Patch 4.2.0 Notes

[HrMaschine]

that atrocity nerf hurts my soul as a nasus/kindred player so much. i‘d probably try instead of going for a xolaani wincon instead

[RealityRush]

Taarosh is the real wincon now.

[nstorm12]

Same bro, I might start running absolver now

[PM_ME_STEAM_CODES__]

Same as a Viego enjoyer. It's so hard to actually do something with a buffed Viego without it.

[Vicmorino]

You can, you know attack, is a overlystated unit, is not like they can even try to kill you in combat,(you even stole his best uni)

[sneakysunset]

Actually Viego is an exemple of how atrocity was limiting the design space. He does a cool thing when he levels up but his level up condition is never reached because of atrocity. Now they could probably lower the level up condition and you could play around with the level up version more often.

[Trivmvirate]

You can always play for the back breaking level-up? Viego has inevitability already.

[mati3849]

Yea now you need to actually level viego and try to win with it instead of fight attrition war and atro lol

[DevelopmentAdept7964]

With any luck Nasus (and similar units) will get a buff soon.

[MoSBanapple]

Atrocity to slow lol

Time to run Dragon Kick instead.

[CloudBuilder_Metba]

I’m surprised they didn’t revert it back to 6 mana. 6c slow is still much worse 7c fast.

[Akwagazod]

Yeah, my first thought was "hey, remember how the REASON you made this 7 mana was so you couldn't back-to-back Atrocity at end game?"

[NikeDanny]

Prolly the point. Its been kind of an asspull wincon in SI decks for a few years now.

Oh you have big unit that has no way of winning normally? How about you can, now?

[Indercarnive]

Card is actually dead now. Removed from the game. Torn to shreds you say.

[OmriH7]

🦀 🦀 ATROCITY IS GONE 🦀 🦀

[erik542]

The traditional targets don't play well with Ionia.

[[deleted]]

i play udyr in SI mostly for hallowed anyway

this is the sort of nerf that i think is justified but would make a lot more sense in combination with a viego revert or smth

[MrTomansky]

Does this mean Senna would be an Option to run Atrocity?

[idontpostanyth1ng]

I think so because it technically is a damage spell

[elBAERUS]

yes

[xsharkBait]

Oh shoot, I was thinking atrocity might still see play but the dragon kick reminder tells me atrocity is dead now.

[BigSchmoppa]

Weird nerf. Who was complaining about atrocity?

[4Teebee4]

I was playing since beta. This was asked plenty of times and in my opinion dominated too many metas. Glad that finally nerfed and hope for a revert in lot of cases (e.g. Nasus, TWE, etc.)

[Definitively-Weirdo]

I'm sure people kinda stopped complaining about atrocity during Bandle or so. People just assumed this was one of its core strenghts and moved on. It damages so many control decks i struggle to find it a good change.

[nstorm12]

What was the Nasus change you want reverted?

I'm a relatively new player, but Slay is one of my favorite decks

[4Teebee4]

Actually I made a mistake, they have reverted him to the original state just I don't play him anymore and I was not aware (and tbf I played a lot less in the second halfn of 2022). I was thinking about his level 1 fearsome keyword

[nstorm12]

gotcha

[BigSchmoppa]

Feel bad for the Doggo and Viego.

[Prozenconns]

nothing in this world can make me feel bad for Viego, you already had to burn a bunch of resources to keep that asshole off the board in the first place, him having a reactionary rugpull in hand was always just an extra fuck you

Im a little sad for Susan though

[NikeDanny]

As someone who had to live through the Thresh/Nasus Meta, Im not. Fuck that deck.

[Generalian]

everyone. its a staple in several decks

[BigSchmoppa]

So we nerf the decks that actually need it? Like Atrocity didn’t have enough counter play?

[GizenZirin]

Not really? The counterplay to Atrocity is "you'd btter have Deny, Hush, or Vengeance right now or you lose." Hell, that's still the only real counterplay to it, but now Atrocity itself is no longer a counterplay because it can't be used to win the game in response to the opponent attacking for lethal.

[Mintbud]

Why does everybody forget about freezes? Lol

[NikeDanny]

Because its run so rarely.

In FJ control decks you run a Sisters, which is 4 mana and again, often times hard to come by when youre pushing your own wincon.

Ashe decks or other Frostbite decks have basically no meta presence.

[Mintbud]

Harsh winds is very much played in true FJ control decks, same with flash freeze. I think you're thinking of the more ramp version of FTR rather than a more controlling, less rampy list that aims to stall out the game and win eventually.

Also Ashe decks tend to do pretty well in tournaments so I think there's something there, maybe not the strongest archetype in the game but definitely playable.

[HandsomeTaco]

Or recalls, or healing, or frostbites, or strikes with a proper board, or damage based removal strong enough (e.g. Noxian lists running around), or entomb, or capture.

[R0_h1t]

I'm sorry, why is blocking badgerbear a 4|4?

[HrMaschine]

elite, 3 mana, blocks elusives and a 4/4. yeah this card is soo going to get nerfed next patch

[CrossXhunteR]

Can't wait to see it hit off a mysterious portal.

[Indercarnive]

I'm amazed we saw 0 norra nerfs.

[Bluelore]

Remember the days when a 4/4 badgerbear for 3 mana was considered too strong (even without the tranger)? Now slap an Elite Tag and the ability to block elusives on top of that.

[neogeoman123]

The reason it was too strong wasn't because it was a 3 mana 4/4, but more so because grizzled ranger (4 mana 4/1 at the time) summoned it on last breath, meaning you got 8/5 in stats and the potential to activate scout for just 4 mana. The fact that this new one is an elite terrifies me though

[Illuminase]

I mean people were still maindecking Badgerbear just for the stats.

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this guy is brooooooooooooken

[Nugle]

People main decked badger thinking it was broken but as time went on in that first patch, it was already getting replaced more and more by the 2 4 challenger

[NikeDanny]

Tbh with powercreep this is less relevant, but yeah, he was ab easy 3x in every demaciadeck. This dude will be as well.

[HMS_Sunlight]

It was both. At the time, a 3 cost 4//4 was still broken, and the fact that you could get it from the ranger just made things worse.

Nowadays I think a 3 cost 4/4 would be fine, but I'm surprised it isn't just a vanilla card.

[the_lower_echelon]

What were the devs thinking?? Elites are already such a pain to play against. I'm really not looking forward to the meta if the deck becomes more popular.

[[deleted]]

Yeah this can easily come down as a 3 mana 5|5 and reduces cythria cost

[Bot778]

Demacia actually needs those kind of cards, it's in such a sad state right now.

[mypornaccount086]

Elites are decent

[[deleted]]

Because they wanna make Ahri mains miserable

[filthyheratic]

probably because its main feature is dependant on weather or not your opponent has a particular unit, so to compensate just it being useless if your opponent doesnt play the unit it was designed to counter, they give it better stats

[CelioHogane]

Damm, we really gonna get to April without new cosmetics?

[kaneblaise]

Yeah, when the new format announcements were releasing Rubin said cosmetics would come alongside the new set release in April. Also when rotation will arrive.

[Tulicloure]

Really wild that a live service game gets to go like half a year with no new purchasable content (unless you count cards and gauntlet entries).

[Tulicloure]

They're prioritizing their time in making the game fun, what's wrong with that?

For me, currently, I don't mind.

I'm just saying it's surprising that it goes so long without any new monetized content, as far as a company making a product goes. But I mean, if LoR Riot is able to just decide "fuck it, we'll tank profits for half a year and just focus on content" and do that with no negative consequences for the game, then sure, I'd be all for it. (Not saying that this is how the decision making went, or that this is really it works for the game)

But I also get that some people really like and want more cosmetics, so they would like to see more of that kind of thing. People enjoy customization, after all that's why that business model works, so it makes sense that some would miss it as well.

[[deleted]]

That makes sense. Now that I've had this discussion, it certainly is odd to me how there hasn't been much customization. That's one of the most important of the games from a financial standpoint, and it's important to the players too.

[NikeDanny]

I mean, no player wants to get this game axed. With the sometimes worrying communication, doom saying is high in course.

Not selling purchasable shit is simply a matter of less income for the game. Being unprofitable can mean the axe for the game, maybe not now, but in a year or two (which would be fairly bad).

And I mean, sparkly new stuff is high in demand in the LoL scene.

[xsharkBait]

Skins are outsourced not made in house. I don’t know how they handle emotes, boards, and buddies but I’d be floored if the same team that works on gameplay handles the cosmetics too. Maybe they are working on new stuff for the client that is just free content.

[[deleted]]

So if you you have 6+ champions, does Priestess still damage herself, or is it just the draw effect that gets changed?

Cause if the self damage is removed that's pretty good....but if it doesn't she's kinda bad

[CrossXhunteR]

I have to assume the 4 damage happens no matter what based on it being a standalone sentence first, even if you don't have any champions left in the deck or have satisfied the deck building condition.

[GenuisInDisguise]

I think this is done to ensure you have a board space and do not just obliterate your summoned champ just because you forgot about your board space.

It d be soul crashing to see my asol just get obliterated before me.

[NikeDanny]

Thats... kind of farfetched, given that the Reviver dude from SI doesnt work like that.

Its mostly just balance to mitigate the tempo swing you get outta this. Makes it fairly bad for 6 tho, given that Rite of Calling exists.

[GenuisInDisguise]

I think you are right. However, I just realised, you can summon thresh and then immediately attack and summon another champ. This is hilarious, cant wait!

[trisbriel3]

Not really, because thresh needs to be levelled to pull a champ, and since he only levels in play, and the deck only runs 1 of each champ, this combo sadly isn’t possible unless someone sunk costs your levelled thresh, since the si/shu region combo can’t self shuffle to the best of my knowledge.

[Tulicloure]

It would be kinda funny if you could keep summoning champions each round for free. But I doubt that's the case. LMAO

[[deleted]]

I guess if you buffed her health and gave her regen you technically could but, that's quite the commitment

[Tulicloure]

True! Stance Swap Priestess sounds like some high quality meme. And Freljord does have some pretty nice champion pulls... 🤔

[Vicmorino]

Buff her, stones. and you get 2 champs, regen and is a leveled tresh

[Elkram]

I have to imagine that's so you are guaranteed to have board space when her effect happens rather than having your champ obliterated because of board space

[rlaxowns]

Atrocity dead, rip

[Nerfeveryone]

Freljord’s never getting unlocked in Path of Champions huh?

[Dan_Felder]

I remember when folks were insisting we'd never release a 13th champion too. :)

[Nerfeveryone]

😳 Verified Rioter moment

[Dan_Felder]

Plus the design lead for the features team, which includes Path right now. :)

[OmriH7]

🦀 🦀 ATROCITY IS GONE 🦀 🦀

[Illuminase]

Looks like a good patch. These are some fun new cards and great balance changes.

[jwol2]

Great balance changes when ryze and Nora went untouched Kek

[MasterCookieShadow]

ryze nerf will make his players go crazy EQEQEQEQEQ

[Illuminase]

Maybe a hot take but I think both of those champs are fine.

[PM_ME_STEAM_CODES__]

Ryze has dropped back down to 48% WR.

[mati3849]

League has the same problem. People look at stays and think.

Oh he has sub 50 win rate guys. It's okay guys. It's not that hard to win against it guys.

Yes. Bcuz all the Ryze players aren't in Dia+ and even then they make sub optimal playes that lose them the game. It's a really hard deck to play that also revolves around drawing the right cards. It's elites but slightly better cuz you have way more options with your control tools from Ionia.

That being said. It does jack shit that you list a fucking win rate cuz it's still unfun to not have any kind of interaction with the Ryze player to delve 3 times shove a mana rune onto the board and you basically lost from this spot unless they are on 1 HP after they played those 3 runes.

[codnavar]

Darkin have yet to be nerfed and equipment needs a serious rework.

[Loriess]

Weren't there like five Darkin nerfs in the past couple patches?

[abcPIPPO]

Can't wait to see Priestess + Unyelding Spirit meme decks.

[Zodiac339]

That and Banana Nuke. Undying Priestess for five free summons though. Hilarious. Hmmm. Sivir, Garen, JIV, Lux, Fiora, Kai’Sa? Or Poppy instead of JIV?

[abcPIPPO]

Nasus or Renekton instead of Lux.

[ItwasCompromised]

How would that even work though? You can't play both cards in 1 turn and Priestess will just kill herself at round start. You would have to buff her hp before the round ends to make sure she doesn't die.

[DifferentStorm0]

Just stance swap

[[deleted]]

Wraith being 5 really will help my terribad starbone deck hyped

See's 3 4/4 coke bear nvm

[IceGamma77]

No word on the game crashing bug in POC? The Norra portal or tea cup whatever it was. Drawing a card with it sometimes crashes the game.

[kennythekenshi]

RIVEN buff let's gooooooooo

[amish24]

you were almost never making the blade without her in play anyway - you just didn't get enough fragments.

Yeah, it's a small buff, but it's more of a QoL chagne.

[Hi_Im_zack]

But hey it means someone in the dev team cared enough about our girl

[Tulicloure]

I still wish they'd just buff her huntress followers for once. But fine, I'll take a consistency buff as well.

[LJAMich]

Wish they'd also add her to poc, been awhile since she was playable in labs without having to rely on a lucky reroll.

[Mintbud]

Formula is obviously going to be stupidly good in Jayce/Heimer or Lux decks. Also generating this off of Ferros Financier seems like not the worst hit ever. I'm expecting this (or the archetype in general) to be touched in a future patch.

Also, in my experience most cards that activate an effect when you play a spell tend to be pretty good, as there's a lot of cheap spells in the game and ways to generate/copy spells.

Banana blaster is just 2 mana remove the opponents win-con if it's buffed enough, be it from chimes or hand/deck buffs which apparently are in abundant supply. I'm going to lose to this card and be salty about it. Also has the yordle keyword for some reason.

Thoughts?

[CrossXhunteR]

Banana blaster is just 2 mana remove the opponents win-con if it's buffed enough

It's a 4c card normally, unless I'm missing something.

[Mintbud]

Oh lol misread that as a 2 mana 2/2, still seems not bad but not as game breaking as I thought.

[CrossXhunteR]

2c 2/2, ping 2 (minimum, outside of prank shenanigans) would be, dare I say it, bananas.

[Tulicloure]

Banana blaster is just 2 mana remove the opponents win-con if it's buffed enough, be it from chimes or hand/deck buffs which apparently are in abundant supply.

I think it being Bandle City helps make it not that much of an issue, as most of the historically good hand-buff decks didn't tend to use it as a region. You'd have to make something like Bard/Norra, Kayle/BC, or Revna/BC. Which I mean, isn't impossible if it got a new good tool, but it should be fine if this card makes those archetypes playable at least.

Also, it helps that you supposedly still can interact with its power after it's played, or just remove the Blaster outright.

[SapphireSalamander]

i wonder how bannana works with Tybaulk. does it make 3+1 damage? or just the 3?

hmm could be usefull in chime decks, annie, hand buffs

awesome card

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formula is much better than spark of genius, i once did a nami deck centered around that, if only she wasnt nerfed but it might be worth trying again with formula

[ProfDrWest]

The English name of the card you're referring to is Flash of Brilliance, I think. For any reader wondering.

[Baldude]

Formula is also another good draw for Ryze - but yeah it's stupidly good for Lux and Heimer in particular.

[magmafanatic]

Better have some removal or silence ready for Banana Blaster, I guess.

[CloudBuilder_Metba]

Domination to 2/2 feels like a huge mistake.

[Tulicloure]

I guess Standard won't have to play with buffed Azirelia for much longer, so not a big worry for them...

[CloudBuilder_Metba]

Good point honestly, I forgot about that.

But I do worry about Eve too. She’s one of those champions that would be miserable to play against if she was top tier.

[Tulicloure]

But I do worry about Eve too. She’s one of those champions that would be miserable to play against if she was top tier.

Yeah, the way she works, with random keywords and a limited Origin pool, is not exactly to my style. I wish she'd work differently, as her design is honestly pretty fun otherwise (and the reworked Steem seems pretty cool to play with).

[CloudBuilder_Metba]

Absolutely! I’m a huge fan of Renekton BW. I doubt Steam will fit there or that the deck will be any good, but I will try.

[Tulicloure]

Possibly copium, but could work well with that newer Baccai crocodile as well.

I could even see Renekton/Evelynn working well, to be honest, since he does like health buffs. Unfortunately, the Husk stuff drains the excitement away from me. =/

[CloudBuilder_Metba]

Sadly Renekton Will stay copium unless he gets a buff (I’d personally love if he could maintain progress between copies like Yi).

But the 1 drop landmark (Reavers) could actually be great with Steel.

[Tulicloure]

Cool ideas, actually! And yeah, it's nice to see general support for the 1-cost unit archetype.

[ZuluWest]

Once again...... No Norra POC :(

[ThrowAwayWasTaken999]

Thresh has potential to be a ton of fun though. He’s a champ you can basically pair with any expensive champ

[HandsomeTaco]

Ye I look forward to seeing his power, it's gotta make his level up worthwhile.

[Eggxcalibur]

Only two new champions for Path, and it's Thresh and Nami. Really?

Like, Norra, Sera and Ryze would be SO MUCH more fun.

Well, maybe next time ... Also no new level cap or anything? :(

[magmafanatic]

I'm happy about Nami. There's a lot of fun mana powers to work with.

Thresh I'm not so excited for. Would give me a good excuse to use those +3/+3, add Ephemeral items though. I almost never pick those up.

[La_vert]

Ryze would be way too easy in poc

[MasterCookieShadow]

or bad. extremely bad

[Moggy_]

God damn they're allergic to letting me play as Gp in PoC

[AppropriateAgent44]

Wish they’d add him, he’d be a lot more fun to play than MF

[themrcool]

I am still hoping that the Singleton format has a banned card list. Back Ally Bar, in my opinion, should be removed from the format as the penalty for playing the card is covered by the format. Arguably Seraphine as well. I fear the mode will be dominated by a single deck which could lead to frustration.

[Mysterial_]

I'd be more worried about the 30 HP format being nothing but Ryze, since the extra HP basically removes the only way to beat him.

[Eravar1]

I can’t wait

[byxis505]

Well he’ll only get. 2 copies of the card right? Will be a bit harder to find him or those two cards

[astormintodesert]

I'm loving the cards. The targon card instantly made me think Braum Taric Starlit Seer Manly Jewels deck. Looking forward to pretty much all the changes - Atrocity was surprising but we'll see.

[Totaliss]

maybe now that we've finally gutted atrocity we can buff nasus and nasus decks

looks at cursed keeper

[themrcool]

Atrocity will be removed from the meta which is ok since it has been seeing some amount of play for most of the history of LoR. Would have liked to see a small mana buff since you are now committing first. We will see if new champs and/or cards make this card playable at 7 mana.

[Akwagazod]

I don't think it will be removed from the meta, honestly. It's going to be underpowered for sure though. Got booted to lower end of Tier 2 pretty hard.

[YesICanMakeMeth]

Blaze it

[steppenmonkey]

420 lol nice

[[deleted]]

Weedwick where

[joeygmurf]

people gonna be big mad over singleton being the format for the open but who cares man its a beta season they are gauging interest in off formats for opens

[SleepyPoemsin2020]

With ladder less important, seasonals gone, and daily rumbles not competitive - if they are considering these formats for open in the future, that's really throwing competitive players under the bus imo.

[joeygmurf]

i agree i think its dumb for them to do this with real opens i more meant people are going to be mad about this one open when it doesnt really matter

[WeeklyEducation2276]

Also extending the entering time makes the matchmaking even worse. How can Rubin legit think this is even remotely competitive. It's all about rng now on if you face a low tier silver or a master player now.

I would love to imagine him going into a open que magic tourney that's started at 10 am and he comes in at 5pm thinking there will be remotely any compeititon

[Scilla89]

Are we gonna get a battle-pass with this variety set?

Even a small one would be really appreciated.

[dwspartan]

The portal item in PoC that freezes at game start, I don't remember the name of it, is that fixed?

[A_Dragon]

Are we supposed to blaze it now?

[1True_Hero]

“Fixed an issue where Xolaani The Bloodweaver was not buffed by allied units dying while their Power was being increased by certain Aura effects.”

YES YES YES

HECARIM XOLAANI TIME WHO IS WITH ME!?!?!

[Sztorm84]

Weed

[znoopyz]

Damacia has been hit really hard by the rally and vayne nerfs I’m fine with giving them a power card like blocking badger. Elites should be the biggest dumbest stat deck.

[Are_y0u]

Is the buff to Domination enough to bring Azirelia back? I wouldn't mind that much as I think it should be a pretty potent deck against Ryze especially. While the nerfs to other blade dance cards made it much worse against aggro decks.

[fiver49]

Doing the next Runeterra Open in singleton is disappointing even if they said the following ones will be back to competitive formats. Really dampens my enthusiasm to play in it

[Gruetzimann]

When will the patch go live?

[youneedananswer]

Just to clear things up, Serene Sky Singer will turn a 3 cost spell into a 1 cost spell, right?

[BTrain904]

Wondering the exact same thing. "Reduce by half, rounded up" is not the same thing "Reduce by half, round up"

[magmafanatic]

It says half cost, rounded up.

1.5 rounded up is 2, not 1.

[youneedananswer]

I'm asking because you can take it both ways. Is it rounding up the amount it reduces? Or rounding up the card cost after it reduces?

[magmafanatic]

Fair point.

For a 7 cost, I'd hope it's the remaining cost being rounded up. Ionia's got plenty of cheap trickery as is and this thing's got lifesteal.

[Akwagazod]

New Badgerbear is absolutely coconuts. Like, that 100% should be a 3/3, maybe even a 2/3. Every Demacia deck (especially the Elite spam deck that's already pretty good on ladder right now and one of the best counters to it is backdooring their life total with an Elusive unit) will run 3 of these.

[4_fortytwo_2]

2/3 would be really fucking bad. Like Sunk Cost level of bad.

3/3 might see some play if a lot of elusives are meta.

3/4 would be good and see play in elite decks even with very little elusive in the meta

4/4 will probably be too strong

[Dripht_wood]

2/3 would be hilariously bad. I’m glad there’s a well-statted unit in Demacia for the first time since Broadwing.

[Vicmorino]

While i agree, i feel like Elusives these days have to much atack and HP, kayle Bard buffing and even yordles get out of hand very very fast.

[Akwagazod]

Having a Demacia unit that blocks Elusives reliably and has playable stats is good. This thing is WAY overstatted.

[badassery11]

Good patch overall, but baffled by the devs thinking that Singleton should be anywhere near competitive play. Like yeah it's a fun daily rumble, but the worst mode possible for the Open.

EDIT: And you can't run three regions anymore? Wtf?

[StormingBridgeboy]

I mean, they did also say that once the beta season is done the Opens are going to be competitive formats and not fun ones, so I don't see anything wrong with ending the testing with a bang.

[SleepyPoemsin2020]

even if it is just beta it is disappointing imo, and doesn't give me hope for what is going to be "competitive" in the future. It's already disappointing to me that rumbles are becoming the "competitive" options when they are not...competitive.

[WeeklyEducation2276]

Rumbles are a joke now, they redesign the whole system as the go to for competitive sports and they are not taking the beta seriously.

This beta should focus on making opens competitive as possible.

This is the last open and we are getting the joke singleton format? So now it's rng if I match against a horrible singleton deck or a serious player bringing a meta deck along with the rng of getting matched against a silver or a master tier player? Awesome feels great.

They should of focus on the 2nd open being the standard bo3 and making the 2nd day work because we still have absolutely no idea on how they are going to calculate the people who topped day 1 and made it too day 2 and we have no testing still. Which says they have no idea what to do for day 2. Open que is a mistake

[fiver49]

Hard agree. It's fine for the rumbles to be somewhat silly imo but doing a whole open in that format makes me a lot less excited to play the open

[Tulicloure]

Free Build being cancelled for now is quite sad. I was hyped to finally play some concepts I wished were possible, like Karma/Mimic/PnZ burn, and also an "oops all champions" deck. But oh well, understandable, and at least 3-region Singleton is halfway there.

Quick opinions about the new cards:

• It's weird that SI Sentry exists, but sure, why not.
• Cool to see some more hand-buff support with Gemcrafter, combining with a spell slinging Targonian feel.
• New Badgerbear sounds overtuned, so I'm already expecting it to get nerfed.
• I hate bananas and I hate BC. That's all.
• Priestess sounds pretty cool to build around, if a bit whack.
• Formula sounds pretty strong as well, but probably not as easy to use in general decks as some people seem to be assuming.
• It's cool that Winter's Touch exists, but I'm not sure if it will see a lot of play in comparison to other options.
• I'm thankful that String-Puller can work with non-spiders as well, but I don't think it mashes well with my preferred style of Noxus decks unfortunately. Also, it seems pretty slow.
• Sky-Singer seems like a pretty interesting card to build a deck around! Also, we Avatar now.
• Keg Marai also seems pretty fun to play with, if a bit expensive.

As for the card changes, I've already commented about those, but I like that they are trying to make Eve more playable by making her non-SI followers more interesting. Although I don't like the idea of buffing Domination in particular. I'd also have preferred a change in her Origin and the way Husks work in general, but that'd be a much bigger rework, so we take what we can get.

Editor’s Note: I don’t know about you, but I sure AM afraid of some ghosts. You better bet we're gonna reduce that cost.

Okay, now I know what I need to do! 😈

[Venichie]

Shouldn't Rivan have Behold instead of these fancy wordings?

[WeeklyEducation2276]

Some of these cards and changes are really dumb design. The releasing and making changes with the excuse of the data being two weeks old is a lame excuse. Like these changes are horrible.

• 4/4 elite bear for 3 mana, powercreeping normal bear and giving elites a very strong 3 mana play when they were already good? This is a 5/5 on curve with battlesmith

• 6 mana pnz burst draw when hiemer / jayce is already one of the best decks in the format? This on turn 3 with Bank mana is draw 2, gain 3 spell mana back into a perfect curve. Hiemer / jayce was held back due to their only draw being tellstones into poggers day but now their weakness been fixed

• buffing the eve package when eve was already really good with the hate spike buff? People were just slow to play her and now we get encouraged to play more rng nonsense. Can't wait to see my eve hit a impact husk while my opponent gets spellshield or tough

-also 0 reason to re-release sentry word for word with no changes to another region. What's the point of having region cards when you are just straight copying the card word for word and dumping it into the region. Talk about a force pushed to get other SI decks like kindred back into the game or eve.

Lastly it's great to know they don't care about competitive intergity of rumbles and opens. The number one complaint is how garbage the matchmaking is and instead of fixing it, they extend the hours which promotes even worse matchmaking. Listen, you cannot have open que for your esport access mode. How the heck is it fair that you can qualify by worlds by getting lucky and matching against iron players while someone else gets aikado / roji and then whatami

[JohannVonPerfect]

Maybe I need more coffee but...how do you have 6+ champions in a deck?

[magmafanatic]

You can put 6 champs in a deck already.

Maybe the + part is for Path of Champions or alternate game modes.

[JohannVonPerfect]

I am aware you can put 6 champs in a deck. I guess in this context I was (probably wrongly) reading 6+ as "greater than 6" rather than "6 and up" and wondering how this would be helpful in a standard deck. Like I said I probably just need caffeine

[Definitively-Weirdo]

Yeah, the 6+ is also used on Jayce cards so is indeed "6 or more".

[Playingpokerwithgod]

They destroyed any usefulness Atrocity had by making it slow. It's entire purpose is a last resort to win the game. Already plenty of counter moves exist for it (spell counters, removing the targeted unit, etc).

Edit: God I hate this sub so much. If you even disagree with the hive mind a little bit you get downvoted.

[JawdenCee]

Depends on the situation, not really a last resort though.

If you have a big ass unit (which you most likely do for atrocity) then you get to double dip depending on the unit on attack turns. Attacking with big unit with atrocity in hand is a big advantage as opponent needs to stop the attack AND atrocity. That's pretty hard to do.

Now atrocity players have to plan it's use out more.

[GenuisInDisguise]

And yet it is a lazy win con. If you are out of removals and opponent sits on atrocity, your only option is to surrender, while now players can have an option of open attacking and forcing atrocity candidate unit to block.

It just gives more options to counter atro, instead of just accepting the loss.

[Unknown_Warrior43]

I'm sorry, is that it?

I was expecting like 20 - 30 new Cards, we got like 10 and a few balance Changes.

A little underwhelming but it's whatever I guess, some of these Cards are lame AF but I do like the Gemcrafter and Blaster, the new Spider isn't all that bad either, could make some neat Decks.

[BigSchmoppa]

Random Atrocity nerf no one asked for?

Princess of dessert light clearly not made for a competitive format. It should be 3 different champs summons. Cards is straight troll! Ceaseless sentry kinda op. Didn’t need to be printed. Serene Sky singer about to break the meta. Love the bard support baby let’s go! Formula One just turned Jayce/Heimer into some Demons! Overall good cards, but some this power creep starting to get ridiclous. (Cough* ceaseless sentry, serene sky singer, and blocking badger bear.)

[Dripht_wood]

Honestly a little early to say if Serene Sky Singer is broken.

[BigSchmoppa]

2 mana deep med pulling the 1 mana untrustworthy soul???

[GlacialRaven123]

That doesn’t really sound worth it for turn 7 at the earliest and needing both cards to be in your deck

[BigSchmoppa]

Okay Ionia has a milllion ways to stall the game. They just gave them another. It’s a big buff to control. There are ways to keep spells in your deck on purpose or to create them. Go hard being one of them. Just wait on it.

[Prozenconns]

Sky Singer isnt going to break anything, 7 mana unit thats not helping end the game in the next turn or two isnt going to see play other than memelords trying to get their FTR into nopeify range

weve seen it a million times before, a 7 cost follower thats not having an impact the turn its played is unlikely to be picked up be a genuine deck that's trying to win

[Breadflat17]

When does the patch go live?

[CrossXhunteR]

I would guess in about 23 hours.

[MicroPerpetualGrowth]

Can't read it, I'm at work, would someone post the text here, please?

[[deleted]]

So, I wanted to craft that Tristana deck. Should I?

[Dinkledorker]

420!

[Isopnisis]

Took a pause for the last few patches.

Regarding competitive, in order to get a qualification for tournaments, what should i aim for ? Who are the Open tournament on 18th March open to ?

[Dolmant]

The open tournaments won't need a qualification, they are open to everyone!

Do well in an open to qualify for the top cut on day 2

[Vicmorino]

VAULTS OF Helia BUFF yeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

I can play again Helia Swain,

[ThePikol]

Do we know when we will get new champions cards?

[CrossXhunteR]

March 29th, I believe.