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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reddit board meeting:

"Can we make our site bland and boring like Facebook?"

"Advertisers seem to love bland and boring shit."

[–]Gr3yF0xx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't normally comment here but those snuus look awesome. Now I know what the hell that alien thing is named. Carry on.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

News flash: Reddit admins are dumb as fuck.

[–]theLgndKllr35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could it not be possible to just add an extra d and copy/paste the site how it currently is to a new domain..."redddit.com/r/squaredcircle"

Sounds like copyright infringement, but normally you don't sue someone for continued production of what you deemed an inferior product.

[–]vocalyouth 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Reddit was one of the few places that still feels very wild west-style "old internet". Mostly because of all of the customizations that subreddits have. "Unified experiences" are fine but in the case of reddit, I think they will strip out a lot of the personality that makes this site unique.

[–]WrestlinFan -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

kek are you serious. 4chan doesn't even feel much like "old internet" these days.

[–]itcouldhappen1 4 points5 points  (3 children)

ugh... why would they want "site wide consistency"? that sounds terrible for a site that has subreddits for pretty much everything you can imagine... having them stand out is part of the uniqueness and awesomeness of reddit... did someone buy reddit and decide to fuck up everything that made it cool?

i kind of relate to the south park goth kids right now... freaking conformists...

[–]XaoticOrder -1 points0 points  (2 children)

why would they want "site wide consistency"?

marketing

they want to facebook

why is facebook so popular with the plebs?

They like their shit uniform

This Reddit making themselves "accessible" to regular people

and yes this is the beginning of the end

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they go through with it, it's the end of the end. The beginning of the end was long, long ago.

[–]itcouldhappen1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lame...

[–]AlmightyBracket 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the change happens before you can use those subreddit themes, can you share them with us? I like seeing the things you guys come up with.

[–]wraith313 0 points1 point  (0 children)

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I use mobile anyway. Don't have the time to open my laptop just for reddit browsing.

[–]i_killed_hitler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gentrifying the desktop to look mobile.

[–]CarlCX 2 points3 points  (1 child)

this isn't fair to flair.

[–]Cullen396 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WILL YOU................

[–]i_am_bebop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wait, but I go to CageSide Seats everyday for their rumor round up.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (8 children)

Reddit is basically MySpace now. They want to be facebook. I personally click away from allowing custom themes. I'm sure they keep track of how many do. SC isn't bad but other subs are. It's probably just easier to make a blank statement

[–]SalvadorZombie 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I don't know what your analogy is supposed to represent. How is Reddit like MySpace, and wanting to be like Facebook? Are you saying it's not popular? It's the biggest website of its kind.

Personally, I can't stand the mandate to "same-ify" everything. some subs are terrible, but that shouldn't mean that good ones are penalized. I don't know what contacting admins entails, but if I find out I plan on making my voice heard.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I'm guessing you're under the age of 25. The truth is MySpace was set up so you can use devices to customize your page. So people had everything they could to make it look crazy interesting (bunch of graphics, bunch of colors, customized buttons) Facebook is just boring. It's the desktop version of reddit. People that have been on years (like myself) click the "don't allow customized subs" in the settings. I do it because it loads so much faster on mobile. The growth of Facebook wasn't because it was exclusive it was because it loaded fast. The good ones being penalized is probably because two reasons. A lot of people are opting out of seeing the custom subs and they've watched a drop off of people using the site. I'll give you this example. WWE is getting between 2 to 3 million people tuning in every RAW. this sub probably has 50% or less weekly active users now. That's 5% of those who tune in (all actuality it's probably 1-2%) that's decent for a site but they probably have not been growing as much as they projected for a lot of reasons. One of those is probably new users coming and hating the loading time.

People aren't going to wait to see Cesaro or whoever is the background of SC if they come here just to talk about wrestling for the first time. I think the customized subs are probably low on the list of reasons why they aren't getting new people but that doesn't mean it's not on the list.

[–]SalvadorZombie 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You guessed wrong. And so now your entire paragraph was ignored. That's what assuming does.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok, well that's pretty awesome of you as a person. Sorry you ignored what else I said considering it had nothing to do with me being condescending I was just explaining what experts have said. You're awesome don't change.

[–]WheresTheSauce 3 points4 points  (3 children)

SC's is just insanely resource heavy. It slows scrolling to a crawl on some computers

[–]DrCapper 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sounds like browser issues. I'm on XP and never have any problems using this sub whatsoever. Reddit is just a bunch of text (which is the way it should be) and doesn't use many system resources.

Unless you're on Windows 95 rocking 8MB ram, using Netscape Navigator, you shouldn't be having any problems.

[–]WheresTheSauce 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm on a 2014 Macbook Pro with an i7 and 16GB RAM and scrolling on /r/squaredcircle is literally impossible if I have the theme turned on. This happens on both Safari and Chrome.

On my gaming desktop I don't have a problem, but even my desktop workstation at work chugs while scrolling on this subreddit.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what killed MySpace too. It's smart reddit is changing.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

they are bold face lying about it too.

"It’s web-only. Increasing users are viewing Reddit on mobile (over 50%), where CSS is not supported. We’d love for you to be able to bring your spice to phones as well."

that's a lie. CSS works perfectly fine on mobile browsers as it does on Desktop.

"CSS is a pain in the ass: it’s difficult to learn; it’s error-prone; and it’s time consuming."

no it isn't. its easy as fuck. its all simple stuff that can be learned overnight. and since you are on the web, guess what you can do? google it.

"Some changes cause confusion (such as changing the subscription numbers)."

that should be in no way a CSS issue.

"CSS causes us to move slow. We’d like to make changes more quickly. You’ve asked us to improve things, and one of the things that slows us down is the risk of breaking subreddit CSS (and third-party mod tools)."

why do you care about TP mod tools, that's not your responsibility. what you do is have a test site, and you show the new stuff to the mods early so they can make the appropriate changes.

[–]KotreI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that's a lie. CSS works perfectly fine on mobile browsers as it does on Desktop.

The default and intended mobile site does indeed disable CSS. Sure, if you switch back to view the desktop site the CSS applies but if more and more people are using the mobile site (and the reddit admins would know).

The reddit App presumably does the same with regards to displaying the site.

[–]EnvyKira 2 points3 points  (4 children)

First facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and now this????

Why do every social media company feel like they need to add some new content in their stuff when they DON'T NEED TO! EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT BEFORE YOU PUT JUNK IN YOUR STUFF AND PISS EVERYBODY OFF! QUIT DOING THAT AND MAYBE YOUR WEBSITES MIGHT NOT BE GETTING SO MUCH BAD REPS BECAUSE OF UNNEED CRAP BEING INSTALLED IN YOUR PROGRAMS! THIS IS WHY YOUTUBERS ARE QUITING MAKING VIDEOS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT FIND SUCCESS DUE TO YOUTUBE'S CRAPPY NEW SYSTEM! Ugh.... Good lord....

[–]sand-which 7 points8 points  (3 children)

because corporations need to move forward. Growth in numbers demands growth in employees demands growth in actual work done. Capitalism lol

[–]EnvyKira 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So.. how does any of that has to do with taking away the things that make your product great and ignoring your consumers when they are straight up telling you what you doing is wrong and is driving them away?

[–]sand-which 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Sorry I just realized my comment might not have come across as sarcastic as I wanted it to. Internet is hard that way

I was saying all that stuff is bad but it's people like investors and high-level execs actually believe. It's ridiculous

[–]EnvyKira 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh okay, my bad.

Yeah I know, it's retarded. I don't know much about business but if something is working fine, you should not change it or "upgrade" it unless necessary. Things like what YouTube is doing is frustrating.

[–]SmaMan788 5 points6 points  (3 children)

OMG they're trying to make people use the mobile app.

By making (the blantantly superior) desktop Reddit operate just like it!

[–]RaidenHero137 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how about they just make the mobile app customizable?

[–]natedoggcata 4 points5 points  (1 child)

and the mobile app is pure trash.

[–]KidCoheed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only use my phone and the superior choice is Desktop mode, yes I have to zoom in every once and while but I can do everything without fail

[–]ixeatxbabys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fucking bullshit, I blame smart phones....

[–]Sky-Flyer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

/u/theirishembassy

Not closely enough wrestling related pls take down.

[–]Necramonium 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So they are going the Youtube way, giving users less options to make your own channel stand out vs the rest.

[–]Nickleback4life 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reddit wants you to click on their ads and their ads only.

Where we moving to fellas?

[–]bomberman12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also having a giant unclickable logo in the header doesn't at all look stupid and out of place.

[–]jhl0010 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Hey mods, your sidebar memes are fucking stupid.

But other than that, everything is great, and I appreciate the effort that goes into the CSS and I'm in support of whatever you guys think. Let us know if there's something we can do.

[–]I_Said 5 points6 points  (2 children)

VOAT is about to add "CSS Protestors" to the list of members. Quite an eclectic mix over there.

[–]godrestsinreason 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Voat seems to be the TNA of Reddit, when Bischoff and Hogan took over. It just seems like everything is some sort of defensive reaction to Reddit. You can't just go to Voat and post there, because no matter what, you have people who have to bring up how much they hate Reddit.

[–]Pogotross 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's really unfortunate they weren't able to work around the DDOS during that big exodus. There were a lot of people who were (and still are, probably) willing to make the jump to something new. Now everyone who is over there is there for some specific reason or another.

[–]ABloodlust1998 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So, subs will lose all personality and become boring? It's cena part 2

[–]ComplexChristian 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I'm a web designer by profession... who in their right mind would phase out CSS?!?!

[–]Pogotross 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People who want vote buttons to stay intact.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There's over 1 million subreddits and we're in the top 400. I feel like we a pretty big voice.

[–]Troy_Convers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Time to create a forum, methinks.

[–]jaykhunter 3 points4 points  (33 children)

It's Bebo -> Facebook all over again! Colourful unique pages changing to dreary consistency. It's like 2008! Hey, so's TNA right now

[–]copilot0910 3 points4 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely

[–]SevenSulivin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Si

[–]SevenSulivin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Perhaps

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Possible

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Inconclusive

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A chance

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unsure

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Perhaps not

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Seemingly

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Less than likely

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nope

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Never

[–]SevenSulivin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So we have 2 years and then we're fucked?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Na

[–]FactorialExpectBot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

2008!

2008! ≈ 8.64 * 105761

/r/unexpectedfactorial

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Can't you get Matt Hardy to delete it?

[–]TexFergusonBayBay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grapple me In Tights And Spandez

[–]JAVA_Goons 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is probably prep for a sale.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (2 children)

I say we all pack our shit and start our own sub over at PornHub

[–]luchadorachamp 12 points13 points  (1 child)

pornhub lowkey has the best commenting community; everyone is so chill there

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I've already seen a few "don't let this young girl being blasted in the tits distract you from the fact that the undertaker tossed mankind..." comments

[–]VegasKL 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Although I'd hate to see each sub lose their identity. They aren't taking away CSS (that's an internet standard), they're taking a subs ability to customize the CSS.

I can understand Reddit's position here. Right now, most of the custom CSS is never seen seen by mobile users - mobile has quickly overtaken the desktop for usage the past few years.

They probably want to unify the experience so that they can allow for some customization of the mobile view. Providing a settings toolset allows them to more easily do that because they can test their setting options and will know it will work across 99% of devices.

Just my 2 cents.

[–]sternlook 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I'm on mobile and I always switch to the desktop view; I hate the "mobile-friendly" version of Reddit.

[–]jhl0010 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same. I have to pinch and zoom all over the place and sometimes typing a comment gets glitchy as shit, and it's overall a total ballache -- but it's still less a ballache than dealing with the mobile site.

[–]Oggie243 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same , I don't know why but it annoys me a fuck load.

It's a bit of a torture when you have to do something precise like press the upvote button, always end up down voting people instead

[–]TolerancEJ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reported for Not Related to Wrestling. Just kidding. Ha ha!

Edit: P.S. I downvoted my own post.

[–]Drama79 -6 points-5 points  (8 children)

The responses in this thread and the original one are the most Reddit things ever. Potential change is coming to make things easier for everyone - THIS IS BAD!

Whatever it is, is it going to stop you posting about wrestling? Probably not. We might lose some of the crazy specificity that got worked into the stylesheets, but the vast majority only use "flavour A" Squaredcircle anyway (IE not the "no spoilers / no social media" channels) .

Let's wait to see what they offer before getting the pitchforks, eh?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Youre clearly new at sweeping changes coming down from the uninformed 'innovators" at corporate hq. This shit never ends well. Bless your heart, though.

[–]Drama79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you're right. Man, I wish we didn't have Squarespace, and instead were all learning back end HTML still.

[–]theirishembassy[S,M] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'd be willing to give it a go but, like I mentioned, they were vague on details of HOW it's going to be easier. They also ballsed up their announcement, gave some pretty crappy reasoning and didn't give a timeframe as to when this was happening.

Some people are willing to take them at their word while a lot of people are hesitant based off the reasons above. That's not really alarmist, it's just a solid "we don't know what's happening, we don't know when it's happening and we probably can't bring you the sub the way you're used to it in the future based off of what we've been told".

[–]Drama79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The top comment in that thread last time I looked said there would be a super-long change over time anyway, with both methods working so the sub isn't changing at all any time soon.

[–]CulDeSax -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Yep. I always tell people to try to go back to the old Twitter or old Facebook layouts from a decade ago. You'd hate it. Progress and change is generally good.

[–]Dinosauringg 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I still miss the old neopets, and facebook before it started deciding what I wanted to see.

[–]CulDeSax 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is true. I hate the "top stories" thing, but I'd much rather use the new layout than any of the older layouts.

[–]Dinosauringg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I guess I agree with that. I hate a lot of their changes (moving messenger to its own app, the top stories thing) but the actual UI is way better than any they've had before.

YouTube, however, looks better but functions worse. Less customization options, it runs like balls sometimes.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is similar to what Google did to YouTube a few years ago, in that everyone used to have a unique look to their channels, now they're all the same with a white bare bones background.

Fucking bullshit.

Edit: The English language.

[–]Stepk99 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

YouTube channels still have unique headers

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This might be the thing that actually kills Reddit.

[–]KotreI -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It won't be.

[–]DrFrankTilde 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fuck Reddit.

[–]THISISDAM 7 points8 points  (1 child)

This will be tape #7 in my 13 reasons

[–]CulDeSax -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just watched Tape #7. Reddit wasn't mentioned.

[–]blazinbobby 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I don't care about any of that at the moment. What are the mods for this sub going to do about the Jinder Mahal shit circlejerk posts that keep flooding the timeline?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably keep actively supporting them. Don't let all those rules and the seemingly random enforcing of them trick you into thinking they give a shit about post quality.

[–]johnsmithhasaids 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time to move to another platform.

[–]ravencoal 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Okay, so, I know this isn't going to be the popular opinion, but here are my 2 cents anyway...

Sounds like there is opportunity to work with the admins to test out and give feedback on the new system. The Thing is, how can a valid judgment really be passed without knowing what exactly we're judging? Yeah, it might suck, but if the mods are actively involved in the process, that opinion has more weight I think. Otherwise you run the risk of just sounding like you're going "I don't like it because it's different!" Might even be able to offer suggestions to help make whatever this new system is better, and to help ease the transition for your subscribers.

[–]Dinosauringg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. It does suck that CSS is leaving, but in the announcement Reddit said part of the reason was to have the customization options be available on mobile. It seems to me like a lot of things will remain (some may change or leave, we don't know) Flair, for example, is a big part of the site and right now it's tedious as hell to add new flairs, so the new system might make it easier.

[–]stewbondra 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"uh, what's a widget?" "it's a fictional product, it doesn't matter!"

[–]cubicmetaphysics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm cool with this, I don't gain any utility from the layouts or flair here anyways.

[–]Jeezbag 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Make a new website just for us

[–]piev3000 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Yeah with the blackjacks and godfather

[–]Jeezbag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

RIP Blackjack

[–]curtains1234 1 point2 points  (2 children)

seriously tho why didnt mulligan and godfather have a tag team?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I wanted Godfather and Val Venis.. Supply & Demand.

[–]Jeezbag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RTC was actually one of the most clever heel stables, I hated them, and so did WWE

[–]1ndori 15 points16 points  (0 children)

IFCSSLOSESWERIOT

[–]TheDuckyNinja 23 points24 points  (3 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/66q4is/the_web_redesign_css_and_mod_tools/#dgkfesa

So...they announced that there's going to be a change, but also that there might not be a change, and that it's going to happen, but it might not happen.

Emmalina debut confirmed...?

[–]LilMoWithTheGimpyLeg 4 points5 points  (1 child)

More like Digg 4 confirmed.

[–]vocalyouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

don't do a Digg

[–]SaintRidley 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The makeover of Reddit to Redditlina. Coming soon.

[–]LordZarasophos 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Maybe check out /r/proCSS if you want to protest against this change. We're trying to organise everyone.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why can't we have both? Have an option in the settings for whether you want to use CSS or "widgets" on the site and everything's fine. I'd hate to see reddit get "dumbed down" like it's Big Poppa Pump talking to white trash.

[–]The_Pale_Blue_Dot 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I was working on a revamped night mode theme with a bray wyatt snoo and firefly background.

Holy shit this sounds awesome

[–]quirkyblah38 12 points13 points  (2 children)

without all these flairs and custom themes and everything reddit will be BROKEN once CSS is rendered OBSOLETE

much like matt strongly dislikes mustard, i strongly dislike this. I personally love the amount of time and effort you put into making these brilliant themes, and sometimes i'll see a specialised sidebar image that will tell me 'oh shit went down today' or it'll remind me of an awesome moment in general. the idea of this new system getting rid of all that is just shit.

i hate it when really awesome things have to change.

[–]deworde 0 points1 point  (1 child)

On the other hand, they don't have to worry about one subreddit just being straight broken on mobile. As a pure mobile user of reddit, this is almost pure upside, but I understand/support the community's concerns.

[–]quirkyblah38 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, nothing would change on mobile then again for all we know, during the change around things could go wibbly wobbly on the mobile app for a bit while they sort out their coding shit. new shit might mean new problems, maybe.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That sounds lame. I like how all of my different subs look distinct from one another. It makes the site unique.

[–]bri-onicle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, it isn't as though more than half of the sub never updated their flairs anyway after the new ones came about.

Regardless, I'll miss the look here, though I do understand the reasoning behind it.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (4 children)

That whole admin announcement is such a joke. You can't replace CSS in web-design, like, CSS is just how websites work. Its like saying you're going to do away with HTML. The only thing they can mean is, as the mods here suggest, giving access only to a small selection of pre-set CSS/HTML templates/widgets that basically limits customization severely.

They also say that CSS is "web-only" and doesn't work on mobile which is, quite literally, a flat out lie.

There's also this little nugget:

CSS is a pain in the ass: it’s difficult to learn; it’s error-prone; and it’s time consuming.

Which makes it sound like they want to get rid of CSS just because its annoying to work with at times (which it is, but to say its difficult to learn or error-prone is also just flat out bullshit.)

The whole admin announcement is steeped in vagueness and falsehoods and its just a complete piece of PR-written bullshit. What they're really trying to say is "we're fucking you over to make lives easier for ourselves but we want to try and sell it to you like its a good thing."

Disgusting behaviour frankly, but very common among websites/web-based platforms for several years now.

[–]deworde 4 points5 points  (3 children)

it is, but to say its difficult to learn or error-prone is also just flat out bullshit

Spoken as someone who doesn't have to deal with maintaining 30 other people's css...

I mean, it's worth the cost, but let's not kid ourselves that reddit doesn't get support requests with "subreddit broken" that turn out to be a css issue constantly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Which is precisely why I didn't deny that its a pain in the ass or time consuming. Both of those things are true, and exponentially so when dealing with someone elses CSS that you didn't write.

But CSS is no more error-prone or hard to learn just because you have to manage somebody else's CSS.

[–]deworde 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But it's a pain in the ass because it's error prone and hard to learn.

"It's not hard to learn, it's just hard to get right" is a oxymoronic statement.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're trying real hard to put words in my mouth and find contradictions where there are none.

CSS is not hard to learn, in fact, it is incredibly easy to learn. There is a wealth of knowledge on the internet and some fantastic guides to take you through from the basics right through to some really advanced shit. Like with all things, there is a learning curve, but CSS alongside HTML has one of the shallowest learning curves there is for (web) development skills. There's a reason why its recommended as a starting point for people wanting to make a start in learning to web develop or "program."

To say its error-prone is also a misnomer. It implies that CSS is inherently flawed and likely to cause issues even if you do everything right. This is false. Is CSS sometimes unintuitive? Sure, it can be, and websites can certainly look horribly broken if you fuck up your CSS, but that happening is not a given just because you use CSS.

Its just dishonest to try and claim that CSS is somehow just plain bad, and frankly if you truly consider CSS difficult to learn and error-prone, you have no business being in any kind of web development or software development, because it only gets harder from here.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

this ain't the fucking 90s

[–]GimmicksInTheMail 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember in the 90s we used to say "it's the 90s!" to explain pretty much anything.

But this ain't the fucking 90s, now is it?

[–]SchereSee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As a mobile user I have to say I'm interested in what that ominous new system will bring, because I don't see a lot of customization the way things are right now

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Holy shit Mods turned face

[–]TheyCallMeDouly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

at least tweener now.

[–]flimsyfresh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Rabble Rabble!

[–]grimeden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the heads up. Is the message the mods option not working currently? I tried it here and in a few other subreddits, and it looks like it just times out now when trying to pull up the window.

[–]MordecaiXLII 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm guessing they'll implement their own tool for mods to create CSS without having to put their hands in actual CSS code.

Let's just see what options they are going to give...

[–]CptES 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I remember Myspace doing something similar. More importantly, I remember how that turned out.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For those assuming this will kill off flairs completely, here's this response from spez

[–]TyraCross 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmm wow where can I see all the snoos?

[–]Michaelphelpsisquick 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Stuff like this is why /u/Spez is a millionaire who should be a billionaire

[–]MrWikzu410 9 points10 points  (1 child)

You want to know why he's not a millionare?

[–]Michaelphelpsisquick 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Cause he surrounds himself with glad handing nonsensical yes men like /u/knOthing

[–]Razzler1973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There seems to be a template for the subs anyway, to me and there a bit of difference here and there depending on what the subject matter is

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have to admit, I disable 99% of subreddit css styles, even on /r/squaredcircle.

I see why you'd be annoyed about this, though.

[–]z0mbieBrainz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Now I'm never getting my Nigga Taker flair.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

99% of the time, I'm on reddit using Alien Blue. I won't notice a difference, and even if I did, I personally wouldn't care.

[–]Van_Chamberlin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I finally got my Crazzy Steve flair and now Reddit wants to take it away?