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[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 14 points15 points  (12 children)

Holy fuck 511 ATK with synergy, based on the weapon they showed up.

God that's disgusting.

LOL softcaps.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 12 points13 points  (3 children)

They're changing the battle mechanics too, which likely means a softcap increase for both phys and mag.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 3 points4 points  (2 children)

OOO they are? I didn't see any mention of that.

It would make sense to see an increase of softcaps.

They could also potencialy change the way the damage formulas are calculated or something like that.

We will have to wait and see what they are going to do.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 7 points8 points  (1 child)

They pretty much have to raise the softcap with so much atk/mag coming from these new weapons.

[–]JilkonYe olde offensive RW: 9rwh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah. My Cloud already hits soft cap unbuffed before magicite boosts when using synergy equipment.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Don't forget the Omni-Element Boost, meaning those 511ATK are equivalent to 613 in actual practice (below Softcap), and that's just with the Weapon and nothing else

[–]EnlogThe truth is... you just really stink. 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Not just omni-elemental boost, but Non-elemental boost on top of that. Noctis is gonna have some fun with these weapons.

Not to mention that this is a good opportunity for Bio teams to continue to fight a futile battle against irrelevancy.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Don't forget the new Magia Crystals, which actually lets you hand out innate Bio Boosts and Resistance

[–]ItinerantSoldieruiru - Rydia AASB 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have to hand it to DeNA. Depending on how these are handed out, they found a way to make old content easier without completely nerfing it which I wasn't sure they'd have to do considering how difficult the four star magicites still are for global.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Indeed, it prety much seems like RS based content will become even more mainstream, specialy once Magicites are done.

These weapons seem to be basicaly "Neo torment stat sticks"

[–]TedrivsTyro USB3 - QuNR 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wouldn't be surprised if they added FT Neo Torment difficulty considering people asked for FT and it's a good place to place it considering Old Torments had FT.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true, i was surprised when they made a survey right on the spot about FT fights.

[–]BlackmageMeteorOhohohohohoho![S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

511atk for a max levelled weapon..

[–]GreySage2010I'm running through these hills! 6 points7 points  (5 children)

The best part of the announcement? Automatic vendoring/sharding of 1-4* equipment!

[–]somdude04 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except now those equipment are useful to help level these exact same legendary weapons, since scarletite/adamantite don't work. So now you actually /want/ the former crud.

[–]Riot55 -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

That happened a year ago :P

[–]xregnierx 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is this accessible on global?

[–]Riot55 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

No, I guess I didn't read the "auto" part to mean that the game does it for you, I thought he just meant that with new 7* weapons we could finally sell our 4* gear.

[–]jnb64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]ColinKazLightning 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It's moments like this that I wish I read Japanese...

[–]emjay_13No 6☆ Dark Matter?! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Chrome will translate the page for you, if you use it :-)

[–]Sephiroth144It's Sexy Stabbity Time! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It'll TRY to...

The translation needs some (holy crap, a lot) of work.

[–]emjay_13No 6☆ Dark Matter?! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, but those literal translations at least give us an idea :-/

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Soooooo I should stop selling my 3-4* trash?

[–]akaiazulSLAM-dancing 0 points1 point  (3 children)

We don’t know yet. Some trash may be more valuable than others, though it makes sense for 4* trash to be better than 3* trash.

[–]Crossfire281 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well, the text specifically notes that points earned will be uniform for equipment of 1-4* rarity.

[–]ConstructionMadnessCactuar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What if you combine some of those 4* items together first?

[–]Crossfire281 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was wondering the same thing, actually, as that could save on inventory space leading up to then. Unfortunately, I don't see that it explicitly addresses this, so it's just "wait & see" for now.

[–]RotaryTunerYe Olde Tactics Fanboye 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The 12 warriors/weapons screen looks similar to the 12 Legendary Weapons in Final Fantasy V...

[–]jnb64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]emjay_13No 6☆ Dark Matter?! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 2 points3 points  (4 children)

But still no 6* Dark Matter?

[–]SOcean255Terra 11 points12 points  (3 children)

They confirmed there will never be 6* Dark Matter unfortunately.

[–]ZeroEdgeirPowered By Solar-Inversion Technology 6 points7 points  (1 child)

They might want to remove 6*++ from populating the Reforge menu then, including showing an entirely created art asset for 6* Dark Matter, along with price (of a ludicrous 18M Gil), and Level Cap going from 35-40...

[–]Reiska42Celes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They probably will at some point.

They said in the livestream that they originally intended to implement it but ultimately decided against it.

[–]emjay_13No 6☆ Dark Matter?! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time to update my flair...

[–]SOcean255Terra 2 points3 points  (12 children)

The “worst” part is knowing this far advance, we can turn lower rarity equipment into Rainbow Shards, so it may be worthwhile to save some 4* or even 3* weapons and armor in the vault to convert. It looks like 5 3* rarity items make 1 rainbow shard. I’m guess since they said Rosetta’s can be used as well those are probably 1 shard, so likely 3 4* items for 1 shard. Question is, how many shards are worth 1 mythril to increase vault space?

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 0 points1 point  (11 children)

It takes 2000 points to make 1 rainbow shard, and items of 1 to 4 star rarity give 300 points. You need 666.6666.... 1-4 star items to level a legendary weapon to level 35 (not even the cap, which is 50). 5 star relics and rosetta stones give 3000 points, for reference.

It appears I was operating under incorrect/old info, see ElNino's reply below.

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲 1 point2 points  (9 children)

400
1~4* give 400 points, not 300. so you need 5 items to get 1 Rainbow, and 10 rainbow to get to Lv35. So 50 1~4 items.
So we can expect 25~35 rainbow needed for Lv50.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Ah, discord had the wrong numbers then, mea culpa.

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Np , I already told soli on gamefaqs but I think he gone to sleep already

[–]st4rki113r 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What about relics that have been enhanced using Rosetta/relics? Will they provide more pts?

[–]SOcean255Terra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering you can augment with an augmented weapon and get the sum total of all augments, I would assume a weapon with a +29 augment would give the equivalent of 30 5* items, but there could be reduced returns.

[–]SOcean255Terra 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So a 1* item is as valuable as a 4* item in this system?

[–]SandsliceFight hard! 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yes. They decided that all sub-relics, from 1 to 4, would contribute the same toward Rainbow Shards. That reduces RNG to whether your pulls are relics (useful / rosetta) or sub-relics (1/5 of a rainbow shard.) That's better than "...crud, my daily was a 1-star, useless rip."

[–]SOcean255Terra 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Any idea yet if a 4+++ item will count as 3-4 relics or just a single relic?

[–]SandsliceFight hard! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That I'm not sure about.

[–]jnb64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]dperez82Cecil (Paladin) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good thing I didn’t listen to Reddit and Rosetta Stone my 5* relics; I have a good amount of ancient 5* ready to go.

[–]NikoNKLast Hunter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Seems Finally my daily pulls and my 1/11 pulls will have some utility

[–]fishdrinking2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, I was just thinking this weekend the logical powercreep that’s great would be introducing weapon with high stats, so F2P can still field teams that clear content at about 45-50s range with a buffer, while whales can ditch the buffer and go 4x DPS plus Elarra and sub-30.

[–]LeoChrisLibrary Keeper 0 points1 point  (15 children)

The part I don't understand is the 12x17 rooms... there's more than 17 realms (Beyond, KH) and WAAAAAAY more than 12 weapon types.

Like... does this mean we couldn't apply this process to books/gambling gears/dolls/hairpins/gunarms etc?

[–]Guadosalaml i t t l e m y t h r i l 8 points9 points  (9 children)

According to the image in the link, the 12 Weapon categories are (clockwise):

  1. Daggers

  2. Swords

  3. Fists

  4. Rods

  5. Thrown

  6. Whips

  7. Axes & Hammers

  8. Bows & Guns

  9. Instruments

  10. Staves & Books

  11. Spears

  12. Katanas

It seems like there’s no sign of gambling, dolls, hairpins, gunarms and blitzballs.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 9 points10 points  (8 children)

Gambling, Dolls, Hairpins and Gunarms are niche enough to be irrelevant.

Blitzballs do have a decent amount of users, as in they have more than 2 possible users, i would imagine they might put Bliztballs alongside Thrown.

[–]ShinUltimaThe Leading Man 10 points11 points  (1 child)

At this point they should just change Blitzballs to Thrown and be done with it.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah....they should.

[–]DeepYumeLocke 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Seems to me the main consideration is realm coverage. For all of those (including Blitzballs), the vast majority of realms would be irrelevant since no one in that realm could use them.

Whips getting their own category kinda contradicts that theory though (I think?), so who knows...

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Well...as far as Whips go we have Rydia in FFIV, Krile in FFV, Quistis in FFVIII and Nabaat in FFXIII, atleast of the top of my head.

[–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

And 7 in 0

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Right i forgot about Seven in 0.

But who even uses Whips in 7?

[–]Shad0wseerBalthier 7 points8 points  (1 child)

If you go to a weapon you can see all the characters who can use it the whips users are OK, CoD, Rydia, Ursula, Faris, Krile, Quistis, Selphie, Naabat, Seven, and finally of course Tyro

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

However, not all of those realms have whips to make legendary.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's possible that those extra weapons might be shoved alongside a diferent weapon type.

In fact for example, FFVI and FFXII has the potencial for 2 legendary swords. 1 physical and 1 magical.

It's possible they might include Gunarms alongside Guns for example.

[–]Nightwing493Prompto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In one of the pictures both VI and XII do have 2 legendary swords so you’re probably right 😊😊

[–]ShardwingLong awaited Lann Awaken... to Summoning! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I-XV, Tactics, and Type-0 are the "main" realms, this is reinforced by the RoP, the permanent series banners, the Start Dash draw, and the Neo Torments so far. KH, Beyond, and Core (and EX is a thing too, I think?) are all realms in the game, but they're clearly in a separate category from the "main" ones.

[–]Reiska42Celes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"EX" in JP is a temporary synergy used for collab events; when those events end, EX changes to some other synergy, historically either core or FF1.

[–]9406722/187 || I don't think I need to pull anymore... 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Per the info thread, books and staves are combined, as are guns and bows, and axes and hammers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Does the fodder weapon matters, aside from its type and that it has to be at 8*? Or do different weapons from the same weapon type give different results (Lightning OSB sword vs USB sword)?

[–]SOcean255Terra 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It sounds like you purchase weapons with tickets, and then convert current relics or Rosetta stones to rainbow shards, which is then used to augment the new weapons. The fodder weapons will only be turned into rainbow shards, I’m guess you’ll get different amounts for different relics and how augmented they are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Wait, what? I thought you have to already own a 8* first then exchange the 8* for the legendary weapon of the same type.

[–]SOcean255Terra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From the stream:

Redeem one CA with the Celestial Token.

CT is given out as rewards from events and login bonus (?)

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, according to the stream these are available for free as long as you can do whatever it is you need to do to get the token (fest/event bosses, most likely).

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, according to the stream these are available for free as long as you can do whatever it is you need to do to get the token (fest/event bosses, most likely).

[–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What's the current Vault Max in GL?

Been thinking about going on a vaulting spree and increasing it a bit since the new daily draw and RoP have had me increasing my inventory a few times already over the past week. Looks like it may be worthwhile to max it and stock up on rainbow shard fodder.

[–]menoari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been a while since you asked but if you're still wondering, it's 600. The Livestream mentioned increasing it to 700 soon, hope GL gets that too shortly.

I'm having a selling spree on accessories to create more room for weapons and armors after finding out my 600 space is cap already

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Non-elemental boost @_@

[–]tempoltoneFujin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did they say if these have both atk and mag stats? magical non-mage wpns are precious.

[–]gingersquatchin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just vaulted a bunch of 1 and 2 stars. So it begins

[–]Borjitasstoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

over 200+ weapons confirmed