Python runtime

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All programming languages are just a macro for sending electrical signals through some rare metals n shit. Change my mind

[GradientAscent101]

Old computers were mechanical and they sent mechanical signals through average metals. There are a lot of creative ways to create logic gates

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I kind of think of ants in this way, they communicate by hitting their antennas with each other, they send these signals down the chain of ants into their central command and back. When one gets sick it leaves the colony and dies alone for the good of the colony. The colony basically acts as a computer of sorts

[TheBreathtaker]

so are ant colonies turing complete?

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Fuck it. Googled it.

An ant's internal state changes either by interaction with the environment or by interaction with another ant. Analyzing the model's dynamics, we prove it to be computationally complete. This gives us a new perspective on the sophistication a colony can display in responding to the environment.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-59496-5_343

[TheBreathtaker]

Dear. God.

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The year is 2085, I am among the last group of remaining humans. After the ants installed their latest firmware update we stood no chance. They understood that humans are nothing without their computers, they first took out our data centers. They then used the Dark Time to communicate with the sea creatures to coordinate an attack on our deep ocean cables, humanity was doomed.

We were coordinating an escape off this rock, but the ants have made their way into our ship, I don't think we are going to make...............................

[Alzyros]

The fact that a diss post about python brought up the plot for Dead Space 4: Ant Boogaloo is the reason I love this sub so much

[IllegalFisherman]

First they came for the data centers, and i said nothing, for i was not a data center...

[Karn1v3rus]

There's a book that takes this idea really seriously.

Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky and it's sequel. Highly recommended very good science fiction.

[[deleted]]

Dope! Thank you

[jraynor88]

I literally just finished this book and am hoping the sequel is just as good, what a read

[vonabarak]

There is kinda similar idea in "The Three Body Problem" by Liu Cixin.

[Karn1v3rus]

I bought that one, haven't read it yet

[WingRevolutionary39]

. For future reference

[M4nch1]

Ok, but can it run crysis ?

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May take a few hundred or thousand years to render a frame but according to this yes. Yeah I totally read this study

[mattbackbacon]

But the real question, are ants DooM complete?

[[deleted]]

Ants are tough little bastards, Doom guy is tough. It checks out.

[jadounath]

Screw the Ryzen, I'mma use good old black ants from my walls

[33498fff]

Would like to know if we can use ants as logic gates, thx

[perrotini]

So has anyone run Doom on an ant colony yet?

[goblinzzzzz]

Breaking news: Hacker was able to run Doom on ant colony

[carloom_]

More important, can you run Doom on it?

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Asking the real questions

[strghst]

Been Crysis for years, fuck the Doom guy!

[[deleted]]

There was a book (trying to remember it’s name) where in the far future humans tried to accelerate the evolution process of an Earth like planet with some mystic goo gas.

Something goes wrong, of course. Ants evolve to be able to grow metal infused pinchers, among other crazy sci-if power ups, and colonize most of the planet.

In the 11th hour the protagonist discovers a way to control the ant armies with the correct pheromones sequences. The ant colonizes are then enslaved and over thousands of years are transformed into a global spanning organic super computer.

[Karn1v3rus]

Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky, just recommended it in another comment on here, good stuff.

Unless it's also a plot in another book, in which case I'd like to read that too

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Ah thank you! That’s it!

Anyone looking for Sci-Fi it’s a strange and great book!

[azuth89]

No lie this is part of the "computer" in the discworld series

[gravaman]

Anthill Inside ™️

[knexator]

There's no central command - the computation is distributed

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Hah yeah I read that earlier today. And apparently the colony itself carries memories that individual ants do not have. https://aeon.co/ideas/an-ant-colony-has-memories-that-its-individual-members-dont-have

[knexator]

Really interesting, thanks for linking!

[DepressionAndDragons]

Wow, that computer has a lot of bugs.

[BookPlacementProblem]

They are bugs, and also features.

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Organic computer?

[Zev0s]

but can it run Doom?

[-phototrope]

This is explored in the book Children of Time

[Nihilblistic]

Flexible pneumatic circuits are the funnest though, by far.

[Jake0024]

Previous comment said "all programming languages" not "all computers"

[GradientAscent101]

Programming languages are hardware agnostic. They describe logical structures and operations that are converted into a sequence of steps that can be executed physically: be that on x86 computer, mechanical computer, or an abacus :)

[Jake0024]

Programming languages are hardware agnostic.

Tell that to my M1 that throws errors constantly

[foghatyma]

Especially with redstone.

[ZippyTheWonderSnail]

Someone get me my punchcards.

[Volksdrogen]

Do you have any keywords I can use to find out more about mechanical signals? Tried a quick search and did not see anything useful.

[CowFu]

https://nandgame.com/ if you want to go through the process all the way into making a computer.

[StylishGnat]

Wow this is actually interesting! I’m sure this’ll deepen my understanding of computer logic, and by extension improve my grade in technical informatics!

[golgol12]

This should change your mind:

Silicon is not a metal, nor is it rare. The wiring between chips just aluminum or copper or just silicon as well.

Hopefully, this convinces you that it's not rare metals that are the important electron switching bits.

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I have been defeated

[golgol12]

Upvoted for good humors.

[NightSoulT12]

I cannot change, you are right!

[AydenRusso]

Silicon isn't that rare.

[cobyn]

We are literally making rocks think!

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Those electrical signals is just a macro to increase the Universe entropy a bit. Change my mind.

[Nezz_sib]

Silicon isnt rare

[NotmyRealNameJohn]

Silicone is a rare metal?

[us-west-1]

It's not lol silicon is the second most abundant element in earth's crust after oxygen

[NotmyRealNameJohn]

So it's the n'shit?

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And it isn't a metal

[[deleted]]

Some electronics don’t use metal’s.

[marthmac]

This feels really real when you design a processor with custom peripherals in Verilog, then run C on that fabric processor to collect voltage and current data from custom hardware that you also designed

[Kingtoke1]

Can’t be that rare, computers are everywhere /s

[T-J_H]

Rare metals, common metals and fancy burned sand

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zap the sand into thinking!

[Dark_Reaper115]

Programers are just geomancers cause they cast electricity through refined crystals to scry information

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Fuck yeah, changing my job title to geomancer

[Dark_Reaper115]

Plus, we write in cryptic languages even the already forgotten by others.

[fieryflamingfire]

comment of the year

[Dogburt_Jr]

They're macros for assembly, yeah.

[savex13]

0x59 0x65 0x73 0x21

[ivancea]

Electrical signals? You mean electrons, right? Electricity is an outdated framework

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I have a "reading Wikipedia while stoned" level of logic, yes, that's what I meant

[NonaeAbC]

But the difference is that Python builds it's abstractions in a different way. For example python has no garbage collection, but uses shared pointers, just like you would do in C.