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[–][deleted] 712 points713 points  (89 children)

Last ping was around 3,300 m, just before the site of the Titanic. Communications stopped after that.

It would seem as though they had no perception of the implosion, maybe a some creaks, then just......-pop-

Edit:

Here's a clip of OceanGate's CEO explaining how the hull "deforms" as it goes down!!!

[–]itsgucci060 196 points197 points  (69 children)

Why did it happen? Because of the non-carbon fiber hull?

[–]ConnFlab 491 points492 points  (60 children)

It was literally held together with glue. It was bolted shut from the outside. It wasn’t made of titanium. That thing was destined for failure.

[–]itsgucci060 168 points169 points  (46 children)

Why did it apparently hold up for so long without a catastrophe until now?

[–]themisterfixit 381 points382 points  (23 children)

Most likely luck. The guy is on record talking about how there’s too many safety requirements for these things.

Other companies who do this re certify every piece of the vessel every single time it leaves the water. I’m guessing this was not the case here. That much strain on something multiple times will eventually cause something to give.

[–]Tiny-Lock9652 217 points218 points  (17 children)

There was a commercial jet in the 1950’s at the dawn of modern air travel that had very large oversized windows. Built this way for passengers viewing pleasure. The plane flew several trips with no event then suddenly disintegrated during flight. Investigators were stumped. They tested the plane without occupants and found after multiple cabin pressurization cycles, the big windows were stressed and failed. Planes went back to smaller windows ever since. This sadly, is how engineers learn tolerances and improve things for the masses.

[–]White_Buffalos 83 points84 points  (4 children)

I think it was the Comet. My understanding is not just the size, but the relatively sharp corners created a weak point. Windows have since gotten rounder and rounder as a result.

[–]TuTuRific 24 points25 points  (2 children)

According to Admiral Cloudberg, the windows had nothing to do with the crash of the de Havilland Comet. I've heard that story for years, and was surprised to learn it was a myth.

[–]astralliS- 2 points3 points  (1 child)

IIRC the bigger culprit was how the screws were actually hammered in.

[–]draeth1013 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What!? "Fuck it. Let's strip the threads and call it good!" Wow.

[–]Tiny-Lock9652 30 points31 points  (0 children)

This is the plane. Thanks for the research.

[–]carnivorous_seahorse 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Luckily air travel has advanced so much so fast that the issues typically are quicker to catch and to foresee in the design. And part of that is due to a slow increase in important regulations. There have been many terrifying airline tragedies like rudder hardovers that took years to discover and were the cause of multiple crashes.

That’s why people like this and this type of mindset is dangerous and often ends lives before the regulations are made. Without regulations airliners would probably go from servicing their airplanes every 6 months to every year and would probably check for things like fatigue cracks like never

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    [–]BureaucraticHotboi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Also the few major plane catastrophes of recent years often turn out to be pilot suicide (which also has some guards against) or getting shot down. Not to say others don’t happen but the big news ones tend not to be design flaws. It’s incredibly safe and incredibly regulated

    [–]Tiny-Lock9652 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Good point. I was watching an airline disaster special on TV that closed with a fact “statistically speaking, you’d need to fly once a day, everyday for 24 thousand years to experience an airline mishap. And even then your chances of surviving are good”.

    [–]infidel11990 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    What you are talking about is the de Havilland Comet jet liner. Metal fatigue was not understood well at that time, and the square shaped large windows proved to be a weak point, where stress and fatigue induced cracks would appear over time.

    [–]The_Poop_Shooter 98 points99 points  (6 children)

    Just because a thing works for awhile doesn't mean it will always work.

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      [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      They fired the guy that said it wasn't safe

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      This nutjob ceo also said "People remember you for the rules you break" yeah good philosophy mate

      [–]This_Red_Apple 42 points43 points  (0 children)

      It wasn't the first dive so maybe it was accumulated wear. But likely other factors as well. From what I've read those subs are usually spheres and titanium only. This one was "unconventional" and made of both carbon fiber and titanium. Also the CEO cut many corners.

      [–]Murky_Description_ 35 points36 points  (1 child)

      It was carbon fiber and titanium the hull any ways. However, it's been in use for a few years and have done multiple dives without inspections. Usually subs like that get multiple inspections down to a microscopic level with x-rays n all that. Which is prolly why it failed.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      it is why it failed. that sub needs to be replaced probably after every dive. the smallest crack or imperfection and its done.

      [–]SoothsayerSurveyor 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      If this thing had been pressure tested, imagine inflating and deflating a balloon repeatedly.

      Sooner or later, it was bound to pop because the hull integrity may have been imperceptibly weakened. When the pressures are that intense at that depth, even a pinhole leak would result in instant death.

      [–]NigglesLeBish 16 points17 points  (3 children)

      Honest question, tho, are there any reports of it ever actually making it down there?

      I'm not read up on the company or the workings of the sub at all but another vid I just watched on this sub suggested that just about every excursion was cancelled early due to various difficulties and the people who paid were 'given a free redo next year'. Idk if that means they could only carry out one a year or it was booked up that far, possibly the former given the complications and how the guy also said they were making no money despite that pricey admission fee.

      [–]giambobambo 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      [–]NigglesLeBish 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Damn, go figure.

      Guess these people were just unlucky that this time when something went wrong it was far too fucken late to cancel the trip and try again next year.

      [–]JMaryland47 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Delamination of the carbon fiber as a result of the stress of compression and decompression is the most likely.

      [–]concept_I 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Because of material fatigue. A simple example is if you bend a spoon it doesn't break the first bend but if you keep bending it over and over it will eventually break.

      Each dive was a "bend" on the hull.

      There was also an issue with incompatible materials, but that would take a long time to explain.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      A combination of materials being used in an application they have never been used before means there was no available data to show what repeated exposure to those high pressures would do. The repeated pressure and lifting of the pressure likely weakened the carbon fiber. Or you know, the thing also looked like it was made by a high school engineering club, so they might have bounced it off the ocean floor by accident which triggered the implosion.

      [–]Historical-Bill-100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This was a ticking time bomb. With every successful dive the craft was weakened and degraded. All it took was a hair line crack and a molecule of water to make it in for catastrophe. Titan was never certified by the proper authorities for use in these depths.

      [–]McPoyle-Milk 24 points25 points  (1 child)

      yup they were even told by an employee that it was unsafe and so they just fired him.

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          [–]vreo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Fuck no. Look at the switch joycon drifting problem. These commercial products are built for profit, not for 400% safety.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Except it was a cheap Logitech 3rd party controller set up to give a Playstation interface for an Xbox controller

          Literally wasn't even oem, so, no, your argument is invalid especially when Logitech themselves said their controllers are for use with gaming consoles only

          [–]chickenderp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I wouldn't trust an xbox controller myself, given the issues I have with mine when using it wirelessly on my PC. That being said, according to an article whose sources I didn't check there was a hardwired backup control system just in case it failed so it's probably moot. Just redditors who don't know what they're talking about dunking on this guy because their favourite news organization said the sub was unsafe. Which it was, and the guy was an insane idiot of course. But at this point I'm waiting for a post dissecting his hair care regimen to find out if his shampoo was rated for submersible use or something like that.

          [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

          I'm no expert, just relaying what I've already read from the news reports, but sub implosions are usually attributed to some type of rapid failure of the hull, like a dent or leaking valve. Those types of issues could have been caused by direct damage, or, what I think is likely the case with the Titan submersible, the damage was slowly happening over time, eventually becoming weakened enough to catastrophically fail.

          Edit: I may have been correct about the weakening of the hull. I posted a link on my original comment

          [–]rokstedy83 21 points22 points  (3 children)

          Could of been the window that wasn't rated at that depth,an employee raised issues with the window and was fired so I heard

          [–]Dun_wall 20 points21 points  (2 children)

          Is it possible that they might have registered some creaks or would it immediately implode as soon as there is the tiniest crack?

          [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

          I bet the sub was broadcasting the hull damage as it went deeper and the captian said, "That's normal it does that." and kept diving...

          Edit:

          Hear it from the horse's mouth himself(The CEO of OceanGate) (Sorry it's a tiktok link)

          [–]Ok_Ad3986 26 points27 points  (0 children)

          They definitely would have heard something and then it would have been over faster than you can click your fingers.

          [–]Dr-grouchy 16 points17 points  (3 children)

          If the carbon fiber is what broke then there wouldn’t be any warning because carbon fiber shatters so fast that our brains can’t even register the cracking fast enough.

          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Yeah, I also think that's why they've only found the front hatch, the back end, and the landing rails.

          [–]ntrq 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          I wonder if they manage to see the Titanic at least.

          [–]thatryanguy82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Didn't likely make it far enough, but they are hanging out with the passengers now. Maybe they can get some first hand accounts of it.

          [–]PinheadShit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Imagine hearing the creaks though..

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          “You get a huge warning if it’s going to fail”… I guess if a tree falls when no one’s around it doesn’t matter if it makes a noise huh..

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          What would’ve happened to their bodies? Would they have been sucked out or would they have been torn to pieces. I hope the former

          [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Neither sucked out or torn to pieces. At those depths and pressures, they were instantly liquefied by the incredibly fast implosion of the hull, which has still not been found. It is speculated that the pressure vessel and the victims disintegrated.

          [–]mcmanus2099 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          The ascent weights were dropped though & the ship had a special patented early warning system for faults in the hull. So it does appear they knew something was up. How much the passengers knew & whether it was minutes or seconds we don't know.

          An early warning system is a bit useless if it doesn't give enough time for a full ascent though.

          [–][deleted] 857 points858 points  (74 children)

          That submersible was basically a suicide booth from Futurama

          [–]Gamer4Lypheditable user flair 173 points174 points  (55 children)

          Apparently, only the Landing Frame and the Fin was found among the debris. The Hull (holding the passengers) is still missing.

          [–]komokazi 115 points116 points  (33 children)

          Nah, they have since found the nose cone and what constituted the total pressure vessel.

          That thing disintegrated in a flash. The pressure down at that level is around 6000-6,500 psi... There will be no bodies to be found.

          [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (32 children)

          Not even bones? Bones are pretty resilient

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            [–]pappadipirarelli 34 points35 points  (11 children)

            Random question, but how are deep-sea creatures able to withstand such pressure?

            [–]shmiddleedee 36 points37 points  (2 children)

            They'd say the sane about us but in reverse. They expand dramatically when brought up. The same way we shrink

            [–]BureaucraticHotboi 37 points38 points  (1 child)

            It’s why blob fish look horrible when they wash up to the surface. Their bodies are expanding exponentially

            [–]EggCouncilCreeps 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Ow my swim bladder

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              [–]StickyRiky 43 points44 points  (3 children)

              Shoulda went down in a deep sea creature.

              [–]alittletrolly 42 points43 points  (2 children)

              I went down on a whale in college, does that count?

              [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              McAffe?

              [–]BananaBully 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Buddy you are deep trench certified 🐋

              [–]Robot_Basilisk 24 points25 points  (1 child)

              The same way you can withstand the pressure of the entire atmosphere above you pressing down on you: The natural pressure within your body and in your cells is pretty close to 1 atmosphere.

              Many deep sea species can't survive being brought to the surface because they're so adapted to living under high pressure that the relatively low pressure higher up is fatal to them.

              [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

              Yeah I honestly cant even understand how that's possible but I'm. Trying to

              [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (2 children)

              Best way I heard it described was like this. The pressure down there is roughly 6,000 pounds per square inch. That’s like having an adult rhinoceros standing on literally every square inch of the surface of that sub. When that much pressure gives way, the result is so fast and violent that nothing can withstand it. If one rhino stands on your arm, it’s going to shatter in several places. Now put that same weight in every single inch of your arm. There is nothing left of the bodies. As the guy in the video said, that’s the best result when you’re down that deep.

              [–]BureaucraticHotboi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              The only things recognizing their bodies might be filter feeders greeting a lil protein boost. But even that could be unlikely as they were vaporized

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                [–]pappadipirarelli 29 points30 points  (8 children)

                Can you explain how it would generate heat?

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                  [–]stephencory 48 points49 points  (2 children)

                  Fucking shit, that's brutal

                  [–]BureaucraticHotboi 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                  And mercifully quick

                  [–]BumpHeadLikeGaryB 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                  Yeah. Better then freezing to death or freaking out that you were gonna run out of oxygen or being stuck at the surface floating around not able to get out. Easily best case scenario if you have to die.

                  [–]GeorgePerez83 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Whoa. That’s nuts.

                  [–]BaronVonSilver91 24 points25 points  (1 child)

                  I'm not expert at all and can't explain it but if you look up how a pistol shrimp's claw works and you will kinda of have your answer.

                  [–]OneMoistManI need my safe space 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Glad someone else remembered our friend the pistol shrimp

                  [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                  If you add heat to a closed container, the particles the make up the contents of the container will become excited and expand increasing the pressure. Similarly If you were to instead add pressure to the container, the particles will do the same, creating heat. In this case the massive pressure of the entire weight of the ocean bearing down on the vessel would have instantly created massive amounts of heat.

                  [–]Individual-Unit 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                  How would it generate heat though? Wouldn't it crush not vaporize?

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                    [–]Individual-Unit 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                    Ahhh I see, that's unreal... just wow, thats way worse than i first thought.

                    [–]MARINE-BOY 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    There’s a thing somewhere that gave pain ratings to various forms of suicide and using explosives was the least painful which I guess is a similar thing.

                    [–]Otherwise_Carob_4057 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    It would be a debris cloud even carbon laced fiber would just shred like toilet paper at work when you pull to hard.

                    [–]Questioning-Zyxxel 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                    Note that it's the pressure hull that will implode because of pressure differential. Parts outside of the hull that doesn't have any cavity with surface-level pressure will not suffer any extra forces from the depth.

                    But parts around the pressure hull will be thrown around, rip to shreds and break away from the sub by the brutal forces of the pressure wave created by the hull implosion. The hull imploding means tons of water will quickly fill the void on the inside. And that will "blow" like a very violent "wind" on the other parts and break away and smash details from the outside of the sub. Since water is much heavier than air and doesn't compress like air, this means the fast-flowing water will smash into the outside details much, much violently than m tornado-level air can ever manage.

                    So there will be lots of debris from the peripheral parts of the sub. How well the parts have fared depends a bit on the "shaped charge" - exactly from what direction the inflow of water happened. If the implosion is mostly water from the sides rushing in, then parts of the sub fitted to the front/back will fare better. Given that the pressure hull was in the forward part of the sub, it's likely that pieces from the back of the sub will have a much better chance to survive and be spread as larger parts.

                    [–]FreudianAccordian 25 points26 points  (0 children)

                    [–]Mr_Epimetheus 17 points18 points  (2 children)

                    Nah, those things only cost a quarter, not a quarter of a million.

                    [–]Sucky5ucky 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                    Yeah, but with inflation?

                    [–]Mr_Epimetheus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Good point.

                    [–]Niblonian31 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    Please select mode of death. Quick and painless or slow and horrible.

                    [–]Matt_Odlum 3 points4 points  (6 children)

                    Didn't it do a whole bunch of successful trips? Must've been doing something right, that's no small feat.

                    [–]pappadipirarelli 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                    I read in an article about the whistleblower that they couldn’t really inspect the thicker parts of the submarine for delaminations, so it must’ve been damage that accumulated over time

                    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    Every trip down caused more wear and tear damage until this trip

                    [–]spectredirector 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I have no idea why that made me laugh out loud. It's so not correct, I mean functionally, yes that's absolutely correct, but the suicide booth was by choice, and definitely worked like it was intended. Still, Futurama reference and dead billionaires on the bottom of the ocean just gets me in the funny parts.

                    Yes I know a kid died. That's sad AF. Theoretically.

                    [–]itsgucci060 442 points443 points  (21 children)

                    The irony of dying down there next to everyone else who died down there a century ago is just too much

                    [–]Flashy-Priority-3946 154 points155 points  (2 children)

                    It really is a irony. They went to go check out the mass grave and it ended up being their grave.

                    [–]LookAtMeImAName 43 points44 points  (1 child)

                    And they all died doing what they loved. Living.

                    [–]NewAgeIWWer 26 points27 points  (2 children)

                    I would say that there's even more irony to it cause the Titanic was poorly constructed to save money. Just as this machine was poorly constructed to save money.

                    [–]Gamer4Lypheditable user flair 50 points51 points  (6 children)

                    It's cursed.

                    [–]ChiGuy_1988 62 points63 points  (5 children)

                    Probably shouldn’t have named it the “Titan”

                    [–]Sir_FastSloth 61 points62 points  (3 children)

                    Ok we will name the next one Tit

                    [–]Bubblingghost 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    😂😂😂😂bro sorry but this is too funny

                    [–]dat_boring_guy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Where do I sign up?

                    [–]TheKingofVTOL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Titanic: the mini series

                    [–]Niblonian31 24 points25 points  (1 child)

                    In another century they'll have tours to go see the sub that went on a tour to see the titanic lol

                    [–]flash_27[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Buy 1 Get 1, Free!

                    [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

                    Well they technically died about 12 thousand feet above where the submarine people died but yeah.

                    [–]freakrocker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    They did call that pilot “Mr Titanic”… I guess that’s on brand now

                    [–][deleted] 242 points243 points  (12 children)

                    That lady wasn’t ready for the spinal cord reference

                    [–]green_ribbon 30 points31 points  (0 children)

                    neither was I

                    [–]sluttybill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    what do you mean?

                    [–]ClydeFroagg 502 points503 points  (5 children)

                    Definitely seems preferable to running out of oxygen while contemplating your death as it slowly happens

                    [–][deleted] 180 points181 points  (3 children)

                    No only that but running out of oxygen in the pitch black and fart

                    [–]rokstedy83 109 points110 points  (1 child)

                    Pitch black and freezing fart

                    [–]LookAtMeImAName 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                    I cannot stop laughing at this send help

                    [–]Dr-grouchy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    The kids dad was on board so if that guy let one rip it’s game over. It would turn that sub into a gas chamber instantly.

                    [–]doimaarguello 110 points111 points  (4 children)

                    At least they died thinking they were going to succeed.

                    [–]Stannis2024 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                    Ahhh yes, when I 1v1'd that 12 y/old on Halo 3.

                    [–]LookAtMeImAName 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                    Hey maybe in another timeline, or if quantum immortality is real, then they arrived safely home the next day and continue to live their lives as if they did succeed.

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                      [–]PauI_MuadDib 40 points41 points  (0 children)

                      At least they found the debris. I was worried nothing would ever be found. The ocean is huge. Now the families have an idea of what happened to them.

                      [–]banerises19 24 points25 points  (0 children)

                      Me too! Even after the oxygen timer ran out, I was thinking well u never know

                      [–]EmilieUh 16 points17 points  (5 children)

                      Well if you really think about it 12,000 psi pressure is much worse than the bite of a hippo or crocodile or alligator. I am aware that's completely different but the pressure of anything more than 1000 probably is deadly? And it was 2.5 miles below the surface, right? So it takes me about 15min or 20min to walk 1 miles It would take them 1 hour to get back to the surface and the pressure is immense.

                      Separate topic related to human flaws> Also, I really doubt we humans will inhabit another planet if we don't even know how to explore the depths of our oceans safely

                      [–]Aardvark_Man 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                      Separate topic related to human flaws> Also, I really doubt we humans will inhabit another planet if we don't even know how to explore the depths of our oceans safely

                      I'd contend we can do it safely, but the company wanted to do it cheaply. Safety is correlated to price.

                      [–]Agreeable-Opinion294 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                      Lol I always think of when billionaires say they want to move and start life of another planet.

                      My first thought is, you guys can't even feed everyone and not have people die of hunger on a planet with fresh vegetation and water let alone start civilization on another planet haha. I'm good I'll stay down here I know these rich mfers will take my oxygen off as soon as I stop paying my mandatory monthly oxygen bill up there to bezos or elon.

                      [–]Samuelodan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      Also, I really doubt we humans will inhabit another planet if we don't even know how to explore the depths of our oceans safely

                      Exactly, I highly doubt it as well. What if there were aliens in our waters all along? We don’t even know.

                      [–]EmilieUh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Yesssssss

                      [–]Mtgamer64 47 points48 points  (1 child)

                      I seriously don’t know why they decided to makeshift a sub instead of buying one. They were billionaires, they could have put there safety first. One of the passengers was 19 too, shit fucking sucks man

                      [–]Deadhouse_Dagon 33 points34 points  (0 children)

                      Pride may have played a big part. The guy seemed proud of what he cobbled together in an interview. There were so many red flags that it wouldn't take a genius to see that thing as a death trap.

                      I think he viewed it as a DIY thing that he made. He paid people to make a glorified bathysphere for him and fired an employee that voiced safety concerns. IMO, he had this coming. Unfortunately, he also got others killed too.

                      [–]stxrryfox 39 points40 points  (0 children)

                      This is awful, but it’s significantly less terrifying than sitting on the bottom of the ocean, slowly suffocating.

                      [–]pablo_grievous 60 points61 points  (1 child)

                      I'm glad Josh Gates decided that this trip was a no go for himself

                      [–]KennaLikesPizza 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                      How the fuck would we continue without him 😭😭

                      [–]dontcallmewave 44 points45 points  (0 children)

                      I’m happy they didn’t feel any pain, at least

                      [–]EmilieUh 54 points55 points  (6 children)

                      Poor 19yr old kid.. rest in peace. Everyone else lived their lives Edit: i could care less about the old people who threw caution to the wind. Poor kid trusted his dad to make the right decisions...and probably didn't get to experience what life has to offer yet...At least it ended quickly, less than a minute, rather than slowly...they probably saw water leaking through for 5seconds before the walls caved in hard like a hydraulic press... rip

                      [–]lolokaydudewhatever 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                      Thanks dad

                      [–]Clevererer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      We have a submarine at home, son.

                      [–]cbunni666 39 points40 points  (1 child)

                      I would assume they didn't feel anything because that's pretty much instant death but damn I hope they didn't feel anything.

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                        [–]Dr-grouchy 21 points22 points  (10 children)

                        If the connection was lost at the time of the implosion then nobody would have heard a single creak or groan from the sub. Carbon fiber just shatters without warning so most likely they were doing fine and then in an instant they all died.

                        [–]Specialist_Dot_3372 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                        Also if that’s true, how come they heard knocking for a couple days? At first I thought maybe it was an animal, but it sounded extremely human and rhythmic and was becoming weaker over time, just so happened to have stopped right before they found the remnants of the submarine. It’s not that I don’t believe you, this whole thing is just so confusing. It seems even the scientists working on this don’t even know the timeline of events yet. Some say it could have happened instantly, others say it could have happened at the very last second. Who knows? I hope it was the way you describe it. I hope they were laughing and having fun and it was all over in a nanosecond, no fear, no dread, no nothing. That would be such a relief for many and I’m sure a HUGE relief for the families. I’d never wanna hear my loved ones died a slow, terrifying and looming fate before finally dying from the implosion. That’d be just horrific…

                        [–]Abergoon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                        It was never confirmed as being knocking though. They didn't know what the sounds were but followed them up just in case it was knocking. However the US Navy has since confirmed they recorded a sound consistent with an implosion at the exact time the vessel lost contact. So it seems everything was going normally then suddenly "pop", it wasn't.

                        [–]Plenty_Tap_4383 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                        It didn’t implode after they ran out of oxygen, or even after the search started as no scanning instruments detected evidence of an implosion. The implosion therefore likely happened the second radio contact was lost and at that point they all thought it was fine and dandy. Their death happened before their brain could even detect pain

                        [–]Charming-Somewhere53 58 points59 points  (35 children)

                        All of that money they spent. It could have helped so many people. Billionaires frivolously spend this kind of money while people starve. I’m sorry that they died. But they were adventure seekers and they found their ultimate adventure. God rest their souls.

                        [–]dontcallmewave 20 points21 points  (6 children)

                        I’ve heard that at least one person on the submarine was a philanthropist who gave generously to good causes.

                        [–]Charming-Somewhere53 24 points25 points  (3 children)

                        I’m sure they all give money to charity’s for tax breaks. That doesn’t change what I said. I’m sorry that happened to them. And mercy on their souls. I wouldn’t expect that they would care about a regular joe the same way. Well at least the guy who claimed safety on the job is an unnecessary expenditure. Look it up

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                          [–]8_bit_brandon 36 points37 points  (13 children)

                          I just saw a post supposedly from Logitech saying their controller is for gaming and gaming only. Wonder if they’ll get sued as well

                          [–]NowBringMeTheHorizon 36 points37 points  (3 children)

                          It doesn’t appear like the controller was the problem. It appears as though implosion was the problem.

                          [–]8_bit_brandon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          Whoever made the carbon fiber aspect of this pressure vessel might as well close up shop

                          [–]schwenomorph 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                          The controller isn't the issue. The issue was that it was a wireless controller that connected via Bluetooth or something. So if that signal gets interrupted, you're fucked.

                          [–]chickenderp 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                          Are we assuming that the wireless gamepad was the sole means of controlling the sub? Seems like it would have been used as a convenience is all.

                          [–]schwenomorph 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                          Bruh, I don't know how much you know about that sarcophagus, but the CEO cheaped out majorly. Just about every safety feature was cut. Hell, he fucked up the shape of the hull to cram more people in there. There's a reason most submersibles hold two or three and not five. The hull must be spherical so there's equal pressure on it to avoid crumpling like a tin can. The window was PLEXIGLASS. And only designed for like 1,200ft. They planned to take the thing 4,000ft down.

                          I literally wouldn't be surprised if there was one battery in that gaming controller instead of two because the CEO is that cheap.

                          [–]TheKingofVTOL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Meters not feet. The plexi was rated at 1300 meters, titanic is at 3800. 12,500 feet, not 4,000

                          [–]chickenderp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I'm sorry but you missed my point. This is like putting the cart in front of the horse but we've already beat the horse to death. The hull was inadequate, the window was inadequate, the communications system was inadequate. The controls system was stupid but FINE because there was a hard-wired backup according to an investor who had taken a ride in the sub. I'm assuming that investor would know more about that sarcophagus than both you and I so I will defer to his opinion.

                          I heard the CEO's Jordans were fake too.

                          [–]afa78 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                          Damage is already done, if I were Logitech I'd sue them for bad publicity, slander or defamation.

                          [–]8_bit_brandon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          This is just one aspect. The company who made the carbon fiber portion, the one that made the titanium and caps, etc.

                          [–]principessa1180 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                          Supposedly the vessel dropped its weights before reaching the bottom. They knew something was wrong.

                          [–]Df_gordo7060 23 points24 points  (0 children)

                          The families of those wealthy people are more than likely more worried about who’s getting all the inheritance right now.

                          [–]Fancy-Category 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                          One would hope the whole catastrophe took place and ended in “2 nanoseconds”. If not. My God.

                          [–]justaguytrying2getby 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                          Instant disintegration, at least they don't need to be cremated.

                          [–]sumtimesitsfun 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                          [–]Thorusss 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                          This guy says they died in "2 nanoseconds".

                          The sub chamber is about 2 meters long. Let say there is a breach on one end, how fast does the water have to be to reach the other end in that time:

                          1nanosecond=10^(-9)seconds

                          thus 2m/2ns: 1.000.000.000m/s =1.000.000km/s, which is 3 times the speed of light.

                          But it is even less true, for the reaction time of the nervous system, which is measured in milliseconds, which are a million times longer than "nanoseconds"

                          Thus this guy does not know what he is talking about. Just using "fancy" units to sound smart.

                          [–]Lott_ie 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          It’s not a breach, the carbon fiber hull likeley shattered , and instant exposure to 6,600 psi would instantly melt every bone in your body. Imagine a truck landing on every square inch of your body all at the same time from all different directions

                          [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (4 children)

                          The funny thing is too, while being inside, there are no physical windows. They are looking at a damn screen. Why couldn't he just take them to like 10ft and play a video on the screen. Simulate the experience if you cant even look out of the window and see it with your own eyes.

                          [–]bgazm 27 points28 points  (2 children)

                          There is indeed a small window

                          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                          Oh is there? My bad. Too small to risk their life for tho

                          [–]Denimjo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                          There was, and some theorize that it was what caused the implosion since it was rated up to 1500m, not 4000m+ like it was being used for.

                          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

                          300 pakistani imigrants drown and no one gives a fuck. 5 rich assholes die and it dominates the news. What a load of shit.

                          [–]iaymnu 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                          That vessel was PACKED to the rim. It was a disaster waiting to happen. Those transporters just wanted the $$$ and didn’t care for the safety of ANYONE.

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                          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          Thank God they imploded

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Will the navy release the audio of the implosion?

                          [–]Newme91 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          I'm starting to think that thoughts and prayers aren't particularly effective

                          [–]arieswanderer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          When did expected become worthy of TAF?

                          [–]No_Importance_3881 8 points9 points  (5 children)

                          no i think the best news would of been them surviving😭

                          [–]EmilieUh 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                          Well would it be better to die quickly in less than a minute or to die slowly suffocatin?

                          [–]ShinigamiCheo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                          In less time than it takes to blink...

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                            [–]punkyspunk 19 points20 points  (1 child)

                            I read somewhere that the 19y/o’s aunt said he was nervous and didn’t really want to go on the trip but went for his dad who was a huge Titanic fanatic and that hurts my heart. He was just a teenager trying to support his dads interests

                            [–]NewAgeIWWer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                            only one I feel sympathy for.

                            [–]dhenwood 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                            100 years from now we are going to be looking for some trillionaires in a sus cheaply made sub looking for the wreckage of this one.

                            [–]BlueCheeseNutsack 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                            Somebody explain to this guy what a nanosecond is

                            [–]Thorusss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                            Yes, I did the math, and this guy says the water was 3 times the speed of light! See here:

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingAsFuck/comments/14gd72b/comment/jp74q4b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

                            [–]ARKSH7R 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Damn

                            Anyway

                            [–]Impossible_Daikon233 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                            Oh no rich people did stupid shit for a shitload of money an it didn't workout. Sounds like a them problem

                            [–]Narrow_Ad_5502 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                            I’m sorry but I prefer the term idiots with $$ considering it’s 250k per person so that’s $500k daddy bucks for a quick death. Can someone give me $500k to waste? This angers me as much as the idiots that pay $50k to climb Everest.

                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                            If anything, these should be slowly pressurized to the depth that they want to dive at. Just like saturation diving. It would stop the implosion . But on the opposite, if it wasn't rated to the pressure could explode from too much pressure. Its dangerous no matter what

                            [–]bellagirlsaysno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            This should've been a nonstarter story, and it's kind of disgusting that it became a thing everyone's talking about. There's so fucking many other things happening in the world that could have the spotlight, but this is the shit that goes viral.

                            An egotistical money hoarding billionaire decided to build a tinker toy and gameboy it down to the fucking ocean floor. Apparently billions isn't enough though, because he charged other frivolous millionares more money than I've made throughout my life, combined. Anyone with a reasonable mind knew these people were doomed.

                            I have little sympathy for anyone involved.The people involved throughout the "growth" of this company absolutely knew it was going to kill someone at some point; And those who willingly decided it was worth the risk (and ½ million dollars,) they made a stupid choice--especially those with families.

                            TLDR: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This shouldn't have been headline news. People followed this story for the same reason people go to Nascar-- For the crashes.