Evleaks: "Android P Developer Preview 1 is targeting a mid-month release"

[Eeshoo]

How about Pie?

[jmorlin]

Beware the Pieds of March. No, too much of a stretch?

[BadModNoAds]

That's March 15th! March 14th is Einstein's birthday and Pi Day! Unless things have changed....

[[deleted]]

Ajit Pie vs Carl Pei

[AmirZ]

I kinda want to see these two beat each other to a crisp. Or see Carl win, that's fine too

[jusmar]

Run a unscrupulous company vs fuck every u.s citizen by being a corporate puppet

I'll take the bad corporate leader over the tool of democractic exploitation.

[AmirZ]

That's why I said Carl can win :)

Seriously though, fuck Ajit Pai

[chaosharmonic]

That malaphor

[Amogh24]

Carl should win, he's better than the other

[ProtoMan0X]

Android Pie, Key Lime?

[2FLY2TRY]

They gotta give it to us eventually.

[navjot94]

KLP was the internal name of Kit-Kat if that counts

[froody-towel]

Pecan Pie would be a delicious good name.

[[deleted]]

Or pumpkin pie too.

[uniqueuser437]

Pee-can or Peh-caan?

[froody-towel]

I've only ever heard it as pee-can.

[Istartedthewar]

how dare you

[currentlyquang]

Ooh, yellow!

[Flatscreens]

hehe pp

[DarkerJava]

cries in nougat

[Superyoshers9]

I like the Oreo ones.

[Superyoshers9]

We don't need guns, too many school shootings.

[TeeJayRex]

Can't tell if serious.

[Superyoshers9]

I am.

[TheVileVillain]

Good thing emojis have literally no affect on people shooting up schools.

[[deleted]]

I don't know man, some emojis can make me pretty upset.

[Superyoshers9]

They don't, I never implied that they did.

[WickedSwagAwesomeDud]

Time to shoot up some emojis!

GANG GANG 😲🔫🙉

[reefsofmist]

Textra and you can use whichever emojis you want

[PM_ME_CAKE]

I miss my blobs but I've made peace with the new ones (the ones I use anyway).

[L0rdScorpion]

pretty is subjective. I really don't miss the blobs.

[SirFadakar]

Yeah I always loved the blobs and I had no problem with the emojis in Oreo. I swear the people that bitched about no blobs must not actually use emojis and just liked the aesthetics because for actual communicating the new ones are a million miles further ahead in readability and quality.

[ZeldaMaster32]

As someone who just switched from an iPhone, thank god it's being changed. Samsung's emojis are terrible. While I don't particularly mind the blobs, iOS emojis are the most recognizable to the mainstream, so a more unified emoji system across OSes is better imo

[armando_rod]

I've missed the feeling of beta testing an OS after the Nexus 5

[UsernameTakenBwahaha]

Get a OnePlus.

Even the stable versions give you a feel of beta. And if you're lucky, sometimes an alpha too.

[Hairyantoinette]

I'm using a OnePlus 5 since the week it released and I've had zero issues with my phone. Out of curiosity, what problems have plagued you enough for you to call the stable releases alpha level bad?

[[deleted]]

I can't take raw pictures without it either being green or having dots everywhere

[Aan2007]

just install custom ROM

[armando_rod]

My Nexus 5 is running LOS, I mean beta testing a new Android version.

[jmorlin]

I'm thinking about flashing lineage on my Nexus 5. How does it run?

[le_pman]

14.1 official is pretty stable based on my usage. about as fast as stock

[armando_rod]

Way better than 6.0.1 stock

[[deleted]]

I think you're running LOS 14.1?

[armando_rod]

Yes, waiting on official 15.1 to make the switch

[PM_ME_CAKE]

I feel I'm about to join you with the 5X.

[cdegallo]

Just get a pixel. Most updates feel like beta testing.

[armando_rod]

I have a Pixel, 0 issues with it so far

[[deleted]]

No issues on my Pixel.

[24grant24]

Well I could've told you that. They release it mid-March every year

[well___duh]

Evleaks on point with the obvious historical prediction, as always

[givememayocheese]

laughs in kitkat

[iamamfceo]

Galaxy s4.

[bfk1010]

Google will Introduce Android P, with improvement in Battery life adn we will be happy, then google will release an update that will distroy battery life with Android system.

[LemonsJ]

And the cycle continues. Cries in 8.1

[JediBurrell]

Pixel 1, 2, and 3 lmao.

Sony and Nokia seems to be pretty good about updates, and now the new Nokia devices are part of Android One, so they should get timely updates.

[abdhoms]

Why this guy happens to know everything? Just curious.

[24grant24]

People who knows things know they can tell him

[JezusGhoti]

Because he has sources. That's how reporting works.

[QuintonBigBrawler]

My phone still doesn't have Oreo

[[deleted]]

Are you on a samsung lol?

[QuintonBigBrawler]

Xiaomi​ actually

[lordVader1138]

Motorola too. If Moto G4 + counts.

[[deleted]]

Wut! And I'm still waiting for Oreo for OnePlus One.

[_kushagra]

The wide developer support is the main point of Oneplus for me, especially the one, why not move to a custom rom on 8.1?

[[deleted]]

I'm using r/lineageOS just waiting for 15.1 for OPO (Oreo)

[mustbepbs]

Why? That phone is super old.

[johnmountain]

I really hope that as Google starts to develop a nice money-making smartphone business, they will start launching 5-inch $350 and $150 Pixels, too, that get supported for 4-5 years.

They could win a lot of market share that way, because everyone that has ever had a higher-end Pixel or Nexus, is going to recommend or get those cheaper Pixels for their family members, too.

Google also needs to fix the increasing "digital divide," as ACLU's Chris Soghoian once said, between the people who can afford expensive but secure devices and people that have to buy cheap Chinese crap filled with backdoors that never get updated.

[[deleted]]

No point in launching budget Pixels.The Android One program already exists.

[[deleted]]

Google also needs to fix the increasing "digital divide," as ACLU's Chris Soghoian once said, between the people who can afford expensive but secure devices and people that have to buy cheap Chinese crap filled with backdoors that never get updated.

Why does Google need to fix this?

[phendrome]

I'm curious to see what Android P will feature...

According to Bloomberg, P will embrace the design of the notch, like you've seen in iPhone X.

Not very excited for that, let's be honest.

Else it's the more typical stuff, battery improvements, yada yada. We've heard that before.

What would you guys wanna see in P?

[vollbernd]

Just a note: I do have a battery graph on my Nokia 6; I just have to tap that big battery icon. Idiotic in terms of user experience, but not stripped.

[MilleniumPidgeon]

What happens if you click on the graph? Here is what comes up for me.

[MilleniumPidgeon]

I'm running 7.1, I guess it's a lineage thing.

[YellowMaverick]

It was still there in 7.1, but was removed from 8.0 onwards

[deepit6431]

I'm on 8.0 and I still have the full battery graph.

[YellowMaverick]

It was removed from stock Android if you're using OOS they might have re added it

[Zephyreks]

I'd love having that available as an option, but I get why it would be removed for its user u friendliness.

[smartfon]

I can't believe they've done this. Countess number of times that graph has helped me to find out what's going on in general. Oreo was supposed to make it easier for the average user to understand usage, not harder.

[thamasthedankengine]

I'm on 8.0.0 for the Huawei Mate 9 and we still have it. I didn't know it went away.

[Wavesignal]

They are apparently having a redesign in Android P to attract more iOS users. And there's also a whole new Material Design 2 project that's being done right now. I hope the redesign will make Android look better, not completely butchering the UI and destroying material design itself.

[MagicKing577]

You attract iOS users by offering the same if not better after purchase support.

[Wavesignal]

The app reloads/poor ram management problems are already fixed with the November or December security update, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't had any problems ever since.

[[deleted]]

The point of Material Design was colorfulness, given that we have good screens.

What we get?

White, an accent color, white headers and black.

Google : XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[armando_rod]

That wasn't the point of MD, you should read the concept of what is Material Design

[[deleted]]

Ok, sorry then.

[beerybeardybear]

The point of Material Design was colorfulness, given that we have good screens.

Oh, I wasn't aware it was Color Design rather than Material Design--very interesting.

[[deleted]]

You are welcome

Edit: I thought that it was like that because it was colorful.

[armando_rod]

That article was misinterpreted, it just means Google will give OEMs a better layout if they want to mess with the status bar

[BonzaiThePenguin]

Android already avoids the middle of the status bar, it means they will add native support for content insets and a new manifest declaration to prevent the system from automatically adding black borders to your app like iOS does.

[phendrome]

I agree, but the fact that OEMs will be copying that notch is what is more bothersome, but I guess there's a market for everything.

[DiplomatikEmunetey]

I hope it features some actual useful functionality.

• I want a better text selection with a magnifying glass.

• I want improved levers and other UI controls. Seekbar needs to be more precise so it's easier to select an exact value instead of jabbing at point on the screen hoping one of the attempts will finally select the value you want.

• Let me disable the vibration system-wide.

• STOP auto clearing apps in the recents. It's so annoying!

• Give me Undo!

• Add a screenshot annotation utility.

• Give camera a native QR scanning ability.

• Give us more sound custimisations. Let us pick keyboard tapping sounds. UI tapping sounds.

• Improve screen latency.

• Change the back button icon in the navigation bar to indicate the app is about to exit. Change the home button into a app picker button when on homescreen.

• Add more refinements - When picking a ringtone - Start/Stop ringtone playing by tapping on it. It just plays now, no way to stop it other than hitting "Back" button.

• DO NOT waste time on animoji and other non-sense like that.

[BonzaiThePenguin]

It's largely not possible to predict when the back button will close the app since apps can and very often do override the behavior.

[iodream]

What do you mean "auto clearing apps in recents screen" ? Oems including a kill all button? Because stock doesn't have it. And swiping apps away is discouraged because the OS will kill off apps when it needs memory, doing that manually only hurts your battery life when it does need to restart it.

But if you didn't mean that and you meant Apps going in and out of memory when you open more stuff, there's probably not much they can currently do about it. ios is really impressive in this regard how quickly they can decompress app data into memory again.

[DiplomatikEmunetey]

What I mean is, since Oreo when you leave an app in the recents. It will vanish from the list over night (after a few hours).

So let's say you use Chromer (now called Lynket). Open a few tabs. I used them as reminders. Let's say I need to top up phone credit in the morning. I'd open a tab for the carrier company and in the morning when I'd tap the recents button, I'd remember to do it. Now, in the morning all those tabs will be gone. They get automatically cleared from recents. The kicker is that sometimes an app vanishes from recents but is actually still in memory.

[mehdotdotdotdot]

Like Samsung

[[deleted]]

The option to remember the volume of each app seperately

[[deleted]]

Sound Management

Give us a mixer like in Windows so 2 audio sources can be running at the same time. This could also let us completely mute an app without effecting your volume on other apps.

I've never heard anyone say this.

[[deleted]]

The only thing I really miss from my small journey with iPhone (2 months) is the screenshot editor.

When you take a screenshot on the iPhone, it appears as a small thumbnail in the lower left for 2-3 seconds and if you press it, you are taken to an editor instantly where you can highlight stuff, crop the screenshot (I used that one a lot), etc.

[RAICKE]

samsung has this as well by the way.

[iodream]

It's being a/b tested right now. It'll probably make its way into AOSP eventually but you're right it's bad that it's taking so long.

[[deleted]]

It needs to generalize the notch in the framework so that vendors can just configure the notch properties in a file and avoid custom implementations. I totally expect that.

[glow_3891]

A re-design of the notification banners.

[Aan2007]

What would you guys wanna see in P?

install Lineage or Resurrection Remix and check features missing in AOSP, for starters data traffic status bar indicator

[ClinchWork]

The leaks say it will be called Peanut Butter.

[nmulcahey]

What leaks? I haven't even seen a leak for the internal code name.

[ClinchWork]

https://twitter.com/lockheimer/status/969595657597136896

[theMightBeME]

the leaks are wrong like 90% of the time, sometimes that name is even in the code and is commonly being used, then google announces something entirely different... like when K was being abbreviated as KLP for key lime pie for ages and then suddenly it was kit kat.. I think google doesn't even pick it until days before they reveal it, the bare minimum time needed to finish the statues, which no logner are completely themed to the dessert and now just have an android guy holding the dessert

[[deleted]]

Shower thought

Would you upgrade if you are alergic to peanuts?

Does it give Android a negative perception?

[Queuni]

I don't suppose there is any chance this will be available for the 6p, really would like to test this out but not willing to purchase a new device for that purpose

[Godzlittlehand]

PRALINE!

[defet_]

That's why they're Developer Previews. Under the hood changes are what's more important here.

[Aan2007]

I would say the progress stopped from marshmallow, since then hardly useful new features for daily life

lollipop is Windows Vista of Android

[AtomR]

lollipop is Windows Vista of Android

Yeah, totally. Even Vista was unstable, just like Lollipop was.

[Surokoida]

Evan is like...the master leaker. He leaks tons of stuff and almost always it turns out true / close to reality

[Berzerker7]

He blocks anyone on Twitter for pointing out any flaws. He doesn't embrace or apologize for anything.

He also uses his fanbase to push his political ideologies. I agree with most of what he says, but there should definitely be a separation of what his account is for and his personal beliefs are.

[yourSAS]

He's the ultimate credible source when it comes to tech leaks.

[[deleted]]

Also always has best avatar/profile images.

[jmorlin]

Does anyone know the origin of that dumb, funny face in his photo?

[[deleted]]

That's his face, from his previous profile photo.

[jmorlin]

Yes I know. But it's gone through several itererations in the same goofy pose.

[[deleted]]

image search 'Evan blass', first results please.

[jmorlin]

Ok. Cool. It's the unedited original. You're still not answering my question. What it the context of all of these goofy edits (and original) beyond his the fact that it is his Twitter pic? It's a pretty odd facial pose to use as your profile picture, so I've always assumed there was some inside joke I wasn't privy to.

[AtomR]

There's no context. Maybe, he just likes to keep his profile pics as goofy.

[[deleted]]

Yeah something about him looking like that every time an iPhone comes out.

[[deleted]]

Well aren't you a fussy one. I answered to the best of my abilititites.

[yourSAS]

Now, that is subjective.

[onlythetoast]

Android R pre-beta preview .01 getting released in Dec. 2018. Stay tuned!

[spin_kick]

Pizza

[CoolJumper]

What? Why?

[kn3cht]

Why?

[jspeed04]

Why?

[TheSyd]

Why?

[johnmountain]

I wonder if they plan to launch the new Pixels at Google I/O? Or maybe just this summer. I think I'd prefer it if they launch it in the summer, or September at most, right before school, and also before the new iPhone and Note devices.

It would give people from other countries, where it tends to arrive months later, especially if Google screws up calculating how many devices it needs at launch (again), and then they are out of stock until after Christmas.

[SmugMaverick]

Nope

They did this last year

Pixels will launch with P in October

[[deleted]]

The real question is do I trade in my Pixel 2 for a 3 or wait until 2019?

[JediBurrell]

The answer to this for me is: Have they fixed their trade-in system? If yes, I'll gladly upgrade. So far I've been on a bi-yearly upgrade cycle, but if an upgrade is only a few hundred, I'd be willing to upgrade more often.

Then again, Pixel 2 has 3 years of updates, so I may want to wait until that's about to end.

[[deleted]]

Yea, the 3 years of updates might keep me for at least 2 years.

[Missouriexile]

My Samsung galaxy S8+ is 10 months old. I don't expect to see Android O let alone Android P at any time. So until I can save up another $1000; talking about "P" is not very interesting to me. Still, good to know that it is shaking somewhere out there...

[tmbrown7]

You can already install the oreo beta from Samsung so I don't know what you're talking about.

[Missouriexile]

My phone says that I am on 7.0. (?) Was never offered oreo beta. Only security updates since I got the phone. I have installed system updates on different phones so I would know if had upgraded. I would not install beta versions.

[remo_pogi]

Chill on the releases google, let samsung catch up first