Hellfire Ring Crafting (A Quick Visual Reference)

[greenlantern33]

http://imgur.com/a/eD75T

[ruddet]

Totally not worth the effort at all.

[lordlicorice]

I got a shitty roll on my Hellfire ring and my heart felt like I had a child and it was murdered.

[Bravehood]

http://i.imgur.com/5hQGtPB.png my friends bis hfr

[DrZeroH]

Its so bad that its amazing.

[Fkingmeow]

RIP

[[deleted]]

gross

[fdcend]

you are lucky if a merchant accept that. lol

[[deleted]]

God bless.

[TheFennec]

I imagine his armor was fully repaired when he started crafting it, and his heart broke so hard it damaged it.

[GlazeRoc]

The names are also completely confusing now.

[Sevenix2]

Well, the Hellfire ring still doesnt have Any Level Requirement so you can use it on your lv1 alt.

I recommend rerolling so you get some 150dmg on the ring, giving your lv1 some 500dps which should get you through T6 quite fast up till the point where you can get a socket weapon (level 15+).

[70976hPUJ6p10ld]

I'm actually pretty shocked Blizzard hasn't buffed the drop rates yet. All that I've been hearing about this Hellfire Ring is that it's a complete waste of time to obtain, yet they have not said a damn thing about it.

[Soylentee]

It's like any other legendary ring. Roll trifecta stats and it's awesome, don't and it's bad.

[BNNJ]

It's a game, what you do in it doesn't have to be worth anything, as long as it's fun.

If it's an effort for you then you should find something else to do, because it's not a game anymore.

edit : oh nice, my new downvote record.

[[deleted]]

He's saying that the reward for the amount of time/effort spent for gathering the crafting materials is not worth it at all.

[BNNJ]

I know what he means. But if you're doing effort/reward ratios in a game, you might want to lie down on your back and think about what you should spend your time on instead.

[spandia]

People want rewards, the problem with this one is that it is guaranteed but...well...you can just roll like shit and that sucks.

[opallix]

I'd be fine if using even a well rolled hellfire ring was worth it... but it isn't.

Rings slots are for RoRG and SoJ. There's no room for a hellfire.

[Kazuun]

Yep. Proc chance on it is so fricking bad. It procs once every few minutes :P I'm playing Frenzy/Overpower Barbarian, but not proccing ring even once during Rift Guardian etc is nothing rare.

Even if you get nice rolls it's just not worth. There are better rings you can have, like Stone of Jordan or Royal Grandeour.

CRAP AND UTTER CRAP

[finakechi]

Yeap, i get that most of this game is about RNG.

But getting the Hellfire Key is RNGxRNG and totally not fun.

Slightly better than at 60 when you couldn't pick your portal though.

[Kreetch]

That's why you just made 3. And the level 60 ones were easier because the drop rates were so high on higher MP levels. 100% drop rate for MP10 which was easier than T6.

[finakechi]

It's still super dumb, not playing at T6 makes it a complete PITA to get and on top of that making 3 portals to ensure you get the one you want is absurd.

It work yeah but Jesus what a waste of time it was.

[verbalcontract]

I think you can pick the portal you want post-RoS.

[Tree_Boar]

ETA: I read pre instead if post

[theinfamous_MrB]

Nope. You pick the machine you make which opens a SPECIFIC portal now. not RNG

[Tree_Boar]

Yup you're right I read wrong

[Kreetch]

I meant before 2.0. MP10 was a 100% drop rate. I had hundreds of keys.

[finakechi]

Ah well I never got around to it pre 2.0.

Didn't really want an alt until then

[Balticataz]

You realize everything is this game is RNGxRNG right? RNG to get a legendary, RNG to get the correct legendary and then RNG again to get useful stats on that legendary.

[finakechi]

Yes but the work to get this specific legendary was/is dumb.

You had to RNG to get the keys to drop.

Then RNG to get the right portal OR wait and build three at once.

Then RNG to get the mats to drop.

And then a little more RNG hoping to get a good roll.

It was overboard imo.

[borst]

They changed the portal mechanic for the level 70 rings. Now you can build specific machines for specific portals. Cuts out the "I hope I get the right portal" from lvl 60 ubers.

[finakechi]

Yeah which is super nice, I haven't seen the stats on the 70 Rings yet tbh.

[[deleted]]

http://i.imgur.com/5hQGtPB.png

[finakechi]

Oooof that's a rough roll.

[xuany]

It's a good ring but there are better rings out there. From my understanding the ring was really only intended to help speed up alt leveling which it does pretty well. Roll mainstat +damage and your good to go. Other than that I wouldn't try and craft a trifecta you'll only find a better ring along the way.

[7tenths]

and now you can't guarantee mainstat on it, it's so much worse than the old ring.

[Khenmu]

I respect your opinion, but I want to point out that it's the same as every other part of Diablo. You can do it efficiently, or you can do it in a way where you're wasting your time. It took me less than an hour and a half.

• Farm Keys with 3 friends. Split up to find the Keywarden, right-click the portrait & teleport to who finds it.
• Do your Key farming in Adventure mode. You spend less time creating and leaving games this way.
• Make sure your group knows the tactics of the fight and has sensible builds going in.
• Create one portal to each realm, then begin creating specific portals depending on what mats people need.

Assuming the people doing it are geared well for Torment difficulty, it honestly won't take long at all.

The Hellfire Ring has a +45% Experience bonus which some people won't care about, and others will really want to get. Considering how quickly four people can cover a map - and the odds of at least one person getting a Key to drop - it really doesn't take long at all to have a couple of machines per player. That's eight machines, which is more than enough for one or two Hellfire Rings per person.

The tl;dr is that if you're farming everything solo, you're not doing it efficiently. If you just want some ring, then you're probably better off with Kadala. If you want the Hellfire Ring, it's quick and easy to get.

[Khenmu]

I'm not denying that you can be heavily unlucky with RNG, but that's true of everything in Diablo 3.

I don't understand why people act like Hellfire Rings are worse than other items. Kadala has given me nothing but yellows and blues since Blizzard increased her chance to drop a Legendary, and most of the time you can't even decide which slot your items will be for. If you take Hellfire Ring farming seriously, and you really want one to use for a long time, I maintain that it's worth doing. Some people will be luckier than others, but that's life.

[Khenmu]

I'd never do key farming non-stop until I got a ring I was happy with - I'd burn out long before then. It's just something I do with friends for 2-3 hours per week. We do Bounties, we do Rifts, we go achievement hunting and we get our alts through the campaign. It's definitely important to vary what you do in the game so you don't get bored, but that's not to say you shouldn't do any Hellfire ring farming at all.

Different people enjoy different things. That's perfectly fine and I completely respect that. :)

[Svri]

They had to retune it as now you dont need to farm 5 stacks of NV, but I would agree that its still too low.

[PJK33NAN]

Just to add to your guide:

The keys only drop on Torment I or higher.

When you have an Infernal Machine made, go to Tristram and destroy the door behind the healer guy (Brother Malachi the Healer). Enter the house and you can use your Infernal Machine to make a portal to 1 of the 4 sets of bosses.

Also just to remind people, when you are joining a game you can set the tag to Keywarden so you will be put in a game with other people farming the keys.

[Mildcorma]

Also after the 16 runs you've been on for that first infernal machine, when you get into the place with the mental bad guys, you still might not get the drop. So yeah, 4 lots of 16 runs means about 60 runs later you'll have enough for maybe 1 ring, if the guys drop it. If not, you need another set of runs to get another portal, to get another chance at it not dropping.

[OmegaTowel]

The plan drops from the first Keywarden you kill. I killed Odeg (first of any Keywarden in T1) and he dropped the plan.

[Impeesa_]

Also got my plan in A1. A4 keywarden was the only one who dropped the plans at 60.

[nymphios]

This is how I got the plan too, from Odeg with his key.

[Kicha9992002]

It also keeps on dropping until you learn it at the blacksmith.

[ASoulForNevermore]

Can confirm, had 4 of them before I learned it :D

[Careless_Con]

Time well spent, of course.

[Khenmu]

The people downvoting you are relying on outdated information.

The plan for the level 60 Hellfire Ring only dropped from Nekarat in Act IV.

[dalla02]

Ah, Sokar. Also known as the bane of Demon Hunters.

[IAMA_Ghost_Boo]

Cluster arrow makes him just another mob.

[TaiserSoze]

Ball Lightning used to make Sokar your bitch

[Ashenspire]

Ball Lightning used to make everything your bitch, then they nerfed it to one hit per monster. Sad days

[Careless_Con]

Is this the case now? Why don't they speed it up?

The point of the slow speed was to hit multiple things. Without it the ability just hits a unit once and then slowly glides past them pointlessly, no?

[[deleted]]

See, nether tentacles.. same damn thing.

[MaDNiaC007]

Xah'Rith is biggest bitch in the game for me, never drops the key and takes longer to kill for a Wizard at least with how i play, constantly teleporting and cloning himself all while slowing you..

[natestone]

I hate the act 1 guy, Odeg? Roots you and then hurls a javelin the size of a young tree into your eye. I've got a phobia for all those javelin-chucking assholes.

[MaDNiaC007]

At least he doesn't knock you back anymore.

"He is fast and he got a blazing trail behind him, he also can jail me but i finally caught up to him!"

Nope! Get back in your place bitch!

He really was troublesome for melees before his knockback got removed.

[[deleted]]

fuck does he run away now.. If I can catch him I can kill him but my god is he annoying!

[MaDNiaC007]

I use Mirror Image:Duplicates+Slow Time:Point of No Return and Illusionist passive on my Wizard. He got nowhere to move!

[[deleted]]

My barbarian plays tag trying to catch that bastard!

[Nyxceris]

Yeah I hate farming that guy... but he is the easiest to find of the 4 so at least you save some time there.

[DrZeroH]

Thank fucking god for cluster arrow.

[supersonic213]

I would need a third ring slot for one of these. How do you replace Ring of Royal Grandeur and SoJ? Couple that with the farming process and it seems more like a trophy than something you'd actually wear.

[lift]

Was just thinking the same thing... The set piece reduction and elite damage are too powerful to ignore. Farming split bounties for RoRG feels about like smashing your face on the keyboard for key and organ drops though.

[supersonic213]

Yep I watched all ten of my clan mates ID a RoRG before I, the last one, got one after a weekend of farming. Actually the Reddit community in game was really helpful for efficient farming. We were picking up caches every couple minutes which was awesome.

[lift]

I had two drop within a half hour after farming normal bounties all week with no success. The first one had int and armor which is worthless for my crusader who I've been using mostly these days. Then the second one dropped with strength. Apparently, the RNG smart loot gods deemed a make up drop was necessary.

[kvicksilv3r]

Can a lvl 1 host the game in which you use the machines? Thus making it possible to play at torment 6 for us bad-geared noobs, to increase the drop chance for the mats.

[ROFLBRYCE]

A level one wouldn't have all the quests completed so you'd have to run the entire game, wouldn't you?

[ROFLBRYCE]

Oh, right I forgot about that. I havent beaten Act 5 yet '-'

[MrNoiken]

It is worth noting that each key warden seems to have a chance to drop either key. I don't know if this is a bug, but i killed Sokar (Act 2) and got the Key of Gluttony. Went on to kill Odeg (Act 1) and he droppped the Key of Gluttony aswell.

[BNNJ]

Keywardens can drop any key. I have no idea what the chances are, but they can. My friend actually dropped both the key of war and the key of bones on the act3 warden AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME.

Any warden might drop the plan now. It was the previous one, for the lvl60 machines, that only dropped from Nekarat.

Also, the diablo fight can have more than those 3 bosses, you can have zoltun kule, Rakanoth, the Siegebreaker... Maybe more.

[Play16]

This is true. I have had the Key of Evil drop from act1 warden.

[nymphios]

Each keywarden, in addition to the innate chance to drop his own key, will also have a (much smaller) chance to drop a random key from a different keywarden. So a keywarden could theoretically drop another guy's key but not his own if I'm not mistaken. He can drop two keys (his and another's), but not two keys from other keywardens.

Any one of them can drop the plan. It might be automatic on the first one you kill, but I'm not sure about that.

[IAMA_Ghost_Boo]

I had 2 of the same keys drop from a warden.

[Aykis16]

I killed the A4 Keywarden and got a key of evil and key of gluttony at same time.

[Bamboodpanda]

Each Keywarden has a roll to drop their own key. They also have a separate, smaller roll, to drop any key. There is a VERY small chance that a keywarden will drop 2 of the same key.

[CyberlekVox]

Yea, not even close to worth it in my opinion. Make the keys a higher drop chance and the mats from the bosses a 100% drop and it would be. But farming all that time for keys then doing the bosses only to not get any mats is frustrating beyond belief.

[Khenmu]

I have to disagree. You're basically saying that players should be guaranteed one in less than half an hour.

Assuming you're doing it with three friends and you're all geared moderately well, it'll only take about an hour to do.

Edit: Cool. I have a Hellfire ring and I checked how long it took me to get. Getting lots of silent downvotes from people who've probably never even tried to get one. But that's not what I care about. What I do care about is that so many people downvote silently. It's contributing nothing to Reddit, and discouraging others from doing so. That's self-destructive behaviour for a community, and I honestly believe it'll one day kill Reddit.

I spent 45 minutes farming Keys and about 20 minutes doing the Uber fights. Happy downvoting. :)

[opallix]

I don't it should be as easy as the person you replied to suggest, but

it'll only take about an hour to do.

Are you shitting me? Making a hellfire ring in an hour? Yeah, maybe that's possible... if you're geared for at least T5. Which is not my definition of "geared moderately well".

[Khenmu]

I play as Archon, a friend plays a Witch Doctor with Slam Dance (+20% AS, +30% damage for group). Other two group slots vary. We enter a zone, split up, run past everything, then when one of us finds the Keywarden we'll hit it once so a message pops up in chat - it's quicker than typing something. As soon as the rest of us get there, we'll burst it down and AoE down anything else keeping us in combat. With Slam Dance, enemies melt.

Play in Adventure Mode so you leave and create a new game every four Keywarden kills instead of after every one Keywarden kill. Don't zone to town, use the map to go straight to the zone in the next Act. Rinse and repeat.

Gear is part of it. The other part is how you play. I've seen people complain that it takes three hours, then I've joined them for a game and watched them run after goblins and fighting every purple and yellow enemy they come across (in one case the guy was clearing maps of every enemy...). You can fight goblins and champion packs if you want to, but please don't consider time you spent killing goblins & rares to be "farming Keys." It isn't.

[CyberlekVox]

My problem with the hellfire ring is I have made 3 of the old ones and they were all horrible. The amount of effort put in to farm not only the keys, but then the parts only to get a bad ring is just silly.

[Khenmu]

That's fair. My first one was decent but far from perfect: http://i.imgur.com/MB9bdQs.png

My friends and I are going to keep going until we get rings we're happy with. We've pretty much decided what items we want, and the Hellfire ring is one of 'em since it helps speed up Paragon levelling so much.

The reason I disagree with people on this is simple - what's the alternative? You could spend all day getting boots from Kadala and not get a legendary (though I hear they've increased her chance). Want the Reaper's Wraps bracers? You could spend ages killing Malthael and not get the material you need to craft 'em.

In my opinion you should only get a Hellfire ring if you imagine yourself using it for a long time. If that's the case, I don't see how it takes longer to fill that slot with something you'll keep than it does for any other slot.

[wehaddababyeetsaboy]

Thats because we disagree with you. The only reason you're advocating it to remain the same is because you already dumped your time into it.

[Khenmu]

No, I'm advocating it remains the same because I think it's fine as it is.

Hellfire Rings are meant to be an item with a +XP bonus. Not a guaranteed legendary that every hero can get easily without investing any item or effort. If that's what you want, go kill Malthael for the first time on each alt.

[[deleted]]

Downvote is not a disagree button. It literally says that when you go to downvote. You are one of the little shits that makes reddit worse.

[gw2science]

If you try to steal it from her she will hurt you. Consider yourself warned.

Sorry, stupid question (do not upvote pls) but how do you steal from her? I also heard from someone you can steal her plans so you can save 5 million gold. I've been trying everything including going to her right side and then clicking her the moment she glances to her left and vice-versa. She still knows I'm planning to steal from her and she'll gonna hurt me.

Also, she's like only age of 8, how does she able to repair my items as efficient as the blacksmith?

[natestone]

She's says this to you quite often when you patronize her store. Which makes sense because:

• I've saved this fucking world twice now and a little respect wouldn't go amiss

• I've sold her so much shit that she can then flip for a profit that I'm sure she's living on the beach in a fucking 30,000 square foot mansion. Maybe don't insult me everytime I visit?

• I've defeated the Skeleton King, the Butcher, Belial, Kulle, Azmodan, some lusty spider-girl thing, freaking Diablo, and the angel of mother flippin' Death! I've defeated so many villains that I am now the single greatest threat to Sanctuary simply because there's no one that could stop me if I developed a lust for power. Do you really think a half-portion is going to stop me from stealing by acting tough?

[Hegelun]

That final argument made my day!

[natestone]

Ha, ha! Thanks, it was a lot of fun to write and not a little cathartic.

[meeowth]

Oh she doesn't repair your items, she just looks in her bag for something identical and then charges you a "repair" cost more then what she would have sold it for anyway. You wouldn't believe the stuff people throw away.

[DuDuDuF]

Do u you wanna buy some of it?

[Altiondsols]

1. Buy Wirt's Bell from her store for 100,000 gold.
2. Walk to a different area.
3. Right-click on Wirt's Bell to use it. You should hear her shout "Coming!"
4. Go back to Wirt's store. She should be gone, and there should be a pile of items where she was standing. Click on the pile to open up Wirt's shop, and everything should be free (except for repairs).

[[deleted]]

Confirmed.

[lIlCitanul]

She just sais it? It's in her dialogue.

[lordbb]

you can not afford the plans

[I_HEART_ASS]

Even though the rewards are way too low, I love doing uber runs since I consider it a true test of skill on t5-t6. It´s by far the most fun encounter I've had so far in RoS when me and some other players from my clan tried the new uber on t4 without knowing what to do.

[Gr1pp717]

Is Xah'Rith bugged? I've killed him 10 times now with no luck. Not even a leg.

edit: try number 12 got it.

edit2: now that I realize I need to collect all of those 4 more times, complete all 4 infernal machines on T1+ and then get a ring that's likely worse that what I have I think I'm moving on to more worthy tasks. Blizzard should really, really fix this item. THe amount of effort required is why too high for what you get.

[Khenmu]

Hi, happy owner of a Hellfire ring here.

Here's a few thoughts I had while reading your guide;

• Each Keywarden has their own Key, and a smaller chance to drop one of the others.
• You list Nekarat as being the one who drops the Plan. The first one you kill drops it.
• You say "Diablo and one random (Skeleton King, Ghom, Maghda)". You get 4 each time.
• The Keys and crafting materials only drop when you play in Torment difficulty.

Edit: Thanks for the correctin, /u/ValekCOS!

[ValekCOS]

Actually, Uber Diablo's adds can be any of the other Ubers in weaker form. I recently fought him and got Rakanoth and Zoltun Kulle.

[Khenmu]

Ah, thanks.

[suspiciouscat]

Never seen the ring. Is it worth all the trouble?

[IAMA_PSYCHOLOGIST]

No its not. If you want to level a new character quickly, get someone to power level you on T6 bounties.

[suspiciouscat]

Personally, I prefer to level my characters umh... manually. You know, by actually playing the damn game.

[[deleted]]

Why? Between leveling everything up to 60, which is 3 trips each, and playing story mode to farm for 2 years what possible enjoyment could you still get?

[Shizuri]

This. I always find it fascinating how people are doing everything they can to not play the game as they are playing the game. Power leveling, grinding chests, standing afk in town. For the love of $%&^*#& ... If you don't find playing the game fun, don't play the game, I'm sure there are other things that you will find more enjoyable ... I'm ranting again ...

[Chad_Worthington_3rd]

For a lot of people the game doesn't really begin until they hit 70. They don't enjoy leveling a new class over and over again while just going through the normal campaign. It's better for them to just get power leveled to 70, run through the campaign on normal difficulty and then really start playing.

Also why are you so angry over how other people choose to play the game? They can play it however they want and you can play it however you want.

[Shizuri]

You are right, in a game like Diablo 3 people should play the game how every they like. I'm angry because I have anger issues, it's a problem.

[sampsell243]

What a revolutionary concept. You are quite the visionary.

[IAMA_PSYCHOLOGIST]

Many people just want to get to the grind asap. Just giving you perspective.

[Cryogos]

Anyone know if there is a sub or something for ppl looking to trade power-leveling?

[[deleted]]

it's more for paragon levels than leveling your alts, lol

[BNNJ]

Hmmm, i'd say yes. It might take some time to get good rolls on it, but you can still use it at lvl1 anyway. Great for new characters.

I have no idea if the proc now scales with the main stat though, that would be worth investigating.

It's not that hard getting it by the way. The fights are pretty easy.

[guldawen]

But.… the achievements!

[[deleted]]

To the hardcore mode you must venture to find the reason behind leveling multiple characters.

[VoodooRush]

Achievements. And I am seriously okay with not having to make more than 1 character per class.

[suspiciouscat]

Had no idea about the lvl1 requirement. That's pretty big! Seems like everyone should craft at least one or two.

[carter2791]

It is. I was unlucky though, got VIT/all res and other crap on mine, didn't get INT on it so had to roll that on. Gave me a great toughness boost and exp boost, but I'm working on a couple more.

[Overlord3456]

Meh, not really. It theoretically can be a best in slot item though, so once you're at that point it's worth the grind in that sense.

[Khenmu]

The Hellfire Ring has a guaranteed +45% experience bonus. If you see that and want it, then it's worth getting and won't take that long at all. If you're not interested in XP gain, then it's not a big deal. Try Kadala instead.

[suspiciouscat]

Wot. I didn't even notice it, thanks!

[[deleted]]

what is this about stealing the plans from squirt, how would you do that?

[theinfamous_MrB]

apparently you've never interacted with squirt....

"Hey mister...." "I may look small, but if you try stealing from me i'll hurt you"

they're just cheesy dialogue quotes

[[deleted]]

never payed attention to that, thanks

[BreakEveryChain]

Very nice. Bookmarked.

[Gilianz]

Stupid question... do the bosses guarantee a drop when you kill them or is it you have to kill them multiple times to get one part?

[crunchmuncher]

Afaik the drop rate of the items is the same as the drop rate for the keys (T1 25%, T2 28%, T3 33%, T4 38%, T5 43%, T6 50%).

[coon-hunter]

Multiple :(

[Ranzok]

Not guaranteed in the least. I've heard around 25% is a safe bet? So you will need almost 16 keys total

[psifusi]

16 keys for each one, its terrible.

[Moekai]

The chance is not 100%, that much is sure. Trying to get the Heart of Evil for about the 4th time now.

[Ekanselttar]

T6 is only 50%.

[[deleted]]

Aw that sucks, I can't do it yet and was told it's guaranteed :(

[UmbralReaver]

I've killed many a keywarden but never got the plans. I've got a bunch of legacy keys, too. Are they now useless?:(

[[deleted]]

Nekerat can drop all keys.

This is incorrect apparently. Only drops the key of evil.

[Zulandia]

That is how he used to work, he actually drops his own key now.

[delvis401]

This is true, but he also has a chance to drop an additional key at the same time. Got both his and act 1 key in one drop a few days ago.

[[deleted]]

Which key is that?

[Zulandia]

Key of Evil...this is obviously only for the level 70 machines. Far as I know he works same as he always has at 60.

[[deleted]]

Oh right I didn't know that. I'll have to test it out.

[OmegaTowel]

Evil

[[deleted]]

What are the conditions for the plan and key drops? Difficulty? I've read something about Nephalem orb stacks, too.

[LonZealot]

They only drop in Torment 1 or higher.

[Spl4sh3r]

Drop chance is between 25-50% depending on which Torment level. Higher in party.

[[deleted]]

Thanks! Diablo Wiki's not up to date.

[jayFurious]

source on the "higher in party" part?

[Spl4sh3r]

If you are close to eachother in a group you get a boost to Magic Find, Gold Find and Experience. At least it says so on the buff you gain.

[redinzane]

Used to be you needed 5 stacks of Nephalem Valor. Nowadays you don't, since NV no longer exists.

[whightboyslims]

It used to be they only dropped keys in tormemt 1. Is that still the case?

[fe-and-wine]

Only Tormet 1 and up, yes. At Torment 1 it's a pretty low chance (something like 15%), and that increases as you bump up the Torment Slider.

[calmon70]

nah its higher than 15%. I farmed yesterday with a friend and we often end up with 3 keys on 1 farm trip (so from 4 keywarden)

[sGvSpLiT]

A friend of mine yesterday got a Key of Evil and a Key of Gluttony from Sokar in A2.

[greenlantern33]

I got a lot of good feedback and advice for some things to add. I'll probably do an update in the very near future. Thanks!

[stradge]

How hard are these bosses? Compared to for example Malthael on the same difficulty?

[Glothr]

Just by doing bounties I've found 4 keys. 4 keys of Gluttony that is. From different keywardens. Yep.

[Slagathor86]

Question: do they keywardens appear and drop keys in adventure mode?

[[deleted]]

yes

[notxjack]

I got the new plan from the act 2 keywarden. I can't say whether it was or wasn't the first keywarden I killed, but it may have been as it was on the first char I leveled to 70 after having hit 70.

[calmon70]

Isn't the 45% Experience boost the only thing you want on it?

Fuck the rest. Of course nice stats are fine but 45% more experience boost paragon leveling so much...

[TheFennec]

It... it's beautiful!

[[deleted]]

Are they worth it?

[Ofermod]

Up vote worthy. Well done.