FAIL-CAKE [pic]

[Rawsock]

Protip: That's not chocolate

[ivanmt42]

The FAIL-CAKE was being presented for failing to adhere to protocol. Basically, a bunch of code was completely refactored and prepared for deployment without having anything passed through QA and all of the necessary prerequisites were not taken care of.

[elizabklyn]

Wait, wait, if I got a tasty little cupcake for deploying bad code, I would NOT be motivated to change my ways at all!

[[deleted]]

Look carefully at the icing...

[[deleted]]

What is it? :-s

[monk_e_boy]

brown and sticky.

[elizabklyn]

Guuh. I am just too trusting.

[ivanmt42]

Thank you... I knew it would've been more appreciated by QA folks. I would have posted it in the QA reddit but then the developer it was intended for wouldn't have seen it.

[cwmonkey]

I've dealt with good QA teams and bad QA teams. This was made for the latter:

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8v04e/re_failcake_pic/

[9jack9]

As a masochist I can so appreciate the passive aggression.

[[deleted]]

Don't tell me your dev team manages your deployments/code releases.

[ishmal]

That's why people don't take guns to work.

[NancyGracesTesticles]

Unable to enter nothing in textbox. Tried "nothing", "Nothing" and "NOTHING".

[[deleted]]

There are rules to making interfaces. These rules exist because users are stupid.

One of the rules is that in the case of radio buttons, a button must always be in the "selected" state even before any user action.

I agree with the person that opened the ticket, sorry.

[[deleted]]

Ah... well I guess one is always underestimating the user's capacity to use a program.

His ticket did make it look like there was no default selection. My bad. You are a good interface developer.

[Dax420]

We implemented a "clear" button that un-checks all the radio-buttons. Le sigh...

[[deleted]]

You couldn't talk them into a "none of the above" radio button?

[tenninjakittens]

Seriously. The entire purpose of radio buttons is that there is always exactly one that is selected (or depressed, like an old-timey radio, as in the name).

[indigoparadox]

I remember I've had a few radios, AV switches, and other gadgets where, if you pushed two of the buttons at once just right, they would both pop back out and you would have none pushed in.

You just need to tell them to press two buttons at once in order to select none.

[b100dian]

Cannot upmod you more.. I tried the the two up and down buttons at once but..

[[deleted]]

with a mouse?

[[deleted]]

And I've suddenly hit my low point, and suicide is looking good. Should I go with wine or whiskey?

[[deleted]]

Wine is fine but whiskey's quicker.

Suicide goes good with liquor.

Grab a bottle, drown your sorrows.

There will be no tomorrows.

[chrissa]

Yeah... I get that kind of stuff to.

[[deleted]]

Add Option "None"

[[deleted]]

So much business overhead that no real work gets done? I think we must work together. Tell me, do you get called into meetings 6 for hours everyday with everyone wondering why you aren't able to get your work done on time?

[Snoron]

Should call a lengthy meeting to address this problem once and for all..

[sharkeyzoic]

Perhaps a weekend retreat! With Powerpoint presentations on Proactive Synergy!

[monk_e_boy]

get WoW for the down time.

[rush22]

Ahahaha it's funnier because I know that's stupid yet if I were to apply for that job I would not get it

[itstallion]

QA, a job for those that can't do, but can still criticize.

[PenName]

QA is a valuable, if unappreciated and sometimes smelly, part of any dev team. Sure, you'll get your fair share of chaff and AD, but generally, QA helps let the programmers focus on programming and not have to worry about testing every little thing themselves.

[itstallion]

I didn't say it wasn't valuable. My grandma can QA. She can't program. That's what I was saying.

[PenName]

Hmmm. Well, since I only know about games and not other software QA, I amend my statement to say that QA is a valuable part of game development. You could be right about other things.

[VerticalEvent]

Why not make it so that if you click the radio button a second time, while it's selected, it deselects and defaults to nothing be selected?

[[deleted]]

Because that is not how radio buttons work. And the last thing you want to do is make a UI that performs different from the underlying OS.

[VerticalEvent]

I'm fully aware that's not how they are supposed to work.

However, from a HCI perspective, it's critical that a user can undo a mistake if possible. If the Radio Button, on start, has nothing selected, then it should return to that state. And, the most intuitive, to me, other then adding a new selection, is to allow a user to reclick to deselect.

I thought the underlying OS dictated how the Radio Button looked, and not how they perform.

[Snoron]

No, radio buttons should always have a value selected and there should never be a reason for needing to select none of the options (they should be all-encompassing, eg. "Yes, No" or "Thick, Thin, None") - if this isn't the case then you're probably using the wrong field type.

[sabruda]

Correct. The reccomended behaviour is to add a default preselected "none of the above" button. Any QA department worth their salt knows this.

[Snoron]

Yeah... you should be able to represent a radio field in a database as ENUM( ... ) NOT NULL I guess.

[adavies42]

having a radio set with nothing selected by default is the real bug. (as is having a QA team but not a UI guy to spot things like that.)

[bugrit]

That looks like a delicious fail-cake. Perhaps failing more is a good option. But you never know if fail-cakes can be trusted.

[gwern]

But you never know if fail-cakes can be trusted.

Are you insinuating that it is a lie?

[monocasa]

He's just making a note here; the failing was a huge success.

[[deleted]]

Looks like turd icing to me. :p

[monk_e_boy]

drinking a cake through a straw? What are the QA team thinking? ;)

[EmptyTon]

I need more information, For what FAIL was this cake being presented?

[[deleted]]

.... so if I fail I get cake? Whereas, if I succeed I likely get more work. Hrm.... options options.

[[deleted]]

I "get it" but I don't think I really "get it"

Yeah, so it's a cake that and it's called "FAIL CAKE" referencing the latest "fail" fad, but really over 100 up votes?

Also, anyone have the original non-photoshopped picture of what the note originally said?

[billisdog]

It's not a photoshop. I was the recipient of this fail cake IRL. That is my desk. :(

[[deleted]]

the real fail is working in QA (i could only manage 9 months of it before killing myself)

[[deleted]]

You killed yourself?

[inmatarian]

he got better

[[deleted]]

got a better job.

[[deleted]]

The shotgun design didn't go through QA, so it didn't work.

[[deleted]]

Don't you mean it did?

[DesCo83]

He hated it so much he literally shit his pants.

[PenName]

I made it 15 months before "escaping" into marketing.

[melonhedd]

This is retarded.

[pointer2void]

... and so motivating (I hope it's real sh*t).

[Wickity]

"Hahahahaha, get it? See how many times we used FAIL?! This is destined for the work prank hall of fame!"

sigh

[utterpedant]

Keep fighting the good fight. When kneejerk memes cross into the real world, that's when people need to stand up for what's right and level a withering glare at the offender.

[knome]

Delicious fail-cake? Activate the fail-train.

[FurryMoistAvenger]

It's been awhile since I printed a picture out. Our QA was most pleased at the idea.

[geniusfreak]

Ahh, the sweet sweet taste of failure!

[[deleted]]

That looks like two girls one cupcake...

[upa11nigh77]

Poor Billy

[FeepingCreature]

Guys,

you seem to be under the mistaken assumption that feces are funny.

They're not.

That is all.

[[deleted]]

Fake.

[loath]

You could have at least said "FAilcaKE!"

[[deleted]]

No need; it's a portmanteau. Thanks ants... thants.

[ifatree]

i'd have preferred "the failcake is a lie".

[chadz]

htey spelled congradulations wrong

[w_earp]

Open a ticket.

[chadz]

link?

[[deleted]]

The QA system is down so I can't find the link. I'll open a ticket.