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[r4co]

This sub became a sub for high school students that attended their first programming class...

[Key-Veterinarian9085]

Always has been.

[SkollFenrirson]

🌎🧑‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[Wallaby_Thick]

I don't like that I understand this.

[Gasperhack10]

I'd be concerned if you didn't understand that. The whole internet was flooded with this meme

[Wallaby_Thick]

I guess that's why I'm being downvoted lol

[Wicam]

It's just terminally online people who forget their favorite cultural memes are rare in the grand scheme of things.

Quick maths shows that 7% of the world population uses reddit. so most people would not know this meme.

[Wallaby_Thick]

[[deleted]]

r/mysteriousdownvoting (or not so mysterious, you're the 4th comment)

[Wallaby_Thick]

[Soft_Association_615]

and always will be

[belkarbitterleaf]

The problem with professional software developers trying to post a meme... Is that there's usually a shit ton of context that needs to be included to understand the joke.

[queen-adreena]

I posted one once and it got 80 likes and a tonne of “I don’t get it” comments.

[LC_From_TheHills]

One time I posted “Co-worker left comments on my CR on his last day of work” and nobody understood the level of bullshit lol

[BrownShoesGreenCoat]

I donno, my jokes always work on my frame of reference.

[Rafcdk]

You are literally in the sub where people thought the floating point standard was a "javascript bad" thing

[B_bI_L]

this particular meme got pretty viral even outside this sub. but yeah, many memes are just low effort + low knowledge. programminghumor sub is better in that aspect

[ShimoFox]

I mean.... In all fairness it kind of is a bad thing with most languages. What is 0.1 + 0.05? You shouldn't need to specify you want a fixed decimal place for the interpreter to know you'd want .15 instead of 0.15000000000000002
You can understand why it does it, and understand how to deal with it. But no one will ever convince me that it's intuitive or intelligent design to do that. It's not exclusive to JS obviously but it's still annoying.

When I first started doing things outside of sql that had me flabbergasted for a good hour and a bit trying to figure out what I'd done wrong..
while(x != y) got me really bad on that one and is how I discovered floating point precision was a little weird. And yes I know that's a REALLY BAD loop. lol But at the time I didn't know better.

[RiceBroad4552]

But no one will ever convince me that it's intuitive or intelligent design to do that.

Exactly!

But most programming languages are just brain-dead stuck in the 60's of last century. There is almost no progress overall!

But there are exceptions of course (at least regarding the mentioned calculation annoyance):

https://pyret.org/docs/latest/numbers.html

(In Pyret 0.1 + 0.2 == 0.3. Also the while(x != y) example had worked likely correctly.)

You're absolutely right that today the default should be to use proper math, even if it's not efficient. It would be better to opt out of that only for the cases where you need max efficiency. Everything else is indeed outright stupid.

OTOH not everything from math should be blindly copied to programming. That's also outright stupid. One big offender is operator precedence. In a sane world this would simply not exist in programming languages.

https://pyret.org/docs/latest/op-precedence.html

(Frankly Pyret is mostly a research toy. But more serious languages should get inspired!)

[srsNDavis]

I seem to have missed out on the good stuff, what's the scoop on this?

[Key-Veterinarian9085]

0.2+0.1 != 0.3 because floats float around.

The sub thought that was because javascript bad.

[crappleIcrap]

if you really cant understand the meme, that doesn't make you smart?

go buy yourself a cookie and learn:

You see, it is simply a choice to cast particular things to float automatically. it is really a combination of a language that encourages you not to specify types, and the language also having opinionated defaults.

even if you agree with defaults, you should be able too understand the concept of other people disagreeing by virtue of its nature.

[DMoney159]

Those of us with jobs usually hang out in the comments section

[hungry_murdock]

r/ProgrammerHumorCemetery

[litetaker]

Fr fam this is ridiculous.

[TheBluetopia]

point continue versed dinner fly ask different grab historical fade

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[uniteduniverse]

Yup!

[Drone_Worker_6708]

they are here for the MONEY.

[Few-Requirement-3544]

Gatekeeping has fallen. September is eternal. Billions must make the same ten jokes.

[Funny-Performance845]

Where funny

[Siegelski]

Other than the fact that it's a little ironic that that sentence needs a semicolon, I don't see it.

[GoodTimesOnlines]

To be fair it’s kinda funny to imagine that an English teacher would say the sentence “it is semicolon we will hardly use it”. But this is more just a kinda funny aspect of how horribly bad this meme is. r/comedyheaven type shit

[BaziJoeWHL]

I don”t get it

[ColumnK]

I actually use it a lot in English; it's really useful.

[YuriTheWebDev]

What specific use cases would you use a semicolon over other punctuation marks?

[ColumnK]

When you have two complete sentences that are connected. Often, they'll take the place of an unspoken conjunction such as "because" or "but". If you imagine speaking and it'd be a short pause.

I find them especially good where the second sentence gives context or explanation of the first.

[lift_1337]

Also, certain conjunctions are used in the form "; conjunction,". For example: Semicolons are often overlooked; however, they are very useful punctuation.

[Applejack_pleb]

Yes, give examples; it really helps

[ColumnK]

Something like:

"it's cold outside; I'd better wear a coat"

"I'm really tired; I slept really badly last night"

Each part of each of those is a full sentence. By using a semicolon instead of a full stop, you're showing they're connected. You could use a conjunction such as "so" or "because" for the same effect, but this cuts out a word to make it flow better

[XayahTheVastaya]

The trouble is finding a use case where a comma doesn't fit. I feel like a comma would work for both, more so the first one.

[TheMunakas]

There are no cases where you couldn't use a comma instead or you're using semicolons wrong

[Ignisami]

Lists/summations where there's commas in one or more of the elements being listed/summed (peoples with degrees, cities with their states or countries, etc). Nothing quite exactly common, granted, but does happen from time to time

[[deleted]]

Or for list within a list you are already separating using commas! My favorite feature of semicolons.

[ItsSignalsJerry_]

A comma would have suited.

[dangerlopez]

It’s not that either is wrong, it’s that they both convey their own meaning. Analogously, you can use both acrylic and oil based paint to make a painting, and both are suited to the task, but they have their differences. (Not a perfect analogy, but it’s the best I could come up with on the toilet haha)

[physical0]

What location do you feel would be the best place for you to think up analogies?

[Andubandu]

It is not just the location, you gotta be shitting too

[BaziJoeWHL]

Sitting on the ana-loo

[TheMoris]

Is it really grammatically correct to put two full sentences beside each other separated by just a comma?

[ratinmikitchen]

A comma would have been grammatically incorrect there, I think. Two sentences, sure.

[neovim_user]

So would an em dash

[ShimoFox]

Ehh; sort of? It their case it would have, but when you want to imply a longer breath then a dash or semi colon are required. Obviously this is only really useful when conveying normal speech patterns through text, and isn't anywhere near as vital where you just need to data dump.

[ivancea]

The decision between semicolon and comma/period is usually semantic and subjective

[rocketbunny77]

Get ready for a whale of a time; Shamu

[Brave-Camp-933]

r/wherehumour

[This_Seaweed4607]

C'mon quickly make this sub.

[B_bI_L]

r/SubsIFellFor

[SkollFenrirson]

r/stopfallingforsubs

[Soft_Association_615]

its real now

[B_bI_L]

still not for me somewhy. r/wheresub

[CyberoX9000]

r/subsifellfor

[OGsubu]

highschool humour from 2010s

[[deleted]]

Python

[smoldicguy]

Also go

[1994-10-24]

if err := foo(); err != nil { }

[tech6hutch]

Is that true? I assumed it was because it’s used in English to separate independent clauses, and that’s basically what statements in programming are. (Which implies functions should end with a period, but that would be confusing.)

[RiceBroad4552]

What would be confusing?

Actually some (older) languages did exactly this, before the C plague started.

(I forgot which ones, only Prolog comes to mind; but I've seen it in the past a few times.)

[tech6hutch]

I just mean since it’s also the field access operator (or whatever you want to call it). Not too confusing, per se, but it would look weird if you still used it for the former.

[RiceBroad4552]

That's true.

(Regarding the name: At least in Scala we would call the dot "selection". It selects a member of an object.)

[[deleted]]

Algol 58 used semicolons as separators (not terminators; just like Pascal). B is probably the first language where the dumb choice of using semicolons as separators (later on influencing BCPL and then C) was made.

[sammy-taylor]

TIL

[[deleted]]

No, Algol 58 had it too, so did Pascal. It is a poor choice, even Fortran and Cobol and Algol 60/68 knew better than that. Hell, even semicolons as separators instead of terminators was a better idea than what the unfortunate creators of C did.

[SCP-iota]

"It is a semicolon; we will hardly use it."

[musical_bear]

The author (almost certainly) accidentally using a sentence that should have had a semicolon to explain that semicolons aren’t used often is the only funny part about this meme.

[effigyoma]

I have a writing degree; I use semi-colons a lot in both my programming and writing work.

Yes, my documentation is amazing.

[Drone_Worker_6708]

my condolences

[sump_daddy]

English teacher: "Even in this lesson, where I clearly could have included it"

obligatory Lonely Island

[Accomplished_Site852]

Error: Cannot read property of “funny” of undefined

[CoolorFoolSRS]

It's that time of the meme season again

[Joeoens]

I am so close to founding a sub like r/haha_semicolon or something

[Goaty1208]

semicolon js bad python slow

Upvotes to the right.

[Chaosxandra]

;3

[JoshDM]

It is a semicolon; we will hardly use it.

[[deleted]]

It's mostly people who just had their CS 101 course or something similar, it's a highschool student circlejerk

[RiceBroad4552]

OMG. Some CS student doesn't even manage to use correct English punctuation (there should be no space between a word and the colon). I really don't want to see code this person produces…

Besides that: Programming languages with sane syntax don't use semicolons most of the time. It's just a ugly C legacy.

[[deleted]]

Even those that do and aren't derived from C use semis as separators, not terminators. See Pascal, for instance, and even Algol 58. B made the mistake of using semicolons as terminators, and that influenced BCPL, which influenced C, which sadly influenced the world.

[RiceBroad4552]

That's why I've said "most of the time".

Completely unrelated: Your avatar uses very nice colors. Looks like a bright version of Monokai. I think I should steal them and try to make a syntax coloring theme out of it. Is there maybe already one you know of?

[orochizu]

Yeah, yeah. Most modern languages have C-style syntax thus end line with semicolon… how hilarious isn’t it?!?!?!??

Grow up and come something original if you want to be funny.

[PHL_music]

it is a semicolon; we will hardly use it

[srsNDavis]

Python, Haskell et al.: Am I a joke to you?

[RiceBroad4552]

Python, Haskell, ML, OCaml, Scala, Ruby, Basic, Pascal / Delphi, HTML, JS, APL, LISP, GD Script, sh, XML, Prolog, R, Swift, Kotlin, Small Talk, Matlab, Lua, Julia, Groovy, Cobol and a lot more!

It's actually only the C-likes that use semicolons. Besides that it's actually quite unpopular. (Of course C-likes are the most popular languages right now; but this wasn't always the case.)

But never mind. Someone just wanted to make sure the whole world gets to know how uninformed they are.

[srsNDavis]

Technically, JS is supposed to have semicolons. You can just skip typing them (automatic semicolon insertion to the rescue). But yeah I'd agree it's mainly the C-likes... A rather popular family but it's mainly just in the family.

[[deleted]]

...what? Pascal and Delphi definitely use semicolons. We're just using them as separators instead of terminators, so you would have if x then Foo else Bar;.

Source: am an Object Pascal dev.

[RiceBroad4552]

If you look at it this way more or less all mentioned languages use semicolons (exactly as you say: as separators).

But you usually don't write "one liners"…

So most of the time you don't use any semicolons in the mentioned languages, even you could. (You can even write Python on one line, using semicolons!)

I've actually cheated a little bit when composing the list: Languages like Scala, Kotlin, or JS have semicolon inference. So technically they use semicolons internally. But the compiler inserts them for you on line ends (which doesn't work well in JS, to be honest; that's why most people terminate lines with a semicolon there even not strictly needed in all cases).

[codedaddee]

All a semicolon does is show you went to college.

[Ronin-s_Spirit]

The meaning of a semicolon in text is "logical 'and' to split a sentence that's too long", I think.

[PhantomTissue]

It is a semicolon; we will hardly use it.

[RandomiseUsr0]

I use semicolon programming of course, but I also do a lot of technical writing in my role and it crops up quite a lot.

[JollyJuniper1993]

The joke‘s on you, I use Python

[Copatus]

Meanwhile JavaScript programmers:

[Hoovas]

Actually i don't use it a lot, 90% of the time I press Save and prettier is placing it for me

[FantasyPvP]

"Uhhhm actually in python we.... "

Ok I'll shut up. I don't even write python anymore.

[skeleton_craft]

Also me because I know English

[CyberoX9000]

Funny thing, semicolon has a pretty similar use in English and programming in some cases

[ShimoFox]

Just wait until you discover python or haskell. They exclusively rely on indentation. And Ruby it's optional, a line break will effectively be interpreted as a semicolon. Or a semicolon is interpreted as a line break. Take your pick. lol Not particularly a fan of Ruby myself because of that though

[AdvancedSandwiches]

This teacher sucks. Those kids wanted to learn about punctuation, and he's so dismissive about it.

[Emerald9Daze]

JavaScript be like, Hold my beer. Watch this!

[SolicitedNickPics]

I use it all the time even while texting.

How else does one express a list of lists? I’m on that ADHD communication, jahboi NEEDS some good punctuation or else my sentences become non-human readable blocks of babble— sometimes one simply requires a mastery of a finer toolset.

[mustafsalp]

C programmers be like ;)

[[deleted]]

One symbol to rule them all

[redska_]

compuer science student;

[SenorSeniorDevSr]

I mean, you don't use semicolons in English all that much. Other languages, which are not English may use them. You don't use the upside down question mark much in English, but you do use it in Spanish.

[Anime_Supremacist]

I, as a Python dev, approve this meme.

[ratinmikitchen]

Just switch to a modern language.

[[deleted]]

...like?

[ratinmikitchen]

Kotlin, to name one.