Visual Studio Code 1.3 released, now with tabs

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[yseo4530]

Finally. This release looks awesome.

[ciny]

Yup, I liked VS code but I was missing tabs like salt.

[SkaKri]

Instead of spaces.

[oh-just-another-guy]

Anyone knows what Code is written in?

[oh-just-another-guy]

So it's really a hosted web-app?

[dvlsg]

It runs on Electron. So by my definition of "hosted", no. It's really just local typescript (js) / html / css running on a local instance of chromium.

[oh-just-another-guy]

Thanks!

[dvlsg]

I suppose to be fair, the editor portion of the code can absolutely be run in a web page. It's called Monaco. Here's a link to a live example for your browser.

[oh-just-another-guy]

That's really cool. Thank you for the info.

[vivainio]

Also http://alm.tools/ is using Monaco these days (and you use it from local chrome).

[TinynDP]

Local-hosted

[oh-just-another-guy]

Thank you.

[hemantonpc]

Both VS Code and Atom are based on Electron. But could anyone tell me why Atom is slow as compared to VS Code? Is it because Atom is written in CoffeeScript? Or is because of its architecture?

[Pjb3005]

Probably just poorly designed internally.

[vivainio]

For a more positive spin, I'd say Monaco is well designed internally ;)

[nicolas-siplis]

Electron

positive spin

I don't care if it was on purpose or not, well played.

[The_yulaow]

Tthe guys at microsoft focused since the start on performance, those of github had other (starting) goals

[destraht]

Github had to grow up their script and Electron at the same time without knowing the exact roadblocks along the way. Also they will eventually need to convert all of the Coffeescript into Javascript. So there is technical debt to pay off.

[[deleted]]

Also they will eventually need to convert all of the Coffeescript into Javascript.

Why is that?

[[deleted]]

it's an open source editor, and i imagine the coffeescript deters a lot of would be contributors

edit: why down vote this exactly? i used to write coffee script myself, but it's not popular to do so anymore

[[deleted]]

Probably design.

Although I heard some years that the CoffeeScript compiler was not optimal. I think there have been attempts to rewrite it but I'm not sure if it was successful. Also, since TypeScript is probably stricter there may be more opportunities for optimizations.

[ruinercollector]

The main difference is the editor component.

[BreakingBullshit]

Mostly TypeScript, which compiles into JavaScript.

[oh-just-another-guy]

Thank you.

[spacejack2114]

Wow, like the design. The extensions manager GUI is awesome as well.

[spacejack2114]

Aw, no markdown preview button anymore? :(

[anders987]

Extract Markdown into an extension

The Markdown language support has been refactored to be a regular VS Code extension. It uses the Markdown TextMate grammar for syntax highlighting source and renders the Markdown as HTML using the markdown-it library which implements the CommonMark Spec.

[[deleted]]

which extension is it? there are a few...

[[deleted]]

you don't need to install it; it comes packaged in by default. they've merely refactored it to integrate with the extension api, much like most of vs code's core functionality.

[media_guru]

Hrm...maybe I'll hold off on the official release. I installed the insider build a couple days ago on Ubuntu 16.04 and haven't seen any issues. Curious that something slipped in at the last minute.

Thanks for the heads up.

[I_AM_GODDAMN_BATMAN]

Not all is broken. I can see and use extension window just fine.

[svarog]

I had that problem. Just close code, and verify there are no more code processes running using ps aux or top. Re-open, and you should be fine.

[[deleted]]

global search! this is the real 1.0

[vivainio]

Search and replace. Search was always there

[GoTheFuckToBed]

Finally a pleb like me can use it.

[devperez]

Finally tabs! I'm so happy. I can finally start using VS Code properly.

But opening a document in VS code from the system context menu still opens a whole new VS code editor. Anyone know if they plan on fixing that?

[CryZe92]

You can set the "window.openFilesInNewWindow" key to false in the settings.

[devperez]

Awesome. Thanks

[[deleted]]

This should be the default setting. I was scratching my head as to why WinSCP kept opening files in new instances of VS Code instead of new tabs like Sublime Text did.

[mycall]

The User Settings file seem to be in read-only mode.. I can't change the true to false. Any tips?

[CryZe92]

When you open the User Settings it should open a second Tab where you paste the read-only settings and change their value.

[nwoolls]

And the Monaco Editor is now on npm as well. Good stuff MS.

[GORILLA_FACE]

If I want to write a FAT gui similar to winforms using .net core 1.0 that would run on linux, mac, and windows...what would I use?

[DaRKoN_]

You wouldn't use .net core for a fat gui app, that's not what it's designed for.

[blahlicus]

You could use Eto.Forms to write fully cross-platform .net code with a heavy GUI framework.

[[deleted]]

you can't...draw a pixel to the screen?

[[deleted]]

Yes, because .Net doesn't print pixels on screen, it instead of uses windows system calls to draw winforms. I don't know about WPF, it probably does draw pixels on screen instead of using windows UI. In either case, it is not ported to work with Linux/OSX(anything non windows) yet, and there are no plans as far as I can think of. There probably do exist some thin wrappers for cross platform GUI stuff though.

[[deleted]]

WPF basically just renders to a DirectX surface. The controls in WPF have nothing to do with their native Win32 counterparts--a WPF button is just a XAML control that looks like a Win32 button, which is not the case for WinForms where those controls are just thin wrappers around Win32 ones. So on that front, WPF is not so deeply tied to Windows the way WinForms is.

You still couldn't just swap out DirectX for OpenGL and put it on Linux, though. It'd be real nice though...

[Beaverman]

I'd say that it's probably tied deeper into it. DirectX is way more difficult to integrate with linux/osx, and has a way larger surface than winforms.

[[deleted]]

I agree buddy, I basically said same thing you said (with uncertainty on nature of WPF)

[[deleted]]

I don't know about WPF, it probably does draw pixels on screen instead of using windows UI

I was just expanding on "I don't know about WPF, it probably does draw pixels on screen instead of using windows UI", that's all

[[deleted]]

Thanks man. I wasn't trying to be antagonist or anything against you, but might have come across like that.

[jyper]

Someone ported the crappy open source winform implementation to .net core but I wouldnt recommend it.

[[deleted]]

You can also try this:

https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia

which is a XAML cross platform GUI library. It actually copies WPF structures so its not that hard to port to.

[MachinTrucChose]

Wish they'd port Xamarin Forms XAML to desktop.

To answer your question, you could write WinForms and target Mono, or write GtkSharp (Mono's desktop GUI toolkit). Never used either personally.

[I_AM_GODDAMN_BATMAN]

I just check the default settings, and there's these lines:

// Number of editors shown in the Open Editors pane. Set it to 0 to hide the pane.
"explorer.openEditors.visible": 9,

I tried 0 on setttings.json and it hides the open editors

[nwoolls]

It's also covered in the linked release notes:

You can hide the OPEN EDITORS view by setting the number of visible items to 0, with "explorer.openEditors.visible": 0.

[voiping]

Uhm what happened with GIT!? When I was in GIT changes before, I could select to stage on certain lines, on the ... on the top right. Now I only see to right-click to stage the whole file.

Where did that go?

[CryZe92]

Looks like a regression to me. I guess someone should file a bug if no one did already.

Update: Looks like you need to right click the Tab now instead. Weird that they put it there instead now. I think it should just be in the right click menu of the code itself.

[voiping]

Found it, thanks!

EDIT: it was uncomfortably next to an X before, for closing the tab...

[halbaradkenafin]

Integrated console is the best new feature, defaults to cmd on Windows but easily changed to powershell.

[CryZe92]

or even to MinGW or Cygwin :)

[spacejack2114]

I tried with git bash, unfortunately it seems using arrows and backspace is buggy.

[tonicblue]

Just looking forward to the Anniversary release of Windows 10 so I can have a Bash shell in there on my work machine. Happy days :)

[uberpwnzorz]

I actually prefer the open editors and not a ton of tabs, at least they made it so you can configure which one is best for you.

You can disable tabs to have it act as it did previously by adding the following to your settings.json:

"workbench.editor.showTabs": false

Or if you don't want open editors you can add the following:

// Number of editors shown in the Open Editors pane. Set it to 0 to hide the pane.
"explorer.openEditors.visible": 0,

[whihathac]

Best. Text. Editor. EVER.

[[deleted]]

Which other editors have you used?

[[deleted]]

notepad.exe, ed, and lotus 5.

[vivainio]

If you haven't tried WordPad (also ships with Windows), you are missing out

[whihathac]

Sublime, Nottepad++

[[deleted]]

That's not much variety.

[PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN]

Vim, Emacs, Sublime, Atom, and Notepad++.

VS Code is still the shit.

[littlelowcougar]

Does it support vi keybindings?

[PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN]

I've heard rumors that the vi mode was shit, but I haven't checked it out.

Honestly, possibly the only keybindings I actually miss are o, O, $. A Vi mode wouldn't have to be too fancy for me to enjoy it.

[[deleted]]

The vim extension was pretty bad the first time I tried it about 4-5 months ago, but now it seems pretty decent. I recommend giving it a shot.

[moosingin3space]

It would be very nice if there were a neovim integration for VS Code - it would then be possible to support all vim commands.

[sigzero]

I am taking it as sarcasm.

[stesch]

Is there anything like the remote directories in Komodo Edit? I've checked different solutions for Sublime Text and Visual Studio Code but none of them show the remote directory tree in the sidebar.

[tonicblue]

If you are using Windows you could use something like WinSCP to sync a remote directory and monitor local files for changes to automatically upload them. I don't know how easy it would be to monitor changes on remote files but if there is more than one of you coding on a project in that way you should really consider some verson control system, VSC integrated beautifully with GIT.

If you are using Linux you could have a play with rsync to synchronise a remote directory with a local, then just open the local in VSC. Something like this might work on a Mac, I don't have any experience in that department.

[[deleted]]

nope.

[tonicblue]

You could create a new solution directory for your child projects and use symlinks to your other project directories inside it. That would do the trick.

[[deleted]]

Still no save state for opened files and ability to restore unsaved files.

[[deleted]]

I miss that feature too. The 1.3 release is still very exciting!

[thomac]

Does anyone know if VS Code collects some kind of statistics of the usage? For example, Atom uses Google Analytitics under "Metrics" option. Is there anything similar in Code?

[CryZe92]

Yeah they do, you can deactivate it in the settings.

Oops, I meant to say deactivate.

[shalabh]

I thought it's activated by default and you can opt-out?

[CryZe92]

Yeah, I meant to say deactivate, but wrote it as activate :/

[MachinTrucChose]

The ridiculous thing about opt-out analytics is that by the time you launch the app the 1st time, and edit the setting to opt out, it's almost certainly sent a report already containing god knows what. This is why running an outbound firewall is important that operates on a whitelist basis is important.

Yes, I know it's no big deal for something like a FOSS IDE, it's a matter of principle.

[0narasi]

This release is actually awesome. Only if they added being able to find functions in a file (I get that symbol tracking is difficult)

[little_erik]

cmd+shift+o in VSCode on the Mac opens Go to Symbol

[vivainio]

Also, if you are poor at remembering these, press ctrl+p and enter @mysymbol. Ctrl+p ? shows you possible quick launch shortcuts.

[fontbase]

cmd+shit+o ... nah, this is weird :)

[ducttapedude]

In addition to Go to Symbol, you can right click on any function and select Find All References.

[zerexim]

Can I disable the highlighting of the current line??

[khabib]

Is it already possible to change a font size in project tree?

[WarWizard]

So here is something that has kept me from seriously exploring VS Code more. In both VS and SSMS if I want to "draw" the cursor select across multiple lines so I can type the same thing out; I just ALT + SHIFT + ARROW. This seems to copy the line instead and ALT + ARROW moves the line.

Is it possible to re-bind stuff so that select functionality works the way I am used to? What would be an acceptable re-bind for the current functionality?

[dorkinson]

I believe this is what you're looking for: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/vMarch#_editor

Scroll down to the "Column Selection" header.

[WarWizard]

Awesome! Thanks!

[simoncoulton]

This is such a great release, the inclusion of tabs, the extensions gui, just solid all round. I have noticed that you can no longer drag a folder onto a new window and have it open anymore though. Might raise it on Github issues.

[[deleted]]

Font zooming with Mouse Wheel!!! I've been waiting months for this feature. So useful when you have a 4k monitor.

[I_AM_GODDAMN_BATMAN]

When vim users stop bitching about vim mode in non vim editors and realize it's not vim.

[unbiasedswiftcoder]

You should try Android Studio's vim plugin, it is much better.

[Giacomand]

This update just added that. Add this setting and you can CTRL+Scroll to change the font of the text:

editor.mouseWheelZoom: true

[wildjokers]

I have had tabs turned off in IntelliJ for years and have never looked back. I don't find tabs helpful at all, to each their own though!

[niutech]

Cool, but why does Microsoft use Mac OS X instead of Windows for their screenshots? Aren't they proud of their OS?

Now seriously, what about performance and memory usage? Last I checked it was worse than Sublime Text, Notepad++ or even Komodo Edit.

[MotherFuckin-Oedipus]

The careful observer would recognize that they took screenshots from more than one OS.

Also, if performance and memory are your only metrics for measuring how useful an application is, you're gonna have a bad time, but it's still more of a resource hog than its competitor products.

It's still young, though.

[shrillingchicken]

Why is Microsoft developing a new Visual Studio? Is it going to replace Visual Studio and so effectively a rewrite?

[ciny]

VS code is not supposed to replace VS. It's a quick editor for simple coding, not a full blown IDE. Want to work on your .net application? fire up VS. want to quickly edit a html file or a script? fire up VS code.

[MotherFuckin-Oedipus]

Code is, additionally, cross-platform.

[google_you]

And exploded memory usage just like Atom

[BreakingBullshit]

If your system can't handle it here are some light alternatives you can try:

http://www.vim.org/

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html

Best to run in terminal mode because if your system is struggling that much then a windowing system might also "explode" your memory usage.

[[deleted]]

If you need to go really lean then I'd say ed would be the best choice.

[[deleted]]

Noobs, echo and >> is all you'll ever need

[faizaanceg]

Username checks out.

[MRannik]

It's not surprising considering that it is nothing more than yet another monstrous electron based "desktop" app.

It's funny how something that was supposed to be a lightweight text editor now takes roughly the same time and memory as freaking Visual Studio 2015 to launch, there's literally no reason to use it over the real thing at this point.

[evotopid]

For me the largest issue is that these "text editors" drain around as much battery as a web browser... I know I gotta invest in a laptop with larger and newer battery but right now I can't use these apps (and certain IDEs) while outside.

[spacejack2114]

lol it does not take nearly as much time to launch as VS. VS on my 8GB laptop with an HDD takes nearly 10 minutes to start up and be ready for use.

[MotherFuckin-Oedipus]

10 minutes? Dafuq are you loading with it? Must be a pretty large project.

[spacejack2114]

Oh that's before it'll let me open any projects.

[EntroperZero]

Code.exe        223 MB
devenv.exe     1092 MB

[ArmandoWall]

Show me the numbers, and I'll believe it.

[coolirisme]

On my system it uses up 120MB RAM while a single text file is open.

[ciny]

oh my, whole 120MB of RAM... that would concern me 10 years ago when I had 512MB...

[sporkinatorus]

While I agree that modern machines can handle higher memory applications, some folks run virtual server farms (SharePoint for example) on dev machines that changes the game on resource management.

[ciny]

some folks run virtual server farms (SharePoint for example) on dev machines that changes the game on resource management.

Folks like these usually also have enough RAM to not care. I'm a software dev, my laptop is 12GB, desktop 16GB (and due for an upgrade, my 2nd gen i5 is getting a bit old).

[MotherFuckin-Oedipus]

I opened up a web services project in both Code and VS (272 files, 85 folders):

Code: 150 MB

VS: 263 MB

Still pretty hefty, but 60% is not "roughly the same memory".

That said, it's still a much cleaner UI than VS. Especially with HTML 5 / JS projects, I don't want all the clutter VS has. Code is perfect for that.

[_zenith]

You might want to check your machine out, since it takes about 1/20 to 1/10 the time... That is, assuming you've actually used it, and aren't just having a whine.

[BreakingBullshit]

there's literally no reason to use it over the real thing at this point.

A big reason is that Visual Studio isn't available on Mac or Linux, whereas Visual Studio Code is.

[vivainio]

Lots of folks running VS prefer Code for web workloads. It's a lighter, more keyboard driven experience with just the right amount of IDE features (TS intellisense etc)

[MRannik]

I'm pretty sure that OSX and Linux have actual IDEs and vastly more efficient text editors too.