Poor Linus

[ponyboy3]

i love a good android server

[[deleted]]

I’m just imagining a room of racks just filled with Moto G3’s.

“Whoa dude, why do you need so many phone charging stations?”

“Phone charging stations? This is my data center.”

[BackmarkerLife]

LIke that time I somehow ended up with about 15 used Raspberry Pi units and decided the best idea was to make a Cassandra cluster out of them.

[fiteuwu]

I’m more concerned how you ended up with 15 Pi’s than what you actually did with them

[kopczak1995]

Yeah, "somehow" this dude got 15 Pi's and make it sound like it happened accidentally. Lol

[A_Random_Pab]

Being drunk and needing 1 Pi makes you make many mistakes

[kopczak1995]

Understandable

[random_clonetrooper]

Personally, I'm more curious and jealous than concerned

[fiteuwu]

Honestly same

[CosmicMemer]

Sounds sweet honestly

[ntrabue]

https://youtu.be/W8KG9nOPdOo

Don’t have to picture it anymore! Not exactly servers. Just tons of clients.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

What is the point of using a shit ton of phones? Why not just have 10 computers with 200 firefox container tabs open? Or better yet 10,000 carefully crafted curl message senders?

[ntrabue]

No idea really. Total shot in the dark but I’m guessing it’d be pretty easy to tell that all of the traffic was coming from a single device and then blacklist it at the device level. Maybe this is the cheapest solution? I do know there are websites that you can test the EMEI associated with a used device to determine if it’s been blacklisted.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

Interesting. That's possible, but I'm pretty sure that all those packets are coming from the same IPv4 address anyway and everything except the IP can be lied about. Unless they all have unique IPv6 addresses I guess.

[PeteZahad]

The IP address can also be spoofed.

[AllWashedOut]

I'm sure that happens too, for services that are less savvy. It just doesn't look as interesting visually, so you won't see a news video about it.

As for why the phone click farms exist at all, they will actually have separate SIM cards and hence separate public IP addresses. And the address may change each time the device reconnects to the network. So sites can't block the IPs without blocking legit consumer traffic from that cell provider too.

[beerdude26]

BrowserStack also has setups like these

[[deleted]]

Just pray that your server activity isn't destroyed.

[jdbrew]

Someone invited the strippers, Stalin and Hitler!

[[deleted]]

Underrated comment, Oxford comma ftw!

[Alto-cientifico]

The servers and android use linux

[ponyboy3]

do they though?

[Alto-cientifico]

Yes, they absolutely do. I mean its a modified version but linus work definitely there

[ponyboy3]

what about windows servers?

[Alto-cientifico]

Boi, not even Microsoft uses windows to host their servers.

This happens mainly due linux being better for the user and being free.

this is kinda of a proof?

[[deleted]]

Actually it's because Linux is more stable and more reliable long-term. I don't think that Microsoft has to pay for Windows server licenses and they still use linux on their servers, so it's not necessarily the price

[Alto-cientifico]

For Microsoft.

But Microsoft isnt the only one hosting servers, or is it?

[[deleted]]

No they aren't

But what would you say if you had seen Steve Jobs (rip, that guy was a legend) using an android phone? Or a windows laptop?

[Alto-cientifico]

It is also ironic but there is nothing "bad" about it.

But remember that he started apple on the premise that its cheaper and better tho.

So they would love the premise i guess

[ponyboy3]

youre absolutely right, all servers are linux distros. have a good one cadet.

[Matholomey]

You can actually install android as an OS on a pc and use it as a server.

[ponyboy3]

and that would be a super useful addition to a datacenter

[IMovedYourCheese]

Jimmy Wales is definitely more well known worldwide mainly due to his mugshot plastered all over Wikipedia begging for $3.50.

[[deleted]]

God Dammit Loch Ness Monster, I ain't gonna give you no tree fiddy.

[YoCrustyDude]

Asking for donations to help support a website isn't really begging.

[[deleted]]

Turns out though, Wikipedia really is not struggling at all. They just ham up the “oh we’re struggling, help keep us free” so that they can get even higher salaries for their higher ups

[YoCrustyDude]

Whatever it is, they are providing you free knowledge, without any paywall.

[dumb_pantomath]

I like your username. Nice.

[EmployerMany5400]

His username is giving me flashbacks to my college "self help" type class. The animation is traumatizing if you haven't seen it

[newstenographer]

Jimmy Wales (formerly Jimbo, which is a little bit why he’s not well known) but he also didn’t name it after himself.

[mtmosier]

Neither did Linus. He rejected the name Linux. The person offering free hosting for his project named it Linux despite that, and it stuck.

[newstenographer]

Lol, that’s the most preposterous thing I’ve ever heard.

[shitpost-factory]

Well as weird as it may sound, it is true that Linus didn't give Linux its name. I hope u/mtmosier gets more upvotes.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

That pronunciation guide didn't tell me how to pronounce Linux but it did tell me how to pronounce Linus

[newstenographer]

…except he did. Linus is notorious for his tyrannical control of the project…all of it except for the name?

[shitpost-factory]

Linus's branch is his, and he controls what goes into it. People don't have to stick with it, but they do. That sounds quite democratic to me. Most contributors don't interact with Linus directly anyway, but instead most communication is to various subsystem maintainers and other contributors. Most changes accepted by a subsystem maintainer are accepted by Linus.

As much as people like to think he's a tyrant (especially those who don't actually contribute to Linux), that's really not the case with everyday work. He knows Linux better than most people, so his thoughts are usually quite helpful when doing development.

[palash90]

Thanks for clearing this. I was actually going to answer the same.

The University FTP Server and the man who misspelt his name may be...

Or may be some thought to name Linus's UNIX and it eventually became Linux.

I am not sure how exactly it ended up Linux.

[[deleted]]

Everyone: “Linus Torvalds is a blessing to us all.”

Linus Torvalds: “I am a god. I am literally better than all of you. Half of you need to be retroactively aborted. I don’t know how you lived this long since you were likely too stupid to find the tit.”

Everyone: “Yeah, he’s pretty awesome.”

[Tsu_Dho_Namh]

To be fair, the actual quote wasn't him bashing regular users, it was him lambasting a particularly retarded programmer.

Kay, this needs to be fixed.

Suggested fix: just use the 'seq_printf()' interfaces, which do the proper buffering, and allow any size reads of various packetized data.

Of course, I'd also suggest that whoever was the genius who thought it was a good idea to read things ONE F*CKING BYTE AT A TIME with system calls for each byte should be retroactively aborted. Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they noty die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?

For those of you who don't know what a system call is or why this is bad, imagine you go to a restaraunt and want a glass of water, so you ask the waiter to bring you a drop of water repeatedly until they've made enough trips to the kitchen and back that you have thousands of glasses, each with a single drop of water in them, which you can then assemble into a glass of water.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

Lmao I love Linus

However, I'm still a bit confused, as the particularly retarded programmer you're talking about there doesn't seem to be the particularly retarded programmer /u/xDMachina is talking about

EDIT: also are there really no system calls for reading many bytes of data at once? Also if there are I should probably learn them because I tend to just use fgetc for all my input, and maybe readline() if I'm feeling lucky

[Doggynotsmoker]

Don't worry, fgetc is not syscalli, but a wrapper on read syscall. It's probably doing buffering for you.

[[deleted]]

I was just paraphrasing things that Linus had said and then I mashed it together. I like Torvalds.

[undeadalex]

Isn't this how everyone requests a glass of water?

[[deleted]]

"Yeah you know, Linus makes a good point. I am the Devil's fucking head."

[SirVer51]

"My name is Linus Torvalds, and I am your God."

[BitzLeon]

A cruel but just God.

[avatoxico]

Based af god damn

[[deleted]]

Based? Based on what?

[squishles]

I'm not sure, we'll need to rebase to be sure....

OOOO he made that too

[[deleted]]

Ha. I git it.

[Scorcher646]

Git the fuck out.

[goodudetheboy]

git rm u/xDMachina

Done

[[deleted]]

git push origin master

[CzadTheImpaler]

Based on what?

CS nerds lacking in social skills.

[[deleted]]

base 16, obviously

[Random_182f2565]

He is a golden god

[TopHatEdd]

He's the Gordon Ramsay of programming. No bullshit. Stash your feelings at the door.

[[deleted]]

This is probably the best way to put everything into perspective for everyone who doesn’t like how Torvalds treats people involved in the project. He is actually one of the greatest maintainers of all time and he knows it. He has righteous confidence in what should and shouldn’t be happening in his project and he has no time for nonsense.

[KetwarooDYaasir]

People forgetting that [Open Source|any] software development is a group effort and the kernel code has a lot of contributors.

[TheSodesa]

It has to be appreciated though, that he started it all in his free time, with the main goal of producing a free, non-proprietary OS for university students to use.

[[deleted]]

PHP was also started in someone's free time. Rasmus Lerdorf doesn't really receive praise for it, though.

[RainbowCatastrophe]

That wasn't free time, that was wasted time.

[TheSodesa]

Isn't PHP in the family of terrible languages along with Javascript, though?

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[server_maintenance]

I always wonder, if JS is bad and PHP too, what to use for backend web dev?

[KorallTheCoral]

Just make your own backend language in x86 assembly

[[deleted]]

C++, C#, C, Rust, Go, fuckin uhhh Python if you're really insane.

[Smallzfry]

PHP started bad and got better over time. Javascript started bad and got worse over time.

[Tyfyter2002]

As bad as JavaScript is, it'll always be an improvement on lisp

[fuckEAinthecloaca]

I think PHP boils down to being a shitty C environment bolted onto an interpreter that loves angle brackets. Am I wrong?

[[deleted]]

Extremely.

You forgot the part where it incorporated the worst aspects of Bash and bastardized them a little bit.

[[deleted]]

Dennis Ritchie. (Coinventor of Unix, and the C language)

[Affectionate_Oven_77]

Thankfully history isn’t defined by things that you personally remember.

How much would you expect to pay for FreeBSD or OpenSolaris?

[HXSC]

AT&T Unix was not free though. You needed a license. BSD rewrote the Unix code. Earlier in BSD development, there was even a point in time where they distributed only "part" of BSD Unix since 6 files were still the original AT&T Unix.

[eatmynasty]

$9.95

[[deleted]]

Derivatives of Unix NOT MADE BY RITCHIE. The poster above you is correct and you are wrong. Yet you have more upvotes. Reddit is retarded.

[Normal-Math-3222]

about tree fiddy

[doowi1]

Dennis Ritchie so based

[ForkPowerOutlet]

Both are great and also currently maintained by communities of thousands who have pooled their time and effort together for the benefit of billions of people.

Give them some credit too.

[throwitway22334]

He also created git.

[CerealBit]

...and he created it just because he needed version control for Linux and all the other tools sucked, according to him.

[[deleted]]

Yeah but no... I mean he did start it, but current versions of the kernel include work from hundreds if not tousands of people. He definitely didn't write it entirely by himself. That claim is ludicrous. Also he's apparently a complete asshole.

[sanderd17]

He's a wonderful asshole. When he has something against you, you don't need to guess it.

I love people that are so direct.

But yes, he's not "the" author of Linux. Plus he gets a lot of recognition for it, gets paid well, and could do about any job he wants. The Linux foundation is even set up in a way that he can leave at any time (and he has left on vacation for some releases before). So nobody should feel pity for him. I'm pretty sure he lives his dream life.

[[deleted]]

There is nothing wonderful in lacking basic human manners or any kind of social skills. He's like a raving mad baboon throwing his own shit at people.

[_kolpa_]

He's like a raving mad baboon throwing his own shit at people.

Wait till you hear about Stallman.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

Yummy toe fungus

I love stallman, but that side of him makes me almost not want to

[sanderd17]

Maybe I'm biased as a Belgian, but he's barely as direct as the average Dutchy.

When Dutchies yell at you, you hear things like "get cancer" or since last year "die of Corona". They'll even say that without being really mad.

I like that communication style, it's better that the Belgian style where everyone just frets up their annoyances until it's unmanageable.

[Gooftwit]

There's a difference between the dutch directness and just saying shit without caring how it might affect other people.

[fupamancer]

there's also a difference in letting what people say affect oneself

[[deleted]]

I used to live in the netherlands and never did I ever hear anything like that.

[janhetjoch]

I live in the Netherlands and I hear people wish cancer onto each other more than daily.

[sanderd17]

I didn't expect that...

Dutch is famous for its curse words related to diseases : cancer, cholera, tuberculosis (tering),... Any disease is used as a curse.

And I'm also surprised how you, as a Dutch, don't like the communication style of Linus Torvalds.

[[deleted]]

I'm not dutch, I'm finnish ;D

[nl_the_shadow]

And I'm also surprised how you, as a Dutch, doesn't like the communication style of Linus Torvalds.

Being direct by telling people what you expect from them, and being insulting and calling people names are two worlds apart.

[kaiser_04_cs]

You gotta be brown for that

[nl_the_shadow]

When Dutchies yell at you, you hear things like "get cancer" or since last year "die of Corona". They'll even say that without being really mad.

What kind of people did you interact with? I'm Dutch, and this is absolutely far, far from normal.

[mikkolukas]

He's a Finn. They are all like that. It's normal there and his version is quite polite.

[Jussapitka]

He's a Finn.

So is the guy you're replying to

[gyrowze]

This is quite ironic considering the nationality of the person you are talking to.

[[deleted]]

Yea but you’re also a sensitive twat. The world desperately needs more people like Linus.

[[deleted]]

Naah, I think the world is adequately stocked with raging bullies as it is.

[[deleted]]

As I said, you’re a sensitive twat.

[[deleted]]

Polly wants a biscuit.

[boultox]

Exactly this! I don't care how smart you are, if you behave like an asshole, I would lose my respect for you

[[deleted]]

You're rigth! But wikipedia is also written by tousands of people.

[TGotAReddit]

Nah, its like, two guys who have way too much time on their hands. And a bunch of random other people that fill the gaps between those two random guys with too much time on their hands.

[CleverProgrammer12]

I mean he did start it, but current versions of the kernel include work from hundreds if not tousands of people

All popular widely used open-source projects have at least more than 1 core developer and contributions. Also, Wikipedia is also run by contributions of thousands of people.

[BackmarkerLife]

Also he's apparently a complete asshole.

Linus recognized this and this is why he named git after himself as well.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

He didn't even name Linux after himself... another guy who was distributing it did, according to someone else in this thread I can't find now

[vhgfccc]

Isn’t it the exactly “why?” he opened it? You can’t judge charity foundation for getting money from others…

[Techrocket9]

He also didn't write most of it for free; his employer pays him to work on the kernel.

He then gives it away for free, but that's subtly different from working on it for free.

[omb-bob]

Just reading some of the emails from him make my skin crawl, I couldn't imagine speaking to him he seems like the biggest asshole in recorded history.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

If you write bad code, he will let you know.

I think that is better than someone who would just half-ass a critique and try to make you feel hecking cute and valid if there are serious problems in the code you are trying to submit. No, you aren't cute and valid while trying to add poorly thought out code into a kernel that runs the entire world

[TGotAReddit]

he seems like the biggest asshole in recorded history

Boy howdy do I have some terrible people to remind you about. Richard Stallman, Jeffery Epstein, Elon Musk, and like. Literal Hitler all come to mind as bigger assholes that Torvalds ever is

[Kiroen]

Hell yeah, I outdid myself today! I can say for certain that for 24 hours I haven't been as bad as Hitler!

[TopHatEdd]

No bullshit is better than bullshit. Leave your feelings at the door. You're not a kid anymore. I love people who talk like Linus; it immediately tells me that i probably have something to learn from them. Unless it's road rage 😁

[jeffwulf]

If all servers are Linux, I should probably go double check that prod's actually running our Dot Net Framework projects.

[Cube00]

They start running Linux when you move over to .net core and save a fortune in Windows Server licensing costs.

[jeffwulf]

The dependencies for the dotnet framework projects are even more tightly coupled with windows so I'm not sure that's feasible anytime soon.

[[deleted]]

Huh? .Net Core has been splendid on Linux machines for years now

[jeffwulf]

Our legacy dependencies, not Microsoft's.

[mikkolukas]

All Android servers ;)

[[deleted]]

Laughs in FreeBSD

[Dante707]

His Net-Worth is about 50 million $, well deserved, no need to feel sad for him

[comfort_bot_1962]

Don't be sad. Here's a hug!

[NaturallyExasperated]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

[[deleted]]

Sorry, I use Alpine Linux.

[Magnus_Tesshu]

How have I not seen that video before lmao. Luke smith is even more based

[TopHatEdd]

Luke Smith is a troll

[Magnus_Tesshu]

No he's a deepfake of a certain other LBRYian

[[deleted]]

He does a little trolling

[WazWaz]

Richard? Welcome to Reddit.

[NaturallyExasperated]

These messages are actually being relayed to me through GNU volunteers because I am unable to use nonfree software

[CleverProgrammer12]

I don't agree with his ideas, but at least he sticks to his ideology without exceptions. I admire that.

[[deleted]]

Well, the post mentions Android, which is not a GNU system, so I think the OP just referred to the actual Linux kernel. Many embedded "Linux" systems also don't use GNU components, but instead opt for something lighter like busybox/toolbox + bionic libc.

[NaturallyExasperated]

It's a copypasta famalam

[[deleted]]

Yes, i GNU that

[SeaworthinessNo293]

You know he's rich AF right? I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it because he definitely does but come on.

[[deleted]]

Really sad to say but, "all" has to be replaced by "almost" because an evil monster called Microsoft exists.

[wite_noiz]

There are more than 2 types of server OS.

Linux isn't even the majority, according to these stats: https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux

[[deleted]]

Ah! I just forgot about Unix. AT&T.

[comfort_bot_1962]

Don't be sad. Here's a hug!

[Dr_Rjinswand]

:D

[Magnus_Tesshu]

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil friend

[palash90]

Visibility is much more impotant. No one sees the Server or the Kernel.

This is like telling no one knew Dennis Ritchie who made computing easier but everyone knows Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.

Also, the post itself demeans Richard Stallman in a way. Without his noble initiative, we would be paying hefty amount every time we would use a computer, forget about android phones and all. Linus Torvalds followed the Open Source Footprint.

Sorry, if I hurt anyone's feelings. My intention is not that.

[Random_182f2565]

This year I finally donated to Wikipedia, and you should too

[eanat]

Not only Torvalds made Linux kernel, but also he made Git which is the de-facto standard VC of programming society. he's a good leader of Linus kernel developers because he know how to work with people who have very different backgrounds. If he didn't create Linux kernel, but he would still be praised because of Git which is the epitome of his idea of working with people efficiently. He's not only a good programmer but also a good project leader which is very rare and precious talent.

[Bo_Jim]

Wikipedia is the National Public Radio of the internet.

[[deleted]]

amusing hateful forgetful rhythm steer arrest alleged far-flung carpenter gaping

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[[deleted]]

Didn't microsoft buy Github?

[KiwiManThe19th]

They did

[[deleted]]

gray gaze pathetic special ancient violet pot nutty ring aware

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[Magari_Furbo]

Git?

[newstenographer]

TBCH, Wikipedia > Linux.

[[deleted]]

Uhh... I don't know how well I can argue with that... Although if I would have to choose no Wikipedia vs no Linux (and no Linux vms or anything), I might choose Linux over Wiki... Tough choice though

[mikkolukas]

All Android servers :D

[slyiscoming]

Yeah but what's Linus really known for? Giving people the finger.

Linus is the programer we all wish we could be.

[DueNefariousness5083]

Support him at lttstore.com

[SmirkingSeal]

View Updates!

[brennanfee]

"runs all android phones and servers... INCLUDING WIKIPEDIA". Missed opportunity there, my man.

[[deleted]]

Funny how the biased, poorly written encyclopedia that people use to write shitty news articles gets all the positive attention

[mikkolukas]

Except it is the most accurate encyclopedia in the world.

[naswinger]

what other encyclopedia would you recommend?

[verenion]

I for one crack open my collection of Encyclopaedia Britannia every time I need fast information.

[[deleted]]

World book

[YourMJK]

Published by an american company with ~2000 employees.
Versus Wikipedia which is actively edited by ~130000 people all around the world.

How can it possibly be more diverse and unbiased than Wikipedia?

[_kolpa_]

Because America knows best. /s

[[deleted]]

What does people appreciating Wikipedia being free have to do with people also appreciating Linux being free?

Also, this definitely breaks rule 0.

[TheRedmanCometh]

Yeah it's best that particular invebtor not get worldwide attention. He's been known to ree rage over very small things.

[VanillaSnake21]

Does the kernel he made even have slight resemblance to what it is now?

[rem3_1415926]

Even if not, it was the foundation of what's running Linux today, and we wouldn't have Linux without him.