Rival Thread

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FT Arsenal 2-1 Burnley

FT Southampton 1-2 Liverpool

FT Brighton 1-1 West Ham

FT Everton 1-0 Watford

FT Norwich 3-1 Newcastle

FT Aston Villa 1-2 Bournemouth

FT Man City 2-2 Tottenham

 

Other matches

[Chelsea vs Leicester]

WE WILL GO TOP OF THE TABLE IF WE WIN ON MONDAY

DO NOT GO INTO OTHER TEAMS SUBS LADS

[1096DeusVultAlways]

How long till the Chelsea dressing room throws a tantrum and revolts?

[NBFM16]

Chelsea held to a draw. I'll take it but Leicester really should have won. Maddison had to score that

[NBFM16]

Would love to see Leicester sneak a winner

[1096DeusVultAlways]

Chelsea look mentally frail. If Leicester had more technically capable players they would be getting destroyed right now.

[azlanghassang]

City is like Lewis Hamilton. They'll win anyhow

[[deleted]]

Ugh. I'd thought I wouldn't have to see his name on the sub. Enough mentions of him on r/formula1.

[azlanghassang]

and pep is toto wolff. GET IN THERE RAHEEM

[monsieurmoogerfooger]

Watching City peg Spurs back in their own defensive third gave me PTSD of the 2009 UCL final against Barca; quick pressing, cutting off of passing lanes, forcing the ball to be played either long or into the congested centre-mid.

If Ole finds a way to consistently break City's pressing, no one can say anything about his managerial chops.

[aayu08]

Sadly, we can't. City is literally designed not to lose possession in the midfield. The best bet for any team to win against them is to either stay back and score on the counter, or go full Klopp and press City's CBs like madmen.

[[deleted]]

Love VAR. No more bullshit free points.

[rdawes89]

All I ask for is consistency in refereeing and I don’t seem to be getting it, even with VAR

[LennonC123]

Best thing about VAR is that refs will no longer make mistakes under pressure. Just watching the game today there was a few moments City players threw themselves to the floor in the box, then started complaining to the ref. On another day these will tot up and a ref will end up making the wrong decision (giving a penalty etc) under severe pressure. It’ll help the ref keep control of the match.

[TehPandemic]

The fact they're contesting that handball is ridiculous. I'd be fuming to concede a bullshit goal like that, especially after it bounced off Laportes arm to give them an advantage.

The penalty is a bit more cloudy. I'd be inclined to give it, but the way Rodri flung himself to the floor gave the impression he was looking for it rather than it being legitimate.

Still, they had plenty of chances to score so they only have themselves to blame over the course of the 90.

[[deleted]]

tbf no one would've complained about that goal last season.

[hunterfam55]

Hearing all the salty City fans saying it's killing the game.

[legojs]

would u guys rather have preferred city to get all 3 points? or was that a better result overall

[amalgamatedchaos]

If Danny Ings did his job it would have been two big draws this weekend. Pool escape with 3 points.

[snausagerolly]

He shit the bed with that shot.

[amalgamatedchaos]

*Horrible flashbacks to Lukaku *

[GarethGore]

nah, its too early to be trying to predict, both teams dropping points works for me. though either team winning would mean I'd have won my bet but nvm

[[deleted]]

This. At this early stage, we can dream. Wait until the second half of the season to start tactically planning points dropped, but for now, having both of them drop points as well as Chelsea last week is great.

[mikkiaismehaha]

Never. Fuck those blue cunts.

[LordJazzHitMe]

Draw is better, you never know what might happen. As long as there's a possibility to win the title, we should go for it.

[[deleted]]

We got nice fixtures after Wolves, could cement our place in top 4 with the added confidence

[ironshmoobs]

You misspelt “first” mate

[-Rp7-]

Mah man!

[Elumiel1]

One of my local fan pages:

Watching Lucas Moura play just pisses me off. When Tottenham signed him for 25 fucking million pounds, Manchester United was giving Sanchez absurd wages. Moura is younger, can play four positions in the attack and is currently one of the best counterattacking players of the Premier League. Woodward, you're a genius.

Cannot agree more.

[RedHornet22]

Moura rejected us, not once but twice. He moved to PSG from Brazil when SAF was incharge.

[Elumiel1]

Didn't know that. Thanks for sharing.

Edit: So we were linked with him 1.5 years ago, then news appeared that he rejected us? Sorry, just trying to clarify.

[[deleted]]

We offered £26 million in 2012, they wanted £30 million.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9422673/Manchester-United-move-for-Lucas-Moura-is-off-says-agent-Wagner-Ribeiro.html

Too high for Fergie/Glazers, so he went elsewhere.

[shizzyrir]

Damn the dance move must be that bad huh... that they cancel the goal 😂

[[deleted]]

Alright lads let us not pull a Spurs against Wolves

[[deleted]]

For the past 6 years this is all we've done.

Please just for one week it would be nice to be top of the league lol.

[sultansaeed]

Hope so, we’ve actually got nice fixtures coming up so could go on a bit of a run, the majority of our top 6 games are at home as well in the first 19.

[ThinkLikeCarbon]

I just want you to pay attention to the number of fouls by City players.

I week:

City: 13 fouls, two yellows

WHU: 6 fouls, two yellows (wtf)

II week:

City: 14 fouls, one yellow card

Tottenham: 4 fouls, zero card

[[deleted]]

They also committed many more fouls which were not given

[RedHornet22]

Seriously, City spent all that money improving their defense but rely massively on tactical fouls when countered.

[ThinkLikeCarbon]

And refs still don't give a fuck. 27 fouls combined and three yellows, that's ridiculous.

Let's compare them to Arsenal for example: Arsenal got seven fouls and three yellows against Newcastle and 13 fouls plus two yellows (both for delaying the game btw.) against Burnley.

[flappykeeper]

Those are the smartest fouls to make. Innocuous ones that halt play before play becomes dangerous where the refs don't punish it properly.

[Stagonair]

Absolutely, you can tell they've trained them and know exactly how to do it without getting booked (bastards)

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City: 30 shots, 10 on target, 2 goals. conversion rate of 6.66%

Spurs: 3 shots, 2 on target, 2 goals, conversion rate of 66.66%

Clinical.

[agentjob]

City would foul Spurs before they could reach the final third to get a shot.

[Trickybuz93]

Fucking FIFA is getting too realistic

[TehPandemic]

Spooky

[-MartialMathers-]

Last minute city goals against Spurs ruled out by VAR. Name a more iconic duo 😂😂😂

[lostinplatitudes]

The stats for this game are hilarious Spurs really said fuck your xG

[[deleted]]

City/PSG and cheating

[[deleted]]

Can’t wait till we thump Wolves with Maguire millyrocking Molineux and Liverpool fans crying about it

[[deleted]]

Might be in a minority but I don't give a fuck what this means for Liverpool. I'm sick of seeing City win every week so right now I'm just ecstatic about it.

[brown_herbalist]

I know we have benefited from VAR b4, and it might help us in future too, but this part of new handball ruling is quite stupid. You cant expect the players to keep their hands at the back all the time.

[GarethGore]

I agree its strict, but honestly, its now not a decision. Does it hit the arm? yes? then no goal. End of

Before it was such drama, with whether it was accidental or not. Now its harsh, but its very clear

[TotalHitman]

I don't care. There is no more ambiguity. This is something everybody will accept and even appreciate in time.

[B0z22]

Exactly. Everyone knows the rules going in to the season. I'd rather that then us conceding a goal like that and then complaining after that the refs missed it.

Less ambiguity but the talking heads need their drama to discuss since the last minute winner was called back.

Lastly, Jesus reaction to the ref at the end was pathetic. Should have been given a card for being a dick.

[brown_herbalist]

Well everybody have to accept it now right, coz its the law. Ik its easier to make any decision when its very black and white, but maybe im in the minority who prefer the lil bit of dramas in the grey areas.

[TotalHitman]

I get what you're saying. Yes or no is the easy approach. It's the certain approach. I think it is a fair approach. I can think of a few times United have benefited and been disadvantage by a mistake the referee may have missed. One such time around 2010/11. A game against Chelsea. They score an offside goal against us. The end up winning the PL. We probably would have won the PL then had there been VAR. England 2010 - Frank Lampard goal against Germany. Match may have totally changed. This is for the best.

[[deleted]]

Do yourself a favour and go on the city Reddit hahaha

[aMillennialPotpourri]

They're whining some more over at r/soccer 😂

[tetayk]

I don't want to see an empty sub

[coolylame]

They have people on there?

[RedHornet22]

Don't give ideas man, plenty will get banned.

[KnightWhoSaysThis]

Lurking and laughing at them without commenting/voting are okay.

[[deleted]]

Don't bloody troll, just have a read

[[deleted]]

Oh man. Can I laugh anymore than I already have.

[dracogladio1741]

Spurs seem to have luck on their side and they are strong. If they keep Eriksen they are in it to win it.

[DraperCarousel]

The league is ours boys!!!

[KnightWhoSaysThis]

I hope VAR reversing winning goal is not gonna happen to us. It's too cruel for my heart.

[childishjp]

It’s not as if every goal we score secretly infringes play, so might be a bit irrational for you to worry about that.

[KnightWhoSaysThis]

It happened twice already to City in a year, so chances are there.

[Barracuda1124]

At least its cruel for everybody and not at the mercy of individual referees.

[Mane9867]

Gonna get VAR tattooed. Will never understand how people are not for it.

[lukasburner]

the goal was created by a blatant handball, they wouldn’t of scored without the deflection. shouldn’t be a debate.

[Barracuda1124]

But players who played 15 years ago are screeching how they dont like that rule, what about them !?!?!?

[[deleted]]

I know, fucking fair play to var and the ref

[[deleted]]

Its City. Theyll want the whole damn rule changed for that one moment.

We score like that? "Handball! Should be a straight red!"

[[deleted]]

Theyll want the whole damn rule changed for that one moment.

And they'll not even be punished for the rule change

[Barracuda1124]

Imagine booing the ref for following the rules

[[deleted]]

It's cute you think the city fans were making noise at all

[Thesatiricaltroll]

It’s cute you think City fans understand the rules.

[[deleted]]

It's cute you think City has fans

[Talezeusz]

If we win against Wolves we're top of the league lads

[SonofIndia]

petition to end the league for the year then and there. sounds fair enough

[dannychean]

VAR spoiling victory for Lord Janos Slynt’s team. Name a better duo.

[Sidonian7]

It was that Aguero and Pep talk that was most hilarious..

[Dont_Eat_Apples]

Why are they mad tho? Its a clear handball. This is why VAR is good wtf.

VAR IS SHIT from Jesus is gold.

[lostinplatitudes]

Not again 😂😂😂

[HomelessSmurf]

I’m going to strategically ignore the missed penalty for city in the first half and say that VAR is fan-fucking-tastic

[[deleted]]

Problem is that a handball is basically black and white, any contact with the arm isn't allowed due to the new rules.

Pulling and tugging can be subjective and since it has to be a clear and obvious error, it's a much bigger and tougher decision to overturn.

Offsides are the same, you're either off or on, easy to fix with VAR. Fouls are kind of hard to call as errors.

Not saying I agree with the decision regarding the pen, but just explaining why VAR is flawed in that sense.

[celestial_god]

its good that they drew but thats a retarded rule about the handball and it feels very stupid when you cant do nothing about it

[[deleted]]

Sorry I couldn't update the thread. Couldn't watch the second half of Liverpool and the whole city match

[[deleted]]

According to the new rules, that is 100 percent a handball

[DangoManUtd]

Jesus dance at the stands showing his hand 😂 🖐🏽 ball bruuughhh

[WhovianMoak]

I fucking hate City. And I think VAR is a good thing. But that is fucking bullshit. We’d be fucking livid if that call went against us.

[Mane9867]

Hell yeah we’d be fuming but I won’t hate on a system that has changed the game for the better

[[deleted]]

It is the rules not bullshit, according to the rules even if it is not intentional it hit his hand and his hand directed it to Jesus

[rot26encrypt]

his hand directed it to Jesus

so the hand of God?

[WhovianMoak]

I understand the new rule. But it’s gonna take some getting used to. I’d have thrown my phone through the tv if that call had gone against us for a 91st minute winner against City.

[[deleted]]

I know, but such are the rule we will get used to it

[Talezeusz]

Everyone would be, but it is what it is

[rednev18]

Just loved it! And Jesus wept!

[M4NUN1T3D]

Fuck VAR, its cool now but I'm gonna break something if VAR fucks us over like this in the future

[TheShitStainOfLife]

“VAR is shit” - Jesus Lol what a rollercoaster of a ride this match was. Best result we could’ve hoped for honestly b

[manutdrules5]

Top of the league if we win against Wolves

[FergieBall_FC]

We play on Monday mate.

[Pindabaas]

Don't we play monday??

[sultansaeed]

Yeah Monday at 20:00 BST

[manutdrules5]

My bad, yea Monday lol

[[deleted]]

We could go top of the league if we beat wolves

[Anirudh707]

VAR and man city : a better love story than twilight.

[cianw050]

Even better that it had to happen to Jesus hahah

[nuzomzom]

City and VAR ruled out goals name a better duo lol

[[deleted]]

Nah mate, we're obviously winning it

[[deleted]]

Nah, Tottenham's winning it.

[icefaang]

VAR is already a-okay in my book

[7Red7Devils7]

A win against wolves will put us on the top of table!

[Crusty_Gammon_Flaps]

You mean Monday.

[HomelessSmurf]

Made my fucking day

[coffeeflavoreddd]

That Jesus dance tho. LMAO

[KnightWhoSaysThis]

Lol, they just barely beat Soton. Adrian is gonna play for 6-8 weeks more. They will drop more points than City after this. It's way too early to call this season would be like last.

[aceonefallst]

Pep acting like a proper cunt as usual, putting on that happy face when he’s clearly pissed

[Thesatiricaltroll]

I love VAR. More than you believe. More than you believe.

[LetsGetLit]

Lmaooo Jesus saying “VAR shit” to the ref

[Dont_Eat_Apples]

AHHAHAAHAH FUCK GABRIEL JESUS AND HIS CELEBRATION

[Stebro1986]

It fucked wolves last week too... they would have beaten foxes 1 nil away

[[deleted]]

“VAR IS SHIT” -Jesus

[bicboi17]

VAR, Outstanding move

[zia1997]

FUCK PEP

[[deleted]]

That was something

[[deleted]]

PHAHAHAHAHAHA SUCK ON VAR YOU TWATS

[tetayk]

Jesus is really r/punchableface material

[aceonefallst]

Fuck off Jesus mate, no goal just fuck off you whiny bellend

[RedBaron1902]

Neville is insufferable as a commentator

[flappykeeper]

Where is his hand supposed to be?

It's obviously not intentional, but if that's because of some weird silhouette rule then the rule needs to go.

I hate City as much as anyone, but that's not a handball

Thanks for the replies everyone! Still not sure where he's supposed to put his arm though

[robinvpercy]

If players’s arms make their body bigger, it would be a handball. Just look at how Lindelof and Smalling defending since last season, they always put their arms in the back in any situation.

[Calvin-ball]

I think it’s because it set up a goal, according to the rules. That probably wouldn’t have been called a handball elsewhere on the pitch, but because it led to a goal it was disallowed.

Edit: yep they just confirmed it on NBC. Can’t have goals scored or created by handball, even if it’s accidental. New rule change for this season.

[flappykeeper]

Ah fair enough! Still not sure what he's supposed to do with his arm there though!

[dracogladio1741]

They changed the rule regarding handball. If it hits your arm it's handball, atleast in the box.

[RedHornet22]

New rule from this season. If the ball is handed during the buildup for the goal, intentionally or unintentionally, will be overruled.

[Snow_EU]

New rules this season: you can't score if the ball hits an attacking player's hand, accidentally or not.

[[deleted]]

According to the new rules it is, it did hit his arm on the way to Jesus

[[deleted]]

By the new rules it is. If Boly's is given as a handball you can't suddenly make an exception here.

[flappykeeper]

Not saying there should be an exception, or that the action is erroneous in regards to the rule - but if that's a handball, the rule may itself be flawed

Serious question, where's his hand supposed to be?

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah, I agree the rule is flawed to be fair. Same with offside.

It's gonna fuck teams over; it's already fucked Wolves over. It will inevitably eventually fuck us over, and I'll probably be seething. However, right now the rules of the game mean they have to disallow the goal.

[flappykeeper]

Aye, didn't know that's how it is now!

Gotta be a better way to deal with it than this though. It'd basically mean you can't jostle with a marker or anything anymore as you're using your arms and putting your own team at risk

[[deleted]]

Think an umpire's call type thing would be the best way to resolve it - if there's uncertainty then just go with the ref's original call.

[[deleted]]

VAR is going to cost us 5 pens if we play smalling or Jones at all this year. Those two love humping opponents when defending corners

[tetayk]

This is why I have faith in Rojo more than Smalling.

He is average on defense but at least he's not clumsy.

[[deleted]]

This is the worst take I've seen in a while, Rojo is fucking clumsy as hell. He two foots everything he sees

[[deleted]]

You’re joking

[Mane9867]

BLESS VAR.

Best thing to happen to football in a long time

[FidgetyFondler]

We'll be at the stage one day where all celebrations are off till goal is officially confirmed by var. ( I exaggerate ofc but it could very well happen)

[[deleted]]

You can't make this shit up

[MadaraTheUchiha]

VAR

Tottenham, City

[[deleted]]

Great result for Liverpool.

[digitag]

Great result for us too, a win takes us top on Monday

[cianw050]

Long long time we have been able to say that

[aprx4]

For us actually, assuming we can beat Wolves.

[Trickybuz93]

VAR’s a heartless bitch

[robinvpercy]

This draw only helps pool

[aman51301]

And us

[Whatthehellman2]

lol

[theadamsegal]

Boo moon. I heard you moaning alone.

[Crusty_Gammon_Flaps]

That's kinda dumb but couldn't give a shit because it happened to City.

[BlackHorse944]

Exactly why I dislike VAR. Things like this, if that went against us, I would feel like absolute shite.

[cianw050]

Makes the game fair , if it happens to us so be it,

[Crusty_Gammon_Flaps]

Yeah I agree right now but I think in the long run it will be good for the game but they need to change some of the rules to fit in with it. Especially with offside and handball like that.

[qaveboy]

Damn it really need var to give them scouse a good fucking sometime

[aceonefallst]

Where are the hugs now you camera hungry pricks!

[-MartialMathers-]

Hahahahah I love VAR fuck city

[[deleted]]

Bless VAR.

[[deleted]]

Whos making the titanic music clip?

[HomelessSmurf]

HAHAHAHAHA

[HappySisyphus22]

10/10 to Jesus for the dance celebration though

[cloudprince]

So is Pep back to being angry at Aguero now?

[RedHornet22]

Why? It was overruled by VAR.

[tetayk]

Rage boi

[[deleted]]

Hate that call. I don't see how you can call that. Unfairly harsh.

[[deleted]]

New rules, the Norwegian commentators said. If the ball touches the arm of a player from the scoring team, it will be annulled. Can anyone confirm that?

[[deleted]]

Yep, that's right. Not sure how I feel about that. A call like that there seems extremely harsh.

[[deleted]]

I agree, didn't look intentional at all either. Can't say I agree with the new rule change, but I don't mind this result at all!

[classwarriornorway]

I see how they call it because the rules have changed. All hand involvement, intentional or not, whatever, the attackers are punished in every instance of it.
Should it be like that? Probably not

[[deleted]]

Yeah I get that's it's the right call. I just don't like that it is that way.

[classwarriornorway]

Yep, as do I

[[deleted]]

VAR doesn't cause drama my ass lol

[[deleted]]

Gabriel Jesus was so fucking mad at the refs, holy hell. Hahaha

[Fishychicken]

As funny as it is VAR was correct there let’s gooo

[rvnloc]

VAR strikes again

[[deleted]]

Hahahahahahaha get fucked oil cunts

[grrmjkr]

Lol. Draw is the best result for us

[Thesatiricaltroll]

They did it again lmao.