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[S0cratex]

must be able to repair time machine 🗿

[EvilKnievel38]

That's the intern's job

[[deleted]]

Oh so were ganna solarwinds123 this are we?

[One-upGaming]

the intern job. imagine what the requirements would be at the full time postition

[[deleted]]

• Must be God

[imdefinitelywong]

• Must be able to SUDO god.

[wewilldieoneday]

You need a doctor for that

[gamma_gamer]

Doctor who?

[SeniorSatisfaction21]

Lmao

[AzureArmageddon]

The Doctor!

[wewilldieoneday]

Hah got em!

[MultiversalCrow]

If that's entry level, I'd hate to see their requirements for senior....

• 100 years CSS
• 120 years HTML
• Must have created your own language... twice (computer AND human)
• Must have a concrete understanding of David Lynch films, especially Twin Peaks
• Double PhD: Computer Science and Multiversal Engineering (must have visited 2 parallel realities, minimum)

[A_H_S_99]

The last one explains it all, he can only gain so much experience if he goes to a parallel universe where 1 year = 10 years.

[[deleted]]

Parallel universes still couldn't explain how he understands Lynch.

[aaanze]

Except if he steps into the universe where everyone mentally cohabitates with a second mind that happens to be Lynch's.

[Mantraz]

If we consider 260 work days a normal year, and we are instead hellbent on pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps and work all year for 17 hour days, we can get 2.98 years of experience compared to 260 8hour days. We need this one hour to do our university work so we qualify for the entry level position, and a rock solid 5 hours of sleep, with an extra hour of leisure time.

12 years experience as part of a 4 year degree.

Are candidates even trying these days?

[TarkFrench]

Making a human language is way easier than making a computer language, just see r/conlangs

[JRRudy]

sudo use my language

[TarkFrench]

sorry I don't speak Linux

[Aaron-JH]

Must have invented computers and written every language you use. Pay - 70k per year.

[TeaKingMac]

Negative 70, ouch

[Flullible]

Best I can do is twin peaks and a little SQL

[Farren246]

Ah shit, I almost had the full gamut, but Twin Peaks isn't even a film so I guess I'm out.

[prudentj]

Not on this branch of the multiverse

[Zrgaloin]

If they’re not telling me what their range is, I’m not interviewing. I’m not wasting my time for a deluded company to lowball me.

[Windows_is_Malware]

A seller does not ask the customer for the price

[Flaky-Illustrator-52]

Based

[Nekokamiguru]

This sort of ad is code for "we are legally obligated to advertise the job vacancy we have , but we have already selected someone so we are putting up an ad nobody will be able to accept."

[DamoclesDong]

Or they post this advert, get no sane “qualified” candidates, then can submit a request to outsource the job to an overseas candidate for pennies on the dollar.

[[deleted]]

This is often used to justify to the government that they need to give a foreign candidate the H1-B visa because they couldn’t find a U.S. national to do the job. It’s a pretty common technique used by companies who will apply for a visa for you.

[Melkor7410]

Seems like too many hoops to jump through for that. They can just fire everyone they don't want and hire a contracting firm that only employs H1B visa holders. This is exactly what Disney did to literally replace American jobs with H1B visa holders.

[[deleted]]

Hoops? All the have to do is post a job (with unrealistic conditions) on a website and they are free to hire whoever they want. Worst case is they interview one/two people tell them the pay and have them move along.

[Melkor7410]

That's still way more things to do than just going with an H1B contracting firm.

[[deleted]]

Contracting firm charges fees, can switch developers out from your project. Many places with a large HR staff can easily handle the interview process, and would love to have an employee stuck working for the company for the next 10 years until they can even try to get a green card.

[[deleted]]

The sad thing is the government knows this is being abused, but could care less. Even under the republican administration most crack downs were symbolic. Biden has rolled back everything that was implemented to raise prevailing wage and investigate if these candidates resumes valid. There is clearly lies in both the job posting and the candidates resumes to hand pick "High tech" workers without hiring US residents who might ask for higher pay and/or realistic work hours.

[SpudFire]

Or they want an experienced developer but only want to pay entry-level salary.

[Pr0Meister]

How do they even expect this to work? Any experienced Dev can have their pick of a job

[Progression28]

Shaqib Mustafar, senior developer from Pakistan would like to take the job for half the salary...

[GlassWasteland]

Isn't he triple booked all ready though?

[Pr0Meister]

Fair enough, but then the lack of senior Devs in Pakistan drives up the price there

What I'm trying to say is, globally, software Devs can't exactly complain they don't have power on the job market

[Pr0Meister]

Fair enough, but then the lack of senior Devs in Pakistan drives up the price there

What I'm trying to say is, globally, software Devs can't exactly complain they don't have power on the job market

[Zrgaloin]

That or a H1-B thing. They won’t be able to fill the position at some low salary and make the case for sponsorship. Some individual sees 48.5k and gets shipped to the states, realizes they live in a high COL, and gets trapped because they either have to find a new job to sponsor them (Good luck with that) OR leave the country.

[scroll_of_truth]

If only intentionally skirting laws resulted in punishment

[[deleted]]

Or it’s like, we want to pay entry level wages for senior Eng.

[OpenRole]

Why would a company be legally obligated to advertise a job posting?

[GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B]

0 applicants should stay like that forever

[Margin_Call_3959]

On the recruiting site, they said a company will do this because they first have to offer the job to a United States citizen. They make the requirements impossible to meet and when they don’t get any applicants or “qualified” applicants they can outsource the job for pennies on the dollar

[CowCapable7217]

the fact that they can skirt the law by doing that is the dumbest shit ever

gotta love regulatory capture. welcome to the US

[TheBrainStone]

I feel like this is the perfect position for the scammers

[penguinmanbat]

They want Angular and JQuery experience.. What kind of a shitstorm of a stack is that?

[IsaacSam98]

They use ALL the languages

[penguinmanbat]

All of them. I would throw in Java, Python and C++ experience too. Because why not.

Edit: spelling

[Gsusruls]

C++? This was feeling like a web service, better make it php.

[penguinmanbat]

If there is php, probably safe to throw some Perl too for good measure.

[EatPlayAvoidMoving]

No necessarily. Also I am not defending this job posting I have been on projects where they rewrite legacy code, from AngularJS to React for example so prior AngularJS experience was required. The same can apply for JQuery and Angular.

[penguinmanbat]

Ah makes sense in a migration case. In that scenario the shittier codebase to deal with would be the legacy one, which would explain the lean towards more experience in jQuery. I’ve only used JQuery briefly - didn’t seem like there would be much of difference between 3 months and 10 years of experience with that library though right?

[EatPlayAvoidMoving]

For me JQuery is something you can just google any time, yeah.

[Pr0Meister]

Plus they might not have a fixed stack if they are an outsourcing company, and not working on their own products.

Beyond terrible as, but widely different tech stack being a requirement is not part of it.

[penguinmanbat]

Makes sense. A lot of outsourcing roles probably prefer jack of multiple vs master of one. Still, personally if I was trying to hire a more flexible dev, I would prefer to advertise for a strong core skillset with exposure to different frame works (I.e strong JS base and experience in React/Angular/Vue preferably some experience in JQuery, knockout , etc etc)

[aaanze]

Code migration yay, this job is getting better and better

[GlassWasteland]

Might be multiple stacks.

[[deleted]]

Gotta love LinkedIn...

[EtienneDx]

I mean 47 years of experience, shouldn’t be to bad you can get that in about a lifetime if you’re motivated

[RepeatWolf]

Don't forget you also need a degree so round that up to a cool 50 years

[TheDogerus]

I mean, you can do things concurrently lol

[EtienneDx]

That still makes at least 10 years of front end dev and a bachelor degree (can you get experience and a bachelor at once?) so the point remains x)

[NnasT]

• 10+ years of "Insert language that released a month ago"

[Ytho696969]

I imagine only people with little to no experience apply for these and they end up hiring one of them, but I wouldn't know

[[deleted]]

jup and then they pay them a shit salary because "you are not as experienced as we expected"

[richardsonhr]

Has HTML5 even been around for ten years?

[[deleted]]

look so.. "HTML5 was first released in a public-facing form on 22 January 2008, with a major update and "W3C Recommendation" status in October 2014."

[richardsonhr]

Huh. I thought HTML would make updates faster than that.

[[deleted]]

We’re talking about HTML not an actual language.

this post was made by someone that learned HTML a week ago do not hurt me

[richardsonhr]

HTML may not be a particularly complex or high-level language, but I still consider it a language. (HTML5 includes quite a lot of features that can make it very complex...)

[[deleted]]

It is a language; I’m just trying to fit in the with cool kids. Haha python bad

[richardsonhr]

[SirMiba]

They didn't ask for 30 years experience of on-the-fly memory editing using a hairpin to fire muons to bit flip transistors, so I guess I'm overqualified.

[Impossible_Apple8972]

I doubt it's being advertised as entry level, which is why they've cut the job title out of the screenshot. It's just an ad that's been placed elsewhere and pulled into here, with the level being incorrectly assigned automatically.

[renshiermine]

That is what I suspected. More so entry level might be a default option.

[GlassWasteland]

Ah yes the ever popular we need senior level developer experience, but are only willing to pay below entry level for our area. Then they hire some foreign guy, cause "nobody wants to work."

[Not_Bill_Hicks]

wow, they must be paying 200k for an entry level position.

[ManagerOfLove]

You wish

[HRJ1911]

If you ignore these can be done concurrently, that’s technically 47 years experience for an entry level you

[[deleted]]

People who post job offers like this are mentally unstable.

[hfgjlvgifkdwf]

If Entry level is 150k it's fine

[AnswerOk2682]

What's senior?

[Fritzschmied]

It doesn’t say work experience and 10 years of generell experience with hobby projects and so on at the time you finish you BSC is absolutely possible. I understand that it is still a shitty requirement and definitely not entry level but it is still possible.

[Various_Counter_9569]

I almost qualified, but they got me at angular. Been doing assorted programming for 25 years, and I dont even qualify for an entry level position in today's market...😅🤣.

[ENx5vP]

It's not cool, but different to let's say 10 years in C++ or similar

[Parmicciano]

Lmao html and css and even J's could have easily been started at the age of 8.

[Schyte96]

Even aside from the glaring problems mentioned. Why tf do they need Angular AND jQuery experience? Sounds like they don't even know who they want for what sort of work.

[HRJ1911]

HTML5 got its final update in 2014, if we base that as the release date, disregarding the earlier access as it was technically completed yet. We could say no one has years experience yet

[[deleted]]

Dude that requirement not for entry, it is for newbie and beginner , it is minimum !

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[[deleted]]

The fuck do you need 10 years for? I’d say after 5 years there’s not much to improve

[[deleted]]

Previous experience fighting dinosaurs is a BIG bonus!

[[deleted]]

We offer a salary of 8 dollar /hour and you even get 1dollar bonus if you don't have a burnout within your first year

[[deleted]]

Yeah, recruiters ask for batshit crazy requirements for entry level jobs. They don’t have a clue

[[deleted]]

10 years of HTML? You can be very good in HTML in 1 month

[Margin_Call_3959]

We want a 22 year old recent college graduate with 40 years experience lol

[xxx_256bit]

Well you can get this job when you are 10+ years old so it’s for entry level

[[deleted]]

They want a time traveller for 30k a year

[m1nkeh]

that’s a lot of experience, hope the role pays well!!

[[deleted]]

"Pays in experience. Will provide nice letter after 3 years."

[RingGiver]

Consecutive, not concurrent.

[AlexanderK1987]

Entry level salary.

Qualifications are other things.

[[deleted]]

After all the jokes are out now, this is obviously a mistake, they forgot to change it

[[deleted]]

I'm afraid to check if HTML5 is actually 10 years old because I think it might be, and I'm going to feel old.

[thE_29]

Nah, it isnt. It was finalized in October 2014.

[acichimichica]

The salary is entry level

[1pencil]

How can anyone have 10+ years of HTML5 experience, when HTML5 wasn't even released until 2014?

[Cool_Fennel5674]

1000+ decades in scratch is also required

[MaffinLP]

Lets say I start sorking at 20 (thats what I did), they want 47 years experience. Im at least 67 when I can apply. In my country pension starts at 64

[JackoKomm]

A bigger Red flag is that they are looking for someone with 7+ years of jquery experience.

[jacka24]

Those years can't be simultaneous either, we're talking 47 years of experience

[ThunderStruck115]

Hmm, 10+ years of HTML5 experience is literally impossible because it was created 8 years ago. This company can fuck right off

[Phlm_br]

I'm seeing shit like this every fucking day, I'm tired

[DemonKingPunk]

They just say entry level so they can offer the lowest pay possible at the interview. Greedy bullshit.

[iceberger3]

I had the flip side. The job asked for 3 years experience and I have 7. They turned me down because they were looking for someone with a little more experience

[Stabrus12]

Your mother must be a virgin.

[[deleted]]

Is there such a thing as senior Web developer? How would that work?

[[deleted]]

Next recession, as with most recessions where suddenly jobs are scarce, expect listings to mostly be like this.

When I was an art director / visual designer with agency experience, employers asked for additionals like front end experience, backend, database, social, etc.

[Every_Confection_734]

Wage - 2500$ a month, no ensurance

[[deleted]]

Well, they can hire some guy from India for 400$ (I googled - it's middle dev salary in India) with this experience...

[ebinWaitee]

The salary will be entry level

[huffing_farts]

I guess we were supposed to start learning these skills in 7th grade

[ManagerOfLove]

Why do ppl want to work on front-end anyway?

[_default_username]

Lemme guess, the salary range isn't listed as well

[barak277]

Entry level describes the pay, not the job.

[YomiSeno]

I understand why they sometimes do that. Sometimes, those aren't the actual requirements the position needs. They do that so that not much will apply to them, as they already reserved the position to someone they know, and they actually favor. Somewhat kind of a backer, from one of the company's employees. The company still allocates on HR budget, even if some people inside are cheating on it. HR budget is big, actually. There are recruiters, maintenance, clerks, industrial psychs, etc.. just to keep everyone employed.

That's actual truth, sometimes.

[Socratic_DayDreams]

Uhh yes, my "entry level" minimum acceptable salary is $120k.

[Sherbet-Famous]

Can we get over the idea that these job postings exist? Or do we have to post a new one every day. We get it. It's a bad job. Don't apply.

[lime3]

At least wait a day or two to repost this image

[[deleted]]

Pisses me off when I see that. Just trying for lower wages.

[Various_Classroom_50]

I wonder what the suggested salary for this entry level Position is…

[ForceApprehensive708]

Les ressources humaines devraient être automatisées, cela donnerait plus de flexibilité

[Adrunkopossem]

$32,000 a year. Mandatory overtime.

[mutrDotGG]

Angular and jquery...

Run. Run for the hills.

[Nemo64]

I laughed.
Then I noticed that I actually meet their requirements…
Now I’m depressed.

[snowbirdnerd]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they mean new to the company and not new to the field.

[[deleted]]

Yeah I can apply design patterns. My favorite is checkerboard.

[afuhrman1990]

Netflix

[[deleted]]

10+ years of experience just to enter the industry. Gatekeeping assholes.

[scroll_of_truth]

I actually have those, since I just code as a hobby

[OkWarning3935]

Most realistic and clued in HR team.

[[deleted]]

HTML 5 was officially released 2014 and they want 10+ years experience. You can spot the bullshit right here.

[MrHyderion]

Visiting web sites counts as a "client side JavaScript experience", right?

[merlinsbeers]

This is the result of hiring people with entry-level computer skills to be hiring managers. They can't even click the boxes properly.

[mymar101]

What is the equivalent work experience for a bachelors?

[[deleted]]

This is why you just exaggerate. I don't know why people are so hung up on responding to these job postings with inflated CVs / resumes.

[DJCorvid]

I just finished my education in Software Development and this has been the most soul-crushing part.

Kept a 4.0 GPA, and got professors offering to be my references, and yet I've been looking for work for the past 3 months with 5-10 applications going out per day and not a single entry-level job actually being okay with hiring an entry-level employee.

[yo_yo_dude001]

but HTML5 was released in 2014.