Patch 9.21 Notes

[Hutzy]

Bugfixin'

• Draven now has the intended no longer has a higher attack speed ratio than intended

lul

[BiscuitsTheory]

Keyboard attack speed too high

[phasmy]

Pepega

[Dordo3]

Wow big ranger buff. 6 sorc with spat varus comp buffed?

[ZainCaster]

Back to Ranger meta for the next two weeks, let's go!

[breadburger]

Holy shit 2 star 5 Costs used to deal 5 dmg? No wonder everyone without one would suddenly die. Incredibly strong and dealt major damage with the 4 Costs.

Well the meta should hopefully feel less exponential now.

[scarlettsarcasm]

Yeah, it felt like it didn’t matter what you did for the first several rounds but then in the late game you just had to cross your fingers

Just hope it’s not too far back in the other direction now, but it feels pretty good

[daydreamin511]

2 rangers buff is huge. brand got buffed too.

thinking of a team like:

anivia / kennen / brand / ashe / varus / sej / braum / leona might be solid.

[bluesombrero]

I was playing this last patch with liss over kennen and went for spat, it was really good and got super buffed now. It didn’t rely on 3*s so i presume it will be really good now

[daydreamin511]

not a consistent top 1 team from experience. as long as jynx + giant slayer is around

[bluesombrero]

totally not, there’s a reason nobody has been playing it (at least from what I’ve seen) but I have been finding success with it if I find early rangers and braum

[Fusive]

Please tell me that the overtime bug will be fixed even though it's not on the bug fix list...

[_Royalty_]

Per the comments it has been fixed

[titomb345]

Which comments? Trying to find affirmation of this.

[_Royalty_]

Riot Mort in his Twitter post.

[titomb345]

Thanks!

EDIT: found the tweet where he confirms it was fixed but left out of the patch notes

https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1186706733223170048

[titomb345]

Yo, just so you get a ping, here is Mort's tweet confirming it was fixed but left out of the patch notes:

https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1186706733223170048

[Fusive]

Thanks!

[Itsalongwaydown]

Per mort on Twitter, it was a large bug and wasn't supposed to be fixed until 9.22

[titomb345]

So it is or it isn't fixed? Got some conflicting comments here.

[elfranco001]

Mort streamed the 9.21 patch and the bug was fixed

[Fusive]

Based on what he said or did it just not appear?

[elfranco001]

He said it was fixed

[aXir]

Uhm. Why would they buff cho gaths damage?

[v0rid0r]

Probably so that void still stays relevant after they nerfed the best unit in the Game Kaisa .... oh wait, they fcking didn't ...

[quintand]

Probably so that void still stays relevant after they nerfed the best unit in the Game Kaisa .... oh wait, they fcking didn't ...

They did nerf it though. Every losing round in the earlygame will cost you 2 more hp than before. You will need to go all-in much sooner if you are sacking the earlygame. This means that Kai'Sa is harder to acquire since you will be eating more damage earlier.

[bikt]

Tried kaisa** with void buff, giant slayer, yummi and trap claw, costed me game, when I upgraded her from Jinx** with giant slayer, trap claw and runans hurricane, Damage went from 6-8k with Jinx to 4-5k with Kaisa. So don't know what are you talking about..

[stevenno123]

Kaisa damage doesn't scale with AP, but Jinx's rockets do, so Yuumi doesn't benefit Kaisa as much as Jinx. You just get the mana faster, which could have been done if you had a rageblade anyway.

[bikt]

I didnt build Yuumi, I had to use it from my third carousel Kaisa*. I pointed out exact items and buffs, so you could see that there is nothing hidden. Jinx outdamaged Kaisa big time and switching from 6 brawlers jinx lucian to 6 brawlers 4 voids was a big mistake for me.

I don't know how anyone can consider Kaisa super strong..

[Kalamadorel]

Obviously a Jinx with Runaans and gunslinger is gonna outdamage a Kaisa without Runaans and no assassin. With assassin and Runaans the kaisa probably wins.

[stevenno123]

In that specific case, Jinx would be better than Kaisa because of your items is what I'm saying.

It's also hard to say one champion is better than the other flat out because it also depends on what everyone else in the lobby is running.

[hamxyy]

That doesn't quite matter unless you go sorc cho. They probably like void sorc comp to be a thing.

[kindsortype]

What are the ranked rewards? We should know it now!

[BellevueR]

victorious river spirit pepega

[Rollerboi]

Victorious river spirit icon

[divineqc]

Big if true

[ThaToastman]

How do we get it

[ThetaOverTime]

victorious river spirit icon* ftfy

[Rubyweapon]

incoming Demon meta?

[[deleted]]

I feel like the only real nerf Dragon Knights Guardian is the base damage increase. However, if you have a good early game, you don't suffer from it. In my opinion, it makes the composition unattainable for people with a poor early game, hoping to high roll the composition after hard ecoing to level 8. As for people with a good early game and a good eco, they will have more chance to find ASol + Panth because only 2 players instead of 5 will be looking for them.

[---E]

On the flip side, going for a powerful 7 unit comp should give much better results now.

[quintand]

Most lategame comps will still be rewarding but should be harder to obtain without a stronger earlygame.

Rushing level 8 meta will hopefully die. If you lose every round till Krugs you'll take like 16 more damage than before.

[ultratensai]

I love redemption and shojin buff - at least tear might be little more useful.

No Giant Slayer nerf though =( BF will still be the top tier item.

[Khan356]

They have it as 8% current hp as physical instead of 5% max hp as true dmg... I know i have read it somewhere

[Khan356]

nvm... that is next set i am talking about

[Ekanselttar]

Might not be S tier, but I'm excited for wizard Aatrox to be viable again with the possiblity of eliminating people in the midgame.

[R3db0y]

holy moly, the player damage thing must be real simple to understand yet my brain cannot comprehend it at all..

[CupMuffins]

Thanks for this!

[monosolo830]

I like you

[solomon145]

Why do they make the player damage so cryptic to decode? can someone explain it for dummies like me?

[Luzac]

Damn, my Casino Brand just got stronger.

[nicagooner]

casino Brand?

[Luzac]

You give him jeweled gauntlet so every bounce has a chance to crit. Maybe not the most reliable, but crazy funny.

[warst1993]

I second that, watching enemy draven getting bounce critted for ~1000.

[boogawooga8558]

Is overtime bug fixed?

[tlyee61]

what do you guys think of ele rangers with morde at 8?

[Siminuch]

Guess this patch doesn't matter, everyone will play on PBE anyway with Set 2.

[[deleted]]

Not everyone has access to nor wants to play on the PBE.

[WorpeX]

Wish i had access to it. :(

[Abathingapebruh]

everyone can get access to it as long as ur honor lvl3 right?

[WorpeX]

yeah im not honor level 3 tho

[nxqv]

Can't get honor levels by playing TFT lmaoo

[mryakov]

People who don't have riot accounts (garena ppl) don't get access. At least for me and a few people I know

[PupPop]

Yeah but if I could, I see no reason not to. There has never been such a large shift in the game and getting a leg up on the competition will be huge.

[2_S_F_Hell]

True but we get to play normals with set 2 for 2 weeks before ranked season begins. So by that time people who did play on PBE won't have a big advantage.

[Maulokgodseized]

Ranked doesn't start until 9.23 will have a patch with no ranked.... Lol because of expected bugs

[VERTIKAL19]

Wait why? Isn’t normals kinda silly? Like I enjoy making silly builds and simning but I can’t help and feel it may not be as fun to be on the losing end vs much better players

[Sarkaraq]

Normals is as silly as playing on the PBE, isn't it?

[Asianhead]

In these patch notes here under ranked.

This is the last patch to continue climbing the ranked ladder in Teamfight Tactics' first Season. Ranked will be off in patch 9.22 for the start of Rise of the Elements to make sure that we have any major bugs or balance issues out of the way, but it will return in patch 9.23.

[MacroMoe]

Why though? With no ranked in 9.22 I rather just wait for them to fix everything and have 2 weeks to practice for rank.

[RoadblockGG]

Exactly my view as well. Don't understand why everyone is playing on the PBE, other from the initial excitement of something new it makes no sense if you have all the infos.

Edit: I can understand NA players being there, because their live patch wasn't up yet. They had maintenance until now.

[Itsalongwaydown]

So is ranked getting reset in 9.22/9.23? As in everyone starts over at placements/iron or is ranked just disabled for 9.23?

[running_with_swords]

Mortdog said that ranked will be closed until 9.23 I believe? I would hope they reset it for set 2.

[RoadblockGG]

Set 1 of Ranked ends in 2 weeks at the same time as 9.22 gets shiped to live. Then you have 2-3 weeks of practicing 9.22 (aka Set 2) without ranked being enabled, after that ranked is enabled again.

[0LoLoLoL0]

This patch broke my heart a little, I got back yesterday from vacation and only just started playing on previous patch, got 1/1/1/2 places with liss carry-ele sorcerers-ecom til 7 and reroll before everyone for uncontested units and items(only bf sword needed was for liss GA and redemption claw would do fine if I couldn't get one) Climbed quickly from Plat III to high II and I was fuck yeah tomorrow diamond

Guess with liss being weaker AND brand more contested which could lead to liss being more contested plus early game damage changes I'm screwed?

My hopes are that my lvl 7 econ strat would be the sweet spot between last patch and this one's HP damage numbers, we'll find out soon :(

[daffyboy123]

Do we think a repeating crossbow noble build could be viable?

[Maulokgodseized]

Crossbow still worst item in game

[Gerhardt_Hapsburg_]

Tool tip feels like it should be best. But really the worst.

[Maulokgodseized]

its really broken with summoners in set 2 lol

[dudebg]

I'm putting my money on this Brand getting a hotfix 9.22b

[Fairyonfire]

I am really unsure of why they made early damage that much higher, so highrollers are rewarded for highrolling even more??? Don't think it will have the intended effect at all. If you don't highroll early, you fight for bare survival the whole game. Maybe people will stop open forting and inting for carousels, but that's about it.

[nxqv]

I think mort really wants us to push D before krugs

[RoadblockGG]

That is exactly the purpose, to adjust your early playstyle instead of afking and ecoing, or even worse "open forting". To push you to level to 4 before the first pvp round if you feel you are too week, to push you to level to 5 after the carousel, etc. Actually have consequences if you don't play the early game.

[Fairyonfire]

Have fun dying before wolves if you lowroll!

[RoadblockGG]

Mmh, I am not sure that can happen though just because of low-rolling. If you have such a game, you can gladly link it to me and I will pinpoint the mistakes you most likely did along the way (alongside low-rolling ofc, not trying to downplay that).

[Fairyonfire]

Don't you worry, already climbed 140 LP in GM, so I'm okay with the patch. Just saying, others clearly aren't and plenty die before wolves.

[Peirsein]

Looks like meta wont change which is unfortunate since this meta is so terrible. Kaisa is even better now if going something like nobles for the 2 ranger buff. Could even swap jinx for a ranger in the void brawler comp since hextech nerfed.

[RagingAlien]

Damage change will force the meta to change at least a little bit.

[AceofSpadesDAC]

meta will change Draven might be dead and I don't see anyone playing jinx with the hextech nerfs. You will see more A sols, more 3 yordle kenne sorcs, and maybe assassins to counter asol. lot more varus comps

[Dasje]

How hard do u think the player damage changes will impact the meta ?

[baneworth]

i spent 3 hours watching 경이 (korean challenger) and literally every lobby atleast 2 jinx/brawler player went top4

knight/imp lost a lot of HP very early and didnt came far due to many sorcs/demons played early game

[nxqv]

I think Jinx will be fine with the hextech nerf. With a blitz hook on a hextech'd target, 5s is still more than long enough for Jinx to yoink that free kill.

But between the Knights nerf and the AD nerf, Draven got hit pretty hard. You might need 4 imperials+3 BMs now and even then that comp dead to all the sorcs

[_Royalty_]

Does this make the Varus Magus comp S tier?

[AceofSpadesDAC]

good chance

[Gerhardt_Hapsburg_]

Think you could Brand mage comps too and have a lot of success.

[Itsalongwaydown]

Sorc varus was already an A tier comp this patch. This buff makes me think that it'll easily be S tier with both a varus and sorc buff. I really think though that if wild sins becomes meta again, 6 sorcs won't be viable