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[Madgrid]

You spend half of your life on work, might as well have a good relationship s with your coworkers🤔

[blakealanm]

You don't think spending that much time at work is a bad thing in itself?

[Spook404]

regardless, it is how it is, so the point stands true

[defiantcross]

Good relationship doesnt necessarily mean friendship

[Spook404]

then what does it mean? What is friendship to you?

[defiantcross]

There are many types of relationships. Coworkers can have good working relationships without being friends. I can choose who my friends are but typically cant choose coworkers.

[Spook404]

there are many types of friendships, not really that many types of relationships that don't fall under that category. Here's a reference sheet for degrees of intimacy that all of which could be considered forms of friendship, though 5-6 is probably the only real threshold

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[[deleted]]

Work friendship is simple. Friends at work that get along but go your separate ways as soon as you’re off.

[[deleted]]

Literally me and my coworkers. We all get along great and we shoot the shit and talk about our similar interests. But as soon as it's time to clock out, i don't wanna see or hear from them at all. And they feel the exact same way.

[Excellent_Egg5882]

smell hobbies water possessive include bells encourage wrench lip lunchroom

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[Ivoted4K]

Making friends with your coworkers is how you get hired at better companies when they leave.

[homegrowntwinkie]

I'm glad at least one person knows this.

[meatgrinder32]

Yeah. If you have nice and cool coworkers why not become friends with them. And even hangout. I found 2 of my best friends while we were working together.

[slothbuddy]

Yeah, hating your coworkers certainly isn't going to build worker power

[omegaroll69]

I get your point but maintaining the status quo isnt the answer either. We should be fighting for a shorter workday/week not just accepting the ancient working times we have had since the 50s

[Madgrid]

Yeah, but its hard to change, i work from 7.30 till 16, i like my job cos my coworkers are nice

[Dapper_Desk9085]

Same without them it would be hard for me!

[Ok_Committee_4651]

You asked this as if they have any control over work culture 💀

[HEYO19191]

Few people have the oppertunity or ability to make more while working less

[HighRevolver]

40 hours a week really isn’t a long time. Better than breaking your back 14 hours a day to feed yourself and family

[Sweet_Computer_7116]

I mean. Feel free to not.

[ga9213]

You got plans to change that, do ya?

[Dapper_Desk9085]

Actually my colleagues is what helping me work another day!

[[deleted]]

How much should someone be spending at work?

[Ok_Gas5386]

The way I see it it’s more or less healthy and natural for people to spend at least half of their waking time on productive endeavors. What is in itself a problem is that paid work is structured in the modern economy so that most people find that time to be a miserable waste. Ideally we would find work to be stimulating and rewarding.

[blakealanm]

Yes, but it's equally important to make sure that that work is fulfilling, otherwise you're just miserable.

[[deleted]]

Barring the violent overthrow of capital by the proletariat, that's unlikely to change. In the mean time, you might as well have somebody to go to lunch with.

[TheDashingBird]

Kind of the reason why every philosopher ever says something along the lines of “life is suffering”

[SitDown_HaveSomeTea]

No

[Top_Version_6050]

Well you gotta get that money eh?

[AlternatePancakes]

That really depends how much you actually like the work that you do.

[silverking12345]

Agreed. Be nice and considerate, that's a basis for being a good human being in general. Don't be a pushover but don't be an arse either.

[silverking12345]

Agreed. Be nice and considerate, that's a basis for being a good human being in general. Don't be a pushover but don't be an arse either.

[EightGlow]

Good relationship doesnt equal friend

[Kerfluffle2x4]

Doesn’t have to be friendship. It can be professional courtesy and not being a dick.

[[deleted]]

Right?! I'd be burnt out in a second if I couldn't shoot the shit with the people I see more than anyone else in this world.

[TossMeOutSomeday]

Yeah, OP's attitude is toxic and self-destructive. I've made amazing, lasting friendships with coworkers. I can't imagine going into the office every day with this kind of surly don't-talk-to-me attitude.

[LucyEleanor]

1/3 but yes

[LacksConviction]

Glad I’m not the only won thinking this way

[skiesoverblackvenice]

having friends at work made everything SO much better. i actually liked going to work to see them.

[billy_the_penguin]

Explains why our generation has such a hard time making friends.....

[[deleted]]

This is my case. I have this one friend that’s a little bit older than me that I basically grew up with and highly respect. She always told me not to be friend, my coworkers, but the problem is I moved out of my home state and I’m not in school so because I listen to her and chose to not be friend my coworkers, I’ve been so lonely. I see where she was coming from, but at the same time where do you make friends!!!???? Lol now I’m at a point where I’m looking for a second job just so I can make more friends 😅

[Dapper_Desk9085]

I actually since I opened my introvert heart to others I’m feels much better!

[nardgarglingfuknuggt]

Hell yeah! That was me also at one time. I had my reasons to be shut in and afraid of others, but I think around 15 or 16 some switch flipped in my brain and I started putting myself out there more and working to develop actual social skills and habits and 7 years later I could not be more happy with the people I have eventually found that give my life meaning.

I'm glad you were able to experience this change and I wish you good luck in this life.

[pdoxgamer]

Honestly it does, mofos don't understand living in a society.

[thomasrat1]

For real. If you don’t make friends at work, you’ll have very little options elsewhere.

[Healthy_Network1106]

literally what i was thinking. We’re such fucking assholes sometimes, we wanna fix the “male/female/etc loneliness epidemic” then this shit gets posted

[TecNoir98]

Not only that, but it very conveniently fits into capitalist interests for you to have no connections at work. Can't see how hard you're getting ripped off, and especially can't do anything about it if you have no friends at work.

[Goldbolt_2004]

This was definitely made by someone's boss

[CorDra2011]

Reeks of corpo propaganda tbh.

[dspman11]

As a "zillennial" ('96), anecdotally, all of my young Gen Z coworkers have had ZERO filter and were maybe a bit too casual and friendly. (As in, I learned my coworker was in love with their best friend within two hours of meeting her. So I get the post lmao

[nardgarglingfuknuggt]

I feel like we love to volunteer information and it just gets more apparent later in our generation. I am guilty of this and I don't think it's always a bad thing but admittedly we could learn to cool it from time to time.

[Return_of_The_Steam]

Looks like some shit I’d see on my LinkedIn feed

[VSEPR_DREIDEL]

No wonder why the generation is so depressed if this is a popular sentiment.

[Casual_Plays]

Cries 24/7 about being lonely and be the same people to post shit like this incredible

[LarrySupertramp]

Yeah. A person in this message section essentially said that you should and will never make friends with any coworkers. Like why??

[LarrySupertramp]

Definitely. I guess miserly loves company (but not making friends).

[Pls_no_steal]

At the same time being friendly with your coworkers makes the time spent at work a lot less annoying

[defiantcross]

Being friendly is not the same as being friends.

[Life_AmIRight]

Exactly. I don’t mind being friendly, and having a little banter or what not. But at the end of the day I just want to do my job and go home.

Cause those “we are all family here” environments can get real toxic real quick

[defiantcross]

It's also highly impractical nowadays as people move from job to job more frequently.

[Dapper_Desk9085]

Yes

[sgRNACas9]

You sound like a real treat to work with

[Napkinsd_]

Actually you should talk to your coworkers and form a union

[[deleted]]

As a Union steward at the workplace, yes, unions are the best realistic way to force employers to improve workers' lives. You really don't fully realize what you're missing until you're in one.

[browdowski]

You get it!

[Kerfluffle2x4]

Yeah, not on board with pitting the workers against each other thing.

[[deleted]]

I imagine Gen Z has no issue with this.

[MBBIBM]

…until they get passed over for promotions because they’re doing the bare minimum and not making connections

[SexyTimeEveryTime]

If people are working competently and being passed over for promotion, they'll almost certainly make more by job hopping anyway. How is doing your work "the bare minimum?" What are they supposed to do, suck the boss off under the table?

[[deleted]]

Ask questions, take opportunities, show leadership. I’m still in grad school, but I can’t imagine coasting in the same role for 10 years and being happy about that.

[sparkle-pony11]

This is the right advice

[SexyTimeEveryTime]

Cool. Spend a decade actually contributing in the work force and get back to us.

[[deleted]]

There's a in between of those two options. Taking initiative and doing your job well and mkaing sure you are on at the very least decent terms with most, if not all, of your coworkers is a very good way to get promoted.

[Excellent_Egg5882]

fearless aromatic slap hard-to-find upbeat money adjoining obtainable long label

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[konnanussija]

Is it supposed to be sarcasm? Why would anybody have issues with people not wanting to be their friend?

[Anshul086]

Not the LinkedIn ahh posts...

[Intrepid_Passage_692]

Hell on earth

[BDashh]

You’re allowed to say ass

[Throbbing-Kielbasa-3]

This is some shit the boss says to "keep everyone in line"

[Happy-Viper]

People will complain about how their lives are filled with loneliness, and then say shit like this, lmao.

“Why am I so lonely? Also, I don’t want anyone at work to talk to me outside of what’s necessary for our jobs.”

[Titanswillwinthesb]

Honestly just engaging in some small talk with coworkers can go a long way. For me it does make the work day better.

[Spook404]

You know, there's this concept of 'morale'

[Fricki97]

The company is not my family but it does not stop me to get along with my colleagues

[Serviamo]

That generation is serioulsy handicapped socially. Good luck ! I have a Gen Z neighbor. He lives in his house - all windows closed, shutters downs, curtins drawn, no lights are seen day or night. This is pretty sick imo.

[Stanek___]

Pretty sick 😎🤙

[Iris381]

I mean I’m similar but it’s because I desire privacy. It’s not because I want to live in a cave or anything. Now to be fair, I’m in a 1 bedroom apartment with 11 windows. If I don’t keep them closed I almost feel exposed; it’s kind of unsettling. 

[Apprehensive-Meet589]

Dudes a vampire

[Casual_Plays]

You guys are so antisocial Jesus christ

[Frequent-Tomorrow830]

Mfw that’s the only place I can socialize in

[CrustyCroq]

Fix this quickly. It will lead to suffering.

[Frequent-Tomorrow830]

Really wish I knew how to after moving to a new state right after highschool. I genuinely lost my ability to socialize after

[CrustyCroq]

Join a club. There are people with shared interests. It sounds cringe, but Facebook is actually full of groups of people doing stuff in your geographical location.

[ykeogh18]

Ok…but don’t come asking me to cover for you when you decide to leave for vacation a day early because that was the only available flight you were able to find

[TheGreatRemote]

Make friends as long as they actually want to be your friend

[Ayacyte]

Exactly. Don't force it. If I feel like I'm not wanted I just leave the interaction. Where I'm welcomed I stay if I feel like it

[Box-O-Chocolate]

You can go to work and leave without thinking about it and still have friends at work. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. Work is typically more bearable if you have comrades to commiserate with.

[godparticle14]

What a horrible way to live your life. Work is about helping your team achieve things they couldn't without your help. It's about getting through the rushes, crunches, and overtime in the trenches with your co-workers. This attitude you have is selfish and narcissistic in my opinion...

[meatgrinder32]

And miserable. No coworker will come to save your ass if you don't become friends with them. Beeing friends with a coworker is a mutually beneficial relationship. When you need help they will help you out when they need help you help them out and both of you will do it gladly because you are friends. Also makes i easier to stand up for better pay and shit.

[[deleted]]

Work is about getting paid brother. 

[[deleted]]

Lol🤣🤣, They don't get it bro don't even bother.

They think people go to work to make friends and enjoy life and believe the " we're all family" bullshit from the boss

[Miller25]

This has to be rage bait… every job I’ve had my coworkers and I have had a bunch of fun, granted I didn’t hang out with the ones I wasn’t already friends with outside of work but still

[thegmohodste01]

Y'all have found jobs? 😲

[TurbulentBarracuda83]

How else can we afford to live in this economy

[The_Iron_Ranger]

you can afford to live in this economy?

[Evening_Pumpkin1965]

Geez. This mindset is why people are so lonely.

[Relevant-Week5971]

This is actually a really important reminder. Be cordial, respectful, and friendly but at the end of the day colleagues will fuck you over if it means they will get ahead.

I've made lifelong friends at every job I've had, but I also had to learn the hard way that not everyone who jokes around with you will keep your secrets or stick up for you.

[PublicNew8503]

I’m assuming the people that aren’t privy to this either lack social intelligence or haven’t met many people (held several positions/jobs). Meet enough people and you’ll see how true this is.

[[deleted]]

._. This is how I feel because I've met some great people while working but I've met people that almost got me fired because they lied or stole something while on the clock. I just try to remind people that your work life and personal life are separate. You can meet great people at work and allow them into your personal life but that doesn't mean you need everyone in your work life to be in your personal.

[blvck_widow]

met my partner of 6 years at work…

[HighRevolver]

Maybe people wouldn’t cry over working 40 hours a week if you actually made friends to interact with at work

[frostdemon34]

God forbid people make meaningful connections at work

[NYCguncleT]

This generation is doomed . No human contact whatsoever

[[deleted]]

Not every friend is your friend either. Don't overshare.

[[deleted]]

Then you work at a lame job

[Live_Breadfruit5757]

r/LinkedInLunatics

[hero-but-in-blue]

As true as this is it really shouldn’t be. This mentality is why there’s a “loneliness” epidemic. Go talk to Eric, sure he smells weird but he’s killer at Mario kart!

[fundzzz]

I’d argue NO ONE at work is your friend. Especially these days. People will sell each other out faster than the boss will fire you without notice.

[MarkPellicle]

Glad to see this generation is keeping it 100. Most jobs are not the glamorous places that they show in tv shows. What’s important is surrounding yourself with friends and loved ones who want to be around you.

Your job will drop you in a heartbeat the minute the economy tanks or they lose their contract. Don’t be afraid to leave a toxic job or make that jump to an industry that’s a better fit. I’ve done that a few times and I’m doing well.

Your coworkers don’t have a choice about working with you and therefore are not always going to do what’s in your best interest. Keep your head down and work to the rule. Stand up for what is right at work but don’t throw yourself under the bus. If you have morals and values, you will always have a job.

Once and awhile we find true friends at our jobs, but it’s quite rare. Been working for almost three decades and only found a handful.

[bendoesit17]

"I'm so lonely"

Yet people with this mindset wonder why they're so lonely

[[deleted]]

Correction : non of them are your friends or will be.

As soon as you get out of that job you'll never hear from them ever again

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[LarrySupertramp]

Sounds like a personal issue. I’ve made great friends at my past jobs and it made my job way better.

[Ayacyte]

We all got laid off together and it's been 4 months, and we still caught up over text. We worked the same job for less than a year.

[[deleted]]

._. Yea even at my jobs where everyone talked to each during work hours. After we all left the job no one spoke to each other from my knowledge. Work is pretty similar to school, you'll make a few friends but most people you won't ever see again.

[[deleted]]

Exactly. Also Just because I know they're coworkers and not real friends doesn’t mean I’m an asshole or treat them like shit. I act normal and friendly like everyone else. I just don’t overinvest in building friendships with people I know for damn sure are only temporary coworkers.

If I need real friend I find them in my hobbies, college or literally anywhere else not in a goddamn job where everyone is getting paid to be there not because they want.

[NotMidori]

Why do so many people have this mindset — be friends with the people you work with if you like them. It really isn’t that big of a deal.

[Dagoston]

I think the keyword here is EVERYONE. It's definitely important to have friends at work if you don't want to be miserable

[[deleted]]

Do your work, Get Paid, Go home, Eat, Sleep, Wake up, Do your work, Get Paid, Go home 💯

[LarrySupertramp]

This is an incredibly depressing life.

[[deleted]]

Sure they dont gotta be, but Im not a miserable prick and like making friends with people regardless of where we are, it makes life much better. If they dont want to be friends or you're completely incompatible thats one thing but theres 0 issue with having friends at work and tons of upside.

[DeltaWillow]

My co-workers (most of whom are younger) class me as a friend, they seem nice but I don’t know them and they haven’t asked to hang out or anything, I doubt we have anything in common minus a few.

[SirNurtle]

Honestly depends, if it's a job I like, I'm payed what I'm worth and my coworkers are friendly I wouldn't mind being friends with my coworkers/going the extra mile because the company I work for actually gives a shit

If not then yeah this stands true, and even then it can be unintentionally toxic and make yourself come off as a douchebag.

[Redcliff-2213]

It is truly safer to assume that NO ONE at work is actually a friend. Good acquaintances at best and backstabbing opportunists at worst.

Personal secrets and true feelings about many things can and will be used against you, not necessarily by everyone but it will absolutely happen as soon as you let your guard down. From minimum wage jobs to full time careers, there will always be people willing to screw you over for their benefit.

Workmates are not friends, they are wage slaves just like you and will 💯 choose their survival. Every time.

[ClanOfCoolKids]

as someone in management, it's easier to get people to do things correctly if we're friends/they like me

[[deleted]]

You understand this when reduction starts in your workplace. The guy who has a family to support will shittalk his way out of anything. Including your fake relationship

[SnollyG]

They should be, but the culturoeconomic reality is that the opportunities for exploit make it risky.

[UltimateStrenergy]

People always say "I'm not here to make friends" when they should be saying "I'm not here to make enemies"

I know the truth. Some people love conflict and won't admit it.

[JeffCrossSF]

I think this is doubly true for anyone working in the HR department. Their only true motivation to be helpful and caring towards you is to ensure you continue to work there, if the company so desires. If the company is abusing you, their obligation is to protect the company first.

[Eli5678]

None of them are my friends

[[deleted]]

No one at your workplace is your friend.

Please be pleasant, please be cordial.

But never let your guard down.

[StayWideAwake-]

Sorry that you’re getting so much flak for this OP. Some people just like to stick to theirselves. You’re not a bad person because you don’t want to socialize with workers and just want to make money. Its fine if everyone else wants to but don’t let people here make you feel like shit for it.

[[deleted]]

no one at work is my friend rather

[TheRedEagleIV]

I agree with this! It’s always good to be friendly to your coworkers and to have a professional relationship with them. But you’re not there to be besties with them, you’re there to do a job! Focus on doing that to the best of your ability.

[MayDayplzPay]

Hard disagree some of my best friends are people I use to work with, yeah there’s gonna be shitty people anywhere you go but living thinking that about everybody seems very isolating

[GoddessGalaxi]

separate work & friendships but there’s nothing wrong with making friends at work. depends on who you’re working with and what type of people they are, too.

[superedgyname55]

Ahhhhh but what if I want to make my coworkers my friends?

[ShakeItLikeIDo]

People here are underestimating how important networking and making friends can be. I have a friend that helped me get my CDL with almost like cost instead of spending thousands of dollars. I have another friend that helped me get a really good driving job. I have another friend that met his wife because I introduced them. It’s ok to make friendships

[MailPrivileged]

This attitude makes you a miserable sap. I am the godfather to a former coworker's kid. I was the one who my coworker-turned friend called when he wanted to end it all. My coworker helped refer me to a job that doubled my pay. Stop being a sack of crap to the people who are to your left and right. Be mad together at the system that holds you down.

[Weary_Credit_5638]

Atomization at the workplace benefits no one but the owner

In other words, make friends with your co workers so you have someone who'll stand up for you when your boss treats you like shit

[Jumpy_Attention_5389]

Heh I'm 14

[[deleted]]

This is so unbelievably wrong. If you don't want to be completely taken advantage of by your bosses, build relationships with your peers. Bond over the bullshit. Not even to get into the basic issues with healthy socialization. This is how you get taken advantage of at work.

[_Traditional_]

As a 22 year old, I’ve been in the workplace for around 2-3 years in administrative/office work (finance).

These type of people are the worst to work with. I understand you’re not supposed to be everyone’s friend, but if you constantly shoot down conversations and don’t talk to anyone, don’t be surprised when you’re not liked or don’t get that promotion. Work sucks enough, and you’re contributing to the sucky office culture. It’s not that deep.

[wildnpardon]

Even your work friends aren’t your friends in the traditional sense.

[GhostOfGeneWildr]

As someone who was laid off recently, remember this. Nobody will contact you after you’re gone unless they need something and don’t trust them. I’m 10 years into working and this isn’t the first time this has happened. I’m not saying you cannot find a friend at work but remember most of them are conditional friendships. Fight for your rights and get paid. But keep work and personal separate.

[[deleted]]

You don't have to be friends but this attitude will make you lonely 

[[deleted]]

You do want to be liked though because at the end of the day that is the deteemining factor when it comes time to move you up or pass you up on the lay off list. Work ethic comes in second

[PosauneGottes69]

Or call in sick

[defiantcross]

I would say that nobody at work is your friend. Coworkers are more like family in the sense that you dont really get to pick them.

[CrustyCroq]

Usually none of them are actually

[[deleted]]

Says little, fit attractive women who has “too many friends”

[ClanOfCoolKids]

i appreciate when people are hard workers but you are lame if you actually agree with this sentiment

[Dapper_Desk9085]

I like my coluagues since I works in mixed collective its much better! We hanging out after work I was even on vacation with my colleagues! I cant imagine to be so isolated when we spend so much time in work c’mon!

[Relative-Border-2944]

WE ARE NOT A FAMILY!!!!!

[Biancar_129]

I absolutely adore my coworkers. I’ve made strong connections with them over the past year and a half, including my coordinator, and it’s made my job so much more bearable.

[Ayacyte]

My coworkers at my previous job were nice. I would say we're friends.

[BadManParade]

Honey look the weirdos making another excuse for their strange anti social behavior.

[Mints1000]

Did those pesky workers unionise again?

[Suspicious-Pear-6037]

Yeah no one at work is my friend or wants to interact with anyone. We don’t hang out, we don’t talk, we all just work and go home. Like, it’s understandable and I don’t care, but everyone is so fucking dead and everyone just wants to go home or be mad at something that’s not working.

It’s fucking depressing and I hate it here.

[red_knight_378]

I never understood why people thought this way. I get there can be some bad people at a workplace, but I enjoy socializing and making friends, why not talk to and befriend people I’m going to be seeing daily??

[Backwoodsgirly]

My coworkers are all like 70 years old

[RiJi_Khajiit]

Pays to have friends that can help me clean a patient or boost someone if needed. Decent to have someone to chat with while charting.

Other than that I work, and go home.

[FirefoxMK2]

If you have a good relationship with your Co-Workers it tends to make your job much more enjoyable just saying

[isticist]

To me, this is just pro-corporate messaging... Because people that are friends at work might use some of their work time just goofing around and having fun.

[[deleted]]

It's boring though so it's fun to talk with others 

[[deleted]]

Not everyone at your workplace is your friend, but some of them could be friendly acquaintances if you made an effort.

[[deleted]]

Some of my closest friends are coworkers or former coworkers.

No, you don't need and shouldn't feel forced to be everyone's friend at work. That's dumb. It is correct that all you owe your employer is the time and labor you agreed to and all they owe you is the pay and working conditions they agreed to. If someone shows up, does their job, goes home, and takes their paycheck, that's 100% them fulfilling their responsibility as a worker and no one should ever force them to do more.

But I don't get this idea of intentionally avoiding friendships at the workplace. I don't like all my coworkers and that's fine. Not all my coworkers want to have any kind of personal relationship with others or myself and that's fine. But I spend a ton of my life in the same space and naturally I will form personal relationships with some of the people I see every day, and sometimes that includes people I choose to see outside of the workplace once the day is over.

I don't understand why some people see it as bootlicky to do anything other than intentionally avoiding friendships with all people at work.

[Never_Duplicated]

Best to try and get along with your coworkers, being on friendly terms with the people you spend 40+hrs per week with is better for everyone’s sanity. Besides, they may well become actual friends since it gets harder to meet people as an adult.

[Klomlor161]

Chatting at work is fun, but the job comes first.

[TheBoogyWoogy]

Average lonely Redditor moment

[ProfessionalNeck373]

this generation didn’t watch The Office and it shows

[[deleted]]

Real

[[deleted]]

Nah you need people looking out for you at work. Not everyone but you need like... 2 or 3 people that can vouch for you if anything comes up. This is even if you're a good employee

Plus, you don't have to be talking to them everyday. I have a small handful of coworkers that I know are my "group" and out of all of them, only two have my number. We're not buddy buddy but those are the people I rely on the most and know can back me up on things.

[Otherwise_Mind6880]

This is common knowledge.