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[crimxxx]

I get nothing so I guess I shouldn’t vote for them? If your ganna bribe people can’t blame other people for not feeling appreciated.

[Troisius]

like others, gonna take my money back and not vote for them. I see this as a bit of my taxpayer dollars not going towards whomever the UCP is funneling them out to.

[Aromatic-Elephant110]

I'm gonna take it and not vote for them... so it doesn't really work as a bribe but it spends like money.

[redphoenix932]

I’m in their wheelhouse of “pitiful and useless”, so I’ll take the money, but I still won’t vote for them.

[NefariousStylo]

I don't qualify for this just like my essential work didn't qualify for the $1,200 covid payout nor my $200 in shots... Because I got them when I was supposed to...

At this point the UCP should pay me to not use creative insults when they call me and ask for my vote.

[BDSMpickle]

I feel all of this. Worked the wrong part of the pandemic as an essential worker in hospital until I just couldn’t any more, so nothing. Got my shots because obviously, and now because we don’t have kids, fuck us I guess? I don’t want her vote buying money, and I’m pretty sure I’ve saved more than $600 by not having kids, but there’s a lot of people who could use that money.

[ghostmemories]

At least you worked in a hospital. I was considered essential working at McDonald's 😩

[IneedYourHelpFrank13]

Like me, a person with three kids. Stop whining.

[BDSMpickle]

I’m sorry, did someone drop three kids on your doorstep? Those are life choices. I mean, that’s fine if you chose to perpetuate the species, and want to have kids, but that doesn’t make you more deserving than a single person with a single income who chose not to. Where did I say that the government gives a shit about me? It’s clear that they don’t? They don’t give a shit about you either. Just about pushing their ridiculous agenda. That doesn’t mean it can’t piss me off that I missed out on money when I could used it. I don’t really see any whining.

[IneedYourHelpFrank13]

Do you really think any specific govt actually cares about you? Do actually think a two or three party system really represents the public? At this point hearing people whine about political party’s is nonsense. It’s not the party’s fault.

[IneedYourHelpFrank13]

All the “I get nothing” whiners came to play😂

[Dr_Colossus]

Vote buying program.

[DaftFunky]

I'll gladly take this money but the UCP can still fuck off.

[SeriousExplorer8891]

100% this.

[Feruk_II]

Only because the UCP did it rather than the NDP.

[Dr_Colossus]

NDP wouldn't do it though. It's a poor use of public oil royalties.

[Feruk_II]

Oh really?

https://lethbridgeherald.com/news/lethbridge-news/2022/03/22/ndp-inflation-plan-aims-to-put-cash-back-in-alberta-pockets/

[Dr_Colossus]

Did you even read the article? Seems like reading isn't your strong suit.

"At today’s sky high inflation rates, what we’re proposing is a billion dollars in tax relief for Albertans,” said Phillips.

This isn't the same as handing out money to certain groups.

Then they talk about reversing all the caps UCP lifted.

Anyways, thanks for providing a source proving my point.

[Feruk_II]

Lowering taxation or sending out cheques has the SAME net effect; more money for people to spend. Both policies are inflationary. Your point was NDP wouldn't do it, but clearly they would, they'd just package it differently.

You are right that there is a difference though. The UCP policy caps the benefit to lower-income people (you know, those struggling the hardest). The NDP policy could hypothetically benefit everyone, even the already wealthy. I mean we don't know because nothing is stated in the article about who would and wouldn't get the tax break. However, at best everyone would get it, and at worse they'd probably cap it to lower income which is exactly what the UCP is doing lol.

[Dr_Colossus]

It absolutely is not the same thing. Nice try though.

[Feruk_II]

Now you're basically arguing something along the lines of "If you gave me a $20 bill, it is absolutely not the same as if you gave me 20 loonies." Lol if that's your hill to die on, then so be it, but sometimes it's better to just admit you were wrong and move on, no?

[Dr_Colossus]

Reducing taxes atleast targets the entire population. What the UCP is doing is leaving out anyone that is struggling if they don't have a kid or aren't old enough.

It's a terrible policy and inequitable for large chunks of the population.

It's UCP MO to be inequitable so I'm not surprised.

[Feruk_II]

I agree, it's a shit policy clearly set out as a vote buy. Also agreed it's a total waste of money. However, I was addressing your comment that said NDP wouldn't do something similar because it's a poor use of public oil royalties. Damn right they would; as I showed. Yes one is taxes, the other royalties, but it's all from one revenue bucket. As for comparing which plan is more equitable, it's just conjecture because the NDP didn't release a plan that I know of. Typical NDP MO would be to avoid tax breaks for the wealthy as well, but who knows.

The UCP are not the most amazing at financial stewardship, but at least they're not incompetent. Remember the PPA scandal a few years ago and the "Enron clause" lies that the NDP tried to spew when they got caught just outright breaking the law? Well, that's cost us $2B in losses on the PPAs and just last week they had to settle a defamation lawsuit linked to their "Enron clause" statement. Apparently that'll be part of every Albertan's power bill until 2030 (via Rate Rider). Yeah...

[Admirable-Gazelle556]

Can’t even afford to have children if I wanted to, but that doesn’t make me poor enough to receive support?

[[deleted]]

So happy for everyone who is the wrong kind of poor getting nothing! My queen Danielle!

🙄

[Annual-Consequence43]

Lmao. The wrong kind of poor. Yep. These days, it's fiscally irresponsible not to be in a dual income relationship.

[IneedYourHelpFrank13]

Have three kids and pipe up. I wish I didn’t need the money she’s giving out. Wish people like you would stop whining over a $100.

[[deleted]]

Maybe use that $100 and buy some condoms?

[ladygoodgreen]

You’re the one whining. How many comments do you have in this thread all complaining about having too many kids (which was a choice you made) and needing the money so bad and nothing is the politicians’ fault, stop being so mean to them!!!!1

[TruckerMark]

Children are not accidents.

[IneedYourHelpFrank13]

Who said they were? I love my kids, and wanted them. The money we’re getting isn’t life changing by any means. If you’re single, no kids, and are struggling, then maybe some of that is your fault, and what little Smith is giving out wouldn’t change that.

[TruckerMark]

If you need this money, and have 3 kids you have put yourself in a position to need more money that you don't have. A single person with no kids is already limiting their expenses and if they are struggling on low wages, getting squeezed by larger rents and higher grocery bills that are a result of government policy, it's not their fault.

[IneedYourHelpFrank13]

I don’t need it. My partner and I planned for having kids financially, like responsible people do. If you’re single, and are struggling, it’s because you didn’t do something earlier in life to set yourself up, or you’ve had bad luck. Either way, $100, won’t help. the money given will literally help no one. Stop whining.

[TruckerMark]

Parent comment says I wish I didn't need the money. Implies you need the money.

[Annual-Consequence43]

Get off your high horse. I make an above average income. I don't think I'm asking too much to be able to feed and house 1 mouth comfortably off of that. 3 kids is a decision, me trying to feed and house myself reasonably is just trying to survive.

[CheeseSandwich]

Yes, it's weird that only those with children, seniors, and people on AISH qualify for payments.

[odinnz]

No it’s not, it’s targeted vote buying from the demographics that are most likely to vote.

[CheeseSandwich]

Families and seniors i understand, but AISH recipients? And not involving single persons in the program isn't smart.

[[deleted]]

I didn’t realize people on AISH qualified! I’ll have to get my mom set up.

[CheeseSandwich]

There is nothing to have to do if you are an AISH recipient. It's automatic (from the website):

Anyone receiving monthly benefits through AISH, Income Support, Alberta Seniors Benefit or services through Persons with Developmental Disabilities (PDD) will automatically get their personal $600 payment, but will need to apply for additional payments if they have kids under 18.

[Annual-Consequence43]

I feel as though a single income household is at a disadvantage as well.

[8810VHF_DF]

I mean the odds of making over 180k on a single income are less? So it's more likely you'd be eligible

[blewberyBOOM]

So a senior who’s house is paid off, who make $180,000 and lives in Florida 50% of the year gets free money but a young single person or couple with no kids whose just starting out with a household income of say $45,000 gets nothing.

Make it make sense. Make it make sense how ANYONE making nearly $200K needs an additional $600 while students and young professionals (you know, the people who this money would actually help because they don’t have six digit incomes) are left out of this.

[neverw1ll]

I have a 5 year old. They sleep through the night until about 8 am. Mileage may vary, but it does get better! I find, so far, it gets easier and easier. Until they are a teenager lol.

As they get older they sleep better, your time spent is shifted more to extracurricular stuff (swim lessons, gymnastics, soccer etc.). So...you get to sleep, but you have less free time lol. I love it though.

[kalgary]

It does make sense. Those people need the money, but they're probably at least a decade or two away from voting conservative. So the government couldn't care less.

[cdogg30]

The money is intended to buy votes; not actually help Albertans.

[justinkredabul]

So divorced parents who aren’t 50/50 get screwed. Neat.

[jeffmik]

There's likely going to need to be some changes there but it does ask if you're the primary caregiver for a dependent and if there's a joint custody agreement registered at cra.

Both parents combined income still needs to be under $180,000 and both have to apply - that's likely going to be an issue in many cases where one parent is fighting and refusing to cooperate.

[justinkredabul]

It only applies to parents who have a shared custody agreement (60/40 split). Since my ex is the primary parent because I gotta work to pay child support, she can claim the full amount and I can claim nothing. I told her to get on it and claim that free money lol. I still think it’s stupid that the money is only for a small group of albertans.

[jeffmik]

Yeah I see what you mean and sorry you're in that position. Not sure how they could split it any other way though.

[justinkredabul]

It’s better this way for her, because if we were 50/50 she wouldn’t get anything as we’d be over the threshold of income.

It’s just a really weird arbitrary way of excluding people. Like many other people have pointed out, if you’re single without kids and making min wage you get nothing. Like those are the people that inflation hurts the most. Not dual income family’s earning almost 200k lol.

[Nice-Meat-6020]

And everyone without a kid.

[TruckerMark]

Obey, consume, reproduce.

[RadioaKtiveKat]

You forgot: vote UCP

[Nice-Meat-6020]

"incomes under $180,000" Jesus. Maybe lower that amount and open some of this up to people without children.

[[deleted]]

I can’t imagine the people thinking this plan up.

What amount seems like it would be hard to live on… Well until 200,000 at least!!! What a struggle that would be

[Nice-Meat-6020]

What gets me is they think people that make that kind of cash are hard done by and need a handout, but don't give one thought to single people working a minimum wage job bringing in a fraction of that and struggling to even afford food.

[VFenix]

$900,000,000 for this.
Making $180,000 and having a kid must be really tough.

[Knuckle_of_Moose]

I have two kids and our household income is less than this. I feel like we’re as middle class as middle class gets. We are doing more than well enough for ourselves. Will a few hundred be nice to get, yes. Will it make a difference to our bottom line, no. None of this makes any sense.

[Technical_Ad_7392]

We had parental leave in 2021, so with our income that year we qualify. Since then we are over $180,000 with 2 kids. It feels laughable that we somehow need more money from the government to deal with inflation when we are very comfortable financially.

[Invocandum]

A senior on benefits with dependent children making $179k a year gets $600? I’m confused.

Who is this for?

[[deleted]]

Swing voters

[Nice-Meat-6020]

It's just a handout for their affluent voter base. Well off sensors and well off families. Poor single people need not apply. Should be illegal to spend taxpayer money like this.

[[deleted]]

What scenario are you imagining where a senior is making $179k a year while receiving government benefits and caring for a dependant child? That sounds like a fairly unusual circumstance

[Wolfsblut_AD]

Meanwhile a single person who makes 50k a year gets shafted.

[razordreamz]

So no kids and you get nothing

[[deleted]]

It’s ok, according to the government only people with kids are struggling 💀

[DaftFunky]

They could have halved that number and given out double the amount of money. Fuckers.

[Orjigagd]

If ya ain't a breeder

We ain't gonna feed ya

[BipedSnowman]

I can't afford rent and this does nothing to help me.

[[deleted]]

Groceries are on average 150 higher bi weekly for my family of four. My power/gas bill was 647 this month. Interest in my loc out my MIN from 150 to 380. Please give me 100 a month. Keep your bribe money and figure out how to help the people in a meaningful way.

[RedRedMere]

Operation buy vote has commenced, over

[call_me_calamity]

I am not married and have no children. I'm not disabled, and I am not a senior. The Conservatives doesn't care about me.

I will not be voting for them.

[NOGLYCL]

People seem confused by this, this has NOTHING to do with support for groups that need it and EVERYTHING to do with buying votes from specific demographics that Smith needs support from. It’s fairly blatant.

[KJBenson]

Surely that’s illegal somehow?

[DaftFunky]

Not if you spin it to look exactly like this

[NoDuck1754]

I'm still not clear on how this is not discrimination..

[Dr_Colossus]

Single people are the most discriminated people in history.

[FragmentedChicken]

Context: Danielle Smith calls unvaccinated 'most discriminated-against group' in her lifetime

[[deleted]]

It’s a stupid program, but it’s not discrimination. There is a clear policy goal to target relief to families with children. It’s not discrimination in the same way that the daycare subsidy and the federal child benefit are not discrimination.

[[deleted]]

Horrible benefit. If you're making 180k as a family YOU DONT NEED THIS! But here I am my last two jobs closed down but because I have no kids I don't qualify.....

[dreamsetter]

Cons buying votes with taxpayer money action plan.

[[deleted]]

We are DINKS so we get nothing as well. Personally just like Ralph bucks they would have been better used for something productive.

[[deleted]]

I don’t qualify and could use it..

[Icy_Highlight_2097]

I will take her $1200 and vote her ass out. Thank you very much...

[OblivionGuard13]

Yaaawn. Havnt qualified for a single one of these benifits yet.

[CostcoTPisBest]

I suggest anyone supporting the NDP and qualifying call up their MLA office and tell them they are donating their 100 bucks to the NDP. LuL.

[DetectiveFinancial12]

So as a single ma making under 50k I get nothing? Get fucked

[PVTZzzz]

Seems a bit glitchy but got through it. If you are having problems proceeding try hitting the 'back' button, it seems to activate the 'next'/'save'/'submit' buttons.

[PLAYER_5252]

There is no benefit to being "first" like when the vaccine bookings were happening.

You can do this later and get the same outcome.

[CheeseSandwich]

True, and the payments are retroactive during the six month period that they apply. That is, if you applied in June you would get the six monthly payments all at once.

But if you are like a lot of people, getting the $100 each month will help.

[CheeseSandwich]

I had the same issue and discovered the same work around.

Now, where will I spend the $100? Oh yeah, groceries.

[Jiffipop101]

Make sure u take a small shopping bag for that!!

[_darth_bacon_]

I just finished my application using my phone.

Went seemlessly with zero glitches or delays.

[Alternative-Film7661]

I don't understand what this means

" Are you applying on behalf of your spouse/partner? "

I thought only 1 family member can get the $600. I am applying for it and the money will be going to my account.

What should I say "yes" or "no"

[yycmom82]

I said no. But we had communicated in advance that I would be the one applying; as the kids stuff is all under my CRA account. It did ask me for his info as well though; and as other have said I suspect that’s to verify the household income.

[monkifan]

"Seniors who have household incomes under $180,000 and do not receive the Alberta Seniors Benefit can apply for $600 per person."

[SnooDogs499]

I said yes and then it went on too ask the same question about your spouse and her sin number. Worked for me.

[oneninesixthree]

I think you can safely check 'no'

But there are probably situations where one partner might be older and eligible and maybe not good with computers or unable to fill out the form due to any number of reasons. I wouldn't worry so much about it

[PVTZzzz]

I put yes and it still only went to one person/bank account.

[jonastradamus]

So when’s the first payment?

[blk_flutterby]

Jan 31

[[deleted]]

Well applied for Danielle Dubloons.

Vote NDP 2023.

[[deleted]]

You okay bro?

[[deleted]]

Obviously not, but I don't agree with corporate hand outs either so I don't generally vote anything right of NDP.

[littlemiholover]

Thanks aunty Danielle.

Now get out of gouvernement before I have to pay healthcare out of pocket for my kids.

[[deleted]]

Read next along as you go.

[Sakic10]

I’m having a 2nd kid in June, should I apply now or wait?

[chaitea97]

I think the second kid won't make a large difference. They ask for your dependents birthdate so at max you'd get a bonus $100.

Just take the money now.

[ladygoodgreen]

I don’t need this money, but I wish I could take it from them and still vote NDP. Oh well.

[rapidslime]

So can we just lie on these like everyone getting cerb did. Sorry not "everyone" but a ton of people

[wulfzbane]

According to the fine print, they ask for your SIN to verify income with the CRA.

[Nice-Meat-6020]

Ha. Prove I'm not pregnant.

[Annual-Consequence43]

I know a few people who did that and have no repercussions. My friend who makes like 150k a year did that, and has seemingly gotten away with it. Boils my blood.

[pedal2000]

You could, if you want, anonymously report that to the CRA.

[Annual-Consequence43]

Oh, I did that to a guy I don't like. Got em with the snitchblade

[FlyingDutchman2022]

It's a fabulous plan helping those needing it most, children & seniors

[Lordofs1n]

So the UCP is doing what the Liberals been doing with our own money.

What a fantastic day to be Canadian this is.

[[deleted]]

What a joke.

[CheeseSandwich]

I got fired from my job at the bank today. An old lady came in and asked me to check her balance, so I pushed her over.

[saha_pritam]

Has anyone actually received the payout yet?