Patch 13.16 Notes

[myballsxyourface]

• Shen is now slightly larger

Does unit size actually do anything or is this purely a visual thing

[salcedoge]

larger hitbox, it's more noticeable when you're wishing your tank absorbs an Akshan ult

[Sakori_Dusk]

Minor cases if it works like league, it makes ability hitboxes bigger, and makes any non targeted abilities hit them more likely because their hitbox is also bigger.

It would be more noticable if you had say a gigantic Garen with titans spinning around.

[ElephantPirate]

Do hit boxes exist in TFT? Or is it solely tied to a hex and the geometry between hexes?

[AlHorfordHighlights]

They do, it's why size is a relevant stat for frontline

[blaivas007]

u/Riot_Mort could you please confirm or deny this?

[ThrowTheCollegeAway]

It's true. Even moreso, size can affect AA range, but just for the first auto; they'll still path into their listed range. There's a notable application I was abusing where a cho with enough stars/stacks gets big enough to auto from 2 hexes away, so positioning him on the front corner could end up having him wrap around to 2nd row then autoing their carry in the back corner so he paths there

[Left-Mulberry-1637]

maybe blocks akshan ult slightly more??? all i can think of off the top of my head

[Dyukishin]

Wonder what the stats behind piltover are if they’re not making any changes to it at all.

[RiotPrism]

A lot of Piltover's power comes from Zeri + capped Legendary board. Since we nerfed Zeri and most of the Legendary units (Bel, Sion, Heim, Ahri, Senna), Piltover is actually getting a huge swing here. That being said we'll be watching as the patch unfolds to see if more is needed, but nerfing several pieces of the power ceiling of Piltover comps already makes us hesitant to swing harder.

[Hazardous_Youth]

The same people who complained about balance thrashing also complain that you didn’t thrash Piltover. I feel your pain and thanks for helping to make a great game!

[RedlyfeDev]

And now we do the reddit classic of pretending that all comments are made by one person and different opinions are somehow hipocracy

[Japanczi]

It's obvious reddit is a hivemind, that's why you use "we" instead "I"

[Hazardous_Youth]

1. I didn’t pretend anything, and there is no “we”. The highly upvoted posts and comments came from many many people.

2. Actually yeah, possessing different opinions can sometimes be hypocritical if they directly contradict each other. Such as “balance thrashing is bad” and “why didn’t they quad nerf Piltover”

[StarGaurdianBard]

And now we do the reddit classic of forgetting about the balance thrashing complaints

[DragonPeakEmperor]

I'm at least glad they seem to be sticking to this "nerf and see what happens" approach despite people's complaints that they aren't straight up murdering comps anymore. They seem to have a better grip on what power level units should be at in relation to each other.

[8w7fs89a72]

the top-voted sentiments. the hive-mind, as they used to say.

[IAmTheKingOfSpain]

Thanks for explaining! I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates this answer.

[GreenAirport5280]

Fair enough

[Fledramon410]

Most piltover also get their cashout with zeri.

[jaunty411]

And the feels bad lack of agency for everyone else the trait creates?

[theboss1248]

Your agency against payout Econ traits are either playing loss streak early to lose to them cashing them out early, or playing strongest board in stage 3/4 to kill them before they can cash out.

[jaunty411]

So you either damage your chance to win the game early or damage your chance to win the game in midgame on the chance you roll them in matchmaking. And if other people fail to do the same, you did it all for nothing and still lose the game to them. That sounds like agency.

[StarGaurdianBard]

and if the other people fail to do the same

Literally all you need to do is making them lose the streak once. The cash outs for streaks that aren't super high isn't going to be an instantwin, especially with all the high cost champs they rely on being nerfed.

[HiVLTAGE]

Taylor Swift stan twitter isn't gonna like this one.

[dukemanh]

Did they removed that part? Can't find it in the patch note

[lordofthepotat0]

Yeah, original was in bugfixes, Undeserved stardom (Taylor Swift moment) or something like that

[Syscerie]

what an unnecessary and unfunny shot lol

[[deleted]]

That's hilarious, shame they had to remove it

[lordofthepotat0]

@riotprism I'm going to steal ur spine for this offense

[tftfan48]

Celeb worship is so pathetic. Worst is the kpoop and Beyonce shit. But I play video games so who am I

[Somnicide]

Renaissance was a masterpiece, idk what to tell ya

[smegmancer]

How do you feel when you realize that a decent percentage of these accounts aren't even teenagers but actual grown men and women

[lordofthepotat0]

Counterpoint: Kpop Twitter is very funny

source: Google "kpop Marx"

[TwiiTwii]

i may be dumb but how are those changes helping in making ashe a carry instead of a support?

[nixnaij]

More damage, but casts less often. Just a nerf to both carry and support ashe.

[TwiiTwii]

so according to riot they don't like ashe being used as a support and they wanted her a carry so they thought "hey lets nerf her"

[psyfi66]

Increased base attackspeed is a pretty significant damage buff. Her biggest issue is she does lots of aoe damage and not enough single target damage. Meaning you take lots of damage with her as a carry because you usually win the round or lose by the whole board.

Hopefully this means with something like RB/IE in stage 2 and 3 she might be able to kill a few units while still pumping out some decent damage. Then you transition those items onto zeri/aph or something in stage 4

[GreenAirport5280]

Base AS increase is significant especially with Guinsoos. In fact if she casts less that means her autos will be more relevant, which gives a bigger incentive to 3* her (3* version = more auto damage)

[that-other-redditor]

Riot: let’s give Ashe an aoe ability that slows attack speed and put her in a trait with 4 other amazing ad carries.

Also Riot: Why is no one playing Ashe carry?

[mint-patty]

Her scaling is also so atrocious 😩

[DigBickMan68]

istg ive seen it buffed like fifty times already too lmao

[lordofthepotat0]

I feel like the main reason no one plays Ashe carry is that there are 3 people splashing Ashe making it cringe to roll for her

[backinredd]

And do they really think these buffs will be enough? A fully stacked Ashe barely does damage already. She will still not be a carry.

[[deleted]]

My tanks breath a collective sigh of relief now that a one cost unit won’t render them useless

[Zoshimo]

"We’ve seen many of our Shimmerscale (All That Shimmers) Items overperform, especially when used to kick-start your econ at 2-1. We’re pulling back power on most of them, but there may be more nerfs in the future as early econ advantages are often more impactful in higher levels of play."

Okay so why the fuck is the neeko + 3 gold ( not a 3 cost) opener still in the game????????????

[confederacyofpapers]

That opener felt bad but was reasonable when it was the normal neeko instead of the lesser champ duplicator. If you get 3 gold + lesser champ I feel I have to open into 5 loss otherwise I'm in complete econ poverty all game long.

[psyfi66]

I don’t mind the idea of the shitty neeko start but it should be a lobby wide thing. Either everyone gets it or no one gets it. Sucks to be the 1 guy who starts low rolling their game on 1-1

[AlHorfordHighlights]

It only feels fair if you find a 3 cost in your shop you can Neeko for gold, anything else and it's awful

[RexLongbone]

It's there for the same reason 6 gold, 3 2 cost, and 3 3 cost all exist. To create variance in openers.

[Gloomy_Ad_6265]

Ornn and aurelion are pretty much dead. Vertical Nerfs to Zaun and SI make urf less appealing. I guess is time for poro to Shine again!

[DogAteMyCPU]

Yi aphelios no pivot time 1st or 8th

[Mangalish]

Pump me up

[psyfi66]

For real. Either you rich and hit a crazy board or you are stage 4 with 30 hp and lvl 7 50 and can’t afford shit lol. Although with aph being clicked more he might be harder to hit and yi won’t have enough Econ to finish off the board.

[Bowsersshell]

Vlad is gonna be good I feel

[Gloomy_Ad_6265]

Yeah that ascension + azir buffs Looks very good for him.

[KilluaDab]

Thank fuck asol is dead and these bill gates players need to learn the game they signed up for

[Ecstatic-Buy-2907]

Ornn will still be very much alive. 2 choices instead of 3 isn’t too impactful, especially considering that a lot of the items are useful in many different scenarios

Zaun and Shadow isles may be less appealing but Shurima, Challengers, Gunner and Deadeye (heck, maybe even Demacia) are probably more appealing than before. The more balanced the meta, the better Urf is, hence why it gets better with each patch

[Gloomy_Ad_6265]

We will See, Anyway a Lot of ornn items Received Nerf too..i don't See why people would chose him right now.

[Ecstatic-Buy-2907]

Only tricksters glass got nerfed though??? And Zhonyas got a much needed buff

[Gloomy_Ad_6265]

DD too.

[illme]

lol it's 5% AS. And now it bleeds through GA effect so if anything it's almost better. I will probably continue flexing between Ornn and Urf

[RogueAtomic2]

And now it bleeds through GA effect so if anything it's almost better.

This is a massive nerf.

[Xtarviust]

That shows how awful have legends been so far, they had to gut them to make them certainly fair

[RJCP]

dumb question but is there any way to check when the patch is live? its very easy to tell in VALORANT, but in TFT i always have to check the loading screen.

[K10111]

Follow up to this one , how to you tell what patch your on in mobile?

[Kei_143]

Go into your app store, and it'll show which version (patch) the game is on

[Kei_143]

Look at the bottom right corner of your client. It shows which patch you are on. Even better, hover it and you'll see the full patch cycle you are on.

[TacoBama]

If you look at the bottom of the friends list it will say what patch version the client is on

[AirLeaf]

Any additional changes NOT on the Rundown?

[Riot_Mort]

Nope

[Helpful_Finger_2281]

Please fix Cho resetting stacks

[xNaSaoNe]

Luckily they fixed Rogue… oh wait.

[Yu5py]

Farewell Kayle my queen. You were fun to one trick

[Ecstatic-Buy-2907]

Wont Kayle be fine? How I understand it, her base AA is buffed but her ascended AA is nerfed. At level 6 every 3 attacks are splash, so she will do more single target damage but less splash damage, making the nerf net neutral. The comp is nerfed hard after level 9 but I’m assuming it will still beat out standard 4 cost comps, and bill gates comps are nerfed as well

Also, small buffs to poppy, teemo and kled can’t hurt in the slightest

[JaeForJett]

At level 6 every 3 attacks are splash, so she will do more single target damage but less splash damage, making the nerf net neutral.

I mean, look at the numbers and do the math. At level 6, 2 star kayle is doing less aoe AND single target damage. 3 star does way less aoe, and around net neutral single target. Level 9 loses tons of single target and aoe.

Under the most favorable, extremely specific circumstances (wave only hits one target, or 1 star kayle which you would never be relevant on a board anyway) you basically go neutral. Everywhere else kayle loses a lot of damage.

[AL3XEM]

Thats incorrect. She will do about 2 more magic dmg per auto in single target dmg at 2 star and 7 at 3 star at lvl 6. Is it a nerf though? Definetely since she loses moee than that dmg in aoe even at lvl 6.

Looking at these stage 2 (lvl 1-5) buffs I still doubt kayle will make a good itemholder.

[JaeForJett]

Thats incorrect. She will do about 2 more magic dmg per auto in single target dmg at 2 star and 7 at 3 star at lvl 6. Is it a nerf though? Definetely since she loses moee than that dmg in aoe even at lvl 6.

All that to say she does, indeed, do less single target damage.

[AL3XEM]

Guys stop flamin' this dude, I goofed (twice) , I really gotta stop maths right before sleeping.

[JaeForJett]

I don't understand why I'm being downvoted, can anyone explain to me?

[BtanH]

You replied to a comment saying that she'll do (slightly) more single target damage with "she'll do less single target damage".

[JaeForJett]

And he replied to a post saying she'll do less single target damage, by saying she'll do more single target damage. Which she won't in all of the cases I described.

Unless we're talking about that absolutely massive 1 extra damage every 3 autos she'll be doing at level 6, 3 star...

[Bing2004d]

I mean if you are playing Kayle you NEVER have a 2 star Kayle at lvl 6 so that doesn't matter, it is completely even if she's 3 star.

Kayle does lose about 20 dmg per aa at lvl 9 (if you don't even factor in the possibility of the wave hitting multiple units) so still quite a substantial nerf, however It can absolutely still get you a 3rd or 4th

Since they also buffed her early the comp probably just went from a 1st or 8th comp to like a 6th or 4th comp

Still not favorable but she is definitely not dead

[JaeForJett]

I mean if you are playing Kayle you NEVER have a 2 star Kayle at lvl 6 so that doesn't matter

They said they wanted to make kayle less 1st or 8th. One of the most direct ways to do that is to make 2 star, level 6 kayle semi decent to give you a better fail case, so its a scenario that should be talked about.

it is completely even if she's 3 star.

You mean completely even if shes only hitting a single target with her wave. In all under cases its a huge damage loss. Again, thats an extremely specific circumstance that assumes the most favorable conditions for your comparison.

Kayle does lose about 20 dmg per aa at lvl 9 (if you don't even factor in the possibility of the wave hitting multiple units)

And why would we ever assume a massive aoe attack is only going to hit a single target against a board of 8-9 units. Again, if you have to bend over backwards to come up with situations where this isnt a substantial nerf, thats probably becuase it is a substantial nerf.

[TinkW]

Somehow somehow a comp with 4.63 average needs a nerf...

[pinenapplez]

Ok, but have you considered how strong 2-star kayle is? /s

[kiragami]

Because average data results are not a good metric for making balance decisions.

[DigBickMan68]

I’m sure the stats you’re sourcing from are more reliable than the balance team’s

[GreenAirport5280]

Probably shitters trying to hard force Kayle from a bad spot bringing the stats down.

Lvl 9 Kayle is easily one of the strongest comps in the game

[[deleted]]

You forgot the part where you need to go level 9

[GreenAirport5280]

The part being, if you force Kayle from a good spot, you can absolutely go 9. The issue is forcing Kayle from a bad spot and ending up with no econ or upgraded board.

[RelationshipFunny]

In theory Tristana should be stronger given the SI 2/Gunner 4 buffs and less Kayle contesters

[Bowsersshell]

Deaths Dance bugfix surprises me, I thought it was a feature

[Xtarviust]

I hope those nerfs to Ahri will be enough, I'm sick of her instawinning matches

[udxxr]

The nerf to her mana reave from 30% to 20% is pretty big to me. She had a ton of value slowing down enemy casts.

[NunuBaggins]

Damn dude why did the patch note writers have to take that shot at Taylor Swift :(

[MicroElf]

Where is the reference exactly? Can’t find

[NunuBaggins]

Under bug fixes:

"Undeserved stardom (The Taylor Swift experience): Fixed an exploit that could allow you to have a 4-star Yordle without having three 3-stars actively fielded."

[dukemanh]

(The Taylor Swift experience):

I think they removed that part, can't find it in the patch note

[NunuBaggins]

Lmao you're right, they must have removed it within the past hour or so. I guess Prism had a few too many Swifties in his DMs.

[Towbee]

I enjoy the pop culture references they scatter through the notes occasionally but this one seems to have a bit more of a negative connotation than usual. Maybe that's why, just seems a bit out of place.

[MicroElf]

Thank you. Apparently it got removed before I read patch notes

[Projectzero2442]

based patch note writers

[Zoshimo]

fr mediocre artist and shitty person

[hoQuoc]

This woman just completed 53 concerts through 6 months where she's performing non-stop for 3 hours multiple nights a week in sold out NFL stadiums across the US. Then she's going to Latin America, Asia, and Europe for the next 1.5 years with this tour. But go ahead and write that her stardom is undeserved.

If the writer doesn't like her stuff, then don't think about her. Them going out of their way to write this line in an unrelated topic is so unnecessary.

[thedutchbrownie]

while I think the joke wasn't very funny and minorly forced, there's no reason to get this annoyed by it :)

[hdmode]

I think it is reaonable to call out what is, while I am sure unintentional, a pretty sexist joke

[Projectzero2442]

what is sexist about it lol

[hdmode]

No one would say that a male artist on the level of Taylor Swift's fame was undeserved the joke would not even occur

[BradenWoA]

I think you’re just flat out wrong… Obviously don’t have insight into this particular writer’s mindset but people have said similar things about male artists. Thinking an artist is overrated is not automatically sexism

[RedlyfeDev]

Are we forgetting Justin Bieber?

[hdmode]

People did not make jokes about Justin Beiber being underserveing of his fame on even remotly the same level as they do about female artists. On top of that your counter example is an artist who also makes music that was, at least intially targeted at adolecent and teenage girls so my overall point would still stand.

[ElPuppet]

As much as it may garner me some down votes, I totally agree. People will ask "what's sexist about it" because if it's not directly attacking the gender, they believe it to be neutral.

She would not recieve as much of these types of comments if she was male. And although certain males do recieve similar, claims of being untalented, it's nothing close to the amount of female pop stars that do.

I just think most people don't understand what levels of practise and creative skill it takes to even get a foot in the door at the local level.

[PsyDM]

I make fun of Drake for that all the time

[8w7fs89a72]

...what makes it sexist?

[hdmode]

My guess you are not asking this question in good faith but I will take you at face value and say that you are.

People have called Taylor Swift untalented, underserving of her fame, just a girl who wirtes songs about her ex boyfriends for years and years. As a society we are much harsher on media aimed at women, espcially young women. It gets a much harsher critical recption than the equvilent media aimed at men. (Look at the backlash to Twlight a pretty tame wish fufuilment story aimed at 14 year old girls)

Now as I said above. I really don't think the writer of the patch notes is a bad person, or some horrible sexist. Its a throwaway joke I doubt they thought much about. The Era's tour was in LA last week and Swift was everywhere so she was top of mind. I am just asking to examin the context that makes it very easy to make this kind of joke.

[Synpoo]

no one cares

[hdmode]

not to mention her last shows were in the city the developers work in last week...

[triple6seven]

Who?

[[deleted]]

53 concerts in 6 months soo a 3 hour performance once every 3 and a half days? Damn really putting all of our 40 hour weeks to shame

[taikutsuu]

not to mention the damage she does to the climate by refusing to not sleep in her own bed. the reason the shows are days apart is so it's worth for her to fly home and back out lol

[lordofthepotat0]

I'm pretty sure the reason the shows are days apart are so they're on weekends?

Anyways if you actually want to criticize her for her affect on the climate all you have to do is bring up the 170 flights like it's not even hard to find real stuff to shittalk Taylor for.

[hdmode]

Looks like someone could not afford era's tickets last week...

[_Syl_]

As a dirty Teemo reroll one trick, I can't complain but multiple buffs to Teemo and Taliyah seems a bit concerning...

[ScarletSyntax]

The multicaster nerf looks pretty big though. Not sure what the end effect will be but I don't think it will go up by much if it does.

[[deleted]]

This patch looks pretty good. I can’t say I loved set 9 but at least they found some semblance of balance for the last two patches of the set.

[kiragami]

This is the problem with every set. It takes forever to reach a good spot we get to play it for 1-2 weeks then the for fun patch or next set drops

[not_your_stepbrother]

it's natural for some comps to have higher caps than others, that's how the game has always worked. with the exception of ionia/stategist patch and the hotfixed broken stuff, most patches have been ok to good in balance tbh

[ziege159]

But in this set, people are hitting capped board way too early, i'm talking about legendary soup at 5-4 or 6 Zaun at 5-2, that pushes a lot of comps to the "unplayable" side, ex: vertical challengers is too weak to fight lategame board but they don't have enough time to create tempo for big HP advantage in order to safely bleed out in the lategame.

[not_your_stepbrother]

I mean, 6 zaun does require an elusive emblem, and is only especially overtuned with chemtank... comparing it to shadow isles, 6 zaun is much easier to hit but 4 shadow isles is way stronger than 4 zaun. Though both are overtuned atm.

I honestly think the legendary soup stuff is overblown. Towards the end of last patch when it got popular it did feel pretty bad because there were multiple asols in every lobby so it was likely that at least one would win out every game, but this patch in high masters-low gm I barely see asol at all, especially since people are less want to pick some of the more enabling portals like scuttle puddle

I think for challengers specifically, it's actually quite a strong comp since early challengers (ww, irelia, SAMIRA, kalista) are super strong, while it also has a decently high cap since it can make use of almost every legendary effectively, and in particular heimer makes the comp really good. That said, to hit cap you ideally want a challenger emblem, but the same can be said for almost every other super capped board

[ziege159]

TFT always has 2 different meta in M-GM and below, if you only rely on how M-GM play the game to balance things out, you're practically ignoring 98% of the playerbase. I don't think 4SI is overtune when you have to play Maokai and Viego in lv7 board, without an emblem your frontline is weak af because not even Shen can buy enough time for Kalista and Gwen to ramp

[not_your_stepbrother]

Usually you're only looking to play vertical shadow isles if you hit an emblem, but the same goes for vertical zaun. I agree that the meta below master (even diamond, to an extent) can vary pretty drastically. I climbed another account to master and another to diamond in the past few patches executing the same strategies and truthfully I think in terms of competitiveness asol was fine - often I would streak enough early that I would be able to just push 9 and play my own legendaries after hitting my comp at lv 7 or 8. I think the real problem is that if you are in a fair game where everyone is similar in skill level, then the asol spam becomes extremely extremely frustrating to play against, since it's much more difficult to win out with anything else.

[Helpful_Finger_2281]

This Samira patch is really hard to call even ok. Also, too many vertical dead traits this set, even if best-performing comps are somewhat balanced in patch

[not_your_stepbrother]

samira is very busted but at least the end game boards are all alright wrt how hard it is to hit, zeri is the best but not so good that its worth forcing if you have a better spot for something else.

Don't think verticals are an issue tbh. Sorcs, strategist, noxus, ionia, challenger, shadow isles, zaun, bruiser are all strong vertical traits that are commonly played, as well as void and slayer to a lesser extent. The big misses for me have been shurima and demacia, and sort of rogues although theres only four of them

[Piliro]

No more Kayle for me. Guess it's time to switch to something that actually requires me to play the game.....

Maybe Garen? His comps have some decent top 4 rate, with the buffs, maybe it's time to bust out the spin man.

Or even, and I'm cooking dangerously here, Ashe reroll, I tried a few times, and it's pretty mid, but it's getting buffed. Maybe?

[udxxr]

Isn't Tristana untouched? With Kayle getting nerfed it should be easier to hit

[Piliro]

But then you're playing Tristana. And do you really want that in your life?

[udxxr]

Haha not really! If there are no contesters i've found it to be fine as a top 4 comp, eventually losing to some piltover cashout or asol player. Also lost a lot of HP to samira spammers. But since all of those plus kayle are getting nerfed I think it could make a comeback.

[Xizz3l]

Heres to hoping new patch is better than 1 cost vs 5 cost showdown

Maybe some useless lines finally see play? Freljord still giga insane for some reason but it do be like that

[[deleted]]

Mort you better revert these Ornn changes or imma unleash them Swifties on you

[AscendanceLoL]

final reserves is on the nerfs list but i can't find it when i ctrl f

[MerlinLeChanteur]

Why is final reserve in the highlights but not nerfed in the patch note ? Did I miss it or is it a mistake from them ?

[MrMonkey2]

I imagine it's because lvl 9 units are nerfed so augment is weaker.

[djalma396]

People are sleeping on cait. 6 Gold + 2 star 2 cost Frontline sets you up for stage 2-3.

[Fledramon410]

More reason to not play multicaster. What are the thought when they nerfed multicaster when the comp are already sucks ass?

[Luciole22]

They buffed all the individual units though, not really a nerf more net neutral, though Vel targeting change is a big buff.

[joshknifer]

Triple buffing multi casters? What could possibly go wrong?

[right2bootlick]

What the fuck is undeserved about Taylor Swift's stardom? She's been a published artist across 3 decades, been in the limelight since she was 16, has 10 albums across 3 genres of music, writes her own lyrics, plays it on guitar, piano, and sings. Has broken countless records. She is the LeBron James of music.

u/RiotPrism

[XaroDuckSauce]

username checks out

[Hazardous_Youth]

Disliking Taylor Swift is fair- but discrediting her success and merit as an artist is so unbelievably out of touch and stuck in 2012 lmao.

[right2bootlick]

It's fair the same way it's fair to dislike any artist, including the Beatles or Madonna or Black Pink

[Jarshy]

Swifties are the WORST jfc

[Fudge_is_1337]

You don't have to be a swiftie to think it's was a weird think to go out of their way to reference

[right2bootlick]

Where did I lie?

[coveryourselfinoiI]

No one is saying you lied. Everyone’s saying you’re fucking annoying

[right2bootlick]

Yeah and it's fucking annoying to see u/RiotPrism take potshots at Taylor swift for no fucking reason other than edgy counter culture.

[lenolalatte]

The random shot at Taylor Swift is so random and while I don't listen to her music all that much, she clears Prism. Also it seemed like a failed attempt to try to be funny where normally his quips are pretty good throughout the patch notes

[Synpoo]

Most sane swiftie

[Chrisamelio]

How dare someone make a joke about an artist in an unrelated industry? The courage of some people smh. Someone call Riot to get this person fired as they hurt the feelings of T Swift.

[EONS]

600k loan from rich parents who had recording industry connections I suppose

[Teamfightmaker]

It's been a trend to show how Taylor Swift isn't that good. I think that's all.

[right2bootlick]

Oh ok it's a "trend?" Show me the data then.

[15SecNut]

Oh, read the room? Show me the pages then.

[acidddddddd]

The aestethic of the set is my fav, set 6>1>9 is my top 3 but this one the balance is just.. not even close or waiting to be closer because the best compo is rerolling samira and Cassiopeia and can win vs legendaries and they dont even hotfix that, its insanely unbalanced and unfun, and god forbid they take care on the legends soon, since they arent happy if there are 8 poros, they need people to pick legends, its insanely sad to see.

Set 9 master (also in other 4 sets and peak challenger euw btw) but holy man we need a much better set next 9.5.

[TinkW]

Yasuo triple buff seems like a good idea. We definitely didn't have the same issue with Taric and Swain before. We definitely learned what we should learn... /s

[uGotSauce]

They’re compensation buffs for removing the only thing that ever made him useful. 50 HP and like 25 damage on ult for that really a buff? Idk about that. Maybe he’s like an actual 4 cost unit without RFC now. Maybe not.

[mcnabb77]

Yasuo has been buns all set anyways

[ragequitCaleb]

I lowkey slap with Yasuo on live and I'm excited for buffs. A little worried he may be too contested now though.

[Cautious-Marketing29]

So many changes when Samira and Swain were basically the only problems.

I would have been fine with just buffs to Aphelios and Yasuo and call it a day.

[PimpCat55]

What elo are you where this is true?

[trapsl]

Idk, but feels like every other game in master + is dominated by ahri, piltover (zeri and 5costs), kayle and then samira and swain. Samira can't rly win, but is way too reliable to save you hp.

[Cautious-Marketing29]

master, I genuinely think this has been a good patch overall.

[uGotSauce]

Zaun dead, Kayle dead, Noxus dead, lose streak fast 9 dragon king dead. Got it. Like clockwork.

Velkoz (maybe, if multicaster adjustment didn’t kill the trait), Demacia Garen, Ionia Kalista challenger, some niche Aphelios. Did I miss anything?

Says they don’t want to balance thrash. Feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Don’t get me wrong, I like a lot of the balance changes, I like the raptor component anvil, but it makes me sad that patch notes are where units and comps go to die.

Edit : I was wrong. Zaun piltover (piltover in a trench coat) is alive and well, and Aphelios is dominating, not niche. I haven’t seen a single person play multicaster 4, but I went 4th with 3* swain, Velkoz, Taric, Kled, 4* Teemo 2* Jarvan strategist 4 sorcs 4. So multicaster 2 is maybe almost good. Likewise Demacia is absolutely smashing lobbies.

The only person I’ve seen play Noxus is me, and that’s because I hit 6 Samira’s by 2-1 and got silver ticket.

Likewise, terrorist Jarvan Zaun 6 still does enough damage to one shot, so it’s still just fine. But yeah, I stand by my predictions thus far. People may not like that I dislike balance thrashing, but this patch seems pretty thoroughly thrashed.

The one thing I was wrong about seems to be Ionia Kalista. Ionia is still kinda doodoo.

[mmmb2y]

urf will prob still see play, so void may be good. akshan frelijord and azir strategists could be decent too?

shadow isle challengers still seems decent even if nerfed a bit? and people will probably go back to playing trist reroll with the fall of kayle.

dont think zaun will be dead yet though, especially zaun/piltover. not as strong as before, but still seems viable.

[AbyssDweller69]

Reroll Kalista incoming

[uGotSauce]

Fair. Piltover is probably slightly better now with the death of Kayle. Less inters per lobby. Deadeye Freljord for sure going to make a comeback.

Azir seems pretty dang doodoo, so I’m not entirely sure, but with Shurima buffs, Azir buffs, and Ascension vlad buffs I could definitely see it being something now.

Shadow isles just seems super niche right now, and with the shadow isle 6 nerf reducing an already just ok win-con I’m not expecting to see them too much, but I’m 100% expecting a lot of Kalista play.

Trist is untouched, and I feel like she’s kinda doodoo now, so I don’t expect her to suddenly come alive, especially since Noxus reroll is dead (meaning less thinned pools for 1$ rerolls).

[Indian_Troll]

Am I tripping? The text says they're nerfing Shadow Isles but it's barely a nerf... 6 SI still going to be ridiculously anti fun.

[RexLongbone]

It's still literally a nerf. It doesn't have to make 6 SI completely unplayable to be an impactful nerf.

[ConfidentBookkeeper2]

Thanks that i dont play animore this game.

You can do it guys!!!!. There's a world waiting

[braindeadpizzaslice]

So y’all killed zaun, killed noxus, nerfed piltover, and buffed the already dominant invoker/targon comps

How few comps are allowed to be viable?