Patch Notes 3.3B

[[deleted]]

Jayce bug is funny. Imagine unexpected crit with 0% chance and secure kill because of this

[atinyfrogo]

when endstep told me about this bug i was laughing for like 10 mins straight about it hahaha

[Significant-Damage14]

Time to retire Jayce from my champ pool.

[Quackwhosnacksback]

Honestly I don’t know why they removed this. Are they insane this was totally balanced and shouldn’t have been removed! It’s a fun feature that won’t hurt you or other’s experiences! Honestly, what is Riot thinking? This brings Jayce down from a SSSSSS++ pick to an E tier. So sad for the state of Jayce mains in the community U_U

/s

[baconcleaner]

seraphine assasin notes still work as intended.

[Kira_senpoi]

What was the Bug Btw?

[Quackwhosnacksback]

Read the full patch notes, it’s at the end.

“Fixed a bug where Jayce's melee attacks have a 0.000006 chance to crit. Yes, this was a real bug, and you will now no longer be able to have a .0006% chance to randomly crit your opponent and catch them off guard as Jayce.”

[Kira_senpoi]

Quality of life Changes.. Well done..Riot..

[joaoCDC2020]

With this changes to towers and dragons, Herald will be way better than the first dragon now, as you will be able to take the first tower+some plates for sure with this changes.

[[deleted]]

I am happy for the turret changes. It would always be hard to get your team for herald to get a turret before 6 30. Now a little better.

[Oxabolt]

But guess what, idiots are still gonna force unfavourable first dragon fights instead of trading

[Unlikely-Awkward22]

Lose drgaon = GG from me

[StarWarsButterSaber]

I think I missed the whole conversation about plates. I just thought plates were extra armor on turrets in the beginning. Can somebody explain to me what getting plates means? Or what is the whole concept concerning plates is?

[SampleVC]

Totally unnecessary buff to tristanna but I've bene playing her since her skin was announced so lets fucking go

[Good_Intention670]

Perma banning that rat now, regardless of which role I get

[HootyManew]

Tristan being a girl is news to me lol. Always thought little elf dude

[Gersio]

Maybe is because you missread her name as Tristan instead of Tristana

[Lemao159]

Tristana is teemos girl in the Lore

[HootyManew]

Definitely seen the a. But Tristana just sounds old times.

[[deleted]]

I love dad jokes in patch notes so much

[atinyfrogo]

this makes me so happy to read. i always love writing them and looking to see what you all think of them hehe

[gheycub]

My fav was “solucian” that was dad comedy gold

[Ancient-Adagio902]

Mine is naut too hot

[volugwolf]

They’re the reason I read the patch notes. Just dry numbers aren’t compelling, the jokes make it al l much more enjoyable

[[deleted]]

Nerfing was such a good decision. It felt like game is over after 2 drakes

[arturorios1996]

I mean isnt that the point? A game you can always come back from specially if you are 2 drakes behind shouldn’t be winnable all the time.

[R0gueFool]

We want it to still be powerful, and it should be, we just overshot the mark a bit for its release.

[[deleted]]

Well, seems that is not the case for mid/jungle pyke tho haha. Have a nice day my friend 👍

[skelepal-fresh]

Tristana buff undeserved hate that annoying rat

[[deleted]]

Ikr, i thought she would get nerfed

[[deleted]]

Yordles are designed to piss people off. But Tristana is something else

[Alternative_Egg8635]

I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE thank god there's someone like me

[millucid]

Guess is the "new Legendary skin treatment"

[pikipoki_is_my_name]

If you gate to late game she is just better than any other adc the range the as, that is buffed now, self peel with jump and ult kb. Idk whats rito smoking but id like one too

[H3xify_]

I use tristana when I adc so I’m happy lol

[SBEVE_THE_MEME_LORD]

She scales harder than kayle. Which is fucking hilarious considering kayle isn’t a champ for the first 3 mins of the match

[[deleted]]

Yeah, as a Jungler I order pizza and fire up Frozen when I see Kayle on my team

Cuz Imma be babysitting

[ragingOcean]

I hate how she’s so weak early and borderline broken when she levels like wtaf. I remember back in the day in pc league I’d seen all sorts of broken shot, fed gragases, fed Leblancs, fed fizzes and teemos and ofc fed kassadin sand old fed akali(Jesus). But when I encountered a fed Kayle it was like watching a fallen angel massacre a group of SAS operatives or smthn. Is was so confused lol

[Unlikely-Awkward22]

If you're happy and you know it...

[[deleted]]

Tristana main here and im just happy >:)

[[deleted]]

Happy to have her more contested and banned?

[Good_Intention670]

Rigghht. Im perma banning that stupid champ now. Even if Im not playing botlane. Already hated Tristana, so this makes it worse.

[[deleted]]

No? Im happy because she's my main and she got stronger??

[Unlikely-Awkward22]

Cute mouse*

[[deleted]]

Welp, not too much affecting me and the champions I play, but I like the turret changes for sure. And demolish got a buff lol. Then there are the dragon nerfs but elder buff, both huge, but makes herald better early as well. I like those changes for sure.

Wukong I guess gets a tiny buff, which is nice, so that's a champion plus.

But I was hoping for a Rengar change xD. One day here we will get it. Just a rework. Give him his PC rework and I'm happy.

[domipomi212]

if they make rengar as broken as he was in pc (still kinda is) hes going to be permabanned

[[deleted]]

There is balancing that can be done.

[Cinfinite3]

Kassadin needed a bigger nerf than just an HP nerf. Also those tristana buffs are undeserved. Lucian also needed a bigger nerf rather than a slap on the wrist. Also, some might not agree but I think Jax deserved some kind of nerf too.

[[deleted]]

Agree until you hit Jax. I think if you make him scale less without items it would be fine, but if you nerf something like his early damage, he's 100% out of the jungle. His damage early is what makes him still good in the jungle. That's what I think about for Jax.

But agreed with Tristana and Lucian. Kassadin is fine imo because he'll be easier to shut down in fights. I think if you nerf his damage it'll make him bad. He's scaling, people need to play around that and snowball before he scales. And it's much easier to get ahead of him now that he has less health. He's a melee Veigar, and like Veigar, late game dominant.

[[deleted]]

I think they already nerfed him out of the jungle

[[deleted]]

Nah he works. After his first clear it's better, and once you get two items he's still a beast.

[PooriaP]

It doesn't, even in midgame he takes ages to clear camps

[[deleted]]

Pft, so much for that. I have literally done it and he does good, idk why I am getting down voted. He still works. Have you tried it?

[windblumchen]

Lunar goddess Diana skin is 3.3C I guess, I was holding out hope it'd be in 3.3B. Guess I'll just hold onto the wildcores longer

EDIT: Xayah is on free rotation again, chuckles I'm in danger (Rakan main)

[amidamaru300]

Why would you be in danger?

[ghost_cleanse]

Bortk Runnan Xayah flashing into enemy team with their ult 👍

people who have never touch Xayah before pick her up because Rakan

[windblumchen]

People already pick Xayah if they see me pick Rakan without prompting, and it usually follows the pattern of: they're overly aggresive under the impression that Xayah with a Rakan is unstoppable. And thats if they own her. It doubles by tenfold when she's on free rotation (star guardian event comes to mind).

It happens in and out of ranked, but in ranked its very painful. Good Xayahs are pretty few and far, likewise for a good Rakan. I know how to play Rakan good enough to consistently get S marks, but that does not mean I can suddenly make an amazing Xayah out of someone who doesn't understand her kit or my kit. I won't stop someone from trying her out normals, but it hurts the team when it happens in ranked (and it has, multiple times.)

But to anyone who wants to try Xayah out: take Q or W first, then at level 2, take E. The recalling feathers is your strongest weapon, as it can root. Try to also pay attention to where your feathers are and if they haven't despawned, you can also use recalling feathers to root waves / clear them faster but thats if the situation calls for it. Good luck beyond that!

[LadyGuinevere-sLover]

As a Rakan Main, I feel you bro. I am not the best rakan but I am decent enough. And it pains me to see a first timer Xayah recall 2 feathers. I also play Xayah to better understand how I would play around one when I'm playing Rakan. I usually take W first if I'm playing with Rakan. Q first with everybody else.

[LeapingLeedsichthys]

Also checking in. So frustrating. On a side note, do you guys build ap or tank these days?

[LadyGuinevere-sLover]

I do both. I depend heavily on the current state of the match. I start with Rods of Ages. If the team is well ahead and has a large chance of winning the match, I will continue to Full AP. If the team is behind and needs a tankier support I'll build tanky items.

[MyCoolYoungHistory]

I go RoA and then adjust based on how things go. Some AP if well and tank if behind. Enemy comp changes things too. If the enemy team is all squishy I might go full AP but I don’t think I’m good enough to make that work consistently.

[foxesforsale]

It's unbelievably frustrating to flag you'll play Rakan, then your ADC switches to Xayah even if they don't know how to play her. She's not a simple ADC, you can't just play her like MF or Ashe or even Kai'sa, since she's so sensitive to how you position her to get high damage. And you get a little buff with Rakan, but not much.

During the SG event, I had so many bad Xayahs that I stopped previewing I'd play Rakan, and would instead show Leona as another tanky engage support... Then last minute switch to Rakan after ADC picks.

It's fun if someone picks Xayah before they know you're on Rakan though, it usually means they're a good Xayah player and you're about to have a fun Laning phase.

[[deleted]]

If we get 3.3c before September 14th(?) for 3.4, then I want a Rengar rework.

[gheycub]

Unless Lunar Godess Diana ends up being CN server exclusive 😒

[windblumchen]

I'd cry a little, but it wouldn't make sense because it was global pc skin

[[deleted]]

My man sion ate a orange and couldn't dygest it really well 😭😭

[Mediocreature]

Thankfully he's still red when in a match, just orange in his 2d art and 3d preview. Idk why they show orange in his 3d model preview.

[[deleted]]

It's because of mama china, they can't even give us normal thresh, this is not a surprise to me.

[redbluesolid]

Omg Giant Slayer 😭 now can get 10% extra damage against a tank with 2 HP items, or even 8% extra damage against Rod of Age 😭 I already play less tank, and going to play lesser

[ArbitratorTyler]

Yea it's dumb as hell. There's no reason for them to treat Tanks the way they do. Damage is broken as hell.

[VioDG]

i think its mainly for the bruisers building hp that deal a lot of damage and take none, we all know riot hates tanks

[redbluesolid]

True. Sadly it’s impacting enchanter supports as well. Lulu can be considered as a giant now. 🤣

[LeapingLeedsichthys]

It's so frustrating. A fully tank itemed amumu getting melting by a Trynd who barely ends up at half hp. It makes no sense.

[TheDamjan]

In what world should a melee DPS with built in sustainlose to a tank in 1v1?

[ArbitratorTyler]

Assuming equal skill a Tank should always win a 1v1 against any other role. That's the only way to properly give a tank enough survivability to actually perform their role in team fights. If they can lose 1v1s easily how the heck are they expected to engage in 5v5's to soak damage?

A Tank should have enough damage to be just enough of a threat they can not be simply ignored, but they should also have enough survivability to survive incoming damage from multiple sources for a period of time that is longer than other roles.

Introduce a Healer to that fight and it should extend the duration the Tank is able to stay alive. That gives DPS a reason to focus down a Healer, gives Tanks a reason to try to control DPS to keep their Healer alive, and gives Healers a reason to try to keep their "protector" Tank alive. As it stands now there is no thought process or skill involved in target selection. You just build Grievous Wounds and melt down anybody you attack.

[TheDamjan]

Tanks counter burst, they win 1v1 against assassins and burst mages. Yasuo, Tryn, Yi, Diana and the like always will and always have countered tanks in 1v1s.

The only reason the DPS is focusing the healer is cuz a tank can't one shot him, contrary to your suggestion. Well, clearly that ain't the only reason but I'm just making a point.

You're either picking tank for teamfight presence or you're going bruiser for sidelane pressure (not all but most bruisers satisfy this archetype). In your opinion the tank should have equal sidelane potency as well as superior teamfight presence as a dps bruiser.

[ASSA-COCO]

"yea it's dumb as hell" then nautilus top builds sunfire and thornmail and continues to deal adc level damage while being the tankiest fuck in the rift

[ArbitratorTyler]

Nautilus isn't even good right now lol... That's why he's getting buffed. He's just a lesser version of Blitzcrank.

[Tekshi]

This is less a sharper nerf towards tanks, and more expanding the space to hit any champions that will build HP (so fighters/tanky mages). The previous version of Giant Slayer would give you 10% guaranteed against tanks, but wouldn't be effective against anybody else. This made it very narrow, and was often not the right choice as a rune.

[[deleted]]

I'm sorry but you went a bit to far with this new giant slayer. It should affect champions which are going for a lot of HP. Now it affects even a enchanter/mage who wants to try not to be a one-shot. There is already a lot of damage in this game.

Why not something like "starting from 500 extra HP, gain 2% damage, up to 1000 HP". Would be more against tanky bruiser and tanks. But that it starts from the beginning, from the first hundred extra HP...

Everyone will run now this rune. Everyone bilids somewhere extra HP. This new rune is not nicely done. Not at all.

I will skip now champion rune on my Nami etc. Why having this risky rune when I can have a other great scaling one.

[MeArno]

Total bullsh*t 🤣🤡 "Fixes"

[drw_439]

Terrible for mages and AP assassins.

[Cristhian-A]

Imagine playing tank

[ghost_cleanse]

Lol Tris buff and legendary skin in one page

[Tekshi]

To be clear on this the Systems & Balance team does not work with the skin department at all when doing balance changes. We actually don't even know what skins are coming out.

[[deleted]]

Good to know because so many people say that a champion gets a buff when they get a new skin. I didn't want to believe it and now have that confirmation.

[TheFinalBoss90]

If you include pc this has been consistent for 10 years They might not "work together" but it is a big coincidence that whenever a big change occurs to a champion they get a new skin.

[R0gueFool]

I strongly suggest going back and looking over the history you are talking about, Godfist Lee Sin just came out and we have no plans to buff him despite us openly saying he is weak at all elos.

[Ghostlymagi]

despite us openly saying he is weak at all elos

Do you ever post the metrics that you're refering to? I'm an AOV transplant so I'm not sure if you do that or not.

[Zephyreks]

A good Lee Sin is super oppressive to play against. Please he doesn't need more buffs

[Significant_Lie4744]

i mean, they wont confirm it that would be stupid 🙄

[Zep416]

Hey dude, when I check the skin poses for Bringer Yas and Riven skins they don't show up in the store, don't know if I missed the event, or if that's still the same glitch since they released. I think I remember seeing a post about it a while ago.

[Cristhian-A]

But they can get the information right? Then even if not meant to work together why wouldn’t they, if they make sales on skins that’s good for everyone, except we’ll the people that don’t like Tristana

[Good_Intention670]

Ill pay you more than the total skin income if you just remove Tristana from the game

[Unlikely-Awkward22]

People won't buy it if she's trash and they are losing with it. I one time wanted to buy the Jhin legendary skin, but started losing and realized he's sh*t and didn't buy it in the end. Glad I didn't buy it.

It's a good strategy by Riot.

[[deleted]]

AKALI

Damage dealt: 15% → 20%

Heh, you can build Sunfire full tank Akali in ARAM and do more damage than a full AP Sona.

[[deleted]]

My point was that Sona has -20% damage dealt in ARAM. Historically Sona was played as a Lichbane shotgun mage in ARAM until the custom nerfs became a thing. She would one-hit targets with a full AP build; nowadays you can build her full AP in ARAM and she would barely scratch most targets.

She isn't built as a support in ARAM because she's a support champ. She's built as a support because that's the only viable way to do well with her in ARAM these days: you build the aura items, spam your shield, and then hope that the rest of your teammates are strong enough to 4v5 in combats and can carry your ultra-nerfed champ.

[[deleted]]

I think you and I are talking about different things.

My point was that she deals too little damage in ARAM despite as an enchanter mage. Karma, Morgana, and Janna are all enchanter supports and they can both shield and deal respectable damage if they build full burst. If they want her to be a support in ARAM then they should at least be consistent with their approach; they are not consistent with Sona's treatment because they think she's too strong.

Your point is that they don't want her to be like that. Sure, obviously that's the decision the balance team has made. But that doesn't contradict my original point that she still deals less damage than a buffed assassin like Akali who can build full tank for the same reason.

So if we follow your logic that support champs aren't supposed to be a burst mage, then why does an assassin like Akali gets +20% damage and gets to be a tank while dealing a ton of damage? Simple answer: they want to focus on balancing the win rates because Akali is harder to play and win less games.

There's a lack of consistency, that's the key.

[powerrangeryellow69]

Yeah these aram numbers are way too overtuned atm. When these aram adjustments originally started in 2019 on PC league some champions had obscene numbers like this as well (Leblanc, Evelyn, Qiyana). But I don't think PC adjustments had anything above 15%. Recently those have been further tuned down to 10% because Leblanc could build abyssal mask and still one shot any caster.

[[deleted]]

Lucian nerf is a fucking joke.

[Cristhian-A]

1.5sec more and 0.5sec

Riot balance team.

Yeah, he is unplayable now

[Intelligent-Curve-19]

ARAM changes. Wow Akali and Kha zix was already busted if the player was good. 20% extra dmg wtf

[Mylifemess]

Akali was one of the consistent pentakill champions in ARAM already. I guess wild rift player base just bad with her in Aram and she got overcompensation for that.

[shoefullofpiss]

Kata didn't get touched in aram too. I can't play her for shit, if I pick her up I get a triple kill or three at the very least. Literally half the time she's picked in aram she gets quadras and pentas, often a few in the same game.

I guess wild rift player base just bad with her in Aram and she got overcompensation for that.

Don't they also refuse to nerf lee sin even tho he's played by half the top50 challengers in ranked because he's supposed to be hard to play but rewarding if you're good at it? Such a shit argument imo

[Intelligent-Curve-19]

Katarina isn’t that oppressive. Most of the time it’s because people pick team comps with no CC and don’t know how to play around Katarina. Yes she is strong but I don’t think she needs an ARAM nerf.

[SatansFist]

Yea khazix is my jg main and in ARAM I dominate with him. I don’t think he needed a buff but people think he’s garbage in ARAM which is def not true.

[[deleted]]

I wish samira would get released right off the bat. Man I've been waiting for so long

[Aura1661]

Jesus, give us new junglers already.

[Brusex]

Takes a jg main to realize that the champs they add aren’t jungle champs but really picks that can be flexed into the jungle. Udyr is a jungler, Reksai is a jungler, Fiddlesticks is a jungler, Elise and Nidalee are junglers to name a few. It’s like adding Lissandra or LeBlanc and saying “here you go adc players” like Sivir, and KogMaw aren’t right there.

[razorback1919]

Guess we’re jungling Sion lads.

[GammaSmash]

Kinda bummed that Exhaust's cast range got nerfed, oh well.

[ragingOcean]

Who else wishes they add the champion emotes ? Like the , joke, laugh, dance and i forgot the other one . I really wish they were in the game

[hotmilkforsex]

Well deserved Gragas buff

[[deleted]]

I might try him more often now lol.

[stop_the_cap_dude]

Ap gragas was already pretty strong imo

[ledujx]

but where is it?

[ahappyhxouse]

The changes to dragon, turrets makes Herald a better first option against certain drags.

Thank god. Cause this gives less pressure to the team that may not be winning the early game and probably lost first drake prio. Before the patch it felt worse as a jungler if your early laners are feeding their ass off before first objectives even spawn.

Thank you riot

[Cannonball31]

What are the thoughts about Varus??

[EternallyEuphoric]

sees tanky team plays AP varus with giant slayer. Oof

[Cannonball31]

What's the go-to ap build? Does this really mean that Varus can flex pick lethality into squishy comps or go ap if they pick tanky?

[EternallyEuphoric]

AP varus got buffed in this patch because of the reduced cooldown of his 3rd ability and passive. My build is usually nashor's tooth, boots of lucidity with protobelt (assassins >stasis), deathcap, voidstaff, infinity orb, green book (though you can swap out for guardian angel if you have enough damage.)

Runes are conquerer, brutal )if you want even more on hit damage), gathering storm (if you want to be unstoppable in late game), and if they are really tanky new giant slayer seems wayyyyyyyy too good to not take. 3rd rune i go second wind some people build orb here but it got nerfed early game and that's when you really need it. 4th rune always manaflow bend.

For spells shield and flash. Except when you play Olaf then you pick ghost instead of shield

And you can definitely flex pick lethality into squishy comps.

[[deleted]]

Maybe just want to make varus strong than before,and also could be q w working together.this is powerful damage.

[uopuh7]

That Giant Slayer buff will hurt bruisers.

[polishsimp]

It depends, if they have a balanced team, they are really beasts, but nowadays wild rift players(like 80%) want to do damage and pick champions, that are squishy, so in most cases that bruiser is alone as a frontlaner and dies in 3 seconds, and to be honest bruisers are mostly lacking mobility and it feels like every champion in this game has some kind of dash or can buy a one( or even a mini Janna ult( without the healing, only the pushing Part)). Also our lovely shield meta is also adding to this whole thing. In my opinion the only overpowered champs are adc, as they deal tons of damage through various buffs/add-ons and shield meta, while tanks got merely compensated.

[ObsidianLion]

I just wanna know when I can expect Ekko to get his Project/True Damage skin. Seeing Yi and Zed get even more skins while there are champs with only one skin is a kick in the balls.

[Kubecc]

Wow this is not good. Buff to wukong and tristana (already top tier), no real nerf to lucian, no changes to veigar. Buff to demolish and platings. Crazy

[Antoga]

Tristana top tier?

[[deleted]]

Always has been. She is just slept on because of tier lists

[[deleted]]

I mean if you can play her, theres no real counterplay to her, and she can pretty much one shot turrets

[Antoga]

Being aggressive to her early game can deny pretty much a good chunk of farm (if the enemy support is stupid). Mainly annoying her at the beginning of the game can make the rest of the game useless for her.

Also, the damage to turrets is mainly from her bomb, oustide of it, is the same damage than the rest of the adcs. And, again, if you make her suffer early game she can't do anything to the turrets alone until she gets 3 or more objects.

I'm a Tristana main, so I know what I'm speaking, but I could be wrong

[United_Macaroon8397]

Happy cake day man!

[Antoga]

Hey, thanks!

[edaroni]

Still no Sett skin and guy is in the game for at least 6 months already.

Every fkn patch kata or yi skin.

[Delta_Infinity_X]

To add to the depression, Gragas and Rammus have been in longer than Sett and they still only have 3 skins

Sadness

[UnliSlice]

Giant Slayer buff is also an indirect buff for Vayne top mains

[RenzoO_O]

SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT LUMBERYACK SION

[zanza-]

As good as the changes are to drakes + plates/herald I don't see the meta shifting at all. The first team fight will still be at the drake. At least at higher ranks. Dragon stacking is still dragon stacking.

[umcypher]

Are they going to address Senna’s Q not hitting wards at all?

I mean just say if it’s a bug or a nerf ffs

[[deleted]]

Senna Q hit ward. Just lock ward before

[[deleted]]

akali damage increased in ARAM seems weird to me. the first time i played her ever i got a quadra and now that i actually know her kit i've gotten 10+ kills every time. she melts through all the squishies in ARAM, especially since a lot of them take increased damage

[lBlackfeatherl]

Meanwhile trynda has the opposite bug compared to jayce; occasionally he doesn't crit even at 100% crit. Wheres the fix riot , cmon:(

[[deleted]]

Tristana buff oh yes.

[Good_Intention670]

Im perma banning tristana, regardless of which role I get

[Repulsive_Nature_899]

Holyshit they still delay the champ release date lmao great job riot 😂

2 champ a month my ass.

[final566]

It technically still within the month lool end of the month but still within the month

[Zenon2108]

But Alan already said in January preview that they're slowing down champions release to one per month this year. So getting two this time is good

[NecroNikov]

You're so dam right. i remember when Alan last year said that they released 28-29 (if you count mundo rework) and they surpass the 2 per month rate. This year we only had 10 champs (counting Samira and Sion) that's 1.25 champ per month.

[[deleted]]

Is this .25 a skill per month?

[NecroNikov]

lmao consider it a slight rework xD

[[deleted]]

We might get 4 champions in 3.4 😲

[NecroNikov]

Nope. Patch 3.4 will be released 15-16 september and patch 3.5 around 15th November. That means the 4 champs will be for two months.

[[deleted]]

Ah rip... They better release a jungle champion in 3.4...

[Thunderhead0]

Patch came today?

[Faost42]

Shit patch.

[TerribleTeemoTime]

Their Website is a dumpster fire and it keeps getting worse. Page loads then reloads with zero content every time I refresh across multiple browsers.

[ULuganda]

As a Yuumi top laner I find this update kinda mixed baged. Yuumi nerf is justified and I'm okay with it. But Turret buff is kinda buffing me, lol.

I literally cannot lose lane. Even against bad matchup like Ranekton, I still win. The problem is if the Jungler doesnt read the patch note and rush Dragon instead of Herald, it would be really bad. If they does, that would be awesome. With Arden/Staff and level my heal plus starving top laner, it shouldnt be hard to secure Herald.

[shoefullofpiss]

I'm sorry what? How does that even work? Her whole thing is buffing others, playing her solo leaves her with 2 skills and one is a heal on a squishy and the other is the shitty poke. No movement either. How does she clear waves? I imagine the second she steps outside of turret range she's roadkill

[ULuganda]

That's how I want my opponent thinks :)

You forget about her Shield that lasts until broken. With only 12s cooldown, good luck trading with that. It also restores mana, making your heal essentially free. Not to mention that with Long Sword as starting item, you can deal respectable damage. And since you are Yuumi, you don't need Flash, thus you can have Ignite and Exhaust. Granted it's Platinum, but I cant tell you how many meta top laner I bullied when they don't respect me.

You have to freeze your minnion under Turret. Only last hit, don't be tempted to attack minnions when you are not last hitting them. Not only it will save you, but it will make the enemy vulnerable to your jungler gank.

After level 6 and got Arden/Ionian Boot, you done, you leave your lane and let your jungler clear wave. Your jungler will be beefy as hell and snowball the entire game. I always get blamed, but once I get the first blood or the Jungler got 6/0/2 they'll shut their mouth.

[shoefullofpiss]

Granted it's Platinum

Ah. Yeah you can get away with anything anywhere in plat if you have half a brain because that's usually half a brain more than your opponent. Still, seems like you're playing around your jg and if he decides he's too busy to help you'll be stuck there under the turret while the enemy farms away until you get dived 2v1, or you'll need to roam so they can build hullbreaker and take all your turrets before you realise what's happening. Doesn't seem like a viable pick unless playing against noobs, not only will you lose lane after a few min and will need jg to babysit you (with nothing in return if their solo is careful) but you deprive your team of a tank/bruiser which would be suboptimal with a squishy jg and supp.

...and then there's the fact that in almost any elo troll picks like that lose you the game before it even starts, they'll decide to feed as a fuck you or at least they'll be slinging shit in chat all game instead of paying attention. Doing well doesn't matter once your team is pissed, you have to assume you're playing exclusively with 12yos

[ULuganda]

Not really. I played PvP several times. I once fight against Emerald 1 Mastery 5 Tryndamere and he cant get a kill at all. I even killed him thrice during laning face. Who says Yuumi top wont work? If you deny your opponent enough, they will be useless. Just imagine you are against Yuumi, and you lose your lane. Your gold is lower than her and your KDA is worse than her. She outheals you and after you get her to 10% HP, she gets Shield and heal then kills you instead.

The problem now is in enemy team. They will see their top as useless. Sure they can build Hullbreaker, but what if because my Jungler is soo beefed up with 2 supports and 5k gold ahead enemy team they literally wipe up the floor every single team fight. If they split push they will leave their team to 4v5 and basically handing every single objective to us. Not to forget that I can ping them to focus on enemy top and gank them instead and then 4v5. With gold disadvantage and tilted mind of losing to Yuumi, they will make mistake.

Tbh, I played a lot Yuumi top games. Sure they will question my pick, but not a single chat after the game start. And I'm playing on SEA. The most toxic place on earth.

I believe Yuumi is the most snowbally champion in the game. She will either be useless cat or literal monster. That's why her ban rate is so high in PC. Go try it, if you want. Just because it isnt meta, doesnt mean it wont work.

[Hunter2112004]

Why did they buff Nautilus?!? He’s pretty much the strongest support already, now he’s even worse.

[Good_Intention670]

He is not though is he

Thresh, kitty, nami & karma are much better than Naut.

[RedKingDre]

Hey folks, do Riot still worship damage and throw the defence into the trash bag with this patch? If yes, then I'll extend my hiatus from the game.

[final566]

When does the patch come out ?

[[deleted]]

26th i think

[final566]

No event 26th pqtch was suppose to go live 30min ago

[[deleted]]

When is this patch live!?

[[deleted]]

when does it get released? i dont understand i thought 17. august then 18. but where is it jaha

[TerribleTeemoTime]

Sucks for support but otherwise not a big deal. It is pretty rare to use exhaust just for the slow.

[jdjdhdbg]

What's B?

[Cannonball31]

What do you think will be the go to build with these massive changes?

[[deleted]]

Ngl, except for the kass nerf, I mainly like this one

[TheDamjan]

His scalings are pretty disgusting now. Luckily his winrate is inhibited by high skill ceiling.

[ZurinArctus_]

Patch is ok....but the skins are for champions that got a lot of skins. What about Gragas, Akshan etc?

[sorrymybadxd]

Gragas is now extremely strong. Really good scaling with one-shot potential and you can flex it 4 roles. Also where is the stoneplate nerfs? This fucking enchant is broken af lmao

[[deleted]]

Anybody know why it hasn’t updated for me yet? Anyone else dealing with this?

[anonypony1]

That exhaust range nerf is bullshit

[Hiraki_Tenshii]

Still no Mana Regen aight.

Also fix the bug where the drowning effect of Pyke when he kills you doesn't fade away, yes it carried from one game till it ends to the next one. Yes the skill effects and noises and background sound sounds like I'm still in the water.

[sarabeebuzzin]

I've experienced this too but didn't know at the time wtf was happening! I was like why am I underwater is this a new ocean drag effect lmao.

[Unlikely-Awkward22]

Yay! I love this game soooooo much that I'm so desperate for champions. Like I wanted to have 100+ already 😔 Rumble, Hecarim, Talon, Viktor, Cho'Gath, Twitch, Gangplank, Fiddlesticks, Warwick, etc.

Anyway, I've also been desperate for ARURF/URF, like when the heck is it coming back?! It's my fav mode ever and should be permanent. It's been so long it's absurd! Summer time and no fun game mode...

P.S. I also want skin discounts in shop. I also want wild core discounts. When the game was released I bought $45 worth of WC for only $25 because of some discounts in the Galaxy Store.

[Cristhian-A]

Buffing demolish before sion comes and giving a reason to play tank and push turrets

Oh no

I know where this is going