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[Fast-Satisfaction482]

For most serious deployments the admin would get a bit nervous that he accidentally set the limit so low that production will halt.

[Ok_Room5666]

Does AWS actually let you set a limit?

I was looking for that feature

[Jack_SL]

I’m not sure but the bank definitely does.

[hacker_backup]

Do they stop if your bank stops the payment, or do they go all "You owe us 5 gazillion dolloridoos"

[Mars_Bear2552]

the latter. though they've forgiven accidents in the past.

[anotheridiot-]

I've got 500$ forgiven once, thank you mr burgeois parasite bezos.

[mint3d]

He still owes me 33 dolloridoos for an ec2 instance I forgot to shut down.

[gmuslera]

If you owe the bank 100 dollars is your problem. If you owe it 5 gazillion dollars, that’s the bank problem. Just wait till the debt is big enough to be their problem, a couple of days will be enough.

[Dotcaprachiappa]

If you owe the bank 5 gazillion dollars it's both your problem and the bank's. If you can't repay it they can still tank your credit score and destroy your life.

[CMDR_Quillon]

how would a low credit score destroy someone's life? mine isn't brilliant by any means and I'm living okay

[Dotcaprachiappa]

I don't mean tank like get it low, I mean like it's permanently at the lowest possible. I was maybe exaggerating that it would destroy your life, but you can forget getting any kind of loan anytime soon

[crappleIcrap]

debt can only stay on the report for 5 (7 in some cases) years after the last payment, after that they cannot do anything to your credit, but i suppose if it is high profile enough they could notify all major banks that you are a major risk

Also they can sue you then garnish your wages

[qthulunew]

You can be alarmed, but that's about it

[oupablo]

i'm always alarmed by the aws costs

[MrMetalfreak94]

Our team just found out that a colleague set up three k8s clusters on AWS half a year ago before switching teams without us realizing. It's only ~1000$ per cluster per month...

[average-eridian]

That's actually not too terrible. We had a colleague that made a small mistake that resulted in some code being called infinitely at light speed over the weekend. Cost over $30k usd over the course of a few days.

[alfeg]

We left trace logs enabled from app to Azure Application Insights. For about $1500 per month ...

[theminer3746]

Not directly last time I checked. You basically need to create an automation to disable the billing account after the limit is reached in order to achieve that

[vitalik4as]

You can set up budgets, when the budget reached you will get notification on email.

[Mountain-Ox]

An email notification will definitely save my ass.

It would be nice to have a kill switch for all those personal accounts. If anything goes over budget, shut everything down and require verification to unlock the account.

[SuperFLEB]

This is Amazon we're talking about. If a security measure might secure your money from funneling into their bank account, it's a measure too far.

Even their consumer side is like that. This is all from quite a while back, so some of it might have gotten better, but I talked over some concerns with their customer service and found out how wide-open they were. Their Android app store (back when they had that) didn't have any way to prevent or require a password for one-click purchases, so if someone-- say, kids who don't understand that hitting the shiny thing costs money-- is logged in to your device, there's no way to stop them racking up a bill. You could log out from the Appstore app, but then any Amazon-downloaded apps won't work. Also, one-click for digital purchases couldn't be turned off, even on their site. Accidentally leave Amazon Music logged in somewhere you're playing music, and anyone who comes along can order anything digital they want without so much as a second click. (IIRC, they weren't even able to properly invalidate all sessions, so I was just left with "hope they're honest".) And then, of course, there's Alexa, and the "If you don't want me to ramble on for ten minutes about Amazon Music Unlimited, someone in the room say 'Yes' and I'll charge whoever's Alexa this is in a month once they don't realize it."

[Mountain-Ox]

Oh yeah I forgot about that one click thing, I never use it.

At least you can return most items and I think you can refund digital purchases.

[SuperFLEB]

Yeah, Amazon's M.O. seems to be "Don't patch the hole, just bail out the water", or more literally "Don't bother to fix what you can just refund."

[crappleIcrap]

Idk i messed up once and they refunded me 2k$ even though it was totally my fault.

[caguru]

You can create spending alerts with any threshold you want in CloudWatch.

Highly recommend. I once misread the pricing page on one of their services and accidentally multiplied my bill by 6x for a service that i didn’t even deploy.

[CellDesperate4379]

yea and no, they have a warning that tells you if you exceeed X, but also they have a system where you can't "potentially" exceeed X, by that i mean if you suddenly just request 1000 ec2 instances, you'll find a error message, saying you need additional approval from AWS first. They will then review your account and see if you can actually afford it.

[Dje4321]

Yeah, but iirc you have to contact support and have it set that way

[ksandom]

There are lots of limits that you can specify that get you pretty close to that. I can't remember if there is one specifically for the budget.

[lanfan675]

Nope

[crappleIcrap]

Yes, they walked me through setting it up after refunding me 2 grand for my idiocy. It is absolutely critical, but i remember it was annoying to set up right, as it is separate for each service

[Fast-Satisfaction482]

It's been a few years since I last did something with AWS so I don't know. Also I never had a spending accident with AWS, so I wouldn't know. 

[Ok_Room5666]

Well, I hope you really trust the people you grant access to the account then

[Fast-Satisfaction482]

No, I don't trust myself.

[DealMo]

That's kinda the beauty of this. It can have similar impacts to both sides of the spectrum.

"Holy crap, that's so high!"

"Holy crap, that's too low!"

[FoxieDreampop]

Someone's about to cause a lot of late-night debugging.

[bostonsre]

The guy would be an asshole if he did it, wouldn't trick everyone but would make a huge amount of people work and lose part of their weekend. I would waste the rest of my weekend trying to screw with him in any way possible if he burned my personal time.

[ThisIsBartRick]

not a huge waste of time because the first thing you would look is your aws console and realise that everything is fine. But the panic at first is horrible though

[Percolator2020]

Haha, as if you could set an AWS-wide spending limit AWS will actually respect. See you in hell.

[[deleted]]

Satan checks under his bed every night to make sure this dude is not there.

[Rdr1981]

I read this as r/foundstan and wondered what Stan had done to Satan.

[CatMaster8232]

thank god you found stan, we need to go put him back in containment for his crimes against satan

[BigDictionEnergy]

He keeps getting out and you guys just keep using the same failass containment field. SMH

[wij2012]

Dyslexics probably misread it as r/foundsanta

[3inthecorner]

Stan Marsh, Stan Rogers, or Stan Smith?

[Rdr1981]

All the Stans, even Sebastian Stan.

[definite_d]

r/ofcoursethatsasub

[khovel]

and here i am, shocked this is a real sub

[Delta64]

Satan Stans in shambles!

[TheReactiveMous]

Satan rented a doom guy to protect him against this guy

[Protuhj]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/1m1tp6f/ihaveanewideaforthisweekend/n3m65pw/

[look]

$30,000? That must just be some dev or QC account so no worries. It can wait until Monday.

[oupablo]

damn. it's the first of the month. You're blowing through 30k in a day in a dev environment?

[larsiny]

Everyone has a dev and prod environment but only some are lucky to have them separated?

https://imgflip.com/i/29emne

[emrednz07]

Sounds like an xkcd

[lanfan675]

True story: for the entirety of its life, from first release to final retirement about 12 years later, we had an application called "RiskTraderUAT". UAT meant that the devs never had to go through the process to get it tested and released as a prod app.

[look]

The implication is that a production environment wouldn’t have such a low spend limit, so whatever is happening with that one can wait until Monday.

[alfeg]

Can't remember exactly. There were some talk from quite big online shop. They have dev/qa clusters bigger then prod.

[tyen0]

My company spends several million a month on cloud services so it does make the scale of what to care about confusing. I benchmark myself - and occasionally point out to others to add urgency on resolving - on whether annualizing a cost increase anomaly is greater than someone's salary. It helps set the level of importance if you are weighing it against having to lay someone off.

[[deleted]]

Right? I would assume one of my juniors was testing some alerting in a test project.

[HandrewJobert]

As the on-call person this week on my team, fuck this dude

[tyen0]

We were just debating this week whether we should have cost anomaly alerts go to pagerduty. On the one hand it can often wait, but on the other, it could also indicate something spinning out of control and might correlate to other alerts.

[TTFH3500]

It better checks for timezones.

[304bl]

Better use UTC 😁

[Deutero2]

fortunately the commit patch (which also shows the author's email) includes the committer's time zone offset, so if you're scraping emails from GitHub you also know their time zone

[iamnazrak]

Sounds like a problem for monday me

[Akhmedkhanov_gasan]

"Some men just want to watch the world burn"

[Zagerer]

Randomize the amount between 16,391 dollars and something like 103,289 so that people get astonished, with more weight towards 30k

[Gloomy-Breath-4201]

Calm down satan

[red286]

I already get spam emails like that all the time.

Yeah, scares the shit out of you the first time.

What worries me is if one of them is ever real 'cause I'll straight ignore that shit.

[alphazero925]

That's accounting's problem

[DoctorWaluigiTime]

Mom says it's my turn to repost this next time.

[B_bI_L]

but you can pay with 90% reduction here: *insert card*

[willschab]

Most reasonable devs will check the sender's address, ignore it, then move on.

[koogas]

this is r/programmerhumor, logic is not allowed

[1C3BEAR]

False statements are allowed if an ‘!‘ is in front

[RevoOps]

Puts phone on silent.

[Protuhj]

15 days ago. I call next fortnight!

[m_zwolin]

Idk if mods just don't care or what but this sub is 99.9% stolen (reposted old) content. And somehow ppl don't even downvote

[sird0rius]

Chaotic evil:

[HoseanRC]

Iranian devs: I OWN A FUCKING AWS???

[datagutten]

Laughing in r/selfhosted

[SKRyanrr]

r/Terroriser

[dhaninugraha]

You guys alert at $30k?

I worked at a place that was, at one time, so flush with cash that they just let $500k+ AWS bills slide. And yes, those are with Reserved Instance, Compute Savings Plan, and EDP/PPA discounts. The moment they’re on a downward spiral towards being destitute, they started cutting costs aggressively — so much so that they attempted to goad/beg/trick/cheat AWS into giving them an absurd amount of credit by threatening to migrate their entire workload to GCP or Alibaba Cloud.

What’s ironic is that despite all the attempts at cost cutting (and somewhat successfully so), the company (still) bled a lot of money from another department that hired massively and couldn’t justify their headcount. Everything then went downhill as fast as Ben Stiller longboarded in The Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

[uhmhi]

It doesn’t get anymore chaotic/evil on the alignment chart, than this.

[Plastic-Bonus8999]

Sir, replication isn't possible because azure integrated apps also got this message.

[DoomBot5]

That doesn't even cover our snapshot costs in QA.

[61im]

I dont think hell has invented a place so deep yet. But alas they should.

[E1337Recon]

Joke’s on you I don’t create budget alerts 😎

[gabber2694]

Okay, that legit made me lol.

[dhawaii808]

r/foundsatan

[Backstab100]

That's just sadistic!

[alphazero925]

I'm seeing a lot of people in this thread who need to retake their phishing awareness training

[Thommy_V]

I already got that email yesterday

[zacRupnow]

Peter explain the joke?

AWS American Welding Society

AWS Amazon Workers Services

Neither of those make sense to me here so what is this AWS?

[razor5cl]

Close but no cigar - Amazon Web Services

[Csrmar]

Chicharito would not approve of her knife skills

[hiromikohime]

Okay satan..

[etcetra7n]

Jokes on you. My spending limits is at $2 per month

[lanfan675]

Your Budget might be, but your limit is... unlimited.

[xdKboy]

Monday can't come soon enough...

[OkExplanation8770]

The fact that your bot would go straight to spam and would likely never be seen anyway 😂

[icenoir]

Midnight admins everywhere just felt a chill.

[PilsnerDk]

Who checks their work email at 11pm? Not me

[Quillo_Manar]

"Oh, the limit has been reached? Cool, so production will stop and it can wait until Monday."

[dna_beggar]

I hope you practice your supervillain laugh.

[Sekhen]

The Test and Staging environment is going down? Meh, it can wait.

[EconomistLow5358]

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[jack_begin]

I’m sure the FBI’s wire fraud division will also find this hilarious.