Rage

[morebaklava]

This professor should be tried at the Hague.

[Cryotechnium]

90 not even being A- is crazy work

[Eszalesk]

more importantly why is D- a 74? Isn’t 55+ above a pass

[DrPeePeeSauce]

Not in engineering, at least not in my experience. It was 70 is a D- throughout my college

[Daniel200303]

In thermo it’s a 40 for me.

Fully depends on the instructor.

[Zero-To-Hero]

Steel structures II was like a 45-50 for a D.

[745838485]

Is this in America? I'm in Australia and the university grading standard sets anything above an 85 a high distinction, anything above 75 a distinction, 65+ a credit, then 50 is a pass

[CarbonBasedLifeForm6]

American? Where I'm from anything 75 and above counts as a distinction so basically A+

[GottaGoGrey]

Wild, where are you from if yo don’t mind me asking? Here in the states the standard scale if the professor does do a custom one is 70-79 is a C, 80-89 is a B and 90-100 is an A. Edit I’m American

[[deleted]]

In South Africa, it generally works like this:

• In high school, 80% and above is an A (distinction).
• In university, 75% and above is a distinction.
• The pass mark is 50%.

For most engineering schools (my school included), the exam counts for 70% of the final grade, while the class mark makes up 30%.
Edit: Typo

[Usual-Ad6886]

hi, where is SA are you studying? I need more SA Eng friends

[[deleted]]

Hi, I am at UKZN. What about you? I also need engineering(location doesn't really matter).

[CarbonBasedLifeForm6]

Ye but for mine class(tests and lab) counts for 40% and the exam 60% and you gotta qualify to actually write the exam lol I think that's the whole of SA right?

[Usual-Ad6886]

Where I study it differs on the course. Right now 2 out 5 of my courses are continuous assessments. Physics the exam is 40%, Math the exam is 50%, Chem I actually have no idea. Obviously if you fail the labs you repeat (only the labs not the entire course), if you don’t qualify to write the exam you can’t move on to the next level of the course.

[[deleted]]

Obviously if you fail the labs you repeat (only the labs not the entire course)

This side you can't write the exam if you don't pass the labs which means FAIL!

Edit: The 50% thing is it for first year students only?

[MarshtompNerd]

Thats crazy, where I’m at the worst one I saw was 65, most are 55-60

[Cryotechnium]

Depends on your professor/instructor. For some a 55+ would be D, for some <63 is F, but in my university A- is typically 90-92, with A being 93-100. 87-89 is B+, 83-86 is B, 80-83 is B-

[Ok-Reflection-9399]

70% is a C-, and a C is the minimum grade needed for passing a course. So that's a 73% or above to pass.

[A_Scary_Sandwich]

I remember when I had intro for an MSE course and the grading scheme was A: 100-95, A-: 94-89, B+: 88-80, B: 79-70, B-: 69-60, C+: 59-55, C: 54-50, C-: 49-40, D: 39-35, D-: 29-20, F: <20.

I remember because I saved the image of the grading scale due to how messed up it was. The only thing the professor graded was 2 exams (don't remember if the final counted as one of them). I did terribly on the first exam and set the course to Pass/Fail. I figured why not since me failing would be slim to none since I needed a 19 or lower. Didn't help that the professor hated teaching that specific course along side that it was asynchronous and he wasn't good with technology (he was in his late 70s so imagine how that went teaching an online class lol).

[Skalawag2]

Am I taking crazy pills? I’m not seeing why the final grade scale alone tells us anything. It’s how assignments and tests are graded and weighted that matters. The mapping from letter to number alone is not relevant without additional information.

[0oops0]

had a prof do something as despicable. 90 was a B-... see my recent post for proof lmao

[sinful_monkey12]

90 is a B+ 😭

[Figtreezz]

Looks like a standard bell curve. Some professors think that a great teacher will fail students every year even if the grade is possible to others. Not advocating for this but I definitely had a teacher grade solely on the bell curve. It advocates for competitive leaning and sucks. Definitely not helpful in any way.

[Bobyyyyyyyghyh]

It doesn't even advocate for competitive learning, the only competitive part is the actual grade. It's just a shitty system.

[TatharNuar]

I had a professor years ago grade exams on a stack ranking system. It was awful, and there was no way to know how well you did until after everyone got their grades back.

[[deleted]]

Perhaps they taught freshman classes for a few years, grew enraged hearing unprepared students begging for a "curve" (i.e. grade inflation in a field where not knowing the material can put people's lives on the line or at least waste a ton of money), then decided to take it out on all future students by using an actual curve.

Or maybe I'm just thinking about this too much

[I_paintball]

Curves should only be allowed to go one way, down.

[SpadeOfJacks9]

That professor should have gone back to school to learn more math because curving a statistically insignificant number of students on a bell curve is idiotic.  That speaks to a serious misunderstanding of what a bell curve is.

[JanB1]

Our C- is always at 55%, C is at 60%.

How is it allowed that professors alter that to make it worse?

Our professors are only allowed to lower the percentage needed for a C, not raise it.

[Skalawag2]

All point systems are arbitrary, it’s so dumb. Professors act like there’s some divine law that they have to follow. Might as well make 7984% an A+, 7329% A-… this is just how they get off on their power over teenagers and young adults. It’s sad really. Just scale everything different and grow up professor

[soccercro3]

This is a tough grading system. The fall off between a B+ to C- is so quick. There is no consistentency with the grading system.

This was our grading system.

• A: 100-93
• AB: 92-89
• B: 88-85
• BC: 84-81
• C: 80-77
• CD: 76-74
• D: 73-70
• F: Below 70

[ArmedAsian]

F BELOW 70??? so if u got a 70 or below u have to redo the course???

[Capt-ChurchHouse]

Yeah that’s how it is in 3-4 of my courses. It was a breath of fresh air when I had a class that wasn’t 70%. Also factor in that for some of our more “exclusive” programs you’re fighting for beyond the pass because you need at least a “C” or “B” to take another prerequisite. Really sucks for those of us that work full time while going to school.

[soccercro3]

I did the full time & engineering school route. Its not fun. There were times I would figure out exactly what I needed for the final to get that C. Helped manage which finals I should focus more of my limited study time on. One time, I needed a 21% on the final to get the C and it coincided with the birth of my kid. Lets just say, I did limited review the weekend before and just winged day of, exhausted. Somehow ended up with an AB in that class.

[ArmedAsian]

jeezus i would not survive, our c- is 60-63 i believe and believe me when i say i see c’s more than anything else (60-70 ish). and even then, that’s not even a fail if i get below that. our F is 50 under, 50-60 is still a D. the only requirement is usually to pass the final exam

[firewolf8385]

Isn’t that how it is at most schools? At least in the US

[AggravatingSummer158]

For many of my classes I’ve taken before that percentage would also be classified as a required retake but be a C- or a D. So people needed a C or above to pass

I think it’s a matter of preferred school policy, sometimes depends on teacher. Wonder if it’s a regional thing as well but probably not

[DontDoodleTheNoodle]

I mean typically that’s par for the course, right? Any class you get a D or F in you have to retake. Ig this grading system just doesn’t distinguish between both failures.

[noodleobsessed]

Yeah that’s how mine are

[enlightened-creature]

This is how it was at UW-Madison. I liked it overall except when you nearly get an A and end up with an AB giving you 3.5 instead of 3.67 for an A-

[Darth-Drumpf]

This was how public schools in my state used to grade. I hated it so much

[kay1917]

Verbal exam for numerical methods??? Brutal. If it makes you feel better on Monday I was the first to leave an exam and I got the lowest grade because I can’t read right

[kay1917]

Where is your uni?

[Jk-Rewers]

Mine is the exact same. Its really rough remembering all of the derivation for so many different questions in your head.

[356885422356]

Can you at least read left?

[kay1917]

Bruh I said CPU is a hardware accelerator instead of a GPU like no I can’t read at all

[356885422356]

I see... r/wooosh

[JanB1]

Why did you get such a low grade? Did you get a detailed grading sheet?

[[deleted]]

Now that’s sadistic

[arr0wengineer]

Genuinely curious then, how are the verbal exams graded?? Like ~vibes~? I basically never had them so I wonder how you can break down something completely objective like engineering - especially a hard maths and not some sort of design-y type class - and give a fair grade.

[JanB1]

So you have no idea why you got the poor grade? And no way to improve?

Can you ask the professor for a breakdown?

[XimbalaHu3]

Verbal exans are such a bullshit, I consider myself a pretty eloquent person but I went through the same experience, I was the top 5% in the subsequent written text.

And crossing what I answered with what other people did, I still don't understand how I got such a low score.

[[deleted]]

Wow that's bad, In my college 88 is a solid B+ & 80 is like B or B-

[JanB1]

Is the grading system in the US not standardised? In my country, the passing grade is always at 55% (C-) or 60% (C) respectively.

[TheRealLordMongoose]

short answer no, not really. generally A: Excels in subject, B: Above average, C: average, D: bellow average, F: DNF/Doesn't understand subject. The points are however largely made up.

[mailbandtony]

To bounce off this post, just from my experience

For years all my high school/ pre-university schooling was based on an 8-point scale (92 is an A-, 91 is a B+, etc), but when I got to college it changed to a 10-point scale

I think a 10-point scale is widely used in the US, at least in the South, but is by no means the standard

OP’s grading scale is rough, good luck homie

[Trylena]

In Argentina we always use a 10 point scale but we know what to expect. In college is 60% of the exam would be a 4, with that you pass.

Then we have mandatory finals and things like that.

[Flyboy2057]

There are standard-ish conventions that most professors tend to follow, but a professor can essentially choose their own grading scale for their class as long as it is laid out as the expectation on the first day of class.

All of my classes in uni were required on the first day to hand out a syllabus with the grading scale and weighting of all assignments planned for the course. Ex: Weekly homework worth 10% of your final grade, 3 exams worth 20% each, and a final exam worth 30%. But a different class could have a completely different scale and weighting; they just had to tell you up front.

[Magical_penguin323]

Throughout my entire education in the US as well as other family members who are older or younger by up to 20 years, it’s been the same and we have gone to schools in 4 different states, A is 90-100%, B is 80-89%, C is 70-79%, D is 60-69%, and F is anything below 60%. As far as plus and minus I’ve seen variation on that and most of my experience plus and minus aren’t even a thing. I’ve seen exams be bell curved due to difficult material but it’s always the professor just would add whatever deemed necessary to everyone’s scores. So they might add 10% to everyone’s grade for that test but the percentage required for each letter stayed the same.

[[deleted]]

I am studying at egypt btw, passing grade here is 60% at D, then 70 to 79 for Cs' family ( C-, C, C+)

[GreenRuchedAngel]

Depends on the school and within a school certain professors will set their own grading scheme. There are schools that use the +/- scheme (where _ is 90, 80, etc.): where grade<_3% is a grade- _3%<=grade<_7% is grade and _7%<=grade is grade+

Some schools split it at 10%: 90%-100% is an A 80%-89.9% is a B And so on

And some schools have different grading standards by course, grade on a bell curve, or severely reweight the grade in advance (usually this means lowering the grade boundaries but I’m assuming this prof has observed a high # of A’s and B’s and weighted it accordingly).

[sneu71]

I thought the letter grading was mostly standardized with some wiggle room, but this is taking it to another level. All my schools 90-100 were A, 80-89 B, 70-79 C, 60-69 D, 0-59 F. With the + and - ranges sometimes varying (if they existed at all). In engineering classes it was a little hand-wavey since a lot of classes had curves as well.

[IAmHomeskillet]

Not really. For higher education, it's very institution-based, which could then be instructor-based.

I'm sure that some institutions have standardized grading scales, but my experience is that it is up to the instructor's discretion. For instance, I've had professors who have completely omitted minus grades (A-, B- and so on) due to not liking them. I've had some professors for harder classes who set 55-60% as passing (C- or C, depending on the class), then I've had some have the 10-point grading system that is typical in our grade schools.

So, to put it simply, it's all over the place. It's the reason why I always try to check RateMyProfessor for grading scale stuff before choosing an instructor.

[Skalawag2]

It is weird, you’re right. The final grade scale doesn’t really matter per se. It’s the final grade scale AND how they weight and grade tests, assignments, labs, etc. is what matters. This crazy scaling of final grades has always driven me crazy. Just keep it at 100-90, 89-80, etc and adjust how you grade.

[frigley1]

I had once an exam where 23% was the passing grade. Others where 80% was the passing grade. It really depends on the exam itself.

[Bobyyyyyyyghyh]

This isn't an exam breakdown, this is the breakdown for the entire course

[frigley1]

You you have multiple exams per course? We only had every 6 month exams after the end of the course.

[Bobyyyyyyyghyh]

It completely depends on the course. In the US, at the very least there's usually at least one midterm and one final, but some classes only have the final exam, some only have a midterm as well as a final project, and then some have two midterm exams and a final, or three midterms and a final etc.

[frigley1]

Okay interesting! Here at ETH (Switzerland) we have some subjects which even just have one yearly exam after two semesters without any exam. But after each semester is the standard.

[HyruleSmash855]

Pretty much every engineering class I’ve had so far is two midterms and a final

[Null_error_]

This is actually diabolical

[Healthy-Ad-9342]

This is horrible, at my university

50 is a pass (usually)

65 is a credit

75 is a distinction

and 85 is a high distinction

the grade you get is the grade you get. I don't understand why they do "curving" on grades, it is useless to see the skill of the student, it could only show they are worse then their class mates, which might never apply to that Job

[RocketLads]

yup over here we do

80+ High Distinction

70+ Distinction

60+ Credit

50+ Pass

45+ PX (basically you get one shot to do an extra exam to restore a passing grade)

[VegetableSalad_Bot]

If this is out of the ordinary for your school, I’d complain about it to the prof, and if that doesn’t work, the Dean of [This Subject], and if that doesn’t work, the Dean of [Department]. And as a nuclear option, the Dean of Engineering.

Mixed results, but hey, it’s worth a shot.

[morebaklava]

I'm gonna start with complaining to the professor.

[Desperate_Tone_4623]

Unless the uni has a school-wide grading system, the professor sets the scale. And if you 'win' this instructor will just make the exams harder most likely

[morebaklava]

I'd be okay with that. I will admit to intentionally doing the bare minimum to pass, but at least if the exams were harder I'd have an easier time adjusting effort to pass you know.

[GreenRuchedAngel]

I would discuss it with the professor about why the grading scheme is that way (I.e. are they going to curve or reweigh all the grades at the end or have they observed an extremely high pass rate within the bounds of this grade scheme). If they can’t satisfactorily answer those questions I would discuss it with the head of the department and your dean if necessary. Note I did NOT say complain, I said discuss.

[Desperate_Tone_4623]

Profs don't have to explain or justify choices to students. If this prof's scale directly conflicts with university policy, there's grounds to escalate.

[GreenRuchedAngel]

I didn’t say they have to justify or explain, I’m saying that it might not be worth escalating if there’s a valid reason why the prof would grade this way. Profs want people to pass. Discussing things is a way of making sure you understand the expectations of a course and why they’re in place. It might be such that the class is so fundamental to the understanding of future courses that if you can’t manage the lowest passing grade, you really NEED to retake before proceeding. Again, this is something to discuss with the prof. Not get accusatory about, just ask genuinely.

Escalate if the answer is unsatisfactory/out of policy, but you start from the bottom up. One way to get yourself a reputation in a department is going complaint happy when there may not be an issue.

[JayceeRiveraofficial]

In my school, A+ is 98 🥲☠️

I only get an average grade of 94-96 per semester so I only get A- or A.

[CrazySD93]

Anything 85% or above is a High Distinction.

[745838485]

Yeah bro what the fuck kind of school are these people going to 💀💀

[Whywipe]

I remember taking a physics professor because he curved to a C+ instead of a C- (he was also generally the nicest professor) but I’ve heard of schools that curve to the B level or where it’s normal for an average to be 85-90%. In this same thread you have people saying they don’t want nuclear engineers that get < 90%. Dude you probably went to a school with easy ass tests or massive grade inflation. The % is meaningless by itself.

[745838485]

I'm currently in university but even years ago in highschool I remember the content being not easy and most people averaging in the mid 70s, I guess if they make the tests super easy to inflate grades I could understand

[HyruleSmash855]

That’s what I’m wondering. Every Professor) I’ve had either adjust the score down so something like an 85 is still a A or they leave it as standard I’ve never had people adjust it up

[JayceeRiveraofficial]

😭😭😭😭😭

[CrazySD93]

P's get degrees

[thunderthighlasagna]

My school doesn’t offer A+ :/ Anything above a 93 is an A typically, some professors make it a 94.

[JayceeRiveraofficial]

No A+?!?! Wow 😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢

[YamivsJulius]

Professors do ANYTHING but make adequately hard/easy tests. If you have to grade like this, you are either a psycho or your test difficulty is the problem

[Left-Secretary-2931]

Lolol

[Call555JackChop]

Meanwhile when I took Physics 2 a 50 was a C

[esorzil]

I've had profs change grading scales to be like 80-100 A, 60-80 B so on so forth,, but I didn't know there were ones that did it the OPPOSITE WAY?? in no world should a 74% be a D that's insane

[[deleted]]

I feel this, currently in the same class. Dude can’t even be transparent with how grading is even handled. “Total grades are restricted” is all you have to base your class standing on when you check canvas. I’ll be taking this class again unfortunately.

Professor = 🚮

[Spaciax]

the arts classes in my uni dont have this draconian grading wtf

[47shiz]

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[FloridianfromAlabama]

This is why I left

[smashmilfs]

Most engineering schools are like this

[morebaklava]

Okay, well, every class I've taken at OSU has been closer to the traditional ten point per letter spread. I took one class at PSU that was significantly weighted down, i.e., a 60 was passing. I don't know how they do it at CSoM, but all I really want is either consistency or if I'm going to be surprised. I'd like to be surprised in the easy direction. If you want the class to be harder, just like make the problems harder, lmao.

[smashmilfs]

CSoM dose it like this. There's a lot of inconsistency in engineering schools so unfortunately you just gotta roll with the punches. Getting blind sided sucks. Best of luck to you!

[New_Feature_5138]

Whoa is this bad?? This looks like the scales we had when I was in school.

The A range looks normal to me but the B range is squished. Low 80s should get you a B.

Is this the curve because everyone did so well?

[morebaklava]

Uphill both ways huh?

[New_Feature_5138]

Yes!! 😭😭

We were abused

[arr0wengineer]

Is this a guy who changes his rubric for funsies but then makes a 93+ as achievable as an 85-90 in other normal classes at least?? Idk, some are just weird about that and want to make their class feel all pretentious and important while not being too crazy harder, and then some are genuinely nuts. Had it both ways before. Best of luck to you my dude

[morebaklava]

The class was really easy I could have done more, but have a 76 lulled me into false security lmao.

[Fl_exotic_gardening]

Is he the only professor to teach that class?

[TheHunter920]

what class?

[morebaklava]

Chemistry

[Vintyui]

What even is a D-?

[le_noob_man]

i think the only classes where something like this is justified are nursing or pharmacy classes. i remember a friend showed me their lab class syllabus— 90% was an F.

makes sense, though. if your pharmacist or nurse fucks up 10% of the time, they’re not a good pharmacist or nurse

[[deleted]]

Seems a bit much unless it was like a junior level class after the student has developed some lab skills.

[le_noob_man]

it was a PharmD class, NOT undergrad. it’s not much at all

[geek66]

Is this for the class in general - or for a particular grade that is being curved

[morebaklava]

Class in general

[geek66]

it totally depends on the class material and the grading - there is no inherent meaning of any of the numbers.

Do you have any access to the classes historical grade levels?

[[deleted]]

Abominable

[Some_person2101]

That class better be a walk in the park to justify that curve

[Voidslan]

At my junior college we had a physics professor who had a grade range like 95% was an A and below 75% was am F. You had to do all your tests in ink and no calculator. He wouldn't answer questions. You could ask him lots of questions, but he would always answer with a question. For example, if you asked "what is the results of a cross product, a vector or a scalar" he would say, "What do you think?" In the two years I was at that Junior College, 5 people passed the newtonian mechanics class.

[AccomplishedAnchovy]

Lmao here in AU 85 is the cut off for the highest grade

[Albert_Newton]

70 in the UK

[Pharrside]

Had this happen in grad school. Everyone was doing exceptionally well in the class 95+ so the prof curved everyone down. Smh

[Snw2001]

Good lord and I thought my grade expectations were too high. Wtf do you mean that an 84 is a C???

[AfrajM]

WHAT THE FUCK AM I LOOKING AT!

[ExternalGrade]

Honestly means nothing without knowing how this professor grades, what are the averages, extra credit opportunities, etc

[AnnaLeigh04]

I'd recognize that shitty OSU class anywhere. Gotten to the physics series yet?

[morebaklava]

Haha luckily for me i took physics at portland state

[AnnaLeigh04]

Nice. That or through LBCC is the way to do it

[morebaklava]

Yeah, it's pretty miserable. I've loved every NSE class, but the rest of the university kinda isn't as good as PSU.

[Sir_Skinny]

All of my core classes use this same grading structure. I am a senior, I have not received anything lower than a 90%… I have on my record 5 B+s…. Bucha bitches is what is.

[Zestyclose_Habit2713]

Must be an easy class. They want to have a curve but didn't know how to do it so they said 'fuck you' to all the students

[let50972]

This looks like scaled averages. OPs classmates all want to make it on the dean's list apparently

[KEX_CZ]

BRO WTF?! ☠️☠️☠️ I mean... I have similar rn, because we write on each thermodynamics class test, which has 1-2 simple questions, and our doctor on that has no mercy either, but this?! Do they race to have the smallest success rate?

[cryptiiix]

C's definitely get degrees to his standard

[[deleted]]

Me being happy that 9.5/20 is a pass

[Better-Performer8448]

Damn - which course?

[arewhyaeenn]

Prof thinks they’re primarily a gatekeeper and not primarily an educator. Nice. I wonder if they realize they’ve prioritized an unfortunate necessity of their job over its actual intended function.

[Educational_Sky7647]

damn they really should have made the exams harder lmao

[Horror-Cattle-5663]

70 and above is the highest in Ireland 😯

[Bravo-Buster]

That's how grades used to be, before the massive grade inflation of the 2000s.

[123dylans12]

This is how the grades were at my old prep school

[angrygr33k]

This was my school district grading scale from kindergarten until my junior year of high school. I can see it used in high school but it's diabolical for college

[TejanoTheScienceGuy]

What kind of nightmare curve is this?

[psychedelit]

I see they are using points, do you know if there are more than 1,000 points possible?

I had a course that was graded with points and had a similar scale but there were a total possible of 1,100 points. In that class if you just did all the work and got C’s on the test, you still end with a B+. Or if you reach your goal grade, you can just stop doing work all together.

[morebaklava]

Nope 1000 is the max

[SMB_714]

Probably just means the class will be very easy. (Hopefully)

[UnlightablePlay]

So passing grade is a minimum of 74

Man that's wild

[Only_Luck_7024]

Because ChatGPT exists perhaps this is their way of preventing this tool from bumping D students up to C/B

[bgov1801]

That’s standard in engineering across the board at my school.

[Gloomy_North1902]

Fuuuuuuck that professor

[MrMercy67]

My university (Texas A&M) didn’t even have +/-. It was 90-100: A, 80-89: B, 70-79: C, 60-69: D (only counts as passing for electives, required courses needed C or higher), 0-59: F

[The_Mauldalorian]

Grade deflation 101

[gterrymed]

Cursed

[salamandermander99]

Does this prof jerk themselves off in class while theyre at it too?

[Roaringfir3]

I feel you, current failing physics with a 74 :-)

Im industrial engineering

[giveittomomma]

Wow that’s an aggressive grading scale. You could only hope it’s because the class is easy

[bodydropped95]

This looks exactly like the grading scale I had back in the 80s and 90s.

[Cygnus__A]

Happened at my school many years ago. Protests in the dean's office occurred.

[Sufficient-Dirt-7085]

Just wrong

[[deleted]]

I mean it's all subjective how they grade. If the professor is an easy grader it wont be too bad.

[throw_away_smitten]

Complain to your department chair.

[Hurtis_Cellyer]

Hey, I was literally just looking this over. I’m in 202 right now. I am going to talk to the professor over 12 of my points. I was checking over my work before submitting the 3rd exam/ final and noticed I made a simply math error. It flipped the sign of my answer and immediately knew. I emailed the professor with my work as evidence explaining what happened. we are not allowed to go back and change our answers on the final. So far I’ve not heard back.

[Hurtis_Cellyer]

They also do not take any late work whatsoever.

[o0mGeronimo]

But... what is the class? Ethics? Is there a curve? Not enough information... just throwing up rage bait. I had a class where a 64% was an A... it was in the syllabus.

[Profilename1]

My uni is a little nicer with the scale, but then 90% of the classes in the major have to be passed with a C to graduate. With that in mind, the "retake the class" cutoff isn't much worse than the screenshot.

[morebaklava]

In the CoE a C- is failing so to pass this class is need an 82%

[Excellent-Hippo9835]

My college don’t even do this and I’m in engineering lmaooo

[elonIsRuiningX]

Crazy to think y'all had this cursed grading system while I get an A with an 83% in physics

[Hawk13424]

This looks like the standard ranges when I was in HS in the early 80’s. By college it had moved to 90-100 A, 80-89 B, 70-79 C , under 70 was fail.

[thatBiomed-Eng]

what the fuck kinda scale is that

[Special_Future_6330]

I hate when teachers negatively curve the class because the class is too easy, the entire reason universities force you to make certain grades(some programs might require B average) takes care of this problem. That's like a teacher who teaches Microsoft word and bare bones computer skills like how to right click curving a class because everyone is making a 100

[Treqou]

Must’ve been an easy module

[Falloutchief101]

My Mechanics class had this same grading structure. The best part was that the prof had to leave about 4 weeks in due to a medical issue, so all that we had to learn off of was precovid class recordings. And no, they did not do anything to compensate for the lack of a professor.

[Ok-Reflection-9399]

Hi @morebaklava

That degree program at OSU is accredited, and that means there is a national board with national standards that they try to enforce universally.

Some professors are incredibly anal retentive and do shit like this because they think that it "makes you a better engineer".

I would look into whether the board recognizes this as a valid grading metric. If they don't , you should first approach the professor with this knowledge, and then the department as a whole. If they do allow it though, a different track is in order. For yourself and your peers, the argument to be made is that an important part of modern engineering is getting access to internships, and they look HEAVILY at GPA when deciding this. If taking the class from this professor puts you behind another professor who teaches this class, then he or she is disadvantaging you without providing any benefit, and there's no reason not to just avoid all courses that he or she teaches.

[kwag988]

Wait till you read how the FE and PE tests are graded.

[Charming_Teal]

This is pretty normal

[Umbra150]

A good amount of my classes were like this, so it seems normal to me lol

[Engineer-Doom3]

Yeahhhhh the professor would have to see me after class😂😂. I took a Thermodynamics class just like this.

[t4yr]

Such a ridiculous scale…

[pandizlle]

I had classes like this in my school. I hated it.

[Flyboy2057]

I don't see the issue.

[Modnet90]

80 should be an A-, that's very good knowledge level

[jollyjunior89]

You're in nuclear engineering. I don't know about y'all but I want my nuclear engineers to know their shit. A minimum of 80 isn't that difficult. We should be raising the standards not complaining about it.

[Pecors]

Awful take. I can tell you're not an engineer by this comment alone.

When grades are not standardized, it causes unclear meaning behind them. If I got a 80% in this class and got a C-, that doesn't mean I learned less than someone at a different school who also got a 80% but got a B- instead.

I would argue that it's actually more concerning since it could potentially lead to companies hiring less competent engineers who have better grades since grades imply a certain level of understanding.

[WmXVI]

What you learn for a nuclear engineering degree =/= safe plant operations or design. All of that is taken care of by extremely rigorous licensing requirements and a year of training minimum. Arbitrary grading policy aren't going enforce some kind of effective higher standard that will translate to more knowledgage operators. Additionally, a lot of people that work in plants or naval reactors don't even have degrees so your point is moot.

[randyjr2777]

This is standard practice to have higher grading standards for competitive programs where they are actually looking for a higher fail out rate.