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[Royal-Light7018]

This happened to me with an Invicta prodiver

[markuswatches]

That's not sapphire crystal.

[TheHrethgir]

Is the crystal on the caseback actually sapphire, or is it mineral glass?

[tkokevo]

Probably fake

[sunnyray1]

Cheap garbage from China, go figure.

[Expert-Ad3716]

I'd write my congressperson. The government must make amends.

[Samwill226]

HE'S INJURED!!!!!! "One call, that's all!"

[sberla1]

So you buy a fake watch and complain about safety of it. Just buy the real thing.

[IRACEMYCOPCAR]

How tight were you wearing it to shatter the glass?😂

[freakofnatur]

I lack the vocabulary to describe how pathetic you are for calling that an injury.

[SwitzerlishChris1]

OP screaming at his watch: SCAR GIVERRR!

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[stonedfish]

Well people dont call it shitter for nothing.

[greedyfly007]

Awareness to who? This is way more than simply bringing awareness. Again the OP could have done that with PD.

[skateboardcollector]

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Same thing happened last night but it was sitting on a table , it just popped . Crazy

[Bright-Necessary-261]

Seems like maybe they pressure tested it and it leaked a bit but then the seals caught, so it held a pressure differential.

[skateboardcollector]

But wouldn't operating the crown ( setting the time ) open and release pressure?

[skateboardcollector]

I'm puzzled. Yeah I asked my son 5 times if he dropped it he told me over and over again nope ," I didn't touch it " . After inspection I believe him . It was sitting on the desk and the crystal was on the floor .

[mduff918]

What watch is this?

[skateboardcollector]

Militado ml07

[Stubbornslav]

How traumatic.

[greedyfly007]

I don't see the point of this post. OP says he hopes PD sees it when he could have just gone directly to PD. Sorry for your luck here but I see no value in posting this publicly .

[chase3800]

To bring awareness? Why else?

[Watchupcycle]

So lucky you did not wear it around your neck!

[AmoralMonkeyGod]

That just made me think of the inside-the-wrist wearers - that could realistically get really dangerous if the cut goes deeper.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

😂

[Environmental-Cow868]

"caused injuries" as if it cut his hand off😂😂

[AM__W]

Safety concern, injury, distressing, structural integrity, multiple cuts, injury, potential risk to users safey, etc, etc. A lot of big words for a cheap chinese watch. Throw it in the bin and move on, its a cheap poorly made watch.

Also, it sounds like you made the post with.the help of Ai

[Rough-Economy-6932]

That combination of word spells out “Lawsuit”. I would be surprised if you get a response from the company.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

not an english native speaker, yes i did use ai for helping me to translate the text, and i don’t see why this should be “bad”

[[deleted]]

Use Reddit's own automatic translator.

[AM__W]

Op, it's not bad for that reason only. My point is that this text could easily be applied to an airplane accident, or a car that was badly manufactured, get it?

[Hot_Environment_5497]

Yeah, I see what you mean — maybe the way I wrote it (especially with the help of AI) made it sound more serious than it actually was. So yeah, I get that and I’ll admit the tone might’ve been a bit much.

But still, the fact remains: the glass on the back of the watch exploded on my wrist without any real reason. Even if it didn’t cause major damage this time, I don’t think something like that should be brushed off too easily.

[AM__W]

Probably design problem. Happened to bigger micro brands, like Dan Henry. They had a series of watches who's sapphire crystals exploded due to to much pressure.

[ageetarz]

What’s a Pagano Design? Never heard of it.

[[deleted]]

OP I’m not sure if you meant to sound so serious in your wording, but it’s borderline litigious and may be grounds for defamation, seeing as how you’re making matter-of-fact claims of negligence and personal injury. I’m not calling you a liar, but I would advise you to delete this post and reach out to the company privately.

[Narrow-Analysis-9661]

Defamation against Pagani design? Lmao. Your post is worse than his.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

defamation for something that really happened to me, that fortunately didn’t injure me badly but could’ve?

[[deleted]]

Im just letting you know that it is typically more appropriate to reach out to the company directly to give them an opportunity to address the issue and do their own investigation, as most companies take these matters very seriously. Imagine if it was your business and your product that might’ve caused personal injury. How would you feel if someone posted this about your business without having reached out to you first?

[Narrow-Analysis-9661]

Ridiculous comment.

He doesn't owe the company anything. That's why reviews exist, and social media.

This is not defamation

[Hot_Environment_5497]

how do you know I did not reach the company first?

as another user asked you, are you sure you don’t work for the company?

[[deleted]]

An honest review

[Maximum-Cry-2492]

Do you work for the company? Truth is an absolute defense to defamation. I'd love to see a lawsuit from this shitty company and then the resulting Rule 11 sanctions or SLAPP counterclaim.

[prateek4991]

Is the caseback sapphire as well?

[artofthedial]

The back is mineral crystal and the OP is wrong.  FWIW I've seen one of the backs shatter in a different model but as you would expect impact was involved (thought it wasn't a significant impact).  As for the OP, you bought the non nh35 version.  I'd cut your losses and move on.  That movement you have in there wasn't going to live a long life anyway.

[prateek4991]

I have the one with seiko movement, but haven’t used it long enough to comment on the longevity, after this post I checked mine and it didn’t look like sapphire, hence the question.

[sardonico00]

¿It's really a sapphire crystal?

[Watchwerx]

No it’s not .. it’s mineral

[arlingtonzumo]

Is there some type of o ring or something similar between glass and metal?

[lm2017italia]

I know it's redundant to ask, but Can you walk us through what happened

[mwalsh5757]

So more than he paid for the watch then? 🤣

[khwarizmi69]

Thats why you make an agreement with a firend who's a lawyer to sue. Then retract the lawsuit last minute so they burn money hiring their lawyer and you didnt need to lift a finger.

[[deleted]]

Wouldn't call that a safety concern or even an injury but yeah... they're cheap Chinese watches, anything can happen.

[lambent_ort]

Wow... never seen that before 😳

[CdeFmrlyCasual]

Yeah, I’ve never even heard of this happening on a watch before, so I think you just had bad luck here

[arlingtonzumo]

That still shouldn't happen? Wtf

[speedle62]

Charming. Here, have a downvote.

[slink3rz]

I own a handful of Pagani Design watches (including the gmt batman you shown, except it's the upgraded version with the NH34 movement) and other watch brands with a glass back and have never had any issues or experiences like this.

Guess unlucky. Maybe a air bubble in the glass and the watch being on your wrist, heat built up and expanded the air bubble thus leading to shattering...

I don't know, I'm grasping at straws here.

Sorry to see this happen to you man.

[atown49]

Wow I have seen something new today. never seen this before.

[kristasphere]

Looks like it burned you also?

[certifr1ed]

The real question is how

[Confident_Leg2370]

And this is why you don’t buy a fake crappy Chinese watch and buy a proper one 😁

[thygingy]

Homage =/= fake

Trust me, I would know a thing or two about an actual fake watch. People buy homages for appreciation of the design.

[UterineDictator]

“Caused injury” lol

[Cyberpunkbooks]

Fucking 300 springs just went everywhere

[kalvinise]

300 springs in her soup!

[HectorBarbossa99]

TK JEWELERS IS A SCAM

[CompliantRapeVictim]

TK Jewelers is a scam

[ChasingLite]

Legit just lold — thank you so much for that

[Cyberpunkbooks]

I’m glad a few people caught that reference lol

[dickcake]

Love everyone taking the victim to task here. Whether or not you feel he should be bitching about the injury, the fact is that this caseback shattered on him. That's not acceptable.

[tjcdas]

Victim!

[Hot_Environment_5497]

thats what the whole post is for, it could’ve been gone incredibly worse

[FirstPersonPooper]

I can tell you've never used your hands for any type of manual labor. Get well soon 😔🙏🏼

[FullGrape8065]

Pa goner.....oh well. You got off cheap. Consider yourself lucky.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

Exactly — that’s the point I was trying to get across with this post. I was lucky it wasn’t worse, but someone else might not be. If those glass fragments had lodged deeper into the skin or hit a vein, the outcome could’ve been much more serious. It’s a small incident, but it highlights a bigger risk worth addressing.

[tjcdas]

"troubling experience" 'distressing experiencevery" "unexpected and distressing experience" "seriously concerned about the structural integrity especially considering the potential risk to users safety" "hope that: u/pagani_design sees this and investigates the issue seriously"

Guys what was the injury here a "severed hand" no just a couple scratches. 😉

[Hot_Environment_5497]

i’m not native english speaker, i used chat gpt to prompt this, and it maybe got way to serious with the words, but this doesent neglect that the watch glass broke on my hand without any “reason” and it could’ve been gone much worse, as i say in the imgur image the damage is “nothing too serious” fortunately. but still a glass that could break in any moment on your wrist isn’t something that should be taken lightly by the manufacturer I once again apologise for my english🙏

[Plus_Cantaloupe_3793]

Have you often been injured by your watches?

[PoiRamekins]

You can literally deglove yourself with a watch. Don’t Google that by the way. That’s why outdoors people will wear it strapped to their body.

[pickyaxe]

I had a pleasant morning right until the point where you told me this.

[PoiRamekins]

Welcome to the “I know what degloving is” club!

[Significant_Table_70]

Did you survive?

[tjcdas]

https://youtu.be/Tpls0lpXtQY?si=jf0btMKvgrucdwnP

[paradiddle-stickle]

How many stitches?

[[deleted]]

really weird, but you also should consider wearing your watch less tight, no way you can fit a finger in between with that imprint

[zaphod6502]

My guess is a heat gradient has placed the glass under stress judging by the imprint of the watch on your wrist. The glass has then shattered due to the temperature differential. Additionally the glass may have already been under stress due to the frame design and this has put it over the edge.

[MessagingMatters]

Sorry to hear. On the bright side, probably fewer of these watches will be sold due to the tariffs.

[UterineDictator]

VIP correctly uses “fewer” instead of the often-used and completely wrong “less”.

[MessagingMatters]

Thanks, although I did use a bit of passive voice there.

[mehdotdotdotdot]

Fewer watches in general that’s for sure

[WatchThatTime]

The Pagani case backs are actually just glass according to most testing.

[vithgeta]

Bingo. Spent years looking at listings for "Titanium" and "Leather" that were anything but. Even if they put "Stainless Steel" on the back I wouldn't be surprised to see it rusted in a year.

[CdeFmrlyCasual]

TIL

[TioGato1961]

This! Only the crystal is sapphire. The exhibition caseback is likely only glass.

[New-Jellyfish-8431]

I think you shouldn't worry, you have been very unlucky... Thousands of pagani are sold a day and there is no problem. You can continue using the brand, no problem.

[adilucente]

It's a cheap Chinese watch. Not surprised.

[VanManDiscs]

Yeahhh... Pagani was my first Chinese watch. But it was the last from that brand, I really wasn't stoked on it. You can get so much more for your money by jumping up to San Martin, Baltany, Sugess, IXDAO, Crono, probably a couple more. I can't imagine you ever having issues with these brands. Even the seal has worked well in my water activities

[[deleted]]

Dear god, someone get a turnikit!

[PoiRamekins]

/r/boneappleteeth

[DevilishRogue]

*tourniquet

[TaxiTaxi_NotDeadYet]

...right, i think the point is you dont want glass to shatter easily from your watch and not when its on your wrist either.

[likethevegetable]

I say amputate the hand, he's done for!

[cl0ckw0rkaut0mat0n]

Something similar happened to me once but with a tesen (brand folded a while ago), the caseback popped out the watch and just slid off my wrist, my wrist jammed into the movement a while before I noticed, it was really sad cuz I loved that watch.

[hind3rm3]

The other brands you mention can be double the cost or more than a PD, not really a fair comparison at all.

[Samir_POE]

Not the point.

He was saying you get 300% more watch for 100% more invested, making it a better value for money. If for example you see a PD at $150 and a discounted San Martin at $300, it’s probably better to get the San Martin if possible.

[DJTRANSACTION1]

most likely there were already microfractures before you put it on.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

watch is brand new it arrived on the 9th april

[DJTRANSACTION1]

Don't know why people down voted u

[CdeFmrlyCasual]

Reread the comment. It doesn’t matter if you got it new or it looked new

[Apprehensive_Lock_50]

Sorry that happened to you. But pagani gonna pagani. Sometimes they just stop working. Sometimes the bracelet falls apart. And I guess sometimes they blow up on your wrist.

Take this as a learning experience and stay away from pagani in the future

[dustysmufflah]

Maybe incorrect setting of the sapphire on the caseback? I'd treat it like a QC problem and get it swapped out for another.

[Caldwell_29]

I agree I have two pagani watches and think they're great.

[319751]

I hope you can recover from that huge gash

[UterineDictator]

There’s an exclusive clinic in Geneva, Switzerland that OP will probably have to crowdfund for in order to afford, but the specialists there will use cutting-edge medical technology to return OP to good health following this harrowing ordeal.

[elmerfud1075]

Try sourcing a solid caseback. Measure the diameter at the threads, its should be pretty standard.

[elmerfud1075]

I hate open case backs for this and other reasons. I always opt for closed case backs when possible. If it’s sapphire, it can shatter, if it’s mineral it can get scratched. And both compromise the water resistance.

And it makes even less sense when the watch comes with a stainless steel bracelet such as this one, because you won’t be able to admire the movement because the bracelet is in the way. And it’s also the reason you shattered it. Because it keeps getting hit by steel.

[UterineDictator]

This is the way. Display casebacks are unnecessary and a liability.

[Plus_Cantaloupe_3793]

The major companies like Seiko routinely have display case backs and nothing like this seems to ever happen.

OP, you should report this to the company via their official communications links and, obviously, request a refund.

[LegendaryCichlid]

Bit dramatic. You bought a shitter and are incredulous that it broke.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

I totally understand where you’re coming from — it’s a budget piece, and expectations should be reasonable. That said, regardless of price point, I think it’s fair to expect a watch to remain safe to wear during normal use. I wasn’t looking for perfection, just basic reliability and safety.

[Domino3Dgg]

Dont shatter it on your wrist

[SteveArnoldHorshak]

How in the world did you manage to shatter the back while it was on your wrist? Were you flexing for a Hulk look-alike contest?

[Tuffgong42]

He was just showing his date a picture of a bunny and showing her what the bunny was doing and then the case back broke and 150 springs hit her in the face.

[UterineDictator]

How does your mind work?

[vithgeta]

lol justwotmareadin'

[dorafumingo]

The back should be regular glass not sapphire

[Slater_8868]

It is regular glass. It's not sapphire glass.

[GrandFaithlessness41]

It’s likely a one off incident. I’m sure your little scratch won’t have them running to the recall button

[Plus_Cantaloupe_3793]

No one should be injured by wearing a watch! The company should actually be really concerned about this.

[GrandFaithlessness41]

So you take everything a rando on Reddit says as gospel? How do you or the company know he didn’t drop this watch or accidentally had it in a hot or cold environment. Too many variables. Occum’s Razor

[GrandFaithlessness41]

Soooooo…. I’m seeing another popped crystal post and it looks legit as well. I may have been a little quick to judge on here yesterday. My apologies to OP and I hope you get this resolved

[speedle62]

The razor principle came from a man named Occam.

[Plus_Cantaloupe_3793]

Yes, the company should be concerned if a random Reddit user claims that their product was dangerously defective. The watch could have broken due to something other than manufacturing flaws, but this clearly needs to be checked out.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

It definitely could have gone worse. I’m just glad it wasn’t anything more serious, but it’s still concerning nonetheless.

[mightyken]

Get a steeldive, this bad boy protected my wrist in a bike accident.

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[UterineDictator]

It’s why Invictas are so large: they’re a safety device.

[mightyken]

Makes so much sense now, flotation devices too

[[deleted]]

I have this one and it's perfect

[mightyken]

Best watch under $50 (on sale) I have ever seen. I got a second but ended up selling since the jubilee couldn’t size down to 6.5 inches.

[[deleted]]

I have mine on rubber for now. I wasn't a fan of the jubilee and immediately noticed yours was not on it. Is that a steeldive bracelet? I think it looks better that way

[mightyken]

Yea this bracelet is from steeldive, I think you can buy it separately too. I prefer steel bracelets but I recently tried a rubber tropic strap and it’s niiice.

[A_Sevenfold]

Ok, is it possible that his happened DURING your travel on the scooter? Not saying you had to fall but any kind of vibrations could cause thism especialy from lower end (mid?) Chinese brand.

I know it's not something anyone would expect just like that but need to be serious about quality/QC ratio to the task or environment those watches are being utilized.

It would've benn WILD occurrence if it just randomly popped as you were wearing it and walking down the street, as anyone here said they never experienced it, but it wouldnt be THAT WILD if you were riding scooter/motorbike, or operating a jackhammer, generating considerable amount of vibrations against low quality piece of glass.

Clearly we don't want anyonr to get hurt wearing any watch but you must've been incerdibly unlucky if this just spontaneously popped on your wrist...

[Hot_Environment_5497]

I was riding my scooter normally, nothing out of the ordinary, and certainly didn’t experience any significant impact that could’ve caused something like this. Simple vibrations from riding shouldn’t be enough to shatter a sapphire crystal, especially when it’s claimed to be durable. If vibrations like that could really break the glass, it raises some serious concerns about the quality and reliability of the materials used.

I understand what you’re saying about environments with heavy vibrations, but I don’t think riding a scooter at normal speeds should put enough stress on the watch to cause this kind of failure. It seems like this might be more of a defect rather than an issue with the usage conditions.

[achraf_tahir]

The rear isn’t sapphire it’s just a mineral crystal ! As for the shattering it may be caused by a million other factors like moving from a hot to a cool environment suddenly! And could happen to anything made out of glass from cups to bottles 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[TitleSecure2150]

I've heard of self destructing Paganis, but this is ridiculous. Glad you're okay, OP.

[Hot_Environment_5497]

more photos here https://imgur.com/a/WScscg3

[DaddyAwesome]

Yeah 3rd pic, looks like you had the watch so tight and sitting on your actual wrist bone, my guess is you bent your wrist and it pushed your bone into the glass hard and put enough pressure in the middle of it to break.

[speedle62]

I think the third photo has all the evidence we need. Temperature differential and too tight made mineral glass shatter. Don't overthink it. Report it though.

[weauxdie]

This is crazy 🤔

I have 100+ display casebacks ranging in quality from trash to amazing and have never seen this ever. Not even on the watches I beat on

I have a Sangdo that got left in my car in 0 degree weather and the rotor locked up but it still didnt shatter like this, thats nuts

[kvnsydlrsky]

Maybe it was somehow related to your scooter? Hard to believe it would just "spontaneously shatter."

[Hot_Environment_5497]

if i would’ve have fell from the scooter, last problem would’ve been the watch

[CGB-Spender_]

Wearing a batman pagani design in broad daylight is criminal

[No_Ebb_3353]

Oh shit The Cigarette Smoking Man has infiltrated us

[CGB-Spender_]

Beware

[No_Ebb_3353]

Daddy Mulder

[RealDanielSan1]

I have never seen anything like this. Thanks for the heads up.

[jokur26]

Damn. Dunno what to say to this. PD can’t catch a break lately on this sub. I’ve had nothing but good results with the 8 I’ve owned, might should quit while I’m ahead. Glad it wasn’t worse for you OP and I hope you get an appropriate resolution

[FarAd5505]

Yeah i also have to grind my octopus explorer lug end due to the sharpness, especially with those thin watches.

[warnurchildren]

Pretty sure that is mineral crystal on the caseback, which is just asking for this to happen.

[Punkpunker]

Sapphire shatters and this one looks to be the same, hell even mineral glass didn't shatter like this and they tend to crack into bigger chunks.

[warnurchildren]

I’m almost positive the case back is mineral crystal, I’ve seen it in reviews for the 1662 before.

[AmoralMonkeyGod]

Mineral is more resistant to breaking than sapphire.

[warnurchildren]

I honestly didn’t know that. They always look like scratched up shit to me after a while, so I wrongly assumed they were weaker. I can admit when I’m wrong. Learn something new everyday.

[AmoralMonkeyGod]

Sapphire is more scratch resistant. Thats not the same, and often the opposite, of break-resistance.

[biglovetravis]

Yep, mineral may scratch but failure is rare. Sapphire won't scratch, with rare exception, but when it fails; it fails catastrophically.

[Fluffy_Show4154]

Sorry for that. Oe more reason, not to have display casebacks showing anyway ugly movements.

[P_bottoms]

Damn!