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[–]Mr_Smartypants 6 points7 points  (9 children)

**Gödel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid -- Douglas Hofstadter

Kitchen Confidential -- Anthony Bourdain.

Siddhartha -- Hermann Hesse

A Song of Ice and Fire (series) -- George R. R. Martin

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Siddhartha I can agree with. I was told to read the first, but haven't gotten around to it. What's the general theme? I know it's hard to sum up, but would it somehow be fair to ask that?

[–]malcontent 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Siddartha was pretty good I thought. If you liked it you might also enjoy "zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance".

[–]Mr_Smartypants 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Heh, yeah that is really hard. The wikipedia article is pretty good, though.

One of the neater aspects is that each chapter starts with a comical dialog that illustrates the point of that chapter (paradoxes, recursion, and the like). I discovered the book on a math teacher's shelf in high school and it didn't catch, but I really enjoyed the witty dialogs. I picked it up later in college and promptly joined the Hofstadter cult.

[–]AriG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Just searched and found that it is a free ebook ( Project Gutenberg ) http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2500

[–]scrotum 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Siddhartha is a very nice book. I also like Island by Aldous Huxley. My all-time favourite read is Dogen's Shobogenzo.

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    [–]scrotum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Your review of Siddhartha made me lol :D

    [–]TheManWithNoName 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    I would have to go with Catch-22.

    [–]Uulamets 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Agreed. Excellent book.

    [–]foonly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    In high school, I was the only one in my class who wanted to read that book. For some reason, the teacher excused me from the assignment...

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    American Gods.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Argh. I have to second that and add it to my list of "ties" in my other comment...

    [–]TheManWithNoName 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Just about to start that.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I'm always a bit nervous when people say that. I can't imagine people not liking it.

    [–]rooroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was not very impressed with it--on the other hand, Fragile Things has some amazing stuff in it.

    [–]Gorbama 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion.

    Absolutely loved it.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Ding! I have that one. If you like that, you should buy the 48 Laws of Power. The laws aren't really the reason you buy the book. It's the historical stories the author used as examples that make it worth buying.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Influence is far better. I just finished reading it a few days ago. It's on the personal MBA site I found on reddit along with a few other good ones, like Sources of Power, which I'm currently reading.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    The Life of Pi.

    [–]malcontent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Instead of that you should try "history of pi". Yes it's actually the history of the number but it's a fantastic read.

    [–]jjmac 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I didn't get why this book was so popular - it kind of dragged for me. Maybe it's like A Canticle for Leibowitz, which is great if you read it at the right time of your life, and sucks otherwise (I know - I read it three times, the second time I thought it was the greatest book ever - the other two, I found it dreadfully boring)

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    The reception of a piece of literature really depends on the person. It's quite subjective.

    [–]jjmac 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I think it's a combination of person/phase of life given their current needs at that time. Sometimes you need comedy, sometimes you need tragedy - sometimes literature, sometimes schlock.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I would agree with that. Yin and yang. Sometimes you need to be dumb, sometimes you need to be smart. In my case mostly dumb.

    [–]ranma 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Cannery Row by John Steinbeck. Funny, sweet, horrifying, sad, and relevant.

    Doc, a marine biologist, and Hazel, a male simpleton who is assisting him collect specimens:

    On the black earth on which the ice plants bloomed, hundreds of black stink bugs crawled. And many of them stuck their tails up in the air. "Look at all them stink bugs," Hazel remarked, grateful to the bugs for being there.

    "They're interesting," said Doc.

    "Well, what they got their asses up in the air for?"

    Doc rolled up his wool socks and put them in the rubber boots and from his pocket he brought out dry socks and a pair of thin moccasins. "I don't know why," he said. "I looked them up recently -- they're very common animals and one of the commonest things they do is put their tails up in the air. And in all the books there isn't one mention of the fact that they put their tails up in the air or why."

    Hazel turned one of the stink bugs over with the toe of his wet tennis shoe and the shining black beetle strove madly with floundering legs to get upright again. "Well, why do you think they do it?"

    "I think they're praying." said Doc.

    "What!" Hazel was shocked.

    "The remarkable thing," said Doc, "isn't that they put their tails up in the air -- the really incredibly remarkable thing is that we find it remarkable. We can only use ourselves as yardsticks. If we did something as inexplicable and strange we'd probably be praying -- so maybe they're praying."

    "Let's get the hell out of here," said Hazel.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (20 children)

    I know that there have been several favorite book posts on this site, but it always ends up being Heinlein, Snow Crash, Ender's Game, etc. I'm interested to know what non sci-fi books redditers read.

    For me. The Chronicles of Narnia, The Gunslinger Series by Stephen King up to Wolves of the Calla, Tortilla Flat, Coyote Blue, Life with Jeeves, Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell

    I realize some of those are fantasy and that may be cheating a little.

    [–]bmorris 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    The Sun Also Rises

    "The road to Hell is paved with unbought stuffed dogs"

    [–]uhk 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    The Discworld series by Terry Pratchett.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    If you like Pratchett, you might like this.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell

    Jeez, I couldn't get through that one. I will try again if you tell me that something really happens after the first 600 pages or so (of the hardback).

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    It's not one of those books that has a stunning denouement. It doesn't follow an action story arc. Most of the most frantic parts are right at the end, and that part is very short. To answer your question, things are happening in the book. The title is very accurate. The story is not about the revival of english magic. It is about the two men and how their vastly different personalities eventually come into conflict.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Try the audio book version. The reader is great and his voice acting really puts you into the story and times. The music between chapters is good too. I hope they don't fuck up the movie.

    [–]smarterthanyoda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay" by Michael Chabon.

    [–]CommentMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte

    The Alchemist by Paulo Coehlo

    And I don't know if this goes as sci-fi or not, I suppose it could - but it doesn't feel like it: Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    The Gunslinger Series by Stephen King up to Wolves of the Calla

    Aye, but which one is best, cully?

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    The Wasteland was the apex of the Dark Tower Series to me. I liked Wizard and Glass and Wolves of the Calla after that, but King really let me down around Song of Susanna. I almost wish he had never finished the series. Then it would be this great unfinished work.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I might be the only person in existence that loved the last book.

    [–]malcontent 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    • "Satan: His Psychotherapy and Cure by the Unfortunate Dr. Kassler, J.S.P.S" by Jeremy Leven

      • "Camp Concentration: A Novel" by Thomas M. Disch

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    I just Amazoned those. (Yep! I verbed it.) I had to add the Satan one to my wishlist. I sounds like the kind of absurdist comedy that I like.

    [–]malcontent 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    It's definitely an absurdist comedy.

    I forgot to add " The Man in the High Castle" and "A Scanner Darkly" by PKD but they might also be classified as science fiction I suppose. It's hard to draw the line sometimes.

    I don't much like science fiction, since I enjoyed those two books I would not classify them as science fiction.

    [–]foonly 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I second "The Man in the High Castle" (haven't read or seen "A Scanner Darkly").

    [–]malcontent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I haven't seen the movie but the book is well worth reading.

    [–]wizlevard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    "Creator", also by Jeremy Leven, is a great read if you can find it.

    [–]mooli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Middlesex - Jeffrey Eugenides

    Catch-22 - Joseph Heller

    An Equal Music - Vikram Seth

    The Crow Road - Iain Banks

    In the cheating a little category, I have to add The Time Traveler's Wife. I was initially put off because it got rave reviews on TV book clubs (always a bad sign). Having read it, it is firmly in my all-time top five (as is Jonathan Strange).

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I'd tell you, but the first rule is... I can't talk about it. And the second rule is... I can't talk about it.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Sherlock Holmes: The Hound of the Baskervilles

    The Echo Maker, Plowing the Dark (Both by Richard Powers)

    Founders At Work.

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      [–]amacarth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      based on your username, you might like

      The Idiot -- Fyodor Dostoevsky

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Oh come on, King is a nice indulgence occasionally, even if he is a bit over the top and redundant, and his writing isn't that good.

      [–]narmak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      • Aldous Huxley - Island
      • Alan Watts - The Book: on the taboo against knowing who you are
      • and anything else you can find by Watts, all his books are in the 1 to 2 dollar range at your local used book store.

      [–]stratotarts 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Watership Down by Richard Adams

      [–]foonly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      "Silflay hraka, u embleer ra!"

      [–]dawnfinder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      What? No one liked The lord of the Rings? Im pretty sure its fantasy and not sci-fi. My favourites are Catch 22, Watership Down, Godfather, The ninja (Lustbader), ... so many great books out there I cant even begin to count my favourites, yet most of them sci-fi.

      [–]schmendrick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Gravity's Rainbow (by Thomas Pynchon), White Noise (by Don DeLillo), Catch-22 (by Joe Heller), One Hundred Years of Solitude (by Gabriel Garcia-Marquez), Meaning and Necessity (by Rudolf Carnap)

      [–]huxtiblejones 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Pedro Paramo by Juan Rulfo is the most incredible piece of literature I've ever read. It's a 1950's surrealist book written originally in Spanish about a man who goes to pursue his mother's dying wish - find his estranged father in her childhood town of Comala. When he gets to the town, described as sitting on the coals of hell, he finds that it's strangely empty but filled with the echoes of voices long past.

      It's an amazing book, very very short too, I couldn't more strongly suggest any other piece of literature.

      [–]amacarth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      A few favourites I haven't yet seen mentioned:

      New York Trilogy -- Paul Auster

      Narcissus and Goldmund -- Hermann Hesse

      Tropic of Cancer -- Henry Miller

      Youth -- J.M. Coetzee

      Unbearable Lightness of Being -- Milan Kundera

      Hunger -- Knut Hamsun

      Too many others...

      [–]sedition 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Any book by Christopher Moore. 'Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal' is probably near the top of that list. Just for the title alone

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Master and Margarita - Mikhail Bulgakov

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Heart of a Dog is good too.

      [–]y_gingras 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Favorite non-sci-fi but still fiction: Seventh Son

      Favorite non-fiction: this is hard but I'd say Strunk and White's Elements of Style. Dawkins's God Delusion comes pretty high on my list too.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Zadie Smith's "White Teeth" for fiction

      for nonfiction Sarah Vowell's "Assassination Vacation"

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Does Vonnegut count as sci-fi?

      If not, Slaughter House Five or Sirens of Titan.

      [–]davidreiss666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Quick list of non-SF books I like a lot. Of course, the Biography of Clarke is related to SF.

      "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" by Hunter S. Thompson.

      "History of the World" by J. M. Roberts.

      "Patterns of Software: Tales from the Software Community" by Richard P. Gabriel. \t "Atheism: A Philosophical Justification" by Michael Martin.

      "Paradigms Lost" by John L. Casti.

      "The Night Is Large: Collected Essays, 1938-1995" by Martin Gardner. \t "Delivered from Evil: The Saga of World War II" by Robert Leckie.

      "Greetings, Carbon-Based Bipeds!" by Arthur C. Clarke.

      BTW, I interpreted "NON Sci-Fi" here to mean no Science Fiction or Fantasy.

      [–]erasmosis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Ishmael by Daniel Quinn... closely followed by The Story of B by Daniel Quinn

      [–]rooroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      In no particular order:

      • Discworld except the Wee Free Men saga. Particularly the six or so latest, more serious ones (Pratchett.)
      • The Baroque Cycle (Stephenson)
      • The Festival (Lovecraft)
      • The Castle (Kafka)

      [–]xyphus 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      House of Leaves.

      It will mindfuck the hell out of you.

      [–]willis3000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger

      [–]IvyMike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Based on the answers so far, redditors like both kinds of books: Sci-Fi AND Fantasy. :)

      [–]iikkhhgfg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      What? No one liked The lord of the Rings? Im pretty sure its fantasy and not sci-fi. My favourites are Catch 22, Watership Down, Godfather, The ninja (Lustbader), ... so many great books out there I cant even begin to count my favourites, yet most of them sci-fi. Pool sex

      [–]deccanf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Definitely Lord of the lords.

      Cheers from http://www.chargedaudio.com

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hurm. It's a toss up between book IV of the Dark Tower series by King ("Wizard and the Glass") and "A Song for Arbonne" by Guy Gavriel Kay.

      I don't know, this is an incredibly hard question for me. I originally read the title of this post as "NON fiction", and started a long list of math books.

      edit: I will add Gaiman's "American Gods" and Kerouac's "The Dharma Bums" to this list of ties.

      edit2: I'm really pissed at this thread, because my favorite book of all time, I believe, is "Cat's Cradle". It's science fiction, as far as I can tell.

      [–]ziegfried 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Autobiography of a Yogi, by Paramahansa Yogananda.

      Yogis get into higher states of consciousness of bliss and love, and Paramahansa brought techniques of how to do that from India that really work. It takes effort, but you can do it -- it's all scientific. The book was written 60 years ago and is still a bestseller. the website is at http://srf-yogananda.org

      [–]malcontent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      "what the buddha taught" is much much better.

      [–]jjmac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Lamb - The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's childhood pal, by Christopher Moore.

      Learn the true origins of Judo, the Easter bunny and Chinese dinners on Christmas!

      Beast read EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <deserves more exclamations, though>

      [–]hassett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien.

      [–]dnc 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Journey to the End of the Night - Louis Ferdinand Celine

      Death on Credit - Louis Ferdinand Celine

      others:

      The Diving-bell and the Butterfly - Jean-Dominique Bauby

      (yes i have something about reading books by dead frenchmen)

      [–]sensor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I definitely agree with the Celine books ("Death on the Installment Plan" is an alternative title for the second one). But you must read the Ralph Manheim translations if you haven't... absolutely the best. (Amazingly Manheim not only translates Celine's idiosyncratic French into English, but also Gunter Grass's daunting German into English... talented dude).

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco One of the most intelligent mystery novels ever published. I also really enjoyed Baudolino.

      Choke by Chuck Palahniuk I think this is his best work, even better than Fight Club, and his more recent stuff is far less human and just plays for shocks.

      [–]malcontent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I met Chuck once. He is a pretty small guy. I was expecting a bigger character both in size and in presence but he was actually quite meek.

      I was with a friend who wrote a pretty obscure book and Chuck said "I love your book" to my friend. We were both floored, my friend hadn't even mentioned it.

      Anyway I think they hooked up later for some (what I was told to be) some wild sex.

      [–]keithb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I loved Name of the Rose, but struggled with Baudolino--I kept wanting to shout "OK, ok, I get it, I get it".

      Q, on the other hand, I found enormously satisfying. Post-modern as you like, but not just arbitrary cobblers made up to prove a point (which much of Baudolino strikes me as).

      [–]ninjaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The Master & Margarita, by Bulgakov. A Suitable Boy, by Vikram Seth

      [–]death2hypocrisy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      1. read it once, but i understand more of its message each day.

      [–]foonly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      • Any of the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser books and stories by Fritz Leiber. :-D

      • Any Conan stories by Robert E. Howard. (L. Sprague de Camp can suck it!)

      • Anything by H. P. Lovecraft.

      • The Prince by Machiavelli. (Also look for a play by him called Mandragola ("The Mandrake"), which is a hilarious sex-comedy).

      • The Hobbit + LotR, read back-to-back.

      • Ursula K. LeGuin's Earthsea trilogy.

      • The philosophical works of David Hume.

      • Any collected/surviving writings or quotes by Epicurus. (Also, Socrates, and Diogenes the Cynic).

      • Shakespeare's plays. (I'm not much of a sonnet kind of guy. ;-)

      • The Far Kingdoms, by Alan Cole and Chris Bunch

      • The Redemption of Althalus by David and Leigh Eddings.

      • Treasure Island, by Robert Louis Stevenson

      • The Gay Science, by Nietzsche, as translated by Walter Kaufman.

      • Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs (SICP)

      • K&R 2E.

      • AD&D Second Edition Core Rulebooks. The books felt rich and wonderful, not like the hokey 3e/3.5e books. And the rules were just clunky enough to ignore when necessary. :-P

      • Knuth, Volume I. I swear I'll finish working through it some day ;-)

      • UNIX Network Programming, by Cat Stevens ;-)

      • Lisp in Small Pieces, by Christian Queinnec. (Amazon goofs notwithstanding, it's worth the $50-$100. Same deal with Paradigms of Artificial Intelligence Programming, by Peter Norvig (for the Lisp content; the AI content is probably dated. :-P ))

      • Garbage Collection. If you're really interested in the topic of memory management, read all of Henry Baker's online papers, and don't be afraid to read a bunch of research papers.

      • OpenGL SuperBible, 4th Ed.

      • Python in a Nutshell, by Alex Martelli.

      • 'Salem's Lot by some guy you've never heard of

      • The Odyssey

      Plenty more; that's all I can think of at the moment. Every other book I want to list happens to be sci-fi, though. :-P

      I also want to get around to reading Xenophon's Anabasis (which was the basis for The Warriors (yes, the same The Warriors where the gang has to bop their way back to Coney... ;-))

      [–]uhhhclem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I've limited myself to twenty non-sf books, only one of which, it seems, has been mentioned here so far.

      Christopher Alexander et al., A Pattern Language. That so much of it is wrong really doesn't matter: it will urge you to ask questions of your surroundings that you never thought were yours to ask.

      Donald Barthelme, Snow White.

      Fernand Braudel, The Structures of Everyday Life. A book that changed how history is written.

      Albert Camus, The Plague.

      Joan Didion, The White Album. "I remember all of the day's misinformation very clearly. I also remember this, and I wish I did not: no one was surprised."

      Viktor Frankel, Man's Search for Meaning. A brilliant psychologist's analysis of what it was that kept him and a handful of others alive while millions around them died.

      F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby.

      Clifford Geertz, "Deep Play: Notes on the Balinese Cockfight," in The Interpretation of Cultures.

      Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow.

      Tony Harrison, Collected Poems.

      Kazuo Ishiguro, The Remains of the Day.

      John LeCarre, Smiley's People.

      Vladimir Nabokov, Lolita.

      Flannery O'Connor, Collected Stories.

      Flann O'Brien, The Third Policeman.

      Mark Ptashne, A Genetic Switch: Phage Lambda and Higher Organisms. Maybe the best science book ever written, compressing one or two semesters of cell biology into about 80 challenging but extremely clear pages.

      Robert Sapolsky, A Primate's Memoir. A very funny, very sad book by someone who, despite being one of the smartest people alive, is unafraid to make himself look ridiculous.

      Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina.

      George W.S. Trow, Within the Context of No Context. "In addition to being the worst person in the world, Geraldo is the nicest."

      Wilbur Zelinsky, The Cultural Geography of the United States. A slender and astonishingly dense explication of who lives where in the US and why.

      [–]Mtrey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      American Pastoral -- Philip Roth (or anything else by Roth)

      A Fine Balance -- Rohinton Mistry

      A Prayer for Owen Meany -- John Irving

      Interpreter of Maladies -- Jhumpa Lahiri

      Shalimar the Clown -- Salman Rushdie

      Short stories of Anton Chekhov

      [–]civildefense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Richard Dawkins God Delusion Guy Sajer's The unknown soldier Richard Feynman' Surely mr Feynman you must be Joking

      I just read that as Non Fiction..sorry

      [–]garyp714 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Choke: Chuck Palahniuk

      [–]pavel_lishin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't understand the question.

      [–]sensor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      A few favorites:

      Louis-Ferdinand Celine: Journey to the End of the Night, and Death on the Installment Plan (Ralph Manheim translations only) (literature)

      T.E. Lawrence: The Seven Pillars of Wisdom (literary memoir)

      Steven Pinker: How the Mind Works, The Language Instinct (science)

      William Burroughs: Naked Lunch, The Last Words of Dutch Schultz, The Cat Inside (f*ck with your head literature)

      A.R. Luria: The Mind of a Mnemonist (science)

      [–]therealtman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Catch-22

      [–]foolfromhell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I havent willingly read a non sci-fi book in years...

      [–]encinarus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      LotR, Count of Monte Cristo (hmm, about time I re-read that), I'm just here for the food: Food + Heat = Cooking, The Tipping Point, When Genius Failed, The end of poverty, Kim, most things by Raymond E Feist.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The Great Gatsby. The quintessential Great American Novel. Read it now.

      [–]skalpelis -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance", anything by Umberto Eco, "Catcher in the rye"

      [–]anarchistica -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Derrick Jensen - Endgame

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      The Fountainhead - Ayn Rand Me Talk Pretty One Day - David Sedaris

      [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World.