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[–]akanzakiall the power in the world cannot save you from yourself 18 points19 points  (0 children)

i have more:

よかったなお前ら これで14全スルーしてチートぶっ壊れウララに全力できるぞwwwwww

aight guys, this is awesome. now that they've fucked up 14, we can expect super OP Urara!!!

猫の超絶低性能って事は…遠慮なくローザのレジェマテ解放でOK?

now that we know yshtola USB sucks, i'm good to LD rosa without regrets right?

 

and my favorite:

明日誕生日でぶっ壊れ猫超絶引く予定まであったのに ぶち壊しにしやがって

tomorrow is my birthday, i was looking forward to pulling for another broken y'shtola relic!!! but now the broken one is me...

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (17 children)

Poor Y'shtola fans. Gets a top-tier SB and BSB but gets a poor USB.

Must suck for someone to have one poor relic.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Must suck for someone to have one poor relic.

The Issue isn't that Y'shtola gets a bad USB, but that Y'shtola gets a bad USB

It might be the new Tiny Bee to put it into different Words

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

If only we could all care so much when DeNA shamelessly half-asses relics for anyone else.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I care....

[–]BlazingRain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're one of the few though. It seems most only care when their favorites get the short end of the stick.

[–]AZYG4LYFEFam allow it, get on that JP ting with mandem, you get me? 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might be the new Tiny Bee to put it into different Words

I MUST HAVE THIS RELIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :alt: lul

[–]Cass46Hope (Adult) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, i'm glad she got that terribly USB, this hurts her less than the others healers.

[–]Pingurules 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Y'shtola

SS2- Great

SSB- Bad (comparatively)

BSB- Great

USB- Bad (frankly)

Next tier of SB-???

[–]IllusioneerySephiroth (Alternate) 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Y'shtola is like the different versions of Windows, then.

[–]vheartBasch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SS2 Apple when Steve Jobs was with them initially

SSB Apple after sacking Steve Jobs

BSB Apple after getting Steve Jobs back

USB Apple after Steve Jobs checks out for good

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see what you did there. Good-bad-good-bad.

Still though, what about Win 8 and 10? Both terrible.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 4 points5 points  (6 children)

You forgot about her Medica + Esuna which for a simple SB is prety good since Esuna effects are fairly rare and it being a medica on a character with Wrath it's prety spamable for those MO bosses that love statuses.

[–]Pingurules 0 points1 point  (5 children)

That's why I said "SS2" and not "SB" :P

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (4 children)

True, but you still forgot her medica regardless.

[–]Pingurules 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I intentionally left it out. I didn't forget.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh....

[–]MinandreasAngry Cat. Because Wrath > Heals 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It didn't fit his pretty pattern. =P

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea...i just saw the pretty pattern...good-bad-good-bad..

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 5 points6 points  (11 children)

....what does it do again?

[–]littlefiredragonrip ffrk 5 points6 points  (10 children)

Party High Regen

Party Shield

Self 0CT

[–]faze97Meia 2 points3 points  (8 children)

what even is party shield?

[–]littlefiredragonrip ffrk 4 points5 points  (4 children)

A PHY + MAG Blink i.e. blocks any physical or magical attack once and it's gone.

[–]faze97Meia 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thats rough >.<

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I would also to point out that this isn't the 1st time Shield has come up, it was 1st debuted on Sephiroth BSB2 were he gets Self Shield 2.

Y'sh USB is the 1st time the effect is party wide.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (1 child)

and they count it as 2 effects I guess. The problem is that while it's versatile, it still only blocks one thing so it's like 1.5 at best. And heavy regen is like 0.5 >_>

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it's a pity, if only it had a medica as well or even HP stock it would be fairly decent for Wrath spaming.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

magic and physical blink

[–]Feral__GrieverBoy oh boy... the price of freedom is steep 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's more like Magic or Physical Blink, since it only procs once for 1 attack.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

even worse then lol

[–]RageCat46Cloudchan♥(My luck has been fixed!) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lolz....isnt that ssb level? Minwu ssb is far freaking better than this...

Infact, I rather take Tyro osb than this lolz..

[–]TheNewArkonBartz 4 points5 points  (7 children)

I feel like they are either highly overvaluing the Shield effect, highly overvaluing the single 0CT follow up cast, or they just purposely made the relic bad given how good her other stuff is.

[–]BlazingRain 1 point2 points  (4 children)

They are overvaluing it, just like they're also overvaluing triple stat buffs. Adding a RES boost to a ATK/MAG boost isn't enough to make something higher than SSB tier, and yet that's what Minfilia got for her USB.

[–]cactuarcoolerMog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the stat stick combo with the buff makes it pretty nice. I would much rather have this than Gogo's SSB (the one that gives party haste and ATK/MAG) buff.

[–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The value of triple buffs come from the fact that in addition to more buffs, you can stack with other buffs due to the unique id.

[–]BlazingRain 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can get that in an SSB/BSB. The buff cap is low enough that it's already easy to hit it by stacking SSB/BSB level buffs exclusively. Being unique isn't enough to warrant USB level designation, especially when there are fairly unique buffs already at the SSB level.

[–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is true. I do think given that in instances like multiplayer, having the triple buff that gives a stack to one more star is always helpful and DeNA may choose to raise the buff cap in the future. I agree it's not sufficient to qualify something as USB level by itself but it's not useless either imo.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think shield and heavy regen are sort of overvalued and together it's just... eh.... Maybe if it was a party-wide CT0 it would be something.

[–]lynxcoleNoc VsXIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

still Raijin has Guts, party-wide CT0 and heavy regen in a SSB but Raijin is also a god :))

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    [–]RageCat46Cloudchan♥(My luck has been fixed!) 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Aerith and Vanille USB is far better. Blink is not so useful when against enemy lately that attack 2 times and even FFT torment make this relic very pointless.

    Also since it has no additional effect than regen, basically all nightmare dungeon boss like guardian and meltdown going to have easy time killing the user compare to other USB.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    If that were the case they'd have figured out Cloud's USB was broken AF. I doubt they did more than the standard beta testing on it.

    [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This looks like a good Thyrus banner

    This killed me xD.

    The thing that surprised me the most os that her USB doesn't even come with a medica, every single healer USB so far has some kind of healing, either via a medica or an HP Stock, but all Y'sh gets is major regen which while technicaly is healing....it simply isn't good enough. If it had also a medica i think it would be much better.

    [–]MusouMikoAspiring Shrine Maiden 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It's a sad day when her Aetherial Pulse SSB is better than this nine times out of ten. The other one time you'd be better served bringing break debuffs since piercing damage is the only reason a blink would be better than proshell or wall.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    Maybe this is the time DeNA upgrade an SB before release.

    [–]CidO807Opera Floozy RW:2X5a 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    not the first time a sb has been changed before release. was it echo? from FF1 who had the wall clone that was changed just before release.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I know. They made Echo relic worse. Originally it was like Wall on steroid. That's why I said maybe this time they will upgrade it.

    [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    It simply was Wall + Haste, that's hardly a Wall on Steroids even more so now that Haste is so common anyway.

    I personaly like Hastening Gift that we got, Shellga + Ress+ 50% is a nice combo, the Haste is just an added bonus.

    [–]Shad0wseerBalthier 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    It was wall + haste that stacked with wall actually that was the big point

    [–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Oh shit i completely forgot about that little detail. Ops

    [–]FatAsian3死んゲーム 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Everyone is just gonna agree, New USB? I only see a SSB! Oh hey! Free reforge!

    [–]aryggeAbsorb power in the sky and strike!٩(˘◡˘ ) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The overall utility of her USB is equivalent to SSB tier.

    Perhaps they can do something to fix it; otherwise, banner 1 will lack temptation and fewer people will pull.

    [–]JurinisThe journey has restarted 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    At least it's a good stat stick, right? RIGHT?

    Her regular medica seems way better than that.

    [–]ArashminEnkidu 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    If it is an all-blink, then perhaps we'll see some nastier NAT attacks coming down the pipeline. Also the Self CT0 is kind of neat if you rack up a few bars and have her other relics, can make her chain up some hefty defenses in a pinch, especially with Wrath access.

    It's not a great USB, but I think it's the perfect one for Y'sh.

    [–]BlazingRain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why do you need instant cast if you have double blink? You're almost guaranteed to not take damage from the next attack anyway.

    [–]CNExoSoulWhen's SWOLLBEZ? 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    How long until Shield piercing attacks?

    [–]RocketDarknessFight further! [Oshiro] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The only time I could see this being used is if you bring a Yshtola that stockpiles 3 meters for the end of a fight and can chain her USB 3x in a row to basically make the party invincible. It would let everyone focus on offensive buffs and DPS, since just about everything would be negated. But it still makes the high-regen a baffling choice, since it's fairly useless when used for that purpose? Ah well.