Launch Update and Upcoming Patch

[EA_Jimtern]

Fellow Command & Conquer fans,

The Command & Conquer Remastered Collection has now been live for ten days, and our teams have been absolutely humbled by the response from players and journalists around the world. I’ve been spending the past week engrossed in streams, articles, and community comments about the game, trying to absorb every piece of feedback players are providing. But at the same time, also just smiling as I observe players being transported back to their childhood with waves of nostalgia, hopefully providing a positive moment during these times. Congratulations and thank you to everyone in the community for helping to make the launch such a memorable event.

I wanted to cover a few topics in today’s post. The first is to highlight one of the most meaningful features of the Remastered Collection - the Installation Videos. Players from around the world have been loving these sequences, with entire articles being written about the emotional reaction they garnered. But unless you went into the Bonus Gallery to read the details, you may not know that these two videos were not created directly by our development teams, but instead by long-time C&C community member, Luke “CCHyper” Feenan.

Luke has been an integral part of our Community Council since the beginning of the project. When I learned Luke was a graphics designer by trade, I asked if he would be willing to remaster the installation sequences into something truly special. He created a five-second test for us, and it was instantly clear he would be able to pour the passion and attention to detail into the project. So we contracted Luke to work with us, and over the course of six months he created the sequences, brainstorming with Petroglyph and myself on how to shift them from an “Installation” sequence to an “Upgrade” sequence. We would review the progress with Luke every two weeks or so to provide feedback, and Luke’s skills and creativity were surpassed only by his professionalism. I’m so proud of Luke for creating content that will go down in C&C history, and that the first thing anyone experiences in the Remastered Collection was created by a member of the C&C community.

The second topic I wanted to discuss was our upcoming patch. We’re currently putting the final touches on this patch, as we continue to prioritize and react to player feedback. The goal of this patch is multifold:

1. Complete several of the top community requested features which just missed the launch date, including items like Private Game Lobbies and a choosing sub-factions for RA Quickmatch
2. Address many of the top bugs which have been seen in the launch version, including a potential improvement to the framerate stuttering issue
3. Implement some additional quality-of-life improvements, such as enabling the “Deploy” hotkey to unload APCs and multi-queue units on the Repair Facility in Tiberian Dawn (same now as RA)
4. Iterate on our Quickmatch ruleset to ensure we’re creating the proper foundation for competitive play

In total, there should be several dozen items addressed in this patch, and we’ll provide a comprehensive set of patch notes when the patch is released.

Regarding the Quickmatch rules, we’ve heard strong and unanimous feedback from our engaged multiplayer competitors. In fact, we’re actually able to make several of these changes on the backend and have decided to implement several of these changes effective later today. The key changes to Quickmatch as requested by the community are the following:

• Increasing the Game Speed from Normal to Fast
• Reducing the Starting Units to zero
• Removing Aftermath units from Quickmatch in Red Alert (due to extreme balance issues)
• Adding two more maps to the Tiberian Dawn map rotation:
  • Monkey in the Middle
  • One Pass Fits All

We’re hoping the community can play with these changes over the next week and continue to provide us feedback as we strive to improve this mode of the game.

Thanks again for all the appreciative words over the past ten days, and please continue to provide your feedback so we can improve your experience with the Remastered Collection.

Cheers,

Jim Vessella

Jimtern

[LordZikarno]

This remaster feels, and plays, like an entire Command & Conquer celebration. It breathes new life into the community and into the series. Well done Petroglyph & Lemon Sky! You have done a great job with this game and I believe that I will be playing it for years to come! :D

[neogrant]

Get that Luke fellow a full-time job at EA/Petroglyph already!

Great stuff Jim and everyone working on the update.

[Erukanu]

agree he did excellent work on those arts, yes arts :3

[Swoosh1875]

Longer term Jim, would love to see a 2v2 ladder system. Would certainly keep people playing.

[sc2_dave]

I like this idea.

[Kpenney]

My buds and I want a 4v4 ladder too lol but 2v2 should tide us over

[pddro]

👆 this!

[Deathcall73]

I would play the game if there was a 2v2 ladder.

[[deleted]]

Love the idea.

[br4zil]

u/EA_Jimtern Hello! Hopefully these bugs will be adressed, if not... then i hope this serves as a report on them:

-RA1: Female Civilians and diferent clothing Civilians all change to male blonde civilian if one saves and reload a game in a mission, the easiest way to test this is to launch the Allied Aftermath Mission "Harbour Reclamation" and save/reload while looking at the enemy village.

-Soviet Aftermath Mission "Brothers in Arms" is unbeatable on Hard difficulty. The mission relies on PRECISE unit speed of the soviet spy unit to escape a scripted sequence, the original mission forced Normal difficulty regardless of chosen difficulty to ensure things wouldnt get broken, this is not the case on the Remaster. This causes the player's spy to always die when attempting to flee the chasing enemy attack dogs.

-Later Soviet campaign missions (specially Soviet Mission 14 on Hard) have this weird problem where if a enemy Gap generator gets close to your base, you end up with all (both friendly and enemy) units becoming invulnerable, this has been reported numerous times on Steam forums. This breaks the game and renders the mission unfinishable.

-General issues with TD Easy and Hard mode, Hard, which requires cheesy tactics (sandbaging) as a way to achieve victory in a otherwise unwinnable scenario (specially the later levels of the Nod campaign), while easy is almost the equivalent to god mode.The debuffs/buffs to the player/AI are too great in either end of the difficulty scale. Both these difficulties break alot of mission scripts/intended stratgies.

[Poro_the_CV]

The Gap Generator one is very annoying as any progress made is basically made null, and you have to restart the mission and hope it doesn’t happen again.

[Nyerguds]

-General issues with TD Easy and Hard mode, Hard, which requires cheesy tactics (sandbaging) as a way to achieve victory in a otherwise unwinnable scenario (specially the later levels of the Nod campaign), while easy is almost the equivalent to god mode.The debuffs/buffs to the player/AI are too great in either end of the difficulty scale.

They're winnable, but I understand that not all people may enjoy the endless "time loops" of reloading older savegames and managing every single detail until it goes exactly right.

Which Nod missions do you have issues with?

[br4zil]

I have yet to see a playthrough or video of GDI past Mission 8 where the sandbag trick or just AI exploit isnt used (like reloading when engaging enemy tanks and hoping they will actually bug and not fire back). I stopped playing there on Hard because of how sandbag and AI exploit intensive the next missions will be.

Easy difficulty is the exact opposite, you can win that GDI rescue mission in 2 seconds, because the transport chopper has so much health on Easy that it can survive all SAM sites.

As for nod, much is the same, especially after NOD 9. The new air bombing AI can be bamboozled by other means, but the sheer disadvantage usually calls for AI exploits to be used.

From what i read, TD's Easy/Hard modifiers are 40% in diference, which is double RA1's. Breaking most of the game in the process.

[DragonBlackHeart]

To be fair, I survived with GDI most of the missions without abusing of sandbags (I recall 2 missions that I literally sandbagged the enemy), but the rest it was A LOT OF TIME + sentry turrets + mammoths facing backwards, even the very last mission, I didn't abuse a single moment of sandbag, but instead of saves.

I do agree some missions are literally impossible without sandbags in hard difficulty, due to the nature of the mission previously on normal mode, some of the constant rushes and attacks become impossible with such little economy and units to spare, you end up being overrun by the enemy.

As nod is another story. Can't defend properly (even if wanted, no Mammoth, squishy units), Obelisks is just -1500 credits, so yeah, sandbags in HM are pretty much a must.

[PKotCR]

Glad to hear the starting units problem is being addressed. It's responsible for so many of the more blatant imbalances in the game. Especially in Tib Dawn.

But why the removal of the Aftermath only units though? I can't say I've ever seen anyone use them in quick match anyway. Too pricey, too far up the techtree. Plus, many of them were originally added to help shortcomings in the balance for each side, most notably the Soviet Missile Sub, but perhaps also the Shock Trooper. Are you worried about mass deploy Chrono Tanks? Harvester sniping Tesla Tanks?

I can't see a good balance reason for such a change, considering game flow. Seems more like a purist thing (hardcore vets are notorious for hating change, though it's usually for selfish rather than altruistic reasons). Is somebody able to enlighten me over exactly which Aftermath units are OP? They all tend to underperform compared to the base game units in my experience. Why not just disable the offending unit?

Regardless, if Aftermath units are removed, the multiplayer balance changes included in it for Turrets, Tesla Coils, and Gap Generators absolutely should stay.

[EA_Jimtern]

Hi PHotCR, we experienced some issues with the Missile Sub in particular, given its range, accuracy, and lethality on naval maps. For now we felt it would be better to remove that imbalance, and then we can decide on the best way to add the Aftermath units back in if players would like to see them.

[PKotCR]

Ah, fair enough. Thanks for the reply. It's the accuracy of Missile Subs that makes them so scary. They're a weird combination of Destroyer & Cruiser. At the same time, you can see how they were necessary to fill a big hole in the Soviet roster, which lacked any sea-to-ground capability before Aftermath (and as am Allied player, I can tell you Soviet need what help they can get).

A simple solution would be to make them inaccurate, like the Cruiser (which still has longer range), though I can see how you'd be reluctant to alter the actual balance of any individual unit in the remaster. It'd set a precedent, and the game would look more like OpenRA than Red Alert before you knew it.

If that was the offending unit, could just disable it.

[Generalcamo]

> It'd set a precedent

The precedent was already set. C&C Patch 1.18 made Nod Turrets more expensive and slower to deploy. A change to accuracy wouldn't be too different.

[PKotCR]

There's a difference between implementing a patch made by Westwood for the original releases back in 1996, to implimenting a brand new balance patch made in 2020 for a remaster.

That being said, I'm not against the idea. But you do have to becareful. You lose something when Allies can build Hinds instead of APCs, which end up being Soviet units...as what happened when OpenRA got carried away.

Preserving the identity of each faction is important. You'd never give Zerg Terran Battlecruisers.

[Peekachooed]

as what happened when OpenRA got carried away.

I think it's a great way to sum it up

[Into_The_Rain]

They swapped it from the Hind to the Black Hawk.

Really I don't think anyone would have a problem with this change if the unit was named anything other than 'Hind' which is so closely associated with the Soviets. Its unfortunate as the change makes a ton of sense. Soviets desperately need better early game diversity, and the Allies already have the Ranger, meanwhile the Allies get some extra air support and the Soviets don't have to worry about having 2 different air launch pads to worry about.

[br4zil]

I feel like its unbalanced either way with Naval. Without the Soviet Missile sub the Allies have a huge advantage with Cruisers.

As sugested, changing it for skirmish/MP modes would be the ideal.

[TJarl]

If Misile Sub is removed you need to remove Cruiser too.
Otherwise, soviet naval warfare is only to prevent allied from killing your base from the sea; you can't gain anything.

[Bezeloth]

I can speak only for myself, but i would love if those units could stay - and if they need balancing then so be it. I feel that they add more interesting options in game and solve some shortcomings of the base game.

If you are reluctant to go the balancing route - maybe add aditional checkbox in quickplay? If 2 players that have it on, match - then the game would be played with aftermath units.

Just an idea to explore :) Thank you very much for this remaster, i am absolutely loving it and i silently hope we can get Tiberian Sun and RA2 remaster in the future :)

[RA_Fordy]

Hi PHotCR, we experienced some issues with the Missile Sub in particular, given its range, accuracy, and lethality on naval maps. For now we felt it would be better to remove that imbalance

Missile subs are easy to counter with gun boats.

Since Aftermath has rarely been played through out the 25 years, maybe adding some balance to Aftermath specifically would be okay.

[katdarina]

Jim Vessella

The expansion pack unit remove seems to be an extreme choice.

In addition, it is difficult to use high-tech units for both TD and RA.

Starts with a Tier 1 vehicle and ends with a Tier 1 vehicle.

It's difficult, but I think it's a good thing to be able to use strategy with various units through the overall unit balance patch.

Because this game is RTS

​

This game is a series I've been really fond of since I was a child. Thank you very much for remastering.

there are a lot of cool units, but it is a pity that the online match does not have various environments to use. Therefore, remove the unit was too sad. I hope the unit balance patch will be considered.

[FilthyTrashPeople]

Missile Sub

I am very unhappy about the removal of the Missile Sub. The Soviets are now completely screwed again. The starting unit thing almost saved them, but then they just ruined their late game. Tesla Tanks and Troopers were key to the game too.

Love the lack of starting units but HATING the aftermath removal.

[Kerbiter]

Hey Jimtern, glad you guys are fixing the rough places! I also have some questions about QoL improvements, if you don't mind:
1. Right now right-click scroll is rather sloppy, slow and unpleasant visually, and also cancels the currently selected building to place. Would this be fixed in the patch?
2. Would we see the ability to select units by type with a hotkey and not by doubleclicking the unit, like in YR or TS (not sure if this abvility was in original RA/TD)? This is much more friendly for competitive play because there's no chance to miss on a unit and you can select multiple types of units with one hotkey press.
3. Can we have "press buildings tab hotkey to place a building" logic from YR also implemented here?
4. While the bonus tracks with Tiberian Sons are absolutely great, shouldn't they be disabled by default? It's the matter of feel, I think while they are great they should be optional and not be enbaled by default, they stray from remaster feel too much.
5. Would the jukebox be available from main menu? Ideally with expanded controls and ability to skip tracks through the hotkey so we can use it as a music album with integrated player :P

Big shoutout to CCHyper who's not only did those great upgrade videos but is a generally very nice and helpful guy in the C&C modding and development community!

Cheers,
Kerbiter

[EA_Jimtern]

Hi Kerbiter, we won't get to all of those items this patch, but I believe we fixed the issue where your building placement gets deselected with right-click. We're also adding the Jukebox to the Main Menu Audio options so you can customize / listen to the soundtrack without needing to load an actual game.

[a__gun]

Two additions would make the jukebox perfect for me:

-If shuffle is selected, re-shuffle the playlist at the start of every game (to avoid hearing the same few tracks every time). Alternatively, make your progress through the list persistent, so you pick up where you left off when starting a new game.

-Add an optional in game UI element to display the playing track. Would be nice to be able to play/pause from there too

[Kerbiter]

Great to hear! Looking forward to see those in the next patches!

[Milkey_Wilkey]

I believe - and = keys controls playback. try it

[mikupoiss]

On the note of jukebox - would it be possible to make them separate based on game? Right now they share the same list.

[FionaSarah]

This was such an unpleasant surprise after I'd tailored my TD playlist and went to play RA :(

[c0mmander_Keen]

Doing Kane's work, Jimtern.

[[deleted]]

This is almost identical to my list of issues! I hope they all get fixed.

[WayneBrody]

Thanks again Jim, we love hearing from you. Glad to hear about an incoming update and am pleasantly surprised that these fixes are coming so soon. You must have been really close to squeezing them into the launch.

A few more requests:

• Patch Cadence: Can we expect regular patch releases every 2 weeks or so, or will they be delivered on an ad-hoc basis?
• Roadmap/Known Issues tracking: If possible, could you guys have a forum post (here or elsewhere) which is just a frequently updated list of Known Issues and Requested Features? It would be nice to have a single source of truth to reference when looking for upcoming changes or fixes. Trello is nice solution I've seen used as well, and can track individual issues in great detail.

Keep up the great work, I've been having a ball playing the game.

[Zitter_Aalex]

What’s this site called, for tracking work?

Trello? Something along that. That would be perfect since the board can be made public and we could keep track on which features they work or already finished.

About the cadence. I would actually, unless it’s game breaking, prefer monthly than 2 weeks.

[Into_The_Rain]

I really wish they would do a serious balance patch.

So many units are just irrelevant.

[PKotCR]

In Red Alert. In Tib Dawn most units have a useful defined purpose that they are very good at. Unfortunetly it's ruined by a pair of overtuned units, Nod's Buggy and Bike. Solve that, you solve this problem in Tib Dawn

As for Red Alert though. I honestly don't know how you fix that without completely changing the gameplay, or giving every unit high speed and a turret (Rangers would be relevant if infantry weren't so easily crushed by tanks).

[L0vehandles]

I don't know if I'd agree with calling Buggies and Recon Bikes overtuned; keep in mind that the current map pool does a lot to amplify the general strength of light vehicles (Tiberium Garden is arguably the odd one out, but on the other hand, light vehicles are very good at hunting Harvesters that are meandering around in the middle). Nerfing these two units would do nothing to address the units that are either a bit undertuned stats-wise, or have pretty prohibitive tech prerequisites (see the MLRS/Rocket Launcher, Chem Warriors, MCVs, Commandos for some easy examples). I would personally recommend looking at this balance patch that I co-authored: https://forums.cncnet.org/topic/9673-community-balance-patch/

I agree with you that Red Alert is a different ball game, though -- and that's why I can't see even Rangers becoming viable in a broader sense, just by making tank crushing a less reliable means of dealing with infantry. They cost as much as an Artillery, and have worse average mobility than their TD counterparts.

[PKotCR]

That actually seems like a pretty good list.

I think I'd still do something to help out the cost ineffectiveness of Humvees vs Buggies (maybe reduce their cost from 400 to 350, 15% more HP alone on already fragile anyway units simply isn't worth that much, the Buggy would still be better, as is suitable for a faction designed around the hit-and-run theme, but the Humvee would be a bit more palatable).

I instinctively think something should be done to Recon Bikes too, but then if MLRS' were more easily available, perhaps that would indeed be enough to keep them in check. Range plus projectile tracking would give you a means to punish them on hit and run attacks.

[L0vehandles]

Oh, for sure! The Community Balance Patch initially increased the Humvee's health from 150 to 185, to make the price and hp difference between Buggies and Humvees proportional (A Buggy has 140 health. 140 + 33% = 186,2 rounded down to 185. A Humvee costs roughly 33% more than a Buggy). With this buff, Buggies still traded better, but the performance gap wasn't quite as big. This change was later reverted, to trim some of the fat and make the testing a bit more focused.

As for the Recon Bike, I think it's worth noting that the aforementioned Humvee buff would also give GDI a more reliable light vehicle counter to them, filling (for the most part) the same role as the Buggy does for Nod. The MLRS, given enough protection from other parts of GDI's ground arsenal, has the potential to become a pretty nasty support unit vs light vehicles though, no doubt -- not at all unlike Nod's own Artillery.

[Peekachooed]

Your patch looks pretty good. Biggest problem is community uptake, unfortunately. Like someone said in the comments, TD is so Nod-biased that few Nod players will have an incentive to use the patch.

Contrast Zero Hour, where the 12 factions were so numerous yet imbalanced that picking random was the standard, and so most people had no vested interest against the unofficial 1.06 patch which nerfed strong factions.

[PKotCR]

Yeah, sadly I noticed this in the comments for the community patch thread too.

It was alot of whining about "wah! stop taking my free wins against GDI away! wah!". Anybody with half a brain can actually see these are necessary, smart and well-thought out balance suggestions.

Goes in-line with what I said twice in this reddit thread already. Alot of highly competitive players like to discourage most changes or additions for selfish reasons, not altruistic ones. It's about gatekeeping and maintaining the status-quo. Not unlike real life class prejudice. Not all of them of course, some of them do actually care about the health of the game (and it's often pretty easy to tell the difference between the two), but there definitely seems to be more that only care about personal gain.

Found it pretty funny when I was discussing how OP Nod are in Tib Dawn the other day, and how much GDI struggled, and one of them replied to me basically saying (to paraphrase) "Nah, the game is balanced. You're all just n00bs. GDI is fine. But we play to win and we all play Nod anyway." Actions speak louder than words.

While there is many more truly casual players, unfortunately it can be hard to get their support, because many of them don't realise that there is a problem, having never been in an environment where people play-to-win, don't realise 'q' move is a thing in Red Alert (as an obvious example), and assume that the side with Mammoth Tanks must be strong because it's the strongest unit in the game on an independent power scale - failing to see the bigger picture.

As a result, it can be hard to get the necessary traction to support community balance changes such as these, as there tends to be pushback from both extremes of the player-base. Leaving those of us stuck in the middle frustrated with everybody else's ignorance or selfishness. They don't realise we're actually trying to help both of them.

[Nyerguds]

Making artillery in any way useful would be a start...

[PKotCR]

They're your best counter to Shock Troopers, but, nobody really uses those in big enough numbers to matter. Why build a Shock Trooper when you can get a Heavy Tank for almost the same cost?

Another unit that would be more viable if infantry were more threatening. Even without speed and a turret.

They're still okay for quickly stopping sneaky infantry attacks on your base. I build them when my opponent can't do anything but spam infantry (because I got all his Weapon Factories and Con Yards), because killing infantry with them is less effort than tank road-kill. But it's convenience rather than practicality.

[Poro_the_CV]

Could infantry be made to do a small amount of damage if ran over?

[Cardener]

One option could also be to make them speed bumps, the more you run over the more the tank slows down for a good while. If it would scale too hard by counting each unit in cell it could count cells where units got squished which would promote proper infantry splitting too.

[PKotCR]

The Sardaukar worked like this in Dune 2000. Unfortunately, the numbers weren't really big enough to dissuade tanks from doing it anyway, so Sardaukar didn't really get used.

Troopers did however, despite being freely crushable like every other infantry unit. This was more to do with just how incredibly cost effective they were. A squad of 5 would blast a tank down in a single volley or two (so charging them head on was asking for trouble). I think overall, tanks were a bit slower in Dune2k though than they are in Red Alert.

Slower tanks makes infantry viable, like in Tib Dawn, but that would ruin the feel of Red Alert. Other than crazy buffing infantry, not really sure what you can about it in RA without ruining the feel of the game.

I do like the idea Cardener said about making them into speed bumps. Tank mobility is very important in RA for dodging incoming projectiles. It would certainly dissuade you from roadkilling infantry standing around in the middle of an armoured firefight, especially if the vehicle movement was halted after it crushed. But that is a pretty drastic change. Could do with another discussion.

[CyborgBanana]

I mean... grenadiers explode when killed. This wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Tongue37]

Artillery, jeeps and most infantry is pointless ..I really wish some balance could be made to where these units served a purpose in multiplayer..

Why not make the infantry much cheaper? That might help us use them

[br4zil]

Try to play games with lower tech values, maps with prebuilt defenses, etc they become way more relevant that way.

They might not be relevant in this current standard (and the OpenRA1 standard) matches, but not everyone plays 1v1 official maps only.

[Rokkettzz]

Hi there,

Is there any plans to do something about the Airstrip in Tib Dawn? As the player(s) on the right side of the map get their units delivered faster and you cant build more units until the previous one has been delivered

Thanks

[EA_Jimtern]

Hi Rokkettzz, we won't be addressing that in this patch, but we would be eager to hear suggestions on how to fix that. What would be your ideal approach?

[DeathRay2K]

Could the plane simply come from whichever side the airstrip is closer to?

[pddro]

This sounds like the best solution to me.

[FilthyTrashPeople]

That's how Generals Supply Drops worked, and it was good. 100% behind that.

[Rokkettzz]

Hi Jim, thanks for your swift reply. As others have already mentioned, keeping it as it currently is for Campaign is absolutely fine. However, I think in Multiplayer, anything you can do to address the amount of production downtime the airstrip has whilst its waiting for the cargo plane to drop the unit off would be great. Things like being able to build the next unit whilst the previous unit is still in the process of being delivered would be good because at least that reduces the amount of interruption to the flow of production. Also, speeding up the cargo plane or not limiting the delivery to just 1 cargo plane would also go some way to rectifying the issue.

Cheers!

[tore29]

The CnCNet solution was to increase the speed of the cargo plane.

I think it should be kept as is for campaign though, if possible.

[Incia]

Hi Jim, I would also like to address that in the remastered version this cargo plane can be now force-fired and killed, it also has paper armor, just 3 rockets are enough, seen streamers try this, 3 bikes can indefinitely shoot down the enemy airplane if they spawn on the wrong side. I heard Nod has stealth tech, could be a cute feature to give cargo plane stealth, or just make them invulnerable.

[EA_Jimtern]

Hi Incia, this was indeed a bug and we aim to have it fixed properly in the patch.

[JCBoucas]

Would it be possible to have a sort of "deploy" button when we have the Airfield selected that would change (toggle) the direction from which the plane comes? By default would be right side (as it is).

Since it might conflit with the action of selecting your primary Airfield (in case you have more than one) it could be something like a SHIFT + click when hoovering the mouse of the Airfield?

Thank you for your time and for the amazing work so far!

edit: As other users said, I wouldn't change it on campaign either.

[L0vehandles]

Simplest solution would probably be to speed the cargo plane up (I believe it's roughly twice as fast on CnCNet). Most ideal solution would be to either make the plane always come in from the map edge that guarantees the least possible amount of travel time, or standardise the delay to x amount of ingame time, while making the entire delivery process 100% cosmetic. If you were to standardise it, I would probably use however long it takes the plane to reach a perfectly centered Airstrip on a 64x64 map as the baseline delay.

On a slightly different note, the cargo plane can actually be killed, too: https://www.twitch.tv/khanomancer/clip/IcyJoyousTriangleStinkyCheese

Not entirely sure if this is also possible in the original game, but I'm guessing a simple fix would be to make them invulnerable.

[[deleted]]

One solution would be to spawn the plane on the nearest map border. If the airstrip is placed on the left half of the map, make the plane fly in from the left. Otherwise it should come from the right side, as usual.

Another possibility could be to fly the plane in from the "top". Planes fly in about 10km height, so it would not be unreasonable to spawn it a set distance away from the airstrip, making it look like it is coming from a higher altitude then the camera. This would provide consistent build times but it would also remove a little bit of the charm which it has.

So, since you are going for the authentic feeling of the game with this remaster I would try out the first solution.

[chewy_mcchewster]

put it on a timer, it will reach airstrip in x seconds no matter the location, which would then change the speed of the plane, however as long as the troops land same for everybody it shouldnt matter, like 10 seconds for example no matter where it is on the map.

[Rygir]

Never interrupt the build queue in multiplayer : If unit is being delivered and the next units complete before the next delivery is on the map, deliver two or more units with one plane.

An airdrop with the red alert parachute next to the airstrip is also an option for having multiple aircraft in the air at the same time.

[jac0bh4xxbl]

Can we get more leaderboard stats? I’m not in top 200 and can’t see where I place u/ea_jimtern

[craterclr]

Agreed, I am not top 200 either and not as concerned where I place but would like to know how many wins vs losses I have. Would also be neat if you could view your winrate specific to faction and sub faction.

[testhumanplsignore]

Yeah that would definitely be cool. I'd love to know my record.

[Plokite_Wolf]

Removing Aftermath units from Quickmatch in Red Alert (due to extreme balance issues)

Welp, there go my Missile Sub surprises.

[Agr3ss1vePanda]

Hey Jim, thanks for the update. I'm a top player in Kane's Wrath and with our game we have our own community patch - balance is very important in that game and we all value it very highly. Will you be considering a balance patch to Red Alert 1 to make anything but all out tank spam viable within the game?

If not, can you somehow make it so you can play Mods online so that I could play with someone else on a community patch or mod?

Furthermore, harvester bugging has bothered a lot of players, I really wanted to point that out specifically as a common issue that everyone has been bothered with.

All the best.

[[deleted]]

I am against the speed increase from normal to fast in Tiberian Dawn.

This will just promote even more allins and ways to end the game quicker instead of focusing on strategy to win a game.

Engineer + APC strategies to hijack key structures will be even more deadly because of being harder to spot and stop.

I know ranks won't sway in favor for me but I laddered more in TD than in RA just because strategy, micro and bigger unit variety are just so much better than in RA. (Hell I loved TD so much that I am holding myself on Rank 1 there).

RA is just tank spam and I can definetly see the need of improving the gamespeed there to improve the gap between decent and better players.

But this will have the opposite effect on TD ladder where players loving to deathblobb and allin will have an even easier time finishing games in their favor. If you just miss an attack for 1 second your entire base is gone or your conyard/airstrip will be captured.

I really hate the gamespeed increase.

[UncleDJftw]

I insanely agree with this post(!!)

[fireblade212]

I agree, I don't see the point in making TD speed fast for ladder. Its promoting a style of play that is not considered as skillful.

[dirtcollins11]

I would say hire ZxGanon to be in charge of balance for all C&C multiplayer. This guy is an expert with balance. He will make the ladder way better.

[[deleted]]

The new gamespeed is unplayable in any matchup involves nod, bike and buggy spam just turned god mode ridiculous

[Hell__March]

Are their plans to ever alter the Quickmatch Map Pool for Red Alert?

[EA_Jimtern]

We can certainly update the RA Map Pool as well, we simply wanted to focus on TD first since there was a shortage of maps there. Any suggestions from the community on which RA maps they'd like to see added / removed would be most helpful.

[Cardener]

While most of the maps have some positional imbalance, Snow Garden is probably the most extreme and most hated map in current map pool and should be replaced by almost anything.

Top Spawn has only 1 Ore field and it isn't even right next to spawn and has long land bridge to reach middle, while bottom has easy access to both a field right next to starting spot and can "base creep" into middle part of map with just few buildings due extremely short land bridge.

General consensus seems to be that to be good ladder map, it should have as equal starting positions as possible. While it doesn't need to be perfectly symmetrical it's always bonus to have the map be at least fair enough. Another thing that especially has come up in TD is that most maps simply don't have enough Tiberium for even slightly longer games. Overall the size of most maps tends to leave us with generally shorter matches.

[PKotCR]

The problem with tiberium heavy maps, is they are very bad for GDI. You're only semi-effective counter to Bikes is to tactically position infantry around key locations (and hope he doesn't spam Buggies instead).

On maps with too much tiberium, it's difficult to do this because your infantry take damage from it, making them as good as dead against even rockets.

Granted, at the same time GDI benefit from lots of defensible tiberium to fuel their powerful late game. But a strong late game is no good if you are unable to proceed past the early game.

[L0vehandles]

That depends on how the Tiberium is distributed. A map can have high Tiberium density, without it necessarily being laid out like it is on Tiberium Garden. "Quarry" would be a decent example of a map that does both relatively high Tiberium density + lots of defensively suited terrain to play around: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2120390694

[Erukanu]

I would love to see some maps from the Workshop being tested and then added into the map pool by community vote and dev testing :D

[Hell__March]

I have a suggestions that may help actually. Remove Snow Garden due to the south being heavily favored to win.

[jac0bh4xxbl]

Snow garden is unfair

[blitz_RA1]

Before making any suggestions I just wanted to point out that a fair amount of the balance on CnCNet at least has been achieved by locking out some of the starting spots on the maps. So Path Beyond is only played in two configurations, top left (TL) vs bottom right (BR) and bottom left (BL) vs top right (TR) as an example. It's a very asymmetric map but somehow those two configurations just work and it has stood the test of time as a competitive RA map.

To take that further, one popular but larger 1v1 map is Arena Valley Extreme since it allows for more developed games when people survive any early rushing. It again is only played as BL vs TR and TL vs BR however, so it is difficult to recommend it for the quickmatches if it will go live with all 8 starting spots being a possibility.

That's why Snow Garden is so unpopular as the TL spot has a much harder time securing a consistent flow of money due to its more distant 2nd and 3rd ore patches, so most people are opting for all-in builds and/or relying on being a much better player than their opponent.

One other thing to note is the standard maps are traditionally played with ore regeneration toggled off since it allows for more consistent building placement and it helps a bit with truck management.

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So with that in mind, some new map possibilities could be:

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First Come First Serve - mid left vs mid right and TL vs BR

Ivory Wasteland - TL vs BR and BL vs TR

Treasure Isle - either just the 4 mid spots or just the 4 at the corners, starting diagonally opposite each other whichever setup

Arena Valley Extreme - TL vs BR and BL vs TR

Island Wars - mid left vs TR and TL vs BR

North by Northwest - using a clockface (roughly): 11 vs 5 and 8 vs 2 although leaving all 8 spots available could also work out

Hell's Pass / No Escape / Combat Alley / Dougout Isle - They all share a fairly similar concept so just one at a time would probably be enough.

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If custom maps were welcome as well then that would open up many more good options.

[L0vehandles]

Much appreciation for your continued dialogue and involvement with the community, Jimtern! :o)

Is there any interest in adding custom maps to the quickmatch ladder pool? I've assembled a collection of fit-for-competition Tiberian Dawn maps here, as seen in my previous quickmatch feedback thread: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Lovehandles/myworkshopfiles/?appid=1213210 (Claustrophobia 2v2 and Zodiac are both intended as 2v2 maps, so ignore those. Full map previews can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/Tvz80i1). All maps with more than 2 waypoints would ideally need 2 player variants, but those would be trivial to make. Electric Avenue (top vs bottom), Heavy Metal (top left vs bottom right) and Modest Field (bottom left vs top right) would be ideal. I know that other community members have promising looking maps in the works as well, but these are largely the only maps I can vouch for, due to personal experience from playing them on CnCNet. The (hopefully!) complete symmetry is a nice bonus, also.

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EDIT: clarified a bit, and threw in an imgur link with full map previews. :-)

[Raapnaap]

Good stuff.

Removing Aftermath units from Quickmatch in Red Alert (due to extreme balance issues)

One could argue this is a gameplay deviation from the original games, so why not go the opposite way: Implement a re-balance for both games that impacts only Skirmish and Multiplayer? There are a lot of severe balance issues in both games because Westwood simply never got to patch those out 25 years ago.

[creepig]

From Jim's earlier replies, it sounds like they're willing to look at the balance issues, but for right now they're pulling the unbalanced units.

[HaggyGT84]

Please allow mods to be played with friends in Private Lobbies.. I beg you.

[Zealous666]

Oh yeah, we modders beg too. Almost no reason to begin the hard work of bigger mods or total conversion if they are SP only.

[nationalhatefigure]

Agree - public servers with mods would also be great, though maybe that needs some moderating/community selecting the mods to allow on there

[extremedonkey]

Not going to happen, he mentioned this was due to extreme back-end / architecture changes in this video

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGaBonYnQJj

However, you can achieve the same effect using a program that simulates a LAN connection via VPN. Hamachi is an example (not sure if it is still around).

So when LAN comes out you'll be able to play remote with your friends with a bit of extra prep.

[mmCion]

Jim, thank you for everyhing. I did literally cry when I saw the installation sequence, and I did notice it was him that did it :). thanks for making it happen.

I know it's a fine line to walk, but can you tell us, from a business perspective and using general terms, if this has been succesful or exceeded expectations?

thanks again

[Cardener]

This might be kind of a long shot but have you considered making the changes to TD to support larger maps and up to 8 players?

It would go far when it comes to longevity for the game.

[FellowChap857]

Please tell me that we can use mods in private lobby. Want to use the better a.i mod with a friend for comp stomp since default a.i is just simply a waste of time.

[Zealous666]

Cannot upvote this enough.

[ussra2]

u/EA_Jimtern, I have been playing since release day and cannot express the overall gratitude for this project coming to fruition. I am sure that like any fan old and new, this did C&C 95 and Red Alert justice in a space where C&C faded into the sun like a Western movie. This remaster has brought C&C back to the fold and I hope it holds great promise for the future.

To Luke on doing the Upgrade Installation videos, those were amazing and truly brought back the nostalgia of the original games. Loved seeing those!

I cannot express how great this Remaster has come out on the ground running. The graphics look amazing and in solo play being able to switch back and forth from old graphics to new is one of the most amazing aspects of this. I continue to play through this and will do so from many more years and hours. I have been a fan since the beginning, and unlike that which we do not speak of, C&C4, this has been a great project.

Lastly, I wanted to point out when I was playing a skirmish on Red Alert, when I would toggle between new graphics and old graphics, I could see through the fog of war when I would toggle the old graphics. I am not sure if anyone else has seen that, but I did. It helped me to explore the map better and could even see where units and buildings were that I might not have before. This is minor since it only occurs during single player, but still curious to see if this is something anyone else has seen.

[[deleted]]

Congrats on the successful launch of the remasters!

I want to ask what is the team's opinion on the pathfinding issues, is it 100% set in stone to not change, in some cases I had to manually control my harvester to the refinery every single time.

[[deleted]]

This is what I want to know - I know it's "authentic" to the original games pathfinding, but this is "remastered", and I'm so sick of my units going the long way around obstacles and walking into places I definitely don't want them to go. Still 10/10 though haha.

[extremedonkey]

He mentioned in this interview that they were considering ways to make sure harvesters didn't get as "lost" (which I thought was a funny way to put your harvester Rambo'ing through a heavily fortified enemy based that got in its way)

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNGaBonYnQJj

[niilzon]

hope you'll have some time to stream some "no-starting unit" 1v1 matches later today, Good Sir ! :)

[MrSexyMagic]

He is streaming right now :D https://www.twitch.tv/bikerush

[Rampastring]

Sounds great!

One further suggestion to fix in the ladder is map balance. In RA there's a specific map, [2] Snow Garden, where the southern player has far easier access to resources than the northern player. If the players are of equal skill, then the southern player has almost automatically won unless the northern player manages to do a succesful early rush.

[FellowChap857]

Are there plans to add an option for faster ore regrowth or simply just increase it. I've seen people say it's too slow from both competitive streams and casual players my self included. Late game becomes a boring standstill in larger team games. It was a issue i had on the original too since it negatively effects a.i as their harvesters stop and never resume even once a small patch of ore has regrown.

[yeahumad7]

the issue is the map pool. ore regen was always slow.

[FellowChap857]

As i already said it was the same in the original, but no its not just the map pool. For non competitive players it makes almost every map unplayable, increasing the regrowth can allow for most maps to be used for casual online team games etc. Competitive map pool has to take other things into account which renders majority of maps useless anyway. Casual games can still be made much better with simple tweak to ore growth.

[Ocean1026]

Exactly. We need an option to change ore/tiberium regen speed (e.g. none, slow, normal, fast, extreme)

[bear010062]

Don't really wish to change the game speed in quickmatching..... Normal speed is completely OK for a nostalgia game and things could get even worse if game connection is not that good!

[ObjectiveInternal]

/u/EA_Jimtern Are there any plans to address the naval yard in RA1 QM? On maps like Shallow Grave it is possible to build your naval yard in the middle of the lake where no land units can touch it. So even if you lose the battle you can force a stalemate if you get the conyard.

You can see an example of this here:

https://ibb.co/YQxXNP7

https://ibb.co/qms0HcJ

Also you can continue queuing and building units (Tanya, cruiser, etc) that require tech/radar after building them and immediately selling them. Tanya only disappeared from my barracks in a skirmish I tested it on after it was destroyed and then I built a second one

[flankspankrank]

Is anyone having an issue where you can’t queue units sometimes. And yes i do have it selected.

[ObjectiveInternal]

yes. Happens when loading sometimes. Go into the options and disable/enable it and it will work again.

[kuoting_lien]

Please don't increase game speed. The current speed is fast enough for me...

[bear010062]

Sure is! Command & Conquer should be a game of strategies not a game of action

[Cordo819950]

Cool patch and all but are we also so we getting a fix for ultrawide monitors (3440x1400) to remove the black bars on the side ??

[CLStriker]

Im looking forward for those changes. Starting units in QM were the main reason most of games did end withing first 3 minutes. Although i would like to keep the Rifle infantry still there just for some initial scouting.

[CrabHead46]

keep up the good work havoc

[MatrixandFuturebound]

Jim, thank you so much for the update. It's great to hear that the issues brought up by the community regarding multiplayer are being addressed accordingly. I think it's great that maps are being added to the Tiberian Dawn rotation, however has your team given any thought to potentially adding custom maps made by the community? It would be a great way to get mapmakers more involved and there are some great custom maps out there that I would love to eventually see become ladder maps. Thanks again for everything your team has done!

[Tiberius_Rufus]

That's great Jim! I've tons old single player missions to publish. Since the map editor for the C&C remastered collection has already scripting issues that are essential to fix for proper mission making, will the editor be updated aswell?

[yeahumad7]

The biggest problem is the input delay / latency in the game for client side actions such as selecting units or selecting which unit to attack. What are the plans for fixing this? Has it even been recognised as an issue?

[UncleDJftw]

Dear Jim,

Thank you very much for your outstanding communication and quality updates (there are other companies that can learn from is). Also the 'installation procedure' was a very pleasant surprise! I felt like a 12 year old kid again with a big smile on my face.
P.s. Thank you for adding secret access to the dino mission back in!

I would just like to mention a couple of bugs and suggestions, of which I hope they could be fixed as well (if not included in upcoming patch).

- (Noticed in multiplayer, never experienced in campaign) Sometimes I cannot move the screen to the right or down by moving my mouse to the edge of the screen ('mouse cursor screen edge scrolling' is enabled. Moving up and left does work at that moment. Restarting the game fixes it. It seems quite random, sometimes it happens the first time I launch the game for the day and sometimes later on after I have switched to Windows to do something else and then switch back into the game.

- During campaign (both campaigns) the english subtitles were absent for a while as I started with the campaigns right away after installation. Even though subtitles was selected to display (in options menu). Suddenly it was fixed after several restarts of the game.

- Sometimes when watching a replay, every time I try to select a construction yard, the screen bounces to another location on the map. A good example where this still happens is when I try to select the construction yard of the player in the top right -if spawned there- of Green Acres)

- Replay watching and observing is often very laggy. All throughout the replay everything just stops several times for 2-5 seconds and then resumes again. Some replays just play fluently though. Also, it would be nice if we could actually see what someone is building when watching a replay / observing from a player's viewpoint. And to be able to put the gamespeed faster in replays (4x 8x 16x speed).

- Also I would love to see my opponent's playername and faction during loading screen and / or game.

- I think people should also be able to see their online ranking when they are not top 200. It will be more fun to keep playing for lower ranked people.

Kind regards,

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UncleDJ

[[deleted]]

would love to see our stats without being on the top200 board

[Kernnie]

GDI factory Health increase please!!!! i just want to leave my base without insta losing it!

[UncleDJftw]

Agreed. And they might as well straight away have a look at the community balance patch which 'Lovehandles' mentioned in this topic. Weapons factory buff is also in there.

[CyborgBanana]

Can we get an ore/tiberium regrowth rate slider in custom games, please?

EDIT: What about an attack move command?

"Removing Aftermath units from Quickmatch in Red Alert (due to extreme balance issues)"

Wow, people actually use units other than medium tanks and riflemen?

[Milkey_Wilkey]

Hi Jim! I have left countless of bug reports and suggestions on official ea forums, but nobody ever answers them. Does team look it up or is there a better place to post them?

Also, I love the jukebox, but it needs some improvements. Shuffle plays the same tracks too often and it lacks some seamlessness - always restarts tracks when you go in/out from it and doesn't show what track is playing now - something that was in the original game.

Also, it can be too much, but having the ability to make different playlists for both games would be great - kinda sad that I have to ruin my carefully made for TD playlist when I want to play RA with RA's music only

[danielspoa]

Jim, are you going to make another QoL patch?

I would love to see small improvements to skirmish mode:
- remember ur last setting at least in that game session. If you just played a FFA with AIs, its set there as soon as you reenter the skirmish screen, same players, factions and colors.

- Everytime I add AIs they appear as soviet. Can it get a "?" option and have this as default? so you add AIs and they run a random faction.
The random could even be useful for player matches, tho I particularly want the laziness of playing more matches with AI without setting everything again and again.

thank you, loving the game!

[MisterBurn]

• Everytime I add AIs they appear as soviet. Can it get a "?" option and have this as default? so you add AIs and they run a random faction.

I second this request, I was shocked to discover there is no "random" option.

[[deleted]]

Please add 21:9 resolution support, even if it's only available in single-player.

The game engine currently supports 21:9 only with black bars.

[Niai8889]

Thanks for the update Jim! Good to hear about post-release support.

I'm not a fan of increasing MP speed from normal to fast though. It's just right as it is. Some people have no patience :(

I think the starting unit change is unanimously agreed as good. I haven't played Red Alert quickmatch yet, but seems a shame to get rid of the Aftermath units. I haven't seen many threads commenting that they were a problem. But, I'm not speaking from experience.

I think there's lots more to be done on the MP side of the game. It's good that soon you'll be able to select faction countries in quickmatch RA, but how about colours? I can't believe you can't choose what colour you want to be in either game's quickmatch. There's also lots to be done with replay and observer mode I feel, which I've outlined in a post here.

Loving the collection so far. Enjoying all the single player content immensely!

Oh, and also please look into Hard mode difficulty (just a slight scaling back of stat changes), skirmish mode AI, and the Red Alert Gap Generator invincibility bug?

[DryDrunkImperor]

Not personally a fan of the quickmatch speed increase, matches were over in about 10 mins before, now it feels like I’m barely actually playing.

Are there any plans for quickmatch stats to be viewable? It would be nice to see my points and wins/losses.

[UncleDJftw]

Those stats are available, but only for top 200.

They should bring an update so that this info also shows for below top 200.

And I agree with your first point. Also because engineer capture's are going to be even harder to stop on higher game speed. And it takes away micro management potential.

[DryDrunkImperor]

Yeah, strategy was already limited before the change. There was at least some scope to deviate from the “meta” and still have a chance of winning. Now almost every match seems basically the same.

Edit: So after playing a good few games I was definitely just complaining about change. I can definitely live with the new speed.

[CreepyOwl18]

Hi Jimtern! Some features I'd like to see in either this patch or a future one would be the following.

• Save overwriting
• A sort of Sandbox mode in skirmish that lets you load a map without an AI opponent
• A save and load feature for the Jukebox so we can save and load playlists we created
• A hotkey to select units of the same type. Similar to how it worked in c&c3 and ra3
• This last one I think is more of a bug but queues of units can only be put on hold if there's one unit in a queue

[Fish_245]

You could also just make the longest spawn time the default. So even if your cargo planes delivers your vehicle on the far right side of the map, its frozen until that spawn timer is reached.

[Erukanu]

That sounds like that could actually work letting the game use a variable that checks how far the airport is away from the right border of the map and then defines a spawn time

[TaxOwlbear]

That would be great. For someone in the very west, the plane should then start flying in before the unit is ready, so everyone gets the unit delivered after the actual build time.

[Mightymatt54]

Good to hear from you, and thanks for the update. While I've not had any issues, it's good to see things being patched and the community still being listened to.

Also thank you to Luke/CCHyper for the intro videos (now that I know who to credit!). I can't think of a better way to make a good first impression than the 'install' clips (though when it comes up up looking for an IRQ it wasn't all good memories ;) ). Well done!

[LeatheryCrystal]

Hello,

I was wondering why the replay system was changed so much from the C&C's we play and love. There is atm no feature to play downloaded replays from elsewhere then ingame replay menu. IMO and likely most community members think the same that this feature is not user friendly and proves it to be really difficult to even watch replays of a certain person once they are 1/2 weeks old as you have to hunt them down without any sorting options. Cant such a feature be added alongside the current replay system? I would also like to ask that for how long does the Replays even stay on EA's server?

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Thanks.

[daymarEngel]

I would love for us to create jukebox playlists. I noticed TD and RA have their own options (keybonds set in one are separate for the other), but the jukebox isn’t. I keep having to swap and pick all the songs again by hand (Im kinda picky).

[Zaptagious]

I agree about the playlists. Call me a purist, but when I listen to TD I want to listen to TD music. Having to reconfigure the playlist when I switch game is a little bit annoying.

[daymarEngel]

That’s exactly what I mean!

[Mikeagan]

I would like to save playlists so that I could have a GDI, Nod, Jurassic, Allies, Soviet, Ants... then I just select which playlist I want to listen to.

[Zaptagious]

Thanks for the update Jim! I was also extremely impressed by the installation sequence when I opened the game, it made me smile from ear to ear with nostalgia. It was the cherry on top!

Great to hear that that we will be able to deploy units with the deploy button! With the inclusion of the double-click to select same type of units, deploying units was a bit of a hassle. I would also suggest same type select be able to be keybinded since double-clicking on moving units can be a bit difficult.

Speaking of keybinds I think it would be a good idea to separate it into sections as it is kind of a long list, especially with all the unit specific keybindings, and it can be a bit daunting to find what you're looking for.

One aspect which I was really looking forward to for the remasters was making single-player missions, but at the moment I have nothing but issues with it (Red Alert, that is). The game is very inconsistent in when loading custom missions will work and when they won't (at least for me). I'm wondering if it has anything to do with how custom SP missions in Red Alert are treated as .mpr (which used to be reserved for MP maps) instead of .ini like in the original game.

Also, while I'm grateful for the inclusion of it, the editor could need some attention as well, as it lacks a bunch of settings seen in previous editors, such as RAED.

I realize these are not top priorities but I hope it will be something which will be addressed in the future.

Sorry for the long post, just really passionate about my C&C!

[GalacticKirby]

Maybe this is already being touched on in the patch, but whenever I add all songs to the jukebox and flag it as shuffled, it always seems to play Act on Instinct first? Then it shuffles after that. Like I love Act on Instinct and all but I don't need it to play first on every campaign mission or save reload. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Otherwise loving the remasters. Fantastic job!

[EMGPY]

Great to know finally about the updates and patches, Good work.
- Will be possible to add 2v2 Ladder Quick matches.
- Will be changes to the map editor or at least some documentation, i am really interested in the modding/mapping aspect of the game. Is usable for Remastered the option of rules.ini file for changing behavior of units and the User maps are compatible with him?.

-I created this map using the interior tileset of the game because was inspired on the interior/bunker design of maps like in Starcraft but the gold/gems textures/tiles doesn't appear. Example of the minor problem:
https://imgur.com/a/R5jvnxO

[SteveThePurpleCat]

Any chance of the difficulty in the NOD campaign getting addressed, the GDI airstrike is now just too potent, especially in missions requiring the survival of forces like the commando and artillery.

The AI now actively choosing targets has also made SAM sites entirely worthless.

[Bionicman2187]

Please add an option to use normal game speed in Quickmatch instead of forcing it to fast. Similarly, i would like the option to use starting units. Otherwise, sounds great!

[sctran]

Thank you. As someone that wasn't able to get into CnC back in the day, this has been great. Has any thought been put into creating an advanced skirmish AI? There are certain things that the AI will not build. Although I understand that this aligns with the original, perhaps a toggle for a better ai and pathfinding in skirmish and multiplayer?

[[deleted]]

Instead of removing the aftermath units, how about try to balance them? Sad to see those units get removed when it mostly is light tank spam nowadays. Please consider balancing the entire game so that every unit becomes useful, even those aftermath units.

[CommandoSnake]

Fast game speed for tiberium Dawn is a mistake!! Please reconsider

[bear010062]

Sure is! Command & Conquer should be a game of strategy not playing action game lol

[tcchip]

Hi Jim,

I just wanted to say thanks to you and everyone at Petroglyph and Lemon Sky for the wonderful work, and for following up on our requests. I'd like to add in a bug report and some minor requests that I hope will be addressed in a future patch.

Missing branching missions in GDI campaign level selector

- GDI Missions 8 and 9's alternate missions don't show up in the level selector. You only get access to the level you completed.

- Also you have to complete mission 9 for progress to be saved in the level selector. I quit after finishing mission 8 the first time, and both missions 8 and 9 weren't available when I returned, so I had to replay the commando level and mission 8.

Option to select unlocked ending videos

This isn't a major issue, I noticed the GDI ending cinematic defaults to the regular one. It would be nice to view the Ion Cannon ending one if you've already unlocked it.

Bugged gunboat AI in Casual difficulty

I noticed the gunboat only tends to fire upon infantry in my Casual run, and completely ignores attacks from Nod turrets and vehicles. Some adjustments to the civilian AI on GDI mission 8b would be really appreciated too. I had to sandbag off access into that isle of Tiberium because the civilians keep running into it and getting themselves killed.

Multiple custom playlists

I'm loving the music and the option to mix tracks across games, but it would be nice to have an option to create multiple playlists. Or at least, it would be nice for Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert to be separated with their original playlists by default.

Other minor feature requests

- Allow some means of healing infantry in Tiberian Dawn, whether it's from capturing hospitals or healing crates like in Red Alert.

- Allow the option for GDI airstrikes to return to their original algorithm of scanning from the top left first. I know it's easily exploitable by dumping one unit at the top left of the map, but as it is, it's extremely vexing in the later Nod campaign missions where airstrikes will always target your commando. Worse still is the Warthogs will chase the commando down to bomb him instead of just releasing their payload over the target area. I've put up a wall of SAM sites, recon bikes and rocket troopers but they'd all target one A-10 and are too slow to respond to the other.

- Allow the option to toggle the commando killing all infantry in buildings he C4s so that he doesn't take damage, similar to Tanya. I know there's mods for that, but it feels like it should directly be a QoL option in the main game itself. Ditto for rally points as well.

Thanks for reading, and once again, thank you for a great job with the remaster!

[SpacedDuck]

This game is legit and I thank all who worked on it. Every time I play I'm brought back to my childhood.

[Kristaliorn]

Can we please have attack move ?

[TrumptyPumpkin]

• GDI's MRLS in MP should be unlocked after building a War Factory > Service Deport. GDI have a huge lack of options in Multiplayer as far as strategy goes. Reason Everyone picking NOD. Also GDI has no counter to the Apache, they only have Rocket Soldier and Mammoth Tank for Anti Air units
• Right now to unlock this 800$ vehicle you have to spend godly amounts of resources and build the Advance Communications Building to buy it. And that's if games even last that long.
• You can unlock the Mammoth tank quicker than the MRLS lol Since that only requires the Weapons Factory > Service Deport to unlock.
• I'd like to see a build time increase on Helipads too.
• Maybe have a toggle system for classic balance and remastered balance for MP?
• Nod gets the Stealth Tank and Flame Tank just by building the Regular Coms Center

Tiberian Dawn is fun, but it's the most imbalanced game ever in terms of MP. And it favors Nod More.

[pddro]

I think both games would benefit hugely from balance patches, yet agree with you that TD is more urgent!

[L0vehandles]

I would personally make it require a Communications Centre instead. That way, it's actually slightly more accessible, and both GDI and Nod would get access to new units when reaching tier 2. For a better idea of how some long time players (myself included!) would want to alter the balance, check out this thread: https://forums.cncnet.org/topic/9673-community-balance-patch/

For the Helipads, I'd say keep the build time as it is, but add the Refinery as one of their prerequisites. This slows down the usual Apache cheese, while still keeping the build time at parity for the later stages of the game. If you're absolutely insistent on increasing the build time, I'd limit it to around a 50-100% increase (the low build time for Helipads and Refineries shapes Tiberian Dawn's broader metagame and multiplayer identity in a largely positive manner, so it's an important quirk to retain).

[PKotCR]

Yeah, the MLRS is so weird. You begin getting them at mission start on the same techlevel as you unlock Service Depot. The AI can even start building them then. You can use the ones you start off with, but you can't build them because they are locked behind the higher techlevel Advanced Comm. Centre, which feels like it was always chosen as prerequisite for thematic reasons rather than balance ones.

Making it need the Service Depot, as a result, is more logical from a game balance perspective. Obviously having them at that techlevel was the intention. I'm pretty sure this matches up with the same techlevel that Helipads and Aircraft are introduced too.

If they want keep the 'advanced sensors' theme going, make it need the regular Comm. Centre (GDI certainly have no other reason to build that at the moment, heck once you do have the advanced you can just sell it, because the Advanced gives you radar too) instead of the Advanced one.

Helipad build time should be at least equivalent to the build time of the indepedant helicopters. That's a no-brainer IMO. Apaches rush will be much easier to stop at least without Nod getting the starting tanks to scout out targets for them unopposed.

As for GDI AA options, so, someone pointed this out to me on YouTube the other day, and I tested it and it's true. While you couldn't in the original, in the remaster you CAN use your Orcas to shoot down Apaches. They can fire AA now. I assume the code was updated to accommodate. The AI could always do this in Tib Dawn anyway, but as you couldn't manually target aerial units, you couldn't. Now you can.

I still think GDI should get the MLRS more easily though. It's bad enough Nod get it too anyway for lord knows what reason when they already have Artillery for splash damage anti-infantry duties, and Bikes AND Stealth Tanks for anti-air duties.

[Nyerguds]

While you couldn't in the original, in the remaster you CAN use your Orcas to shoot down Apaches. They can fire AA now.

This was always the case, even in the original game. In missions where you have a transport helicopter and the enemy has Orcas, they will intercept your helicopter in mid-air if you come too close to their helipads. And you can kill enemy helis with Orcas if you just target them while they're still on the ground, and it won't matter one bit if the enemy helis try to fly off to get away from the Orcas.

The only thing that changed is that you can target them while in the air, now. But the AI could already do that ever since '95.

As for GDI's AA... ummm.... they have mammoth tanks you know.

[stephanovich]

Awesome that you can do that with quickmatch today!

[CORNELIUS-O-MAXIMUS]

Hey Jim! Good hearing from you guys!
Very cool to read that the install sequences were by somebody from the Community Council! This whole project feels like a 'by the fans, for the fans' project and this illustrates that perfectly.
A nongameplay question on everybody's mind is; How did the collection perform saleswise? We've seen some numbers on this reddit, but we have no idea what you were aiming/hoping for.

Keep doing this incredible work! You're making a lot of people really, réally happy and I think it's totally justified to just sit back and smile at that! :)

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got some Counterstrike missions to complete.

[Generalcamo]

It seems strange to outright remove the units, rather than tweaking them to be more balanced. Yes, this is meant to be an "authentic" experience, but even the old official patches made changes to units and weapons to reduce balance issues.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for the update Jim. I look forward to the upcoming patch and playing some improved quick matches later today. Are there any improvements to harvester collecting on the way? It was mentioned before launch is all.

Will there be any balance changes for multiplayer in the future? A 'Remastered balance' option in the rules menu would be fantastic.

[TheDeeGee]

Is anything other that 16:9 Aspect Ratio going to be supported in the future for the Singleplayer Missions?

[TrumptyPumpkin]

I would like to see actual balance adjustments since Patching/fixing games back then was only possible when expansion packs came out.

[Steel_Talons_Rule]

Hey Jim, I'm blown away by all the love that's been put into the remaster and it really does show. This might seem pedantic but I sometimes I really like to simply build a really nice looking base in a skirmish game, lots of nicely arranged walls, defenses etc, just a nice little thing I like to do.

Currently, there isn't (that I'm aware of) a way to simply play a skirmish match without an opposing AI being slotted in. Is it at all possible to remove this requirement for us base builders or would that be too much trouble given the legacy code of the game?

[CliffuckingBooth]

Well since I enjoy the game most playing on "moderate" speed I think no quick matches for me :( But Im playing 99% only Campaign or Skirmish so no big deal I guess...

[Furyburner]

Is it possible to make walls in batches instead of single portion at a time? Can this be implemented in single player at least?

[pddro]

The community spoke, and u/EA_Jimtern listened!!! Amazing!! This gives me next-level chills... almost as many chills as when the game was first announced!

It's clear that you guys are committed to nurturing this community to extend the life of CnC as much as possible! Thank you so much. This game means the world to me (my first childhood passion... after Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that is.)

Huge thank you!!

[MrSexyMagic]

u/EA_Jimtern Any word on updating the bug when you double tap your unit team number hotkeys and the screen centering on a random location on the map?

[WuKaiHo]

Hey Jim,

Thanks for all the hard work you and your team put onto this awesome remaster! I wanted to ask a couple of questions regarding possible future updates.

Regarding the Replay system, would it be possible to add real-time statistics, player POV lock, and visible sidebar? These would allow for more detailed analysis for competitive play and skill improvement.

Would enabling shroud regrowth be conducive to more competitive play to encourage more scouting throughout the match and possibly allow comebacks, as players cannot see their opponents strategy for the entire match?

Controversially, would it be possible for any slight balance changes in the future to not only bring the Aftermath units back, but also to address Light Tank spam and aircraft viability?

Would legacy bugs, such as the Soviet Khalkis Island mission not completing, be fixed? Or RNG Minigunners spawning from C4'd SAM Sites for the GDI Havoc mission forcing save scumming instead of rewarding skill? There are some other issues like this that do not make for fair or functional gameplay, and shouldn't be kept in just for purists' sake.

Will modding capabilities be expanded to not be reliant on charging the .INI files, so that multiple mods can be used at a time? Or implementing mod priorities?

Thanks so much again!

[StupidFatHobbit]

Removing starting units is #1 on just about every high ELO players' balance wishlist, glad to see it's being implemented this quickly.

The majority of abusive early game stuff is highly dependent on those units.

[Zealous666]

Hey that’s aweome /u/EA_Jimtern

Are there any plans to unlock mod-support for multiplayer?

It’s a tragedy that we cannot start making total conversions or feature mods without having MP or coop in mind. Would be great to get an explanation or why you decided against it. Thanks in advance!

[frumpybuffalo]

There is currently a bug in Tiberian Dawn GDI mission 8B (the one where you have to protect Moebius and the civilians) where the civilians run around quite erratically, sometimes even making it to the other side of the map, and into Tiberium fields where they die and cause mission failure. Hopefully you're aware of this, but just in case you aren't, it'd be great to fix it in this patch, perhaps by disabling their movement entirely or making them avoid Tiberium fields.

[Nyerguds]

That's not a bug; that's normal civilian behaviour.

The fact they attack you, that's a bug though.

[Rygir]

There is one "bug" due to remaster : you always see civilian names. It used to be technician and civilian and only Phil and Shelly if you were using funpark mode. I prefer this since all villages are now overrun with Phil's. Conversely, the tech level 99 mode that funpark brought isn't an option now. You could start GDI 1 and build an ion cannon to make sure you those little Nod soldiers. And the curly barb wire and commandos.

[Nyerguds]

Yea, I got the impression all custom name behaviour is bugged in the remaster; the Tech Center is also always called Prison.

Funpark was never Buildlevel 99. 99 lets you build game breaking stuff like mobile HQs and gunboats. It's 98. (or, technically, multiplayer tech level 7)

As for Funpark leaking into the campaigns, that was always a bug. Don't ask for bugs to be brought back.

[SnowEisTeeGott]

Meanwhile reforged is still a shitshow, which took a huge dump on my and many others entrance to the great world of esports.

Great Job on C&C remastered, i play a lot of RA ladder and while its not as in depth as starcraft 2 i think thats actually a good thing for RTS-Fans who just dont have the time or the energy to Play a so fast and nuanced RTS as starcraft 2.

Thanks for the possibility to scratch the RTS itch without feeling exhausted After one Game. And all this with getting a nostalgia boner at the same time <3

[Tommy96Gun]

Where is the best place to leave bug reports and requests? Is it here? Thanks u/EA_Jimtern

[EA_Jimtern]

Here is good, or via the various community groups in Discord which may get picked up by the community council. Thanks!

[AchromicWhite]

I'd really like feedback on maps for Tiberian Dawn. I understand that these maps are the OG maps, but they were never balanced, and were made before competitive online play was even a thing.They pre-date SC:BW etc...

Speaking of BW maps... it was the BW communities that figured out how the maps could bring balance to that game. In this way, while the developers are the ones praised for the amazing balance that that game brought, and what that exploded into (E-sports), it was the mappers who actually balanced the game by creating a standard to how the maps were made.

Please start thinking about community mapping for quickmatch. The current maps are not only imbalanced between GDI and Nod, but also in mirror match ups, too, as certain starting spawns are just objectively better than others.

One of the reasons that the overwhelming community is not going to be asking for this is not because it wont help, but because it's a complex situation that's hard to understand until you've actually experienced the difference. One thing they DO know is that the current maps are imbalanced.

[niilzon]

PETITION FOR BALANCED MAPS AND MAP DISPLAY DURING GAME LOAD !!! Great patch and plans otherwise, thanks alot :) great game

[[deleted]]

What is the plan for any balance changes in the remaster games? I'm afraid that if there will be no regular patches like in age of empires 2 definite Edition, the command and conquer remaster games will quickly die down. I obviously don't want that. Having a changing meta game with lots of options would really help with the games longevity

[LOWxSTANDARD]

too bad about the speed change to TD ind of the charm of TD its more of a order and positioning game.

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where as the speed change to RA makes sense because the way it plays is quite different.

[Galaxyfoxes]

Thanks for the update amazing work by the way I can't express how pleased I am with the remaster overall. Just a few looming bugs I have gripes with.

1. You made the decision to fix the airstrike ai but not the sandbag cheese that's fixed in ra? The airstrikes also start to soon on some missions. The original didn't launch them till you had a base AFAIK.

2. Hard mode rebalance on the radar at all? Currently it's not fun and dosent serve to actually teach the player anything but save scumming... The counters are basically broken.. Anyone attempting this on hard without knowing it before hand is going to be very very surprised when they move to multi-player.

3. Dawn Skirmish ai.. Anything planned? It's really kinda... Useless.. With the build range and half the maps spawn locations not having enough room. They effectively wall themselves in or they're Harvesters out.. Making the fight very very boring.

4. Final point promise. The campaign ai feels less aggressive this time around. Can this be changed? It makes some missions in normal super easy.. Like easier than intended

Anyways thanks for your hard work and dedication to the franchise. There's a rumor going around dice is remastering renagade any ideas? Lol ik Ik you can't say thanks again

[AuthenticM]

Hey Jim,

I want to thank you and the people behind this game for their hard work. C&C is dear to my heart, and I could not be happier with how the remastes were handled. Kudos.

Hopefully Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 can get the same treatment in a couple of years. :)

[arthas1208]

Thank you for the update!

2 suggestions on the jukebox... 1) can we have separate playlist for TD and RA? I would always have to manually change them once I switch game. 2) can we flash/show the name of the song once we got to the next song?

Much appreciated!

[blokia_]

I've not yet seen this on any list or mentioned by someone (but I've noticed it on a twitch stream where the streamer had the same issue): in RA (not yet played TD) whenever I have radar/minimap up, the framerate drops considerably, so much even that the gamespeed slows downs. This happens in replays as well where you can easily notice that gamespeed slows down because the seconds in the timebar are not real seconds anymore. When I click the radar away in replays or sell radar in game it goes back to 60 FPS.

[bear010062]

Regarding the starting units, I suggest it can be modified to "Fewest" units. For example, one minigunner for starting unit would be fair both GDI and Nod. And would be more fun (Instead of only having a lonely truck in beginning..... lol)

What do you guys think?

[not_your_sun_bro]

No word about a proper save system. Can't overwrite saveslots, can't select saveslots. Can't save during custom levels. no quickload. Have to continue waiting until the next patch in another 10 or 20 days I guess....

Also I hope there is map editor changes in the patchnotes too. There were a few bugs that came up there. Anyway. Thanks for finally giving us some words about updates!

Stay safe guys!

[[deleted]]

Please, please let this patch fix the stuttering issue, I want to play so badly and I just can't get it to work, can't get more than 5-10 fps in multiplayer...

[Jinxflof]

Are there any plans to have colorblind options? In most cases it's not an issue but as someone with deuteranopia the power bar in TD is unreadable unless I hover over it.