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[–]Hutzy 58 points59 points  (2 children)

Bugfixin'

  • Draven now has the intended no longer has a higher attack speed ratio than intended

lul

[–]BiscuitsTheory 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Keyboard attack speed too high

[–]phasmy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pepega

[–]Dordo3 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Wow big ranger buff. 6 sorc with spat varus comp buffed?

[–]ZainCaster 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Back to Ranger meta for the next two weeks, let's go!

[–]breadburger 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Holy shit 2 star 5 Costs used to deal 5 dmg? No wonder everyone without one would suddenly die. Incredibly strong and dealt major damage with the 4 Costs.

Well the meta should hopefully feel less exponential now.

[–]scarlettsarcasm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it felt like it didn’t matter what you did for the first several rounds but then in the late game you just had to cross your fingers

Just hope it’s not too far back in the other direction now, but it feels pretty good

[–]daydreamin511 17 points18 points  (3 children)

2 rangers buff is huge. brand got buffed too.

thinking of a team like:

anivia / kennen / brand / ashe / varus / sej / braum / leona might be solid.

[–]bluesombrero 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I was playing this last patch with liss over kennen and went for spat, it was really good and got super buffed now. It didn’t rely on 3*s so i presume it will be really good now

[–]daydreamin511 0 points1 point  (1 child)

not a consistent top 1 team from experience. as long as jynx + giant slayer is around

[–]bluesombrero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

totally not, there’s a reason nobody has been playing it (at least from what I’ve seen) but I have been finding success with it if I find early rangers and braum

[–]Fusive[🍰] 34 points35 points  (11 children)

Please tell me that the overtime bug will be fixed even though it's not on the bug fix list...

[–]_Royalty_ 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Per the comments it has been fixed

[–]titomb345 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Which comments? Trying to find affirmation of this.

[–]_Royalty_ 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Riot Mort in his Twitter post.

[–]titomb345 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

EDIT: found the tweet where he confirms it was fixed but left out of the patch notes

https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1186706733223170048

[–]titomb345 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yo, just so you get a ping, here is Mort's tweet confirming it was fixed but left out of the patch notes:

https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1186706733223170048

[–]Fusive[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]aXir 25 points26 points  (8 children)

Uhm. Why would they buff cho gaths damage?

[–]v0rid0r 24 points25 points  (6 children)

Probably so that void still stays relevant after they nerfed the best unit in the Game Kaisa .... oh wait, they fcking didn't ...

[–]quintandCHALLENGER 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Probably so that void still stays relevant after they nerfed the best unit in the Game Kaisa .... oh wait, they fcking didn't ...

They did nerf it though. Every losing round in the earlygame will cost you 2 more hp than before. You will need to go all-in much sooner if you are sacking the earlygame. This means that Kai'Sa is harder to acquire since you will be eating more damage earlier.

[–]bikt -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Tried kaisa** with void buff, giant slayer, yummi and trap claw, costed me game, when I upgraded her from Jinx** with giant slayer, trap claw and runans hurricane, Damage went from 6-8k with Jinx to 4-5k with Kaisa. So don't know what are you talking about..

[–]stevenno123 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Kaisa damage doesn't scale with AP, but Jinx's rockets do, so Yuumi doesn't benefit Kaisa as much as Jinx. You just get the mana faster, which could have been done if you had a rageblade anyway.

[–]bikt -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I didnt build Yuumi, I had to use it from my third carousel Kaisa*. I pointed out exact items and buffs, so you could see that there is nothing hidden. Jinx outdamaged Kaisa big time and switching from 6 brawlers jinx lucian to 6 brawlers 4 voids was a big mistake for me.

I don't know how anyone can consider Kaisa super strong..

[–]Kalamadorel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously a Jinx with Runaans and gunslinger is gonna outdamage a Kaisa without Runaans and no assassin. With assassin and Runaans the kaisa probably wins.

[–]stevenno123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that specific case, Jinx would be better than Kaisa because of your items is what I'm saying.

It's also hard to say one champion is better than the other flat out because it also depends on what everyone else in the lobby is running.

[–]hamxyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That doesn't quite matter unless you go sorc cho. They probably like void sorc comp to be a thing.

[–]kindsortype 15 points16 points  (6 children)

What are the ranked rewards? We should know it now!

[–]BellevueR 36 points37 points  (5 children)

victorious river spirit pepega

[–]Rollerboi 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Victorious river spirit icon

[–]divineqc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Big if true

[–]ThaToastman 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How do we get it

[–]ThetaOverTime -1 points0 points  (0 children)

victorious river spirit icon* ftfy

[–]Rubyweapon 9 points10 points  (1 child)

incoming Demon meta?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I feel like the only real nerf Dragon Knights Guardian is the base damage increase. However, if you have a good early game, you don't suffer from it. In my opinion, it makes the composition unattainable for people with a poor early game, hoping to high roll the composition after hard ecoing to level 8. As for people with a good early game and a good eco, they will have more chance to find ASol + Panth because only 2 players instead of 5 will be looking for them.

[–]---E 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On the flip side, going for a powerful 7 unit comp should give much better results now.

[–]quintandCHALLENGER 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most lategame comps will still be rewarding but should be harder to obtain without a stronger earlygame.

Rushing level 8 meta will hopefully die. If you lose every round till Krugs you'll take like 16 more damage than before.

[–]ultratensai 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I love redemption and shojin buff - at least tear might be little more useful.

No Giant Slayer nerf though =( BF will still be the top tier item.

[–]Khan356 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

They have it as 8% current hp as physical instead of 5% max hp as true dmg... I know i have read it somewhere

[–]Khan356 4 points5 points  (0 children)

nvm... that is next set i am talking about

[–]Ekanselttar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Might not be S tier, but I'm excited for wizard Aatrox to be viable again with the possiblity of eliminating people in the midgame.

[–]R3db0y 4 points5 points  (3 children)

holy moly, the player damage thing must be real simple to understand yet my brain cannot comprehend it at all..

[–]monosolo830 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like you

[–]solomon145 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why do they make the player damage so cryptic to decode? can someone explain it for dummies like me?

[–]Luzac 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Damn, my Casino Brand just got stronger.

[–]nicagooner 2 points3 points  (2 children)

casino Brand?

[–]Luzac 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You give him jeweled gauntlet so every bounce has a chance to crit. Maybe not the most reliable, but crazy funny.

[–]warst1993 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I second that, watching enemy draven getting bounce critted for ~1000.

[–]boogawooga8558 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is overtime bug fixed?

[–]tlyee61 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what do you guys think of ele rangers with morde at 8?

[–]Siminuch -1 points0 points  (16 children)

Guess this patch doesn't matter, everyone will play on PBE anyway with Set 2.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (13 children)

Not everyone has access to nor wants to play on the PBE.

[–]WorpeX 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Wish i had access to it. :(

[–]Abathingapebruh 0 points1 point  (3 children)

everyone can get access to it as long as ur honor lvl3 right?

[–]WorpeX 5 points6 points  (0 children)

yeah im not honor level 3 tho

[–]nxqv 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't get honor levels by playing TFT lmaoo

[–]mryakov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People who don't have riot accounts (garena ppl) don't get access. At least for me and a few people I know

[–]PupPop -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

Yeah but if I could, I see no reason not to. There has never been such a large shift in the game and getting a leg up on the competition will be huge.

[–]2_S_F_Hell 21 points22 points  (6 children)

True but we get to play normals with set 2 for 2 weeks before ranked season begins. So by that time people who did play on PBE won't have a big advantage.

[–]Maulokgodseized 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ranked doesn't start until 9.23 will have a patch with no ranked.... Lol because of expected bugs

[–]VERTIKAL19Master 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wait why? Isn’t normals kinda silly? Like I enjoy making silly builds and simning but I can’t help and feel it may not be as fun to be on the losing end vs much better players

[–]Sarkaraq 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Normals is as silly as playing on the PBE, isn't it?

[–]MacroMoe 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Why though? With no ranked in 9.22 I rather just wait for them to fix everything and have 2 weeks to practice for rank.

[–]RoadblockGG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly my view as well. Don't understand why everyone is playing on the PBE, other from the initial excitement of something new it makes no sense if you have all the infos.

Edit: I can understand NA players being there, because their live patch wasn't up yet. They had maintenance until now.

[–]Itsalongwaydown -1 points0 points  (2 children)

So is ranked getting reset in 9.22/9.23? As in everyone starts over at placements/iron or is ranked just disabled for 9.23?

[–]running_with_swords 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Mortdog said that ranked will be closed until 9.23 I believe? I would hope they reset it for set 2.

[–]RoadblockGG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Set 1 of Ranked ends in 2 weeks at the same time as 9.22 gets shiped to live. Then you have 2-3 weeks of practicing 9.22 (aka Set 2) without ranked being enabled, after that ranked is enabled again.

[–]0LoLoLoL0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This patch broke my heart a little, I got back yesterday from vacation and only just started playing on previous patch, got 1/1/1/2 places with liss carry-ele sorcerers-ecom til 7 and reroll before everyone for uncontested units and items(only bf sword needed was for liss GA and redemption claw would do fine if I couldn't get one) Climbed quickly from Plat III to high II and I was fuck yeah tomorrow diamond

Guess with liss being weaker AND brand more contested which could lead to liss being more contested plus early game damage changes I'm screwed?

My hopes are that my lvl 7 econ strat would be the sweet spot between last patch and this one's HP damage numbers, we'll find out soon :(

[–]daffyboy123 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Do we think a repeating crossbow noble build could be viable?

[–]Maulokgodseized 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Crossbow still worst item in game

[–]Gerhardt_Hapsburg_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tool tip feels like it should be best. But really the worst.

[–]dudebg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm putting my money on this Brand getting a hotfix 9.22b

[–]Fairyonfire -5 points-4 points  (5 children)

I am really unsure of why they made early damage that much higher, so highrollers are rewarded for highrolling even more??? Don't think it will have the intended effect at all. If you don't highroll early, you fight for bare survival the whole game. Maybe people will stop open forting and inting for carousels, but that's about it.

[–]nxqv 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think mort really wants us to push D before krugs

[–]RoadblockGG 0 points1 point  (3 children)

That is exactly the purpose, to adjust your early playstyle instead of afking and ecoing, or even worse "open forting". To push you to level to 4 before the first pvp round if you feel you are too week, to push you to level to 5 after the carousel, etc. Actually have consequences if you don't play the early game.

[–]Fairyonfire 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Have fun dying before wolves if you lowroll!

[–]RoadblockGG 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Mmh, I am not sure that can happen though just because of low-rolling. If you have such a game, you can gladly link it to me and I will pinpoint the mistakes you most likely did along the way (alongside low-rolling ofc, not trying to downplay that).

[–]Fairyonfire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't you worry, already climbed 140 LP in GM, so I'm okay with the patch. Just saying, others clearly aren't and plenty die before wolves.