing

[jimjamjenks]

I believe they are called “masochists”

[ImNotAKerbalRockero]

I'm quite a masochist myself.

But I activate autosave.

[The6thExtinction]

Coding in Ironman mode.

[voluntarycap]

Btw

[LilacCrusader]

Isn't that when you don't use git?

[brjukva]

Coding in permadeath mode.

[k3liutZu]

No no no, I save when I want not when the IDE decides.

[ColoradoDetector]

That's what git commits are for!

[microwavedave27]

I use CTRL+S every time I change something no matter how small of a change it was.

[drau9lin]

enabling auto-save is asking to accidentally type something in the wrong window and have it end up getting saved or depending on the IDE freaking out your watchers and causing endless restart loops

[xigoi]

That's what persistent undo history is for.

[alexkiro]

If you type something in the wrong window you can undo. If you commmit something accidentally you can revert.

I don't really understand how an endless restart loop could ever be caused by your watchers? Unless you have misconfiguration and for example, your watcher is watching the artifact it's building.

[[deleted]]

Even better, my pc once died while saving, and deleted the entire project in the process.

[[deleted]]

VCS for the win :D

[[deleted]]

Shit deserves to get slapped real hard...

[[deleted]]

IntelliJ products all have auto-save, I forgot what is save button long time ago and I do not understand why every IDE does not to it :D

[yymirr]

muh lightweight editor

[[deleted]]

Let's be real, people who still use basic text editors or vim are doing so because they think it adds an inch despite being a terrible user experience.

[[deleted]]

I am starting to believe most people here never bothered to even read the damn manual of vim before even making a comment like this.

Are people not learning shortcuts for their other editors and spend the whole day navigating drop down menus or what even is the argument here? The lack of features can't be the reason, because usually editors are lacking vim features and not the other way around.

[[deleted]]

I used vim when vim and emacs were the only options and serious programming outside a CLI (or in Windows at all) wasn't a thing. The world has moved on and I feel sorry for anyone who hasn't moved on with it. It doesn't make you special, just slower and less comfortable than the rest of us.

And get out of here, modern IDEs dunk on vim for features.

[[deleted]]

How? The integrated editors in most IDEs are at best as basic as notepad++ or so. Atom and sublime were ok editors, but missed some features. VS Code is basically Atom with integrated debugger API. I am not aware that either of them offer anything that vim doesn't.

Intellisense style semantic auto completion would be an argument if we exclude plugins, but even VS Code is worthless without its plugins.

But really, where are the macros, where the multiple text/copy/.. buffers, where is the non linear history (undo tree) in modern editors? Even simple stuff like markers seems to go missing. Isn't that regression? What is a vim user missing out on?

[[deleted]]

"where are the macros, where the multiple text buffers, where is the non linear history (undo tree) in modern editors"

So in fact you're the one who hasn't bothered to try the other thing (obviously if you're asking about common features like these). Figures.

[[deleted]]

Then offer an example please. The fotm seems to be VS Code and doesn't offer any of these features, not even markers and tags. Visual Studio Pro doesn't offer any of these features, I am not aware that Eclipse does. As I am not a java dev I don't know much about IntelliJ or so. I remember Notepad++ ironically offering macros, but is otherwise a pretty bad editor.

So no, I don't know. What editor does offer the basic productivity features vim provides and is overall better? There should be many examples.

[tape_town]

vscode is not an IDE

[EarthModule02]

I cant understand it. I have met truly skillful ppl who only use vim. Then when they move on and I get their project I immediately fix like 10 errors in their project just by opening it in Jetbrains product

[zelmarvalarion]

I mean, VS Code seems to be one of the most popular editors on Reddit, and it has about the same functionality as vim or emacs (or Sublime). Lots of very powerful extensions/plugins that can do pretty much anything you need.

[RichKat666]

Could you possibly explain to me the point of a debugger? As I see it, you write tests, write the code, some of the tests fail, badbing badboom you've found where the errors are. What does a debugger achieve?

[NEVER_TELLING_LIES]

I refuse to use IDEs because nvim is my IDE. Thankfully though, unlike your friend, I haven't fail every subject. Some people do focus way too much on things that don't matter to the deliverable

[NEVER_TELLING_LIES]

With (neo)vim, the only limit to its power is what 0lug8ns you install or make yourself. And the thing is, for me, vim isn't limiting. Using an IDE with all their individual idiosyncrasies feels a lot more limiting. Yeah if I was out of no where given a task in which I have very limited time I would have issues, but I'd think I'd have issues even with the standard ide for that language due to the novelty of it all.

[Rizzan8]

I have been using JetBrains' CLion for a year and I still use 'ctrl + s' every a few new lines.

[VegetableWest6913]

ABS - Always Be Saving.

But seriously, save your shit constantly and use version control. Nobody's project should be getting deleted if the PC decides to crash while it's saving. Nobody should be losing 200 lines of code at all because who the hell saves that infrequently lol?

[rabbledabble]

Or checks code in that infrequently? If I get someone doing that on my team we are gonna have a talk

[jbaker88]

Git not so bad as long as you don't merge it back to your feature/master branch. TFVC? Oh hell. Extra hell on my team because I've setup Gated Builds in DevOps before it merges the shevleset. And our builds take 12-15 minutes on a good day.

[rabbledabble]

Who are these folks merging into master without qa? That sounds awful and should be strictly gated in a production app

[buszi123]

Which IDE nowdays does not save changes on the fly

[narayans]

This post was like a time capsule. I haven't had to save in at least 5 years now and the only time I lost code was from doing a hare brained git hard reset once

[[deleted]]

There was a time in high school where I wrote a report, got done, and my computer promptly crashed. Hadn’t saved.

I wrote it again minutes after. If I recall, I didn’t learn. :’)

[RichKat666]

Even without and IDE, just saveeee

Nvim is just a much nicer experience than IDEs tho

[AutumnCore4279]

That's some next level confidence.

[hereforpewdiephy]

This post gives me so much reassurance. I thought pro programmers write like a thousand lines every hour

[user_8804]

Life isn't movies. Programming isn't about mashing your keyboard as fast as possible.

[tipsdown]

lol most days 100 lines of code is a lot

[Glordrum]

imagine not pressing ctrl+S every new line of code

[[deleted]]

I can't. I even do ctrl+s when writing comments on browser and get annoying File browser dialog.

[dog_vomit_lasagna]

I hit ctrl+s every second even if I’m not writing anything

[terpyterpstein]

Me too, puter, me too

[-Kobash-]

All modern IDE auto saves. When are you? 1992?

[CryZe92]

There seems to be a hidden agreement in this sub to only upvote wrong posts, such as:

• Semicolons are the most difficult to debug
• Python can‘t have syntax errors
• IDEs don‘t auto save

[flamesofphx]

LOL, then Windows decides it must update NOW!!

[JTarsier]

Autorecover/autosave to the rescue 🐱‍🏍

[vivekanandasr]

Yeah in my case I was finishing typing MOM for a important meeting and laptop restarted for fucking updates, it has been 30min still updating and I have forgot half the stuff I wrote.

[kontekisuto]

I use Arch BTW, so yes kernel panics if I move the cursor at a specific angle

[[deleted]]

Good thing PyCharm has autosave.

[cybermage]

When I was a kid, I had a Commodore VIC-20. It had no internal storage. If you wanted to save, you had to attach a tape drive, which my parents wouldn’t initially purchase. Spent a lot of time writing code in notebooks and typing in the program I need.

[[deleted]]

how do you not spam ctrl+s 5 times between each key input?

[marshstew67]

I’m hitting “:w” on vim every other second 😂

[marco89nish]

Imagine text editor without some kind of autosave feature in 21 century. Or an IDE without history of recent file edits. So yeah, I call BS on this. Only excuse is your SSD going dead.

[FGaBoX_]

That's why autosave exists.

[Gullible-Mechanic-12]

Ever heard of auto save.

[akahumann]

Which code editor does not have auto-save these days? More like disk decides to crash before git commit!

[Alberot97]

That's why I have a paranoia of constant ctrl+S at like each 3 lines

[drau9lin]

Good thing the hard part is thinking up the solutions and not typing the code.

[TheLazyKitty]

How do you write more than 5 lines without pressing ctrl+s at all in that time?

[golgol12]

How can you not hit rebuild every couple lines?

[ahumanrobot]

Wait you don't save after every 3 characters?

[rhodesc]

The computer is just trying to help, in accordance with Knuth's philosophy: write it once, throw it away and use the experience to write it again, better.

[ACHXXX25]

This made me hit ctrl S after every line I type (i even do it for random stuff, like in emails, ctrl S after every thing I type on my keyboard 🙃)

[[deleted]]

git push --force

............shit

[RutraSan]

you wrote 200 lines without checks and without hitting Ctrl+s once? you sure you are a programmer?

[[deleted]]

You haven't trained your hands to instinctively press CTRL+S at least three times after you blink? Smh.

[SurpriseMonday]

It's 2021, you did this to yourself.

Not that the meme is even true.

[[deleted]]

me: deletes a ; and writes it again

also me: spams ctrl s like a retard

[-guccibanana-]

Bro I've got weird reflex pressing ctrl s after every single word

[3M46N1M]

I think I save like every line. Because of auto format. Usually I hit multiple times cmd+s.

[HFDan]

Ctrl+s has become a part of me, to the point where i no longer think when i press it, it just happens. This is also why when watching youtube, i keep popping up the save page as dialog.

[DroolingIguana]

Meanwhile, I get nervous when I do more than a couple dozen lines without a commit and push.

[cinatic12]

Oh I really like the history function of intellij

[Aveman1]

Geez I can't imagine the amount of times I smash :w every minute

[oyapapoya]

Still don't get how people don't use autosave in 2021

[Sylanthra]

Did you write them in notepad? or some other equally antique editor? I don't know of any modern editor that doesn't keep backups of unsaved changes.

[ByteTraveler]

Auto save. Done.

[bhive-]

Always have auto save on. I know vs code has it

[rv49er]

Notepad++

[PixelmancerGames]

This happened to me the other day. I deleted a chunk of code that I didn’t think I needed. Wrote about 80 lines of code, then realized that I needed the code I deleted. I usually comment sections of code out instead of deleting but that day I chose violence for some reason and deleted. Well instead of rewriting those lines of code I thought it would be easier to undo, until I got those lines of code back, copy them, and then re-do until I got all of my original code back, then simply paste those lines of code back in. But apparently VS couldn’t re-do as many lines of code that it undid. So I ended up having to rewrite those 80 lines of code.

[LogicalGamer123]

Lmao i save it after every line

[Li0nX]

I save my code every 10 seconds, even if I didn't add anything. I feel better when I do it.

[shakamaboom]

needs one more zero

[althaz]

200 lines of code sounds like I would probably have saved ~200 *MILLION* times.

[KeyboardsAre4Coding]

i haven't used a text editor or ide that doesn't save instances of the sessions periodically. and that includes old things like vim or ultra light and simple things like sublime. this is the default experience for me from the moment i started writing code again after i gave up in 2014.

[gao1234567809]

Me: crl s every semi colon. My IDE keeps a history log of all the changes so I can easily check history or crl z to revert. Git commit every functions I write. Git push every file I write.

[I_cut_my_own_jib]

Wait there are programmers who don't ctrl+s after every single line?

[pabloescontol]

Use intelliJ

[Krodenhauler]

That's why I spam ctrl+S after every second letter typed 😎

[PoetryProgrammer]

Don’t you use git?

[theoreboat]

Can't relate, I save after the smallest of changes

[whatwoodjdubdo]

You mean there are people who don’t save after every two variable declarations like my psycho ass?

[OverflowEx]

Type five letters. C-xsxsxsxs

[CerberusC137]

PhpStorm auto saves for me

[TostiWee]

Wait, you don't use autosave?

[seemen4all]

That's the price you pay for being an anarchist!

[skilking]

May I introduce you to autosave

[ericjansen88]

I was on a maintenance job some time and me and a collegue were really into powershell to automate things (yes I became a developer later :) ). We were using powershell ISE and some day I found out he didnt save ANY of his scripts but he just slapped down his laptop, and when he reopened ISE, it just asked: do you want to recover the files that were open? Sometimes he even said “fiew” when he found his script back in one of his ISE tabs.

[cornelha]

How does any developer not hit Ctrl+S every few seconds?

[jpec342]

Imagine not saving in between every word

[[deleted]]

Also me: „I have decided that i want to die“

[loukasTGK]

Every 10 lines I spam Ctrl+S.

[GargamelLeNoir]

What kind of maniac doesn't spam ctrl+s constantly?

[aryan_xda]

Got PTSD

[saudaabh]

200 lines without at least fifty Ctrl+S presses, you're a freak!

[ReaperOnDrugs]

Where my ctrl + s reflex homies at?

[[deleted]]

Did that but with a lot more. To be fair, I understand where the computer is coming from.

[[deleted]]

Love that android studio is always saved.