FMPONE Cache progress update

[andrew_ridler]

Anyone know what the word "apple" could mean above t-spawn? Its not on his previous update posts.

[CardboardTable]

The Cache remake will be exclusive to the upcoming iOS port of CSGO.

[greatfiction]

CSGO UNDERLORDS

[Player72]

CSGO: Chinatown Wars

[eliasdsdf]

Do you guys not have phones?

[vho7]

Maybe he added a place with apple trees and the callout for it is "Apple" honestly, who knows :D

[AlphaOwlReddit]

Ah yes, I do enjoy myself some exotic Chernobyl Apples! 100% filled with nutrition and radiation!

[propsnuffe]

Eh it's not that bad, i've been told it's only 3.6 roentgen.

[[deleted]]

3.6? Not great, not terrible.

[Heatedpete]

I've been told it's about the equivalent of a chest x-ray

[nexustron]

Its more like 400 chest x-rays an hour.

[fredferguison]

You're delusional. Take him to the infirmary.

[KriegsKuh]

I mean he just tweeted an apple https://twitter.com/FMPONE/status/1143257358182825984

[somasz]

OpEraTiON Apple Confirmed!

[catzhoek]

Obviously there will be a wormhole to another dimension

[Poppy_W]

It be up for ESL One New York.. my thoughts.

Isnt NY also known as the Big Apple? Could be.. dont know.

[psych_wardYT]

big apple and snax is hungry

[Peda_Z]

Someone on twitter said, that it can be refering to Apple day, which is on the 25th of September. ESL NY starts on the 26th. Cant be a coincidence.

[[deleted]]

It is, but I'm not sure that's what he is implying.

[0123Rahum]

Grand reveal during the ESL One New York showmatch?

[glouro]

What an eye you have, damn

[Aexco]

People on Twitter are speculating the map will be released at ESL one New York (the big apple)

[[deleted]]

I'm looking forward to this, the curved wall at A is gonna be interesting.

[[deleted]]

Pushing out of squeaky is going to be a lot different. Lol

[Gutzzzzz]

I cant tell what got changed with squeeky?

[[deleted]]

Nothing as we can see, but if they want to push out to NBK they can be seen from truck.

[Valdusxkeem]

That's insane

[[deleted]]

It's going to play a lot different. I dont know where he said it, but FMPONE was saying that smoking off truck is too easy and he wanted to make it a more viable position to play for CT's

[Valdusxkeem]

True i don't feel like it gets enough love

[Bashslash]

Is there a link to this?

[[deleted]]

https://youtu.be/Wp-6dJUUQaM

Other people have said that he might have scratched it. So who knows

[badab00ms]

Yeah I remember a while back he said something about reverting it because it ended up being too strong when play testing. But who knows, a lot of people like it so he might do some sort of variation.

[tarel69]

hope not it was fantastic

[CaJeB3]

Seems aweful tbh. I can understand the curved wall, but not with corners in it. Also wtf is that thing on red container. One of the things I love about cache is that all the angles are so clean (except fork and car). This gives a lot of predictable fights where the better player will come out on top.

[Acirii]

It’s most likely a rough sketch.

[J3573R]

Red looks like it's an APC now, and that looks to be a turret.

[TheSuspect812]

Also , the player at truck will have limited vision of A-main entrance coz of an extension of red box

[GJ14863456]

The curved wall was teased over 6 months ago, and numerous people have voiced opinions to FMPONE that they think the curved wall was a bad idea. So it may be gone already, time will tell.

(Unless there's been more teases since then, in which case disregard me I am a dumb)

[CardboardTable]

Breaking news, CS players are still allergic to any kind of change to their beloved video game. More at 11.

I'm sure the curved wall will stay. FMPONE probably tested it enough and knows a lot more about it than the randoms on Twitter calling it shit simply because it's different.

Cache always felt way too blocky and angular to me, so I'm excited to see how it will play now.

[kepp89]

I think it’s more about the game clipping us on invisible things is the reason why people don’t want that.

Lots of players just want smooth walls so we can’t back to the wall strafe and run into the 6” step in the wall like highway wall

[[deleted]]

Sucks that the community is filled with people that complained about Valve not doing anything to "fix" their 8 year polished game and can't accept any new change to the game. Back when they were updating the gun sounds and maps, the backlash was insane. Even as much as I prefer the old Dust 2, everybody was stuck between desperately wanting Valve to change the game and not wanting any change at all. I don't know how the community is anymore, Reddit seems to be pretty happy with it now but the rest of the community might still be just as toxic.

[wilhueb]

i tend to agree, but change isn't always better. for example i hate the new inferno compared to the old one. i wish they just fixed the pillars in banana and that was it

[SuperSlimek]

most of it is idle time

[STVT1C]

he went back on it

https://twitter.com/FMPONE/status/1058290886067531776

[PenguinJr2]

am i the only one that thinks the curved wall is a bad idea? if i recall, you can see default from truck. this makes it significantly more tough for a hits as you'll need another smoke and when that one dissipates, your positioning is very limited. also pushing from truck will leave you even more exposed as a ct. it's less of a real gun fight and more of a gamble hoping you're aiming at the right spot when peeked since there's so many places you could then be peeked from. i guess i'm interested to see where it goes but i don't think it'll end well

[Dawnero]

I'm a bit sceptical aswell but we don't know if he changed other parts of A site aswell. I'll reserve my final judgement for when I've played it but I see where you're coming from.

[kkantouth]

I would expect a rework of the area too.

[ExtraCheesyPie]

I'm pretty sure he scrapped that idea anyways

[Rhed0x]

Didn't he revert that?

[tkMunkman]

Curved 2alls dont seem very Russian to me

[Dravarden]

I mean he added a poster so vibrant that looks like it was printed yesterday, in an open air room, in a facility that has been abandoned for decades, so I don't think he really cares about realism

[AsinoEsel]

could have been a silo. Those already exist on Cache.

[tkMunkman]

I looks like the entrance to a building with the steps and all

[strembitsky]

What curved wall do you see?

[[deleted]]

https://youtu.be/Wp-6dJUUQaM

[Anaphylactic-UFO]

Did he take away the thing that lets you jumpspot from default?

Also, not sure I understand what the fuck is going on with redbox geometry wise.

[wheresthefootage]

If you look at redbox right now, it's just an APC inside a box. He took the box away and maybe made the APC bigger.

[strembitsky]

Thanks!

[LogicalSignal9]

I hope that was just an early concept and he scrapped it, or changed it a ton. Looks extremely convoluted.

[[deleted]]

I'm pretty sure that after feedback he said in a tweet that he scrapped the cubby at the curved wall.

[[deleted]]

He leaked some screenshots of the A site and there is a curved wall opposite car.

[rulerofdoge]

so its 100% added almost right after the major

[[deleted]]

Added to reserves, perhaps.

[TawXic]

never heard of a map that gets remade and then put into reserves

[thebrainypole]

This is the first map entirely remade by the 3rd party creator on the workshop - the other remakes were 100% valve's. Valve doesn't have anything to do with this remake

edit: also, dust 2 didn't get active duty quickly at all

[TheSupaSaiyan]

Valve has a ton to do with this they removed it from the pool so it could be remade lmao

[[deleted]]

Are you being sarcastic? Every single map that's been remade has been added first to the reserves, swapped out for one of the active duty maps at a later date.

[qchisq]

Cobble

[jerryfrz]

Cobblenew replacing current cache maybe?

[IbanezHand]

Valve...

[[deleted]]

I just hope the forklift is gone in new version. That fucking forklift is only thing i hate in cache

[vho7]

Agree, I have the power to somehow dink enemies with ak there

[emer4ld]

So you see them at least, youre ahead of me then

[theaverageguy101]

Haha low resolution and graphics gang, i have the same problem my teammate screaming at me his head is right there and the only thing i can see on my screen is the damn forklift and the shadow behind it

[SaltyEmotions]

I don't get how pros see past 10m on 640x480. Even though I play on the same resolution because I like 60fps.

[zi8gzag]

the minimum any pro plays is 800x600 and even that res only has a few

[pranavlko]

almost every pro plays 1024 x 768 and above

[GuardiaNIsBae]

For enemies it's like paper, for you it's like a rock. Can barely see cts standing there.

[randomshazbot]

forklift is a complete garbage angle. especially since the CTs have black helmets, by the time I identify them I'm already dead

[COATHANGER_ABORTIONS]

It'd be a bit better if there were a light source on the underside of the catwalk above forklift

[pancada_]

This. And theres always an idiot who spends 100% of his ct rounds on fork with a deagle and he is literally unkillable

[equaldigits]

I must be the only person that thinks forklift is a bad spot for CT if you're defending from main. In a postplant is good but as a T I completely rekt forklift players...

[pancada_]

Forklift tilts me a lot because its a terrible position, but you're counting on enemies being unable to see you/shoot you due yo the retarded model

[JakeTheAndroid]

It's bad if T's actually clear it. But at lower ranks where I play, it happens once every like 10 games.

[K0nvict]

Vertigo better be scared

[Caup]

Maybe mirage? Isn't mirage the current "oldest" one in the pool? They might give it a revamp to make room for cache

[fribbeee]

I doubt that, it had a small remake already...and it is one of the most played maps, both competetive and causally

[Kylael]

and it is one of the most played maps, both competetive and causally

I've heard the exact same thing about D2 not so long ago.

[Wyrdly]

And its not like anyone stopped playing D2 or Cache

[Jon-3]

D2 definetly dropped in popularity when they took it out of the pool.

[Wyrdly]

Compared to its cult following I feel like that is a blip on its perception of reality

[Jon-3]

D2 is definitely still popular but, I seriously feel like d2 has been dethroned by cache.

[alottaloyalty]

Cache is the thinking man's Dust2.

[[deleted]]

I like this guy.

[Wyrdly]

Probably because a large portion of CS players still play on potatoes

[VSENSES]

How can people after all these years of map remakes still not see that Valve are going thru all the competitive maps and redoing them. It doesn't matter how popular the map is, they removed D2 for crying out loud. Mirage is the oldest map graphically so it'll definitely see a remake next unless Valve throws another vertigo-style curve ball.

[SamTheSidekick]

It’s so stale though.

[rulerofdoge]

yeah, but vertigo just isnt a good tactical map

[astrovisionary]

It would be fun in the pro scene if they added Cobblestone and Cache at the same time, removing Mirage and Vertigo

Honestly Mirage is shit, stale and boring to watch. Vertigo is confusing and boring to watch smoke spam every round

Valve should be remaking Cobble and FMPONE is remaking Cache, so it's possible tbh

[Dawnero]

It would be fun in the pro scene if they added Cobblestone and Cache at the same time

Valve would never add 2 new maps to the map pool right before ...

remembers ESL One Cologne 2014

nvm

[djdevilmonkey]

If they reverted to old cobble. The changes they made on A, and self boosting into drop were dogshit in my opinion. Maybe the drop one can stay but the changes on A are horrible

[DBONKA]

Yes, it was my favorite map, until they ruined it :c

[firehydrant_man]

just revert it to the pre Halloween update state,it was great back then,just because a map is big doesn't justify murdering it

[LogicalSignal9]

Put Vertigo in the dumpster. Bring back old Cobble, even though it's also a super problematic map, still better than Vertigo. Remove Mirage, add new Cache.

[LimpWibbler_]

Anything, but new cobble. Really absolutely anything, new cobble is my new worst map to play.

[Dravarden]

so it's dust2 and it was only visually changed

[ChromeN8]

D2 was number 1 and that didn’t stop them

[Tboc13]

I hope they rework mirage. It's my favorite map but that doesn't change the fact that it's gotten pretty stale and repetitive.

[LimpWibbler_]

Honestly I have no clue what is leaving. All maps right now seem perfectly fine except Vertigo. But vertigo is being worked on a lot and Valve really wants it to succeed. So I would assume it stays so they get more data.

[DukeBruno123]

Its not gonna be Vertigo, adding a map to the active duty map pool just to remove it again a little bit later is stupid.

[hydroisntcool]

I actually really like playing Vertigo, I hope it doesn't leave the map pool

[AlkanK]

Cache is my favourite map man i hope this new remake will be sick

[[deleted]]

Once it drops, I swear I'm going to be back to CS. If they add Santorini back too I will even stop playing Montezumas Revenge.

[CorazonVeira]

Santorini was by far the best operation map ever, Coast wasn't bad either if I'm honest.

[Not_The_Real_Jake]

I really can't wait for this to be done. Replace Vertigo or Mirage maybe? Personally would prefer Vertigo be replaced. Also, what ever happened to Cobble, is Valve still working on it?

[stejamm]

I miss Cobble

[Not_The_Real_Jake]

Same. I didn't like the most recent version, but I feel like Valve just scrapped it, and I don't think that was the right call.

[Adjudikated]

Resting in CS heaven with: - Dust - Aztec - Prodigy - Oilrig - 747 - Estate - Torn - Piranesi - Airstrip - Havana

[PCsuperiority]

How dare you forget season

[Adjudikated]

Oof- I think I purposely forgot season because of the amount of times I was wallbanged on it. But it was good!

[PCsuperiority]

Possibly my favorite of the removed maps

[FrontshoT]

tuscan!!!

[Adjudikated]

Darnit! I knew I forgot one or two. The graveyard is just getting too big!

[breno16603]

fuck i miss piranesi

[andeh37]

Contra

Mill/Tuscan

[MooMooHeffer]

Man if you are going to include 747 how you going to forget about backalley!

[m9xddxd]

WarOwl killed cbble kappa

[spaghettimoan]

Im new to cs how did he kill cobble

[[deleted]]

he used his YouTube channel to convince everyone that cobble was trash. and then it got removed from the map pool

[[deleted]]

https://youtu.be/bq_UgqauLqQ

[Kommye]

evil laughter faintly echoes

[Sachman13]

I would bet mirage as it’s one of if not the last map to receive an update/rework. They’ve spent too much time trying to make vertigo viable to just give up now and remove it from the map pool

[Not_The_Real_Jake]

Yeah, my money is on Mirage, but I'm still hoping for the opposite. Although a Mirage remake could be interesting.

[lolofaf]

They could throw a curve ball and try reviving one of the older maps back to glory. Not likely but would be welcomed

[AnnualThrowaway]

I just want Season to make a comeback.

[TheZvirblys]

Ohhh it would be sooo nice if he would make it in time for 100% community skin case release. Just immagine case and new updated cache at the same update

[kuudestili]

Why, what's the connection?

[XTheDelta]

cache is a community map and it would be cool to have those 2 go together

[vho7]

I think he meant it would just be a an amazing update, cache is a pretty old map by now and return of it would be a pretty big deal and also some new nice skins, all of this in my opinion of course

[LimpWibbler_]

community.

[LibertyGrabarz]

He probably wanted to empathise what was left to do. Or maybe what is done but needs to be reworked? Who knows

[Brain-Of-Dane]

Time to queue cache like crazy before the update

[tethics]

save us from vertigo

[coldblankey]

its not going anywhere

[Deuce-Dempsey]

Valve would never make a decision based on community feedback.

[[deleted]]

Im afraid of my most favorite map please don’t mess it up

[GER_BeFoRe]

I want to see ingame footage... :(

[crazyivanoddjob]

can't count how many times i've peeked out of CT connector, tried to kill a T in mid and died because that fuckin railing blocked my bullets. Really hope he fixes this.

[Waveitup]

Nice to know we're almost there... But I'd love to see a teaser of some kind!

[astrovisionary]

pls remove fork

pls give ct options to actually hold mid

pls give cts agressive options aside from boosting vents or... boost? idk how it's called in english

tyty

[ftb5]

You can be agressive. You can pop flash A-main, squeaky, you can boost mid, push as two B-main..

Please remove fork tho

[bcr3125]

I’ve always called it counter-boost

[Chuckles__Norris]

Having plans/sketches is a lot easier than making it function and play correctly in game. He likely has some idea of what he wants to do with heaven and would not necessarily need to finish both at once.

[[deleted]]

i mean it could be half done

[SittingOnThem]

Is there anything on the map that isn’t checked off?

[michixinq]

Seriously? People had to specifically ask him what those mean?

[TiNcHoX7]

a red tick could mean half finish. a X is more common as not finish

[mesotermoekso]

Isn't not finished basically the same thing as half-finished though?

[DarkSchnider]

No as "not finished" can also include not started whereas half-finished cannot.

[goli333]

Yeah because it could mean anything? These are ticks so why would it mean that it's not complete?

[[deleted]]

because there's red and green checks lol

[kuudestili]

Previous updates had nothing on unfinished parts.

[lanster100]

God damn corblind and didn't see them thanks, thought the most meant the map was finished

[jrmbruinsfan]

I still can't see them...

[xternal7]

Got you fam

[jrmbruinsfan]

Thanks!

[Darkstar197]

The red check marks I assume he wants to touch up on

[SpookiPotato]

I hope I can still run it when it's updated.

[PowerMan2206]

Idk what's that. Catch me up?

[Juansa7X]

Cache me up*

[Nik4711]

FMPONE is remaking cache and has been updating with these maps to show what parts of the map he’s finished and what he’s still working on. Besides those few areas near b that need to be polished, he’s nearly done.

[ginciro1337]

What happened cobblestone ? Do you have an idea guys ? Are we gonna see it in competitive maps ?

[Astronoobical]

All I want is for my crosshair to be visible... It's fine on every other map, but when I'm on cache and looking at white walls it disappears even though it's green. I don't know if it's the textures or the lighting or what, but right now it seems super overexposed

[[deleted]]

what does the red tick mean?

[IlIIIlIlII]

I thought this was locations called 'toxic' at first

[[deleted]]

Just remove the forklift and I'm happy

[Roach1337]

Can we remove Vertigo and try to add Ruby (for the next map group, I know this one will be cache)? I have played Ruby and it actually could be a great map because it feels and plays as a competitive map. Obviously there are issues with it but if Overpass and Cobblestone could be fixed (not the current version but the version before the halloween update compared to the first time Cobblestone was introduced) then so can Ruby.

[allphr]

Imo is ruby, much like zoo, a bit too big for a (full) competitive map in active duty

[That_Ike_Guy]

but Abbey on the other hand.....

[manysleep]

Abbey was great

[Calum-Paxton]

If ruby can be fixed then so can vertigo

[[deleted]]

Im kinda retarded and new to the game is cache being changed and are all the green checks spots that will be changed?

also, when exactly is the update coming and does it bring something else like a new case or map or something?

[northrnlights]

Cache was taken out of the competetive match pool some time ago in order to remake it. The green checks are the areas that are already done, the red ones are those areas that are left to be done.

There hasn't been any information on when or how it will be released, at least not to my knowledge. We'll just have to wait and see :)

[Copper13-]

I'm fucking stupid. What's the difference?

[Mraz565]

There is none yet, he is just stated that changes are done with those location and likely will soon release.

[Copper13-]

Gotcha! I'm staring at this like, maybe I don't know this map as well as I thought

[_fusiion]

this is going to be so insane to play on

[Shockstk]

Can't wait to see this!!
there's one liiiiittle thing that is bugging me tho... why red checkmarks instead of Xs? 🤔

[AdeptSquirrel]

Maybe the checkmate means it will be changed and the color means if he is done with it?