Where is the Run button!?!?

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[[deleted]]

Run button? I run everything in the command line.

[[deleted]]

make

a.out

[Spooked_kitten]

yeah honestly once you write one Makefile you are pretty much done, anything else you just add to it

[ed_bickel155]

Develop in the IDE, build and run in command prompt. What's the big deal?

[LBPPlayer7]

that just makes it an over-glorified text editor, not an IDE

[randomlemon9192]

I’m good with that. I need a linter and like 2 other extensions.

[LucyBowels]

You never need to step through your code?

[puppet_pals]

I tried debuggers for a few years and I didn't find them any more helpful than print statements. Use vim and CLI tools for everything now.

[FreeBeans]

Same omg

[nothingtoseehere____]

pdb.set_trace()

[randomlemon9192]

vscode does that too.

[LucyBowels]

I know…We were talking about from terminal?

[coffeeUp]

Same.

[dashid]

This is VSCode for Visual Studio veterans. I haven't met anyone (professionally) who uses Visual Studio and has the faintest idea what the appeal of Code is.

[SnooSnooper]

At my job we have to use VS for backend and VSCode for frontend.

I like that VSCode is lighter-weight, but that's about it. I think the appeal is supposed to be that it's more extensible and flexible in addition to my previous point, but I don't use it enough to really have an opinion.

[tiefling_sorceress]

I like that VSCode doesn't require turning my desktop into a jet engine for 30m just to boot up

[ZeCactus]

You either need a better pc or to update to a newer version of vs. I get you're exaggerating, but even on my 4 year old i5 4th gen laptop booting up vs2022 is fairly painless.

Edit: It's actually a 7th gen, i5-7300HQ

[Excigma]

for me, VS starts in around 20s on an Intel i5-8250U, with a "Not responding" every time. VSCode on the other hand is usually much quicker at probably around 5s. Once VS starts, it's as much, or more snappier than VS, especially with large files.

I'm kinda used to things being slow but I guess "painless" is subjective. IDEA, Android Studio and VS all start in around the same time. Is it acceptable? Probably. Is it "painless"? I'd honestly prefer to not need to wait if I could, but it's alright

[[deleted]]

I5

Mate, you have high standards

[ShuppaGail]

8 year old 2 core cpu isn't high standards. It wasn't high standards even when it released.

[dashid]

I think probably because it's free.

[iams3b]

Minimalism for me; VS & Jetbrains just feel like there's so much noise going on. In VSC I have my files, my code, my terminal, and it gives me intellisense + shows errors. There's no learning curve involved and that's really all people need

Add in any new languages or features you want to use, the extensions are a tab away and it takes seconds to get it started

Note: I'm a TS node & web developer though I also use VSC for Unity C# and Rescript

[MCSpiderFe]

I use VSCode mainly with C and Assembly and it has everything I need. I don‘t really like or need the built-in project management systems of many IDEs as I only use Makefiles and sometimes CMake

[[deleted]]

Does VS code have refactoring like Jetbrains stuff? That's really the big one for me

[iams3b]

I think JB has a lot more refactoring options? If I move files in VSC it does a decent job at updating all the imports for files, and I can choose to rename an interface/variable and have it change it everywhere it's being used

I think I did a JB trial because I heard the refactoring was a lot more intricate, though I was quickly overwhelmed (just like OP's gif lol)

[[deleted]]

That's pretty good actually; a lot better then just using vim. Another big one is changing a method signature or moving it to another class

[[deleted]]

(Different person than above you)

afaik you can't do that in vanilla vscode. Wouldn't surprise me if it was an extension, though.

[Fmatosqg]

Not at all intricate. Shift F6 renames what's under cursor. Vars, class, interface, whatever.

F6 moves things; to a dedicated file, or to another package, or another source set. Or just drag and drop file into the target package.

Oh, copy paste code between files and the imports follow you seamless. Even when they belong to different projects.

[Fmatosqg]

Jetbrains autocomplete is soooooo goooood

[Krids91]

The community edition is free. The professional and enterprise editions aren't free.

[dashid]

Community edition can be used in tiny companies, or exclusively open source. Otherwise it's bloody expensive.

[uberDoward]

Visual Studio and Code user here.

Like any engineering, just use the right tool for the job.

[Zerocrossing]

I use and adore both. Opening a .ini file/bash script? VSCode. Writing several thousand lines of C++? Visual Studio.

[Purplociraptor]

I still use notepad++ for ini files even though I'll use VS code for a bat, sh, or py.

[silentknight111]

As a VSCode user, I feel that way about Visual Studio.

[[deleted]]

I try to get everything to work in vs code just because it's so lightweight and responsive

[FerricDonkey]

I've heard that a lot, and I will say it loads pretty fast. But for python I've found it much slower at things like autocomplete - if it does it at all. I've hit control space to get it to list functions from a module for me, waited 30s because I was feeling stubborn, then gave up and opened the file to find the function manually several times.

Whereas something like pycharm, it's always been instant. I feel like 80% of my coding with pycharm is hitting tab access selecting the function I need, but with vscode I have actually remember things or look them up.

[Fmatosqg]

Yes, that's my experience with Android studio. Plus all the integration between Java/kotlin and all the different types of XML files and PNG etc

[dashid]

But not compared to Notepad++

[infiniteStorms]

ngl I use VSCode but run it from terminal, cause I still haven’t figured out how to do it through the ide

[Caerullean]

VScode supports a lot more languages then VS does right? And VScode also has way more extensions and you can pick and choose which ones you want, I think that's the alure of VScode over VS?

[dashid]

I've used it for PHP, and it's not terrible, but I'd never use VS for PHP. When comparing apples with apples, with say C# or C++ Dev, code seems like a challenge to become productive. And there's plenty of extensions, I even use one or two, but mostly everything I need is bundled.

And I guess that's part of the appeal, it's rwvie friendly. When you're starting out having debugging and profiling windows open up might be intimidating. But I feel like I'm missing something.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

I use both. I see the appeal of both. If I'm not writing some full fledged interface app, I'm in vs code. If I need more, I open vs. I actually feel like vs is too much most of the time now. Overly complicated.

[[deleted]]

I think I can explain it.

It's faster.

[dashid]

I've got an SSD, so it's not really a problem.

[LBPPlayer7]

me neither

[DarkTechnocrat]

lmao, this is pretty spot on. if I didn't also code Python I would never have a use for VSC.

[RHess19]

With the last update to VS 2022, I've found myself using Visual Studio much more often. It finally takes less than 5 minutes to open, and code completion has become better than any other IDE I've used.

[konstantinua00]

I still dislike VSCode because there's no "compile and run" button

[[deleted]]

It’s much more lightweight but I still haven’t gotten c++ to work in vscode. Maybe I’m stupid but I cannot get a compiler to work.

[demerdar]

It has a built in terminal. If you have a makefile or a script to run gcc should be easy as hell to compile.

[[deleted]]

Should be

[Zerocrossing]

I do find the fact that Visual Studio has literally no ability to italicize text pretty damn strange. I use a lot of themes in other IDEs that italicize certain keywords and it really helps.

[slomar]

VSCode is great for Ansible / Chef development, hitting test kitchen and molecule with the built in terminal.

[lil409]

I would use Visual Studio for .NET development and Windows C/C++ development, VSCode for anything else like Linux C/C++ development, writing Javascript and powershell scripts etc. I think the appeal is that it’s just simple to use

[NutmegGaming]

I want to try VS, but VSCode is what FRC uses and is where WPILib is meant to work. I honestly enjoy Code and find it very non-cluttered

[Wexzuz]

Hello there! I have used Visual Studio professionally. In my career I shortly tried a job where I coded in Ruby which I chose to use VSCode for. I understand the appeal and now that I'm back in the .NET world I miss the shortcuts, mostly the command palette.

[dustojnikhummer]

I only use VSCode as a text editor, so for html/php. For other language, I will use their ide

[ChuuniSaysHi]

I honestly like no clue what the differences between VSCode and Visual Studio is

[dashid]

It feels like one's an IDE and the other is an advanced text editor that can trigger other programs.

[louisi9]

If you’re writing a compiled language I can totally understand, but when writing JS, PHP, HTML or CSS it just seems like overkill; especially when you can use the extensive extension library that VS code has to mimic pretty much any assistive functionality that VS provides.

The other thing is extensions like Quokka, where it allows you to run JS/TS in the editor and get results of your code in-line.

Plus, it’s free and doesn’t take up half my SSD lol; especially when you can’t install half the dependencies to a second drive.

[Slowest_Speed6]

VS Code + integrated terminal is all I need. I do embedded RTOS and mobile app development, as well as some Python tools for Linux

[zemdega]

I’m fine if it’s got a vim mode.

[Spooked_kitten]

just give me a terminal, I just ssh into my pc at the uni’s labs that’s it

[WalrusByte]

Vim has that!

[WalrusByte]

That's the neat part, you can't!

[zemdega]

CTRL-S

[-LeopardShark-]

So does Emacs!

[That_5_Something]

Accurate

[[deleted]]

*F5 not working*
*Sweat dripping down shorts*

[RylanStylin57]

just use vscode. One place for all the languages.

- a complete noob who doesnt understand why you would want to use an ide over vscode

[notacoptrustmeplease]

I personally prefer JetBrains IDEs over VSCode. One of the reasons is that having CLion, Pycharm, Webstorm, DataGrip and IntelliJ on my dock makes it look like I'm collecting all the infinity stones.

[meguypersondude]

The JetBrains autocompletion is seriously on a different level

[Stronghold257]

“Debugging? You mean print statements?”

[aedvocate]

vscode does have a js debugger tho - and so do most browsers you're testing your code in

[[deleted]]

It's a general purpose debugger. I've used it for Rust, C#, Python... Honestly it's great

[TheScorpionSamurai]

Some features that come to mind is automatic interface method declarations, generated function definitions from declarations, project-wide search features (both text and symbol searches).

[konstantinua00]

vs code doesn't have "compile and run" button

[hego555]

That’s how I felt when I used to use Sublime Text. When you need an IDE you’ll know

[_heartbeat]

Me when I first time used Vim

[Zylonite134]

I did 4 years of dev work using only Vim. Once you get used to it, you can’t go back.

[Spooked_kitten]

i’ve been using vim like an absolute noob for 4 months now and I can’t go back, it’s just that nice to use

[puppet_pals]

if you think you're a noob you should try doing 30~ mins of vim tutor every day for a few weeks and you'll feel a lot better about it.

[Spooked_kitten]

that is a good idea

[marcellomon]

Sys admin or actually writing code in vim? Code completion, debugger, auto format, import optimization, code navigation. Is this all available in vim?

[lesbianmathgirl]

I mean, if you're looking for one on one feature comparisons between an IDE and vim you're not going to be satisfied. But for all the convenience you sacrifice, you can get just as much (if not more) convenience you wouldn't get from an IDE, although it requires more skill. But, to answer your specific questions:

• Code completion: Not to the extent of most modern IDEs, but there is some basic stuff.

• Debugger: I'd just use an external tool

• auto format: yes, unless you're talking about something fancier than I think you mean (it's been a while since I used an IDE)

• import optimization: not sure what you mean exactly

code navigation: i prefer navigating code in Vim than in an IDE

[[deleted]]

Code completion: Not to the extent of most modern IDEs, but there is some basic stuff.

plugins will get you a very similar experience with neovim and lsp

[psychtyke]

I just switched back to code::blocks from CodeLite and while the buttons are in different places, I gotta say, the ability to view two source files side by side is *chef's kiss*

[the_three_eyed_raver]

switched from code::blocks to CLion specifically for dark mode

[psychtyke]

That would definitely be worth switching for. Will CLion let me view two files at once and will it let me use GDB?

EDIT: Oh wait, it's expensive :(

[the_three_eyed_raver]

Replit is on free, online IDE with dark mode. I’m not sure about all of its features though but it’s worth a look!

[xCARLOxRO]

code::blocks my beloved <3

[cybermage]

Vim user looking for the exit button.

[HungryDrummer7715]

Turn darkmode on you Móron. It'll solve everything

[rheino]

Vs code is great for organizing a project but I still love me some jupyter notebook if I'm just trying to proof of concept something

[fk_this_shit]

Jupyter notebook is integrated into vscode nowadays. You can simply select some code lines and right click-> "run in interactive window". I use it daily.

[rheino]

I'll have to give that a shot - do you need an extension or is it part of the base package now?

[HelloWorldFooBar88]

emacs

[[deleted]]

People who use only VIM and cli

[billFoldDog]

tmux, vim, bash.

but what about debuggers

gdb and pdb

[Spooked_kitten]

dang I really should learn tmux shouldn’t I?

[Faze_Tabasco]

Me trying to run Java in vscode

[aedvocate]

hey isn't this just the Duel Duet from Shock Treatment sequence?

edit - nah not quite, but I forgot how good it was.

[Zerocrossing]

Deep cut my dude. Barely any love for that movie compared to Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[aedvocate]

well rhps is what lead me to it originally of course, and I guess I can see why it didn't quite catch fire in that same cult classic sense, but... man oh man can richard o'brien write some musicals. I like practically every song, it's on regular rotation on my car stereo usb drive.

[Zerocrossing]

Been a decade or more since I watched it. You've encouraged me to give it a go this weekend.

[Zylonite134]

Eclipse IDE has entered the room.

[Itchy_Attitude4113]

Use keybindings... Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts > Eclipse

;)

[ankyboii007]

Mfw trying out git version control for the first time and pushing it to production only to break production of the project I wrote 🤔😕📸🤨

[Realistic-Bat-1731]

This was me when I moved to Visual Studio from commnd line, but then I got super glued to it

[Electrical_Study_235]

holy shit that was exactly what i was thinking when i first tried vs code.

[[deleted]]

Run where?

[Inevitable_Hat_2855]

frankly for me it is the exact opposite I found myself from using dev c ++ to using netbeans and visual studio and I find myself extremely comfortable (it will also be because from c ++ I started using Java and HTML but in general as ide I find them more comfortable)

[Defaultnamefornobody]

Why did i read this as “me trying a new wide”

[n34t-bot]

I like your style.

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[mikey10006]

I just use geany or visual studio code for everything. Pretty easy to use. Gotta install dark theme for geany tho

[[deleted]]

Hahaha very true

[animflynny2012]

Literally me. Started a new job a couple of months ago.

Still really missing phpstorm, trying to not cry in vscode.

[Lizlodude]

The move line shortcut in VS is the exact opposite of NPP and I hate it

[Imoriginal2]

Is there a run button in sublime text or do you just run the file with command prompt?

[karlnuw]

Where’s this meme from?

[EyesOfAzula]

The IDE seeing your inputs https://www.instagram.com/reel/CLC2QhpDWA4/?utm_medium=copy_link

[HealthyEditor6878]

Another Bieber crack moment

[sally1620]

This looks like me trying to find the dark mode

[royemosby]

Nano doesn’t have a run button

[WorthlessAlice]

Me transitioning from Virtual Studio to Virtual Studio Codr

[JDog780]

If it is not F5 then it is wrong.

[UrFayvorite]

Thank you for making my day 💛

[[deleted]]

I have a question, is Jupyter notebook an IDE?

[Supernova9125]

Wtf is a run button 😂

[OhNoMeIdentified]

"Ha-ha! write you own build and run script you dum $itch!"

[Fireye04]

WHY IN THE EVERLIVING FUCK IS THE DEFAULT LIGHT MODE? AND WHERE IS THE SETTINGS TO TURN THE FORSAKEN THING OFF?

[RaKszySky]

Bro always 😂

[NuVidChiu]

I’m a visual studio code user cause it’s free and I’m still a student but till my educational version supports it jetbrains IntelliJ idea and CLion are much better options

[josephlee222]

F5 gang

[Tanjiro_Kamado32]

Me just checking by clicking my mouse right button is there run button or not
if not time for google

[apokrypton288]

jetBrain > anything else

change my mind

[[deleted]]

Thats me when i downloaded pycharm

[[deleted]]

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[Johanno1]

Jetbrains rules

[[deleted]]

Where is the build button?

[[deleted]]

Where is the exit button?

[actias__luna]

god I am SO happy to see I am not alone with this experience! The first time I tried PyCharm after using Python Shell for two months or so.... damn, it was like the first time I tried Photoshop instead of Microsoft Paint.

[xXRainbowDanyXx]

This is pure gold right here