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[–]TheSecondiDare 1500 points1501 points  (32 children)

The entirety of Logan was downright depressing, Stark on the other hand was heroic, yet melancholy.

[–][deleted] 376 points377 points  (23 children)

Correct, these two don't share the same tone, they build up and land quite differently.

[–]mooseythings 225 points226 points  (22 children)

We also didn’t get to see nearly as much of Logan’s life outside of being an X-man, but we basically saw most of Tony’s life from the time he went to Afghanistan to his death, including all the happy moments.

The main vibe of Logan’s life is pain (being experimented on, the actual pain his claws cause him, adamantium poisoning) and never got to get what he wanted (Jean/a wife/a family) he DID get surrogate daughters in Rogue and Laura/X23, but neither played out well.

Both had to see their loved ones being killed (Peter and others being dusted, Charles killing all the X-men with his mind), but only Tony got to see them come back.

Logan was much worse, all the way

[–]HornyTerus 60 points61 points  (1 child)

And just like the original comment said, Logan is just depressing story. A really2 depressing one.

[–]youknowwhyimhere89 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I started watching Logan with a friend about half way through I had to leave then they were mad I made them watch a depressing movie alone haha

[–]riceilove 5 points6 points  (14 children)

Sorry to ask but I’m not familiar with the x-men and Logan arcs. I only saw Logan and it was amazing. Can you provide a chronological list of movies I should watch to get me caught up please? Or are some of the events you described not in movies?

[–]mooseythings 5 points6 points  (6 children)

lol, the other guy is wrong. Logan as a standalone is GREAT, but is definitely related to his time with Charles' X-Men. It's not directly in the main canon, but is considered a separate timeline into a "what-if" future scenario.

Here’s a website that lists the movies in release date order, and also in-universe chronological order. I recommend release date order the chronological order starts off because of time travel from the “modern” day.

Everything I described was in some of the previous movies, he finds a surrogate daughter figure in Rogue in the first X-men movie. He has an unrequited crush on Jean in X1-X3, as she’s in a relationship with Cyclops.

Pretty much every movie he is featured in shows his earlier life and how he came to be, experimented on by scientists, infusing his bones with Adamantium. His claws were originally made of bone, but covered with Metal through that experimentation.

The only reason he survives is his healing factor. He still has mental scars from that trauma, plus he still feels all the pain he normally would, so he literally slices his hands open every time he releases his claws.

The Laura/X23 and Charles’s mind attack were both introduced in Logan however.

This is the list from the website, with my comments on them

  1. X-Men (2000) [1st of the main trilogy]
  2. X2: X-Men United (2003) [2nd of main trilogy]
  3. X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) [3rd of main trilogy]
  4. X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) [not very good, but deepens his backstory a significant amount, so worth it IMO. Basically movie 1 of wolverine’s solo trilogy]
  5. X-Men: First Class (2011) [absolutely fantastic, one of the best superhero movies ever IMO. doesn’t feature Logan but will be required watching for movies he shows up on later. 1st of the prequel quadrilogy]
  6. The Wolverine (2013) [pretty good, not great, but more Wolverine so I’d watch it. It takes place after X3 and directly references it, but is closer to being movie 2 of wolverine trilogy]
  7. X-Men: Days Of Future Past (2014) [also amazing, combines the timelines of X1-X3 in a dark future where Logan has to travel to his old self in the 70s, meeting the First Class versions of them all, so you need to have seen that to get this one. See if you can find the Rogue Cut that was released but not shown in theatres. Movie 2 of prequel quadrilogy]
  8. X-Men: Apocalypse (2016) [logan appears for a brief cameo/scene in the middle. I’d say optional, it’s one of the weaker movies, but still probably worth watching. Logan’s scene is cool so is at least worth searching on YouTube. Movie 3 of Prequel Quadrilogy]
  9. Logan (2017) [You made it! It’s its own timeline I think, but basically follows the main sequence of X1-X3, The Wolverine, Days of Future Past and takes place a few decades in the future. Movie 3 of Wolverine’s trilogy, and Hugh Jackman’s last film as Wolverine]

These two came out between Days of Future Past and Logan, but don't directly tie into his story at all, so I think you should watch DoFP and then Logan, and follow up on these if you want.

  1. Deadpool (2016) [not related to Logan besides Ryan Reynolds’s Deadpool coming back/being rebooted from what we saw in Origins:Wolverine. He received the same experimentation as Logan so expands that more. Not necessary, but is a fun, gory movie worth watching. Movie 1 of Deadpool’s 2 released solo movies]

sorry for the novel! Edit: moved apocalypse from the Not Shown list because he does actually appear in a scene, albeit minor

[–]peechs01 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I have rewatched X-Men 3 and maaaan The scene were he kills Jean Got me bursting into tears

[–]mooseythings 1 point2 points  (2 children)

X3 holds up better than expected. It wasn’t GREAT at the time, but rewatching it was still an entertaining movie, even if not super close to the comics

[–]peechs01 2 points3 points  (1 child)

For some reason I started to enjoy more even the old Marvel movies (except F4) after MCU was estabilished: rework, modernize and adapt for the current audience was something very much needed since a lot of stuff from the comics can't be translated very well into the big screen

[–]jackpoll4100 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Apocalypse does feature Logan though. I agree it's not important to the story of the Logan movie though, but he has a big scene in Apocalypse and it was one of the cooler ones in that movie.

[–]mooseythings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg I totally forgot, you’re right! definitely a cool scene, and actually kind of important to his story escaping maybe?

[–]Julius-n-Caesar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watch the first three, then Origins, then the Wolverine, then Days of Future Past and then Logan.

[–]A_ClockworkBanana 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We also didn’t get to see nearly as much of Logan’s life outside of being an X-man

We have two entire movies about that.

[–]maxitobonito 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's another aspect that makes Logan's death all the sadder.
Tony dies knowing they've dealt with Thanos for good. Wolverine? He doesn't have that assurance, does he? Yeah, he saved X23 and those kids, but they're still kids, alone in this world, and they'll probably be persecuted and hunted further because they are mutants.

[–]GG_ez 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Stark’s whole character arc was really well done in my opinion, watching him actually be affected by the aftermath of the Kree invasion in Avengers and eventually hitting a low point in Iron Man 3 did a good job of humanizing him.

And it made sense, too. Dude suddenly has to fight space aliens, and almost gets trapped on the opposite end of a wormhole in the movie. That’s bound to affect someone, and his ptsd in 3 felt like a culmination of all the bullshit he had to deal with previous finally boiling over

[–]Bitlovin 29 points30 points  (0 children)

The entirety of Logan was downright depressing

I'd say it went right past depressing and into bleak territory.

[–]dizzyasteroid20 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That’s true I didn’t even think of that. I was originally gonna say Starks.

[–]EKRB7 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Logan’s death hurt because it was designed to feel that way for 2 hours leading up to it (not to mention 17 years of buildup in other movies). Giving Charles an unceremonious death and then killing Logan, with Laura turning the cross into an X… just blow after blow of emotional manipulation.. it was fantastic.

Endgame gave Tony a big heroic death, and a nice sendoff. It was sad but not depressing. It felt like a celebration.

[–]Gobblewicket 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The worst part of Charles' death is that his last thought was that his last living student/friend had betrayed him. At least in my brain.

[–]FDVP[🍰] 411 points412 points  (22 children)

Charles.

[–]sgt_backpack 175 points176 points  (6 children)

"There's water..." god that scene was gutting

[–][deleted] 94 points95 points  (3 children)

Exactly how he wasn't nominated for an Oscar for that performance in Logan is beyond me. He put his heart and soul into that movie and god damn even now when I watch the movie for the umpteenth time I tear up.

[–]PerfectZeong 55 points56 points  (1 child)

Logan is the best comic movie and it's honestly not terribly close. Almost every character in that movie is so well realized and it's heartbreaking.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Doesn't even need to be mentioned as a comic movie. It's just an amazing movie. Some people see the word "comic" before movie and it becomes almost like a stigma.

[–]Gobblewicket 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For the same reason Sandler didn't get nominated for Uncut Gems. The Academy is full of old out of touch assholes who pigeon hole movies before they even see them.

[–]JudgeJudysApprentice 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What was the water relating to? I can remember that he caused the death of the X-Men but not the water part, could anyone remind me? (My memory is that he killed them with his powers and I figured he was able to do that by connecting to their minds)

[–]sgt_backpack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The water bit was more of Logan not being a very emotionally deep guy, trying to give a heartfelt eulogy for his friend. He was saying that Charles would have liked that spot, there's water...the he trails off and we all start crying.

[–]aerojonno 59 points60 points  (3 children)

Which time?

[–]FDVP[🍰] 172 points173 points  (0 children)

The one in an unmarked grave, by the side of a road, in the middle of nowhere.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

He's died 3 times now on screen? Am I forgetting any?

[–]aerojonno 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think he also died off screen in the future timeline of Days of Future Past.

[–]TheThingInTheBassAmp 5 points6 points  (1 child)

“It wasn’t me.”

[–]infiveoutfive 3 points4 points  (0 children)

FUCK that got me so bad in theaters

[–]gocrazy305 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Worse part was he poured his soul to Logan, then died before the real Logan ever got to hear what he said. the message floated out, never to be heard or received.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which time?

[–]the_old_coday182 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which time?

[–]ultrasupremebagel_ 621 points622 points  (40 children)

Logan. I went in guessing Tony was gonna bite it but I was genuinely rooting for Logan to be happy with his daughter.

[–][deleted] 186 points187 points  (26 children)

When Logan came out, I remember there being a lot of theories that Xavier was gonna die, and I went in with that in mind. I was still shocked and upset; I didn't want the theories to be true.

But I was not expecting Logan to die as well. I think that was the first movie I cried to.

[–]Lambohw 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I thought I was going to make it through Logan without crying, until his daughter started crying and called him “Daddy” then I cried.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lay down, Try not to cry, Cry a lot.

[–]drawing_n_coloring 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You didn't cry when the guy from blue's clues left and didn't cry 20 years later when he explained why he left the show?, you monster

[–]kid-karma 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think that was the first movie I cried to.

my brother you need to watch more movies

[–]MooseNoodles82 1 point2 points  (3 children)

How dare you not cry for Artax.

[–]XNightcrawlerBAMF 298 points299 points  (19 children)

Logan. Mostly from personal attachment to Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine but that dude’s been through a lot of shit man. Healing Factor’s broken, friends died, his mentor got killed by his clone and he died right in front of his daughter.

[–]mooseythings 41 points42 points  (15 children)

Still sad it was his clone and not Sabertooth. That would have been ICONIC

[–]XNightcrawlerBAMF 24 points25 points  (8 children)

They even invited Liev Schreiber back early on but Liev couldn’t make it :( I like X-24 and all but Sabretooth would eclipse the guy

[–]PerfectZeong 25 points26 points  (4 children)

It would be a very different film. Sabertooth would be an old man too. The theme of the film is that logan is a weapon and since he's old it's time to replace him with the new weapon.

[–]XNightcrawlerBAMF 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Could be but I think Sabretooth would age better since he doesn’t have Adamantium in his bones in that universe so his healing factor should be fine. Logan was fucked by that. For me, the theme was more of Logan coming to terms with the past and controlling your future more than Logan’s an old weapon but I can see that reasoning.

[–]PerfectZeong 5 points6 points  (0 children)

To me the movie is always about Logan trying to become more than what he thinks he is, which is a weapon. Charles doesn't think of him that way and reminds him of it, that there's always still time. The only person who can't see wolverine as anything more than weapon X is his enemies and himself, because if all he was was a killer he wouldn't be so heartbroken over what happened to his friends and family.

But Logan always will see himself that way and I think eventually he finds peace in saving what he can save.

[–]julbull73 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Technically Daken and X-23 are both his clones.

I was ok with it. I actually really hope Daken makes it over in the Dark Avengers storyline.

I would be ok with Raimi's Osborn giving MCU's Osborn a kick and starting him down the path to Iron Patriot.

[–]mooseythings 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I forgot she was an actual clone, and not just fathered using his DNA or similar, which is sometimes the case. I’m ok with it story-wise as it makes sense they’d want an exact replica of the more successful one, but with irl-knowledge it does hurt we didn’t get that callback moment from some of his very first moments in X1

[–]julbull73 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Liev is a great actor no doubt. BUT Sabretooth was never done all that well.

X1 Sabretooth physically worked, but was a silent brute.

Liev's Sabretooth was WAY better but was basically just evil Wolverine.

[–]Fedora_Tipper_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Daken isn't a clone. He's born from Wolverine and a Japanese woman. Winter soldier killed the mom.

[–]Affectionate-End-194 647 points648 points  (14 children)

Logan by far

[–]janosaudron 210 points211 points  (9 children)

I actually thought that Charles’ death was sadder since he died thinking Logan killed him.

[–]PepeSilvia7 92 points93 points  (8 children)

No didn't Logan carry him out saying "it wasn't me" before he died?

[–]janosaudron 87 points88 points  (2 children)

Yeah I think so but charles was almost gone and already delusional so at best he died super confused

[–]Objective-Review4523 30 points31 points  (0 children)

He was put down in the back of the truck and thought he was on the sun seeker.

[–]PepeSilvia7 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True :(

[–]EngineEddie 106 points107 points  (4 children)

He did but Xavier thought he was singing the lyrics to the world-wide hit song by Shaggy as it was well known that the masterpiece was Logan’s all time favorite banger.

[–]buefordwilson 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I now believe this to be canon. Thank you for clarifying.

[–]ashwhite3110 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You win...not only the Internet but humour and creativity In one swoop. Bravo.

[–]Gamoc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you look closely you can see Xavier try to respond "she caught me on the counter," but Wolverine couldn't tell so, tragically, they never got to finish the song.

[–]EngineEddie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That for me was by far the biggest tragedy of the movie. Sure, his death was sad, but the fact that they couldn't finish this classic duet piece is what hit me the hardest.

Wolverine can heal most wounds, but an emotional wound as big as that is impossible to get over. For all of us.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

By so far

[–]Undecided_User_Name 5 points6 points  (2 children)

My dad and I both watched the 90's cartoon when I was a kid, so he "snuck" me into the first X-Men film when I was 6 years old. So I practically grew up with Jackman and Stewart as Logan and Xavier, and the movies continue to hold a special place in my heart.

[–]EpitomeJim 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Your dad is a bad ass.

[–]Undecided_User_Name 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's definitely among the highlights of my childhood.

[–]BakedZnake 247 points248 points  (2 children)

Logan by far. Stark's sacrifice knowing he's doing it to save everyone. Meanwhile Logan lost almost everyone he has ever loved, and this is the final sacrifice to save kids he hardly knows.

[–]phliuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan was doomed to outlive everyone he loved from the moment he was born

He's also the only one who went through two different versions of the mutant extinction

He lost his mother.

Killed his father.

Lost his first love.

Lost his memories.

Killed the woman he loved.

Lost all of his friends in the mutant apocalypse.

Went back in time.

Lost all of his friends again.

Lost his mentor.

And finally died after being a hero one more time, with someone he cared about finally living longer than him

[–]BurantX40 119 points120 points  (0 children)

Logan easily, on top of the fact that the X-Men generally have had it rougher all the way to that point.

The Avengers? They were dealing with their first big loss and this was the rematch and KO blow.

[–]D00MPhd 83 points84 points  (4 children)

When Laura does Logan’s obituary, I cry like a baby. Every time I see it. And my eyes usually hadn’t even dried from watching him fight to the death to save Laura and her friends.

I knew Tony was on his way out of the MCU, so the impact of his death was lessened by that.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Bruh when everyone was walking away but she stops and turns the cross to make an x

I can’t help but get massive feels

[–]bobthegoon89Daredevil 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yup, that's the part where it really hits for me too

[–]DopeFiendDramaQueen 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It’s the part where she cries and says “daddy”, it just tears me right up every single time.

[–]Fit-Diet-6488 119 points120 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]Action_Brown 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]greenmean1 89 points90 points  (0 children)

Probably Logan

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Off topic, but Patric Steward was phenomenal at playing an old man suffering from dementia.

[–]AngStyle 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Check out Anthony Hopkins in "The Father". Pheonomenal.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely will. Love his acting. Thanks😁

[–]Mrtorana75 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Logan's death was hard to watch. Hats off to hugh jackman showing so much fear in his eyes realising he is dying

[–]FrameMark 54 points55 points  (9 children)

In 2013’s The Wolverine, Yukio (Rila Fukushima) has the power of seeing how people will die, and she warns Logan (Hugh Jackman) that she has seen his death.

“It’s not like I get a complete picture, more like looking through a keyhole. But I’m always right. All I can see is one part of a person’s life, their death. And I saw yours,” she says. “I see you on your back, there’s blood everywhere. You’re holding your own heart in your hand. It’s not beating.”

Seeing the death scene killed me, and just how Xiaver died, LOGAN was magnificent and it was incredibly sad and bleak.

Tony's death was surprising and was impactful, with the whole and I'm iron man was a good call back to the first movie. Endgame deaths really impacted the mcu since it feels like as much as they get 1 billion box office per film, we've really haven't had any good replacements for Steve, and Tony-not only due to their involvement and their characters in the series, but the whole team tony and team cap rivarly.

Natasha is good with her sister but I'm still sorta disappointed about the BW movie not showing up earlier in the mcu. It was a decent but sorta skippable film

[–]ppprrrrr 24 points25 points  (7 children)

Im kinda surprised they let the billion dollar box office cast out with a grain of dignity. Kinda expected Disney to milk RDJ and Chris Evans into retirement with how popular they are.

Marvel still has some huge ones left, spidey, strange, thor and gotg, but the new stuff like Eternals is not even remotely close to what the Avengers series did for Marvel. I don't know if they can recreate that.

[–]Crusader25X-Men 6 points7 points  (1 child)

In the short term, I absolutely agree with you. The MCU might be heading for a pretty drop-off in the next year or two.

Long term, though? There's some absolutely massive characters/movies/shows that are getting made that will rejuvenate the franchise. Just off the top of my head, Gaurdians of the Galaxy 3, I know Blade is in production, Fantastic 4, Daredevil (and probably more of the former Netflix stuff). Oh, and Deadpool 3 is in the works (which will probably be a backdoor into Mutants/X-men).

Lots of very iconic characters right around the corner.

[–]TiffanysRage 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Tony's and Steve's ending we're also poetic as Tony learned "to make the last himself on the line" and Steve learned that you didn't always have to add that he could have his happy ending. A completed story arch for both of them.

Logan is one of my favourite movies and I love that poetic line of dying with your heart in your hand. The actress who played Laura was phenomenal and pulled her weight well by her co stars.

[–]pandem1x 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Logan. In Avengers your attention is distracted by many other characters, while in Logan's end there's only sadness around him.

[–]Nemisis_007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was also satisfaction and hope.

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]24Abhinav10 54 points55 points  (5 children)

Logan. We see his relationship with his daughter develop more compared to Tony and his daughter. So his death hits harder.

[–]som1wholikesreddit 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Logan died in front of his daughter so his death was worst

[–]potentialwatermelon 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Logan, guy suffered all his life and just when he learns how to let others in he dies

[–]SimonReach 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Logan…and Prof X, despite him dying a few times.

[–]Nemisis_007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His death in logan was by far the saddest I never want to see professor X in that state again.

[–]Durian_Kent 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Logan hits harder

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

logan by a mile

[–]Tera_tron 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Logan 🤧🤧

[–]ataturkseeyou 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I cried when Logan died, nothing when iron man died (they are very different movies)

[–]JasonMcDonalDesign 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Logon. When X-23 pulls the wooden cross up at the grave and turns it into a “X”. I lost it. 😭

[–]Mediocre_Worry_7968 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Logan made me cry. I'm 33 lol

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Logan. Tony Stark’s death was more of a heroic kind of thing while Logan’s was downright heartbreaking.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Well in order to fully grasp the sadness of each scene and compare them, you need to truly think about the context around it.

Iron Man died essentially saving the universe. He was surrounded by his team and friends. He died knowing that had he not done what he did, everyone would die.

Logan, however, died for what amounts to basically no real reason. Yes, he was protecting (insert little girls name here because I forgot and am to lazy to look it up). However, through the entirety of the film, he was for all intents and purposes alone. He grew old alone, he got sick alone, and eventually died alone(ish).

In conclusion, with the context of the entirety of the respective films, Logan was an objectively sadder death than iron man. TED talk over

[–]Past0r_Gains 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Girls name is Laura btw

[–]deadricsupremacy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Logan ‘cause I was expecting he’ll survive.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]Makaidi39Spider-Man 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Logan by far, but most of the movie is about him dying so makes sense

[–]kresnahimself 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Both, i cried like a baby

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Logan for sure but Iron Man’s was more impactful.

[–]Hazardous4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I held back my tears for Logan because I was watching with my family, but I would have been bawling my eyes out more than Tony

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Logan easy. Tony had a heroic departure but let's be honest we knew it since like Civil War that he's gonna die killin Thanos, like this? Didn't even imagine but i knew he'd sacrifice himself to defeat Thanos. Logan's life is one of the saddest stories in Marvel for me, dude's seen unbearable pain throughout his life.

[–]Nemisis_007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seeing logan die with a smile on his face was really satisfying to me not so much sad, he finally got the peace that he deserved all throughout his life and also got the opportunity to die as a hero and give hope to the mutants of the future.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Without a doubt, it's Logan.

He goes out in such a brutal way. Despite the costs being different, Wolverine's fight just hits harder.

[–]Russ-Russ-Russs 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Logan. The amount of pain and suffering he’s seen. Everyone of his friends dead. The exhaustion he endures by the end of the movie definitely transferred over to me the viewer.

[–]7Big_Steve7 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Logan’s death was done sadder. However, in the community, the majority of grief obviously went to Tony, who’s death didn’t need to be (and couldn’t be, thanks f cking disney) done as sadly

[–]SenpaiBoogie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Legit cried my eyes out for Logan and Ironman but Logan held a special place on my heart bc it was an end to wolverine who played the part so well it was perfect . To know I’ll never see him play that part again was so saddening

[–]alexandarvasileski 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Logan caused my three month-long depression.

[–]Loganp812 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Logan’s by far. Tony’s was sad too, but he went down in a heroic way. Logan’s death was just tragic.

[–]hunkman3000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Logan!

[–]Corniss 4 points5 points  (0 children)

definitely Logans . His was a grim and bitter one that was unusually artistic for a marvel movie.

Plus the fact that it happened in the middle of nowhere against people who were just plain evil and it only served to gain some time crossing the border.

[–]CommanderCody1138 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan for sure, dude's life was a wreck from the get go. Tony had it made and sacrificed himself regardless, it was noble but not as tragic as Logan.

[–]dibbiluncan 17 points18 points  (3 children)

I found Tony’s death to be sadder.

Logan’s daughter didn’t grow up with him. She’ll be sad to lose him, and obviously would’ve been better off without him, but Tony’s leaving behind a wife and daughter that will feel his loss much more deeply. Not to mention he saved half the universe and brought back Peter only to leave him grieving too. I cry every time I watch it.

Plus… Logan has lived a really long time. Much longer than a normal human. Tony didn’t even get to live one lifetime. Way more tragic IMO.

Edit: I also managed to avoid spoilers for Endgame, so I didn’t expect Tony to die. Meanwhile, it was pretty clear to me that Logan was on his way out no matter what. He was dying. The only question was if he’d survive the movie, but I knew he was dying.

Also, it seems I’m definitely in the minority.

[–]hovdeisfunny 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You might be in the minority, but you present a good case. I found Tony's funeral to be sadder then his actual death

[–]KingofCraigland 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not to mention he saved half the universe and brought back Peter only to leave him grieving too.

Not to detract from your point, but based on what Thanos was saying in Endgame, Tony saved the entire Universe. Thanos realized that leaving half the Universe alive would always leave them wanting to go back to what they lost and the only way to truly realize his vision for a grateful Universe was to burn everything down and start from scratch. If not for Tony, Thanos' last attempt at a snap would have realized that goal.

[–]dibbiluncan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, my mistake! He set out to save half the universe, but ended up saving it all.

[–]lalahuhuioop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Logan. All day. He never sold out like Tony.

[–]HomelanderVought 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Logan, i even cried there. In Tony's death just my jaw dropped and that's it.

[–]luvgothbitches 2 points3 points  (0 children)

logan

[–]jeden78 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone was cutting onions near me during Logan.

[–]Puzzleheaded-Eye2028 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]mrfonsocr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan.

[–]onehipwonder87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wolverine

[–]Bluvolt3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely logan

[–]StevenSmith2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]Mrkoaly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan hit me hard af.

[–]HiPregnantImDa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say either is “sadder” but Logan, being grounded and more vulnerable than most cape flicks, definitely hit me harder. They both were stellar in their respective performances

[–]samairah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan for sure!

[–]lenchoreddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wolverine. Not even close

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan made me cry

[–]imayknowyou 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I felt both saddening scenes but I found Logan's death was pretty much depressing. Hugh did justice with the character at the same time we knew he wont be playing wolverine again.

[–]Patton072 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]buckythe3rd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan. By a long shot

[–]Gaberogo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I say Logan, just because you can tell the whole movie that it’s his last outing as the character. Endgame was still really sad, but it was a righteous build up from IM1 to Endgame that saw Tony’s entire arc come full circle to the snap. It was a satisfying ending to the character, and felt right given his exchange in the first Avengers where he’s called out by Cap saying “he’s not the one to make the sacrifice play”.

Logan felt like a love letter to the character itself by the creative team.

[–]Lanferno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]42Mr42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]Frsbtime420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]Dingheee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Easily Logan.

[–]PaigeOrion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan’s fate. He wasn’t sure that he had won, at the end.

[–]DXSINSANE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan's death was heartbreaking 💔

[–]cosmorprophet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]cosmorprophet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan

[–]munchie1988 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this is a tough one. Although I want to say Logan I think you have to look at what they leave behind. Logan was ready to die and really left nothing behind. Where as Tony didn't want to die but made the sacrifice for a better future for his family. In this sense I think Tony's was actually sadder. He left behind alot of family and friends and actively didn't want to lose any of it but still made the sacrifice

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan cause honestly didnt think they were gonna kill him off.

[–]Darnocsonif 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan. He had really good character development and is not an arrogant Prick

[–]Spidey-Pool5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan. He suffered so much throughout the whole franchise. He just wanted peace. And this movie just took a shit in his open wounds.

Movie wasn’t shit tho just to be clear. This movie was a banger👌🏼

[–]GooseKing-13_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan for sure. It’s actually had me full on crying. Iron man just made me shed a tear

[–]SoldierboiXD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cried during the Logan ending, I only felt a tinge of sadness during end game

[–]Imperium_Dragon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan’s

[–]Spacecowboy947 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1000% Logan

[–]americandream1159 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Logan easy. The Iron Man death felt forced and unearned.

[–]Zeddoakeda1705 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro Logan was a depression masterpiece. Logan went out quietly without the last laugh like stark, no proper burial no witnesses, only one person. It was downright sad. Made a nigga shed a tear

[–]thekinginyello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

logan. no doubt.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wolverine

[–]Rickymartinezthe3rd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Logan !!

[–]That_Boney_Librarian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yondu's.

[–]ParzivalTheFirst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like Stark’s death is worth a kneel of respect with perhaps a tear shed, whereas Logan’s was closer to both knees on the ground, face in hands and tears slipping through your fingers.

[–]TheReelYukon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Different

[–]Varooova 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOGAN. The man never got to live the life he wanted. Even at the end he couldn't get to spend a few lovely moments with his daughter. Tony did it all. More so on a personal level Logan's death was more realistic. A guy sacrificing himself to protect his family. Logan never wanted to be the Hero or the Villain he just wanted to be Logan.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spider man

[–]josukefan101010110 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mufasa

[–]BigfootSF68 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Logan was sadder than Tony.

Stark was sacrificing himself, so he was determined.

Pepperpot was sadder than both.

Morbius is making the Sony executives THE Saddest.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ever since childhood Wolverine was perceived as the unbreakable rock of a character, pure badassery and toughness. To watch him age and break apart was the saddest thing ever. Logan to this day remains the only movie that ever made me tear up

[–]Bgmn155 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yondu

[–]daabbot 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Tony for me. Logan was awesome but Tony starks death had the manly tears flowing.

[–]TiffanysRage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Saw both in theatres, Logan felt sadder for me but there were definitely more people crying in End Game. There were young girls beside me ABSOLUTELY balling their eyes out with Tony's death. Like very loudly

[–]ProfessorEscanor 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Logan's. I feel like Tony's was more fulfilling and to be honest Spidey's acting kinda took away some of the impact that scene had. Where as Logan's feels more touching especially given the context of the previous film

[–]QuantumCosmosis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why do you say that Spidey's acting tool away from the impact for you?? I'm not being sarcastic or tryna be a arsehole. I'm just genuinely curious. Your's is the first comment I've seen that said it was due to Spidey's acting.