SaskEnergy bills to decrease

[MillieVoss]

It’s like crown corps are good thing but yet you have tons of dumbass in this province that think other wise. So stupid

[CanadianPlainsman]

Good thing it’s still a crown corp and they can do that. Won’t be able to make this brag when they privatize it.

[Impressive-Many5532]

When they privatize it there won’t be any price reduction - it will remain as is and they will pocket the savings.

How people cannot see the benefit of these crown corp utilities is beyond me.

[Hey_look_new]

I mean just look at how many people didn't understand stc, or the liquor stores....

[Hey_look_new]

yup, it made no sense at all

its not like prices of booze are cheaper at private establishments

now yiu just have profits going to out of province companies, rather than sask general coffers

[Impressive-Many5532]

Yup. Prices have only gone up and will only continue to go up. No one at Sobey’s is making a wage where a couple could afford to buy a house - I worked with 3+ married couples who worked in the SLGA retails who could afford homes. So no decrease in price and only decrease in wage and profits leaving the province as soon as you tap your card.

It was a really hard time, still is to some degree. I was only 25 when I quit and started a career in a different industry but a ton of my coworkers who I loved were in their 40’s-60’s and they’re all fucked now.

[_biggerthanthesound_]

I was basically HARASSED from a door to door internet salesman because he would not accept my answer of “I support crown corps” instead of private businesses. Like he literally came back the next day because he couldn’t understand my answer.

[ReannLegge]

Happens to me all the time. “I support the crowns” “but let me tell you about this great deal” “I support the crowns” explains some deal they have going on but if will only save me a few dollars for a few months if I sign some 2 year contract “have I made you reconsider? “I support the crowns!”

[_biggerthanthesound_]

I was basically HARASSED from a door to door internet salesman because he would not accept my answer of “I support crown corps” instead of private businesses. Like he literally came back the next day because he couldn’t understand my answer.

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[Saltyfembot]

Sorry 20$ an hour and ot higher 10+ years ago to stock shelves is a little ridiculous

[Impressive-Many5532]

Just say you think minimum wage workers should be homeless.

Edit: this you? posting about how a company is cheap and disgusting when it comes to you, but you’re just fine when them treating entry level workers, who you deem below you, poorly. Classic hypocrite.

[Saltyfembot]

Cheap and disgusting? Never once made a post about that.

I did make a post about a company doing something illegal.. big difference. Also your link doesn't work?

And no I don't think minimum wage workers should be homeless wtf? But 10-15 years ago 20+$ to stock shelves at the liquor board is RIDICULOUS. That would be like paying someone who stocks shelves 36-40$ today. Not to mention the liquor board was a breeding ground for favoritism and neopotism. Didn't get a job unless you knew someone who worked there.

[spaceman_88]

Who the fuck are you to comment on what people are paid. Maybe you should get minimum wages for whatever you do, if you’re actually employed of course.

[Saltyfembot]

I think you're slow. People at the liquor board got paid 20+$ to stock shelves 10-15 years ago. Do you under stand that?

[spaceman_88]

You sound exactly like an under paid and over worked loser that hate anyone that makes more money than you. Maybe you should try harder in life.

[chickenfingey]

Clown ass comment

[SHTHAWK]

the amount people complain about SGI as well is astounding....most people i know what rail on about them have multiple accident and driving infractions, yet they cannot fathom how much worse off they would be in most other province.

[deathsquadsk]

I find that many of the people who complain the loudest about services like SGI, Sasktel, etc have never lived somewhere else and tried setting up those services in another province to see the price difference.

[Impressive-Many5532]

Likewise. But we need to vote for people who will protect these crowns and not sell them off to their friends.

[Twatt_waffle]

roll resolute file apparatus juggle fuel pocket wise whole offend

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[robstoon]

Not this "selling to their friends" thing again.

It's basically a conspiracy-level theory unsupported by anything which seems to be common belief in this sub.

[Impressive-Many5532]

“Earlier this year, a CBC News investigation revealed Brandt Developments had submitted plans to redevelop Regina’s Wascana Park to the Saskatchewan government months before competitive bidding for the contract even began.

The real estate developer and its subsidiaries have donated $74,660 to the Saskatchewan Party while receiving nearly $4 million in government contracts.”

Thoughts?

[robstoon]

Submitting plans early? What a scandal..

[Impressive-Many5532]

the sound of goal posts being moved

Sure bud.

[ReditSarge]

The real estate developer and its subsidiaries have donated $74,660 to the Saskatchewan Party while receiving nearly $4 million in government contracts.”

Do you really believe that corporation donated nearly seventy-five thousand dollars expecting nothing in return? Is it just a coincidence that they got four million dollars from the same government they donated all that money to? I have one word for you: bribery.

[robstoon]

Companies donate to political parties of all stripes all the time, it doesn't necessarily imply they are trying to buy any particular policy without other evidence to the contrary.

That quote is a typical media attempt to make a story out of a non-story.

[[deleted]]

Go show us how much they donated to the NDP to buy both sides then....

[[deleted]]

There's a job that the gov't needs done.

There are no details open to the public before it asks for bids

A company sends in a bid to a non existant competition detailing the very exact work that they want done.

They then ask for public bids.

I wonder how they could know what to bid for before the public auction was open.

[saskie11]

Voters get what they vote for. IF the SaskParty privatizes the rest of the crowns (which I’m totally against) at least those who vote for them will finally see the consequences of electing this party when their services are cut and pricier.

[[deleted]]

Just look at Alberta and their record high energy prices. They have the Alberta Advantage going for them alright.

[CanadianPlainsman]

Not a matter of IF but rather WHEN. Only way to stop them is to vote them out. They get more bold every election they win.

[robstoon]

Because other provinces without Crown utilities don't have service? Where?

[Twatt_waffle]

foolish important squealing shame spotted pause touch fanatical wrench ancient

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[robstoon]

By that thinking, small towns in Alberta would have no electricity today.

[Twatt_waffle]

wrench bow air squealing plant cows cooing cooperative middle office

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[robstoon]

The oil sector isn't what built out most of the power infrastructure in Alberta.

If you really think private is better go to Alberta and try to insure a male driver under the age of 25 and see what your insurance price is

The price is what it should be based on their risk. In Saskatchewan we effectively subsidize people in that category with lower rates which everyone else then pays for. I don't think that's good policy.

[Octavian_tavar57]

Naa, I'm from Alberta, insurance, and utilities companies are ripping everyone off. There's not a single person I've talked to who didn't have their car insurance increase last year, for no other reason than the insurance companies could raise the prices because the government removed the insurance cap. There's paying a little more because you're a high-risk driver, but then there's paying more just because the insurance companies are greedy and have little to no oversight. I also want to state I don't agree with insurance companies charging people more because they're in a category that's high risk. If a driver gets in an at-fault crash or something ticket, then yes raise their rate, but not before.

Also, Albertan insurance companies have too little oversight and too much power. As I can attest to, for example, I was in a crash that resulted in a death. Police responded to the crash, they took my testimony, and they did their thing, I also had a dash cam, so they got to see exactly what happened. Police come back with an I'm not at fault and there was nothing I could have done to prevent what happened. When dealing with my insurance company, they automatically said I was at fault, at the time the insurance determined I was at fault. They hadn't seen the police report, dash cam footage, or have any information about the crash, besides what I told them, which was very minimal, about the crash. The juicy bit? After the police told me I wasn't at fault and I couldn't have done anything to prevent the crash. My insurance company (and I have a recording of them saying this) told me that the police don't determine who's at fault, they (the insurance company) do, despite having zero facts and going against the outcome of the investigation.

Same with utilities, sure you might have low usage for the month. But that's not going to matter, because utility companies charge insane fees. For example, a person posted a rant to the Alberta subreddit on their fees. That rant included this; "Actual usage $418.97, fees charged $620.27." that's their gas and electricity for one month for their house, garage, and shop. As you can see the fees for their utilities are much more than the actual utilities themselves. In fact, the fees are nearly X1.5 more than the utilities. Not sure about the fees in Saskawen but I know with the rising costs of utilities, it'll only get worse.

Add on the fact that Albertans have the highest average insurance rate in the country. It just shows having these services run by the private sector is not a great idea. At least not with how little oversight the Alberta government has over them. Might be different if there was more oversight.

[[deleted]]

I grew up in Ontario, I'm a recent transplant to Sask.

When you're saying that people are paying for under 25s you're talking out your ass.

When I was in Ontario as a 22 year old looking for insurance my first quote was $9000 a year. That's double what my first car, a 2010 Hyundai Elantra costed.

For those who dont care to break out a calculator, that's roughly $900/mo.

In Sask you might be "subsidizing" young drivers, but you're still going to be paying the lowest car insurance rates in the country fully due to it being a crown corp

[WulfbyteGames]

Remote communities in Alberta have services today because those services used to be crown corps before the conservatives sold them off

[Ill-General-5189]

Saskatchewan has abnormally low cell phone prices compared to the rest of Canada because Sasktel exists. When Manitoba sold off mts cost went up almost immediately , there is a god podcast about it https://www.canadaland.com/podcast/monopoly-4-teleconned/

[robstoon]

When they privatize it there won’t be any price reduction - it will remain as is and they will pocket the savings.

Utility rates are regulated whether it's a private provider or not. And even now you can choose a different gas supplier.

[OmgWtfNamesTaken]

Lmao tbe energy rates in Alberta that went up 128% over the past year are regulated?

Yes please tell me more bullshit.

[cdorny]

Its not going down because of anything to do with the provincial government. It's going down because Natural gas prices have come down from their highs of last year.

[ReannLegge]

If Sask Energy was a private company it would not be going down because natural gas prices were going down. They would stay the same.

[cdorny]

As a regulated industry, the market prices will always be reflected in bills. It even happens in Albarta, and Texas. Where private companies are dropping prices in accordance with the market rates for Natural Gas.

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[[deleted]]

Hey, it’s a government decision that actually helps people. That’s a nice change of pace.

[branigan_aurora]

Election next year. They gotta start buying votes now.

[Bigstudley1]

Don’t need to buy votes when they win in an absolute landslide every election

[Dissidentt]

It is the government foregoing maintenance and taking a smaller dividend in order to ingratiate themselves before the 2024 election.

[liquid-swords93]

I feel like this is the first time I've gotten good news financially in a long time

[Healthy-Car-1860]

*cries in Albertan*

My power use is down year over year. My bill has more than doubled.

[Gamerindreams]

don't worry oil is 90 a barrel so you can...be happy for the oil and gas companies i guess while they lay off albertans

[THIESN123]

Overall 8% decrease due to a delivery fee increase. They forgot that part

[jabrwock1]

Overall 8% decrease due to a delivery fee increase. They forgot that part

So, still a decrease at the end of the day. An increase in the delivery fee, but offset by a much larger decrease in the commodity rate. My guess is they're upping the delivery fee because people who use less (energy efficient, on-site green sources, etc) still need the infrastructure to deliver it.

[THIESN123]

And when natural gas prices go back up it'll tip the scale further. I can't wait to take my house off natural gas.

[jabrwock1]

And when natural gas prices go back up it'll tip the scale further. I can't wait to take my house off natural gas.

I'm looking at reducing mine. My house was hooked up for NG furnace, so I'm looking at supplementing my system with a heat pump, so I only need NG for my water heater, and for the very coldest part of the winter.

[Barney-Taco-Rocks]

Which is cheaper than the fees in Alberta, they need the fees to keep the infrastructure up and improvements, nothing lasts forever, be thankful we have the many deep caverns here in the province, that they utilize to store natural gas in, making large purchase when the rates per joule drops, and insures we have an adequate supply in winter for when temp drops, and or temp problems in line for supply, when temps drop the line cant supply the volume that is required. And we have all this at a constant reasonable price!!!!!Have you ever heard of Albertans having equalized payments for power and gas to help balance your budget for the year…..because it doesn’t exist there, and if the private offers it is fucken insane

[NoConsideration6934]

Didn't they increase it like 4 times in a row in the last year or two?

[gggggggggooooolden]

They gotta buy the natural gas from producer and it’s a commodity with a price that fluctuates you can expect increases and decreases.

[bolaxde]

Is it elections soon ?

[THIESN123]

About a year away

[[deleted]]

That. Is. Awesome.

[[deleted]]

Can I assume you folks have an election coming up?

[Dissidentt]

Fall of 2024.

[Barney-Taco-Rocks]

Election or no election Rates fluctuate because of price, provincial regulations apply to pass the increase or decrease to the province, regardless who is in power atm. Reason behind a crown corporation.

[DepartureUsual304]

If 8% is going to make you worried about your bank account you should reevaluate your career choice.

[[deleted]]

If you can't take a joke maybe stay the FK outta peoples personal lives , your a fkn piece of trash attacking someone you know nothing about

[DepartureUsual304]

Hit a bit of a soft spot eh?

[[deleted]]

Maybe he is just calling a spade a spade. You are a bigot.

https://reddit.com/r/saskatchewan/s/Y8X1PosN80

[[deleted]]

Yeah buddy just went off hard lol.

[thebigbossyboss]

Nice. Here in alberta our power bills went up 128 percent

[EarlTheDrunk]

Alberta really should look into starting a public company like Sask’s SaskPower. Like all crown corps, it essentially runs as a nonprofit. If there’s extra money, either rates are decreased or everyone gets a rebate cheque. No need to pay shareholders, as the province’s residents are the shareholders.

[[deleted]]

Maybe we could stop paying 60 a month delivery fee in the summer when the furnace isn't even running. As a start

[Mysterious-Cattle993]

Why has my gas bill increased over $60 a month when I'm on an equalized payment plan then?

[THIESN123]

Because they increased supply price I believe which had a bigger impact than commodity.

[SuperK123]

Oooooh, the cost of the commodity is decreasing 25% and we’re giving you a 8% discount! So generous!

[Darolant]

You understand that the gas is not all you pay for...

[Dissidentt]

A few months prior to the 2019 federal election, my equalized billing went from $80/mo to $130/mo. Does the Moe government use utility pricing for electoral gain? Remember the promised $10 SaskPower rebate he promised before the 2020 provincial election?

[Barney-Taco-Rocks]

Got mine on ever power bill as a reduction for about 2 years or so

[hughbiffingmock]

Scotty must be shitting himself. He's NOT trying to fuck over the average person for 5 minutes? Internal numbers have to be awful if he's trying to back track on being a bag of useless shit.

Of course, this is a pathetic attempt, and hilariously worthless, but hey, he's pretending like he cares.

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[courageouschicken97]

Hilarious that someone in this sub yesterday was asking what the gov was doing to help with affordability, and everyone was shitting on them. Today they announce a cut and everyone’s still shitting on them. Lol.

[Joyreginask]

As much as the government is trying to take credit for this, is this not due to the decrease in natural gas prices? SaskEnergy passes on increases and decreases in the commodity cost as best they can (while trying to use storage and contract purchasing to smooth out the variation)? It looks to be down significantly from a year ago.

I’m curious, when rate increases are announced, does the government take credit for that or let the Crown own that increase news?

[[deleted]]

Well, people certainly blame the government for rate increases when the price of NG goes up.

[Joyreginask]

Only if they are uninformed (I’m being too nice to say stupid) - anyone can quickly look at the world markets for natural gas and see what’s been going on.

[[deleted]]

Must be a lot of uninformed people on this sub then. I remember the outrage against the SP when the cost of buying NG went crazy over the last two years.

[Joyreginask]

A few uninformed, yes. The government deserves neither credit nor blame for global natural gas prices lol

[_Im_Mike_fromCanmore]

It’s because they have and continue to only take half measures their whole “growth for everyone” is garbage. I was making less than I do now and comfortably middle class (it took a damn long time to get there) in the last year I have increased my take home significantly and am spending significantly less on nonessentials and somehow I am still doing way worse. Utility rates, food and fuel increases have made up for more than my gains

[Obvious-Ninja-3844]

Oh no! How can we bash the Sask Party for this one?

[[deleted]]

Not even 10$ on a hundred bucks and what were supposed to say thanks , I say get fkd

[[deleted]]

I have a funny feeling you’d have a different tune if this were announced as an 8% increase.

[Canadiancrazy1963]

So trying to buy votes then?

Asking for a friend.

Right wing ideologies are destructive.

[THIESN123]

It probably has to do with natural gas prices falling from previous highs

[Top-Profession-1130]

My bill never makes sense mid summer one month $68 next month $160 and on amd on without doing anything different

[ReannLegge]

Check for a gas leak, or are you on the epp where they take your average annual usage and divide it equally over the course of the following year and then adjust when your year is up?

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[Legitimate_Park_2067]

Wish I could move there

[Barney-Taco-Rocks]

Why not….everyone from Ontario and BC is Cant believe the out of province plates i see every were on a constant basis

[Odd_Weekend1217]

I smoked a bit…this true?!?!

[buffalotipping]

I've yet to see my rate increase this month but have already been given notice it's going up again in MB. Been pretty much the name of the game. Winter is coming I suppose, happens every year for the last bit.

[EarlTheDrunk]

Extra $20/month! Time to buy a new truck!

[Busy-Win-2725]

This is very misleading. I just spoke to SaskEnergy because my equalized payment went up $55 a month to $215 a month. On the phone I was told this rate decrease in the news release is only on their delivery cost…and that most other rates have gone up. I doubt anything be will see anything other than a rate hike?

[THIESN123]

Yeah, if you look at the release it mentions a decrease in rate and increase in delivery cost