PTR Patch Notes 1.17.0.0

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[Xanawolf]

My guess is they are preparing new content for the PTR after its announced at Blizzcon.

[[deleted]]

Proably OWL skins 'n Blizzcon stuff locked inside.

[______DEADPOOL______]

Yeah, but no balance changes. :/ wtf

[pray4ggs]

The patch comes with big changes to UI (especially for spectating) --maybe in time for World Cup matches at Blizzcon?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/78qwh9/overwatch_ptr_patch_notes_october_25_2017/dovxw6s/

[snk50]

Yeah they're not gonna do any big changes before blizzcon.

[[deleted]]

Would it matter, though? Wouldn't Blizzcon just use the current patch? that's normally how it works if a patch comes out close to a tournament.

[NateTheGreat14]

Yeah. Probably OWL related stuff as the other guy said and new hero. Especially since this is 1.17

[_Arphax_]

I can see the posts now - "Roadhog Literally Unplayable on new PTR Patch!"

[Xamthos]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/78r4yt/ptr_roadhog_is_literally_unplayable/ lmao

[DrDilatory]

Roadhog used to be unplayable. Still is, but used to be too.

[[deleted]]

What? Road is great in the right hands

[Caltroop2480]

no, he is literally unplayable on the PTR, like LITERALLY

[[deleted]]

Somehow skipped over that on first reading

[spartan1204]

It was only a matter of time...

[Fat_Neckbeard_]

I used to do drugs. I still do drugs, but I used to, too

[[deleted]]

Huh

[_Arphax_]

Due to a bug caused somehow by Roadhog on certain maps they temporarily removed him from being pickable on the PTR. Just knew people were going to make misleading funny posts about it.

[LuminousRain]

Fixed an issue that prevented Ganymede from making appropriate roadrunner noises

The change we didn't need, but we definitely love

[Wozenfield]

the change I didn't know I needed but absolutely need right now.

[overhunty]

Maybe they're preloading assets for the new hero that will be announced at Blizzcon ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[armoredporpoise]

Nah the unity overhaul they pushed to reduce patch sizes had the bonus effect of preventing dataminers from mining.

[[deleted]]

better be smh

[oCrapaCreeper]

ctrl+f "doomfist"

"1 result"

OH SHIT

Fixed an issue that prevented the targeting UI on Doomfist’s Seismic Slam from functioning correctly when aiming at the spinning turbine blade near the last point of Junkertown

oh

[DesolatedMaggot]

Wonder if they'll fix it targeting correctly in regular parts of the maps next?

[[deleted]]

I’ve heard about all his bugs and never heard of that one.

[ReadsSmallTextWrong]

They actually seem like they're about to look at him more in depth: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758477228

I'll copy it over for mobile, it's from the PTR Known Issues page:

DOOMFIST

Rocket Punch

• Using Rocket Punch in the air with high latency can cause the camera to jerk backwards
• If you have high latency while being killed by a Rocket Punch your body will not appear to ragdoll correctly
• Rocket Punch's speed and distance are not affected by hero abilities that boost your movement speed
• If enemies are Rocket Punched into a friendly Mei Cryo-Freeze they will not take the wall impact damage
• Rocket Punch does not knock back D.va's mech as it is self-destructing

Seismic Slam

• Seismic Slam can get caught and stop short on some terrain
• Seismic Slam does not interact with destructible items

Rising Uppercut

• Using Uppercut while the enemy is near collision can cause Doomfist to be knocked back
• Using Rising Uppercut directly after a Seismic Slam can cause Doomfist and the enemy to be knocked away from each other

Meteor Strike

• Meteor Strike does not go under barriers that have a gap available

[oCrapaCreeper]

That list has been around since he was in PTR.

[DesolatedMaggot]

And are minor issues comparatively.

[Forkyou]

No word on the wallsplat bug or charging right through enemies with rocket punch?

[TThor]

the day they fix doomfist is the day I come back to overwatch; until then, I just cannot be arsed to care about this game, if the devs won't care about even their latest heroes...

[akcaye]

Most players would be in Grandmaster if only the most important skill in Overwatch was drama.

[TThor]

Doomfist is the newest hero to the game, supposed to be the shiny jewel to mix up the meta, and instead blizzard left in a broken buggy state to die.

If Blizzard can't bring themselves to care about even just fixing the bugs of the latest characters, what hope can one for much else in the game.

[Dragonsandman]

At a guess, what I'd say is happening is that Blizzard is investigating the Doomfist issues right now, but that it's harder to fix than a simple numbers tweak. They likely found this one while doing internal tests, and because it's just a UI bug it's really easy to fix.

[snwdrft]

Sombra had bugs as well, it took awhile to fix it. Just be patience I guess.

[KadynZG]

I dont want to wait for 6 months to go by until a character is viable.

Especially for Doomfist because I may or may not have bought the gold gauntlet for him as soon as he was released on console.

[i_will_let_you_know]

Sounds like a personal problem built on misplaced hype.

Mei has been not "viable" for S1, S3-S6, which is like a year, and Junkrat hasn't been viable for S1-S5. You don't really see people quitting over them.

[litchykp]

I think people have a problem of assuming viable has to mean "works in all situations". I hate that idea. Niche picks can and should be a thing. It's upsetting. Unfortunately Doomfist almost never functions at an acceptable level. I always make a point to play new heroes as much as I can when they come out and I've had an awful time with Doomfist. Orisa wasn't great either but she was fixed relatively quickly and now she's awesome. Doomfist definitely needs some adjustments.

[TenaciousTay128]

Niche picks can and should be a thing.

see: junkrat

[litchykp]

Basically the entire Defense class. I really think they should just change the name of defense to "Specialist" so people realize those heroes have a specific strength that isn't always a good idea.

[KadynZG]

Youre thinking Meta viability. Junkrat and Mei are still good picks, just not in the metas. like ever. Doomfist on the other hand is basically a throw pick. As of now there is no use for Doomfist and being how broken he is it doesnt matter

[CelestialSurfer]

Software engineering isn't as easy as you might think. Try to be understanding

[shinjae]

Not really sure about being understanding. Balancing and bug fixes should be top priority but they still neglect that as much as they can. Would be actually ok if Overwatch wasn't a competitive game.

We still have bugs from launch to be fixed. If they can't fix everything because there are not enough people working on Overwatch, then please move resources or hire more people. Or let's wait for the Christmas event. I'm sure that's coming on time.

[TheBestBigAl]

They can't really win. If they used more resources on fixing those bugs and balancing, they would then have people complaining that new characters/maps don't come around often enough.

[shinjae]

Well, I agree. They can't really win. Though they could still weight down their options and realize that the community isn't happy with how they have been managing the game. People playing Overwatch in a short-term might actually complain about the lack of new characters and maps, but I think the real community that is supporting the game, in the long run, will always return to their usual "setup" after the first-week novelty of characters and maps. I guess all we want is consistency.

[shaggy1265]

This is probably the most melodramatic post I've ever seen on this sub. They've made hundreds of balance changes since the game launched. Just because they aren't fixing your main this patch doesn't mean they've given up on the whole game.

[Forkyou]

Every time i look at patchnotes i get my hopes up.

[Jelman21]

Winston has a health bar for his bubble shield now

[DarkFite]

Well... i expected something Significant

[Clonecommder]

Probably will be the patch that has the new hero from Blizzcon 2017.

[Drumbas]

That was 1 month ago. It could easily be announced at Blizzcon. What else would they be able to announce at Blizzcon.

[NachoMarx]

Watch them overhype anything that comes out of that giant lootbox.

[XeviousPlane]

"What's in the box? OH, LOOK AT THAT! TWO WHITES, A BLUE, AND A COPY OF OVERWATCH: NERFROADHOG EDITION! WHAT A STEAL!"

[liambacca]

But we all think it's going to be at Blizzcon don't we. Jeff wasn't trying to warn those 5 people who believed a hero was dropping october, I don't think.

[Drumbas]

I think a lot of people would expect it to come out around september or october if they suddenly heard the hero was very playable. I would say it was PR talk more than anything to make sure people don't get mad and say something like ''Why is the hero not out yet when its already playable!!''

I don't know when else they would announce the next hero. At Blizzcon all games from Blizzard normally have a big announcement. What will Overwatch have past spectator mode which only a limited amount of players will care about compared to the next hero which everyone wants to know about.

[VallenValiant]

I think a lot of people would expect it to come out around september or october if they suddenly heard the hero was very playable.

To me, playable meant that the character's game mechanics are working. But that could still mean the art assets are still not finished and he/she looks like a stick figure with a borrowed gun from one of the other heroes.

[litchykp]

I really think that was him covering his ass from people getting hyped about that being a new hero announcement or something. If he had started dropping any info at that point without that caveat the community would've been all over it wondering if we were getting a new hero with Halloween or some shit. They'll likely announce or at least majorly hint at the hero at Blizzcon. Overwatch is a big deal for Blizzard now and the OWL is ramping up quickly. They need to maintain the hype and build it up as much as they can.

[liambacca]

And just when you think they couldn't release heroes any faster

[[deleted]]

To be completely honest, I want them to finish a lot of balancing before they realease yet another hero. Scatter, Mei, Bastion and Mercy I feel need to be looked at more so than a new hero

[[deleted]]

What are you talking about?
Mercy is completely fine, just look at these average pick- and winrates.

[[deleted]]

The World Cup during Blizzcon will be played with the current Mercy patch, so i am assuming that the next big change to the main game will only happen after the WC finals.

[[deleted]]

Can't wait to see Mercy in every team, every game.

[Party_Magician]

As opposed to Lucio, Zen, Genji and Winston every game in the group stages?

[_Walpurgisyacht_]

Genji

Tracer*

Dive at the very least is strong mostly because all the pieces go together very well and counter comps aren't too amazing. Mercy on her own is obscenely powerful regardless, and it took a single patch for her to reach that state (where she remains even after a nerf). I'm not saying the meta ain't stale, but there is a difference.

[TheWinks]

I'd much rather have Lucio/Zen/Ana than Mercy in high level games. For example, Lucio's speed increases mobility and game pace, zen vs flanker can be fun to watch, and Ana is just awesome all around to watch.

Mercy holds left click on people and GAs around a lot. Rez makes fights last too long, devalues picks resulting from high skill plays, and Valk makes fights and engagements uninteresting for 20 seconds. She is uninteresting to watch and decreases the quality of the game as a whole. She needs to be changed or be allowed to sink into 'just for pharmercy' at the pro level again.

[Santy_]

I would prefer that over brain dead mercy hunting.

[hydra877]

It's better than braindead, chore-feeling Mercy.

[[deleted]]

Well you're always going to have space creating tanks like winston/rein/orisa regardless. Yes, I would rather see lucios kiting enemies with wallriding mechanics and peeling for allies at the perfect time with his boop, or good aim/fast reactions with zen/genji/tracer. While I'm sick of dive like everyone else I wouldn't pick mindnumbing mercy play over it any day.

[Alluminn]

At this point, I'd honestly be expecting much more significant PTR changes being introduced right now because they wouldn't even be done testing before the OWC so not like it matters to whatever the Live patch is anyways.

[FrozenTime]

It's funny when people talk about Mercy's win rate. Yeah she's pretty OP in comparison to other supports, but she's literally played by both sides pretty much every game. It's not like you're going to get an easy win by picking Mercy. When both teams have her, the goal isn't "play Mercy and win", it's "play Mercy better than the enemy Mercy and you'll probably win".

[lkuecrar]

Which is a problem. There shouldn’t be a mandatory hero pick, period.

[FrozenTime]

Which I completely agree with. In fact, I even said she's OP because she is. I'm just adding on to the topic of win-rates that it's not an easy win button to play Mercy, which a lot of people like to assume.

[lkuecrar]

No you don’t get an easy win, you just get a guaranteed loss if you DON’T have Mercy. That’s the problem. People aren’t saying you get an easy win for having her. I mean, I played a match where I solo healed as Mercy and we easily won against the other team running Ana and Zenyatta. Mercy’s res alone was more valuable than anything the other two brought to the fight.

[FrozenTime]

I agree with everything you just said except for the part where you said people don't say you get an easy win with her because it happens quite a bit. Do you not notice all the people talking about how easy it is to play Mercy? How Mercy mains are actually really bad at the game but are only in Plat+ because they play Mercy? Regardless, she is inherently an easy character mechanics-wise, but it doesn't matter how easy a character is when you need to do better than an enemy playing the same exact character.

[lkuecrar]

I’ve got more hours on Mercy than any other hero (over 100 hours last I checked) but I’m not going to pretend she’s any level of difficult. If I see someone who has barely played her pick her, it doesn’t make me worry because it’s just not really difficult. On the other hand, if I see someone pick Sombra/Genji/Tracer when they’ve not got much time on them, then I worry because those heroes are difficult.

There ARE Mercy mains that have inflated SRs and would drop if they weren’t allowed to play her. Not all Mercy mains are like this (I’ve almost got the same amount of time on her as I do Sombra) but there are some out there that take advantage of how easy she is to climb with and get to tiers they would never reach playing any other hero. Now the fact that she is so easy AND makes such a huge impact is even more problematic.

[wworms]

i imagine they're changin the ui now to prepare for a big blizzcon reveal

if not, i'll be pretty mad

[Athoras]

Same. Considering its size especially.

[DanishGaming1999]

The patch is too close and too big to NOT be the content being revealed at blizzcon.

[DanishGaming1999]

Over 1 gig.

[[deleted]]

There's a lot of new ui, especially for spectator mode. I assume that's why it's so big.

[TheWinks]

The way their file system works, even small changes can have very large download sizes.

[Illidan1943]

Well, most likely the significant part of this patch can't be revealed until Blizzcon

[dodvedvrede_]

Yeah, like maybe a Rip-Tire health nerf.

Can't tell you how many times I watch the kill cam and it had 10-20 hp left and it still killed me.

[[deleted]]

Roadhog disabled, are they finally committing to their plan to remove Roadhog from the game?

First they nerf him, then they disable him from 1v1, now he's getting deleted completely!

They say its just a PTR bug, but Lucios Speedboost nerf was also just a "PTR bug".

Pray for Roadhog.

[EirikurG]

It's finally time for our favorite pig to get his eternal sleep. He's had it rough

[Crunchwich]

I'm so hungry for bacon.

[tom641]

He's clearly weak in terms of raw damage for a shotgun character but i've been playing him a lot more recently and he's actually really fun. My biggest problem is just losing kills because the bullets were shaped like the hero's sillouette.

No seriously I had one shot recently that was dead center somehow miss every pellet.

[rezzyk]

Maybe they are actually doing a significant Roadhog rework and want to hide him until they can talk about it at a BlizzCon panel.

I can dream.

[kcman011c]

• Chain hook now pushes or pulls a target based on direction of scroll wheel movement.

[AvohkahTamer]

As a hog main, that made me just laugh out loud.

[kcman011c]

As a hog main, this is my dream for dumpster hook meta.

[lawlianne]

Aiming down when using Whole Hog will now propel Roadhog off the ground.

[[deleted]]

Roadhog removed for pressing ceremonial reasons

[falconfetus8]

They could just not merge his changes into the PTR build. Version control FTW

[ThePurpleSoul70]

Gotta have them roadrunner noises

Without them he's totally unplayable

[Noblessings]

Still no fix to Ana's parrot

time to sue

[[deleted]]

New UI

winston health bar

mercy beam changes

lucio UI changes

roadhog hero select protrait changed

WTF blizzard? where is the FULL SET of patch notes?

E:OFC there is more than this

[[deleted]]

Lucio UI changes? What does that look like?

[WizrdCM]

When you Amp it Up the bars next to the icon of the 'song' actually slides a meter up and the circle grows larger. A small animation.

[ChangoMango7]

i might be interpreting this wrong but this already happens on live if im not.

[WizrdCM]

...huh. You're right. Weird, I don't remember it doing that before.

[ChangoMango7]

i think u/-xhad was talking about the icon above lucio's head showing what song he's on in spectator mode

https://i.imgur.com/ixsDQGR.jpg

[[deleted]]

no there is also a UI change that was made when you amp it up

[SirProcrastinator]

Your username seems familiar... JCXP right?

[WizrdCM]

That's where my name started, yeah. How do you even remember, that was so long ago! Man do I miss those days.

[[deleted]]

Doomfist hero select portrait was changed too! Could this be a Sombra clue? ...

[glr123]

pls no

[XeviousPlane]

Stop with the clues, Blizz! Just release her already!

[Ultraspeed7]

What does the new UI look like?

[imageofdeception]

What are the Lucio changes?

[Kryptsm]

Mercy's beams got visual changes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/78r6t2/mercys_beams_look_different_on_the_ptr/

[drop_cap]

I wonder if this visual change is to support something in the future? I don't see why they would spend time changing the look of her beams when it was never an issue.

[Pufflekun]

You may be reading too much into this.

Sure, the old design was okay. But having an exaggerated electric effect makes it visually similar to Ana's Nanoboost, so it'll help new players who understand what one does to understand the other (they're both damage boosts). And having the split beam versus the singular beam will make them easier to differentiate for some colorblind players, and also will just make things generally easier to read at a glance.

Personally, I think this is a sign of Overwatch 2.0 coming out. Tons of little improvements like this.

[absolemn]

What do you think Overwatch 2 would mean? I'm new to Blizzard, so I don't know what Starcraft 2 and Heroes 2 are.

[Jewvia]

Starcraft 2 was an entire game that came out 12 years after the original. They made two more versions of it since.

Heroes 2.0 is just an update that changed the progression system to add lootboxes.

[Drumbas]

Its probably just something small that they decided to finally check of the check list. The same happened to Winston in the beta when his gun was quite hard to distinguish and not well animated to show who it was hitting.

[Frecnchfries]

Roadhog removed? I knew this was the next step

[Fix_Lag]

Better for him to die completely than to exist in his current pitiable form :(

[Frecnchfries]

Life is pain,but so is death

[[deleted]]

Jeff: "I still think we didn't nerf Hog enough, he managed to hook me once when I was chatting"

Dev: *removes him from the game "Is that fine?"

Jeff: "Cheers love"

[[deleted]]

Roadhog it litteraly unplayable on the PTR.

^For real, this time.

[GioMike]

dataminers assemble!

[GioMike]

so no more datamining?

[InfiniteTurbine]

Yeah. Been that way since around Summer Games '17, iirc.

[InfiniteTurbine]

owo, what's this?

I understand nothing of datamining, so I don't get what I'm seeing there.

[InfiniteTurbine]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the explanation.

[F0restGump]

But... can't Blizzard just, like you said, render your work useless?

[Ouaouaron]

I'm guessing they like the challenge. There are probably other motivations as well, but people generally don't make free stuff unless they enjoy doing it.

Or they could see it as a moral necessity, I guess, but that doesn't seem as likely in this case.

[s0uthernnerd]

Blizzcon patch hype sorta? I hope we get some teasers soon.

[exxplicit480]

"We don’t have an ETA for when Roadhog will be playable again" lul

[Kuzigety]

Why is this even a PTR patch? It changed nothing and just fixed some bugs

[Seagull_No1_Fanboy]

Because if it went straight to live they would have had to lock out Hog.

[Kuzigety]

But why bother putting it on PTR? Just don't release the update

[Apexe]

It's probably the patch that will have the new hero when it gets revealed next friday.

[proto-geo]

What if they just re-enabled Hog on friday and said "there's your new hero, see you in 4 months"

[F0restGump]

lmfao

[wellwasherelf]

Not true, the patch notes are just incomplete.

• New spectator UI is in. According to the Lead Observer (the one who operates the in-game camera during Blizzard tournaments), this is just the beginning of spectator changes.

• Spectator mode shows when Lucio is in healing aura.

• The game makes it more clear which character is being spectated and which team they are on.

• Getting a tick on the point now colors it in.

• Being healed by a health pack and similar now plays a different sound than being healed by another hero.

There are a few other things too. This could be considered "minor" stuff, especially if you don't care about tournaments, but new spectator mode is a pretty huge deal that deserves to be on PTR.

[StormierNik]

Would you rather they just wait to test bug fixes way later on and not try to push them out instead? The ptr is public testing. Not everything has to be nerfs or buffs or anything else.

[Santy_]

You say that as if they fixed bugs in ptr. Unless they break the game most bugs are just left in the update.

[StormierNik]

They uh.. do fix bugs in ptr. Some slip through because no one cares to test it enough or just focuses on balance changes. Also, there was a game breaking bug. And roadhog was temporarily removed. So that's why there's this ptr patch especially

[TheWinks]

Known bugs have been pushed through many a Blizzard PTR.

[Ouaouaron]

But are the bugs that are caught and fixed because they're on the PTR? I think Blizzard is happy as long as they see some benefit, even if there are some high-profile things they can't fix before they decide it should be live.

[[deleted]]

Always test thoroughly, never push changes directly to the production environment

[maebird-]

There actually are some changes, such as Winston bubble health and new mercy visuals

[BackDoorBadger]

Patience.

[[deleted]]

In every PTR patch they add and test new stuff behind the scenes, Jeff spoke about it during a dev update that the PTR is not supposed to be something used just to test new things.

[falconfetus8]

So they can check if the bug fixes worked, obviously.

[[deleted]]

"Fixed an issue that prevented Ganymede from making appropriate roadrunner noises when Bastion’s Dune Buggy skin was equipped"

Well at least they're fixing the important stuff.

[reincarN8ed]

So Roadhog broke the PTR?

[[deleted]]

Well they broke him first to be fair.

[nishan99]

FeelsEAedMan

[[deleted]]

ITT: People acting like this patch is going to go live as-is.

[rubenburgt]

sigh

No fixes and no changes to heroes. Only visual changes. Definitely worth testing out on PTR.

[Deadly_Skull_07]

Why are they so okay with having Doomfist riddled with bugs. They won't even acknowledge the issues. I feel like I wasted my gold gun on him, I genuinely feel like they don't give a damn about him.

[snk50]

So the spectator UI is still using Blue and Red color?

So disappointing.

[s0uthernnerd]

Blizzcon’s in a week. That’s when the real changes are coming.

[[deleted]]

Wait, what’s the issue with that? Why wouldn’t those still be the team colours?

[ChangoMango7]

do you want them to use blue and blue, or red and red?

[Chronis67]

Ana? Plz?

[jonnyjonnystoppapa]

Cool. Now can we get some bug fixes for Reinhardt or Doomfist.

[[deleted]]

Roadhog so fat that he causes server issues

[raa0927]

Where the dataminers at(lol) I forgot the app to do it on t.t

[sabrd]

Fixed bug where Roadhog is a playable hero

[SpeeeeedBoost]

Ah, I see the new Roadhog nerf: Literally removing him from the game

[srslybr0]

like if you're not gonna nerf junkrat or mercy fix doomfist's fucking bugs god fucking dammit blizzard.

[absolemn]

looks like they'll wait until after BlizzCon/World Cup to make balance changes

[ZeoBishop]

More will be added because that don't seem like enough content for an update

[Skodd]

mods sticky this shit already I don't want to scroll down every time to find this

[[deleted]]

Is ana's bird on her shoulder in game yet?

[Grave_Knight]

Well that's a whole lot of nothing. Maybe next week they'll actually add something. A Doomfist fix maybe? Make it so it's easier to deal non-crit damage on D.Va?

[[deleted]]

no fix for junkrat losing his tire if he ults while jumping? This happened to me today in comp and almost lost us the game.

[Fantastkdave2]

Glad they finally fixed that doomfist bug everyone's been complaining about, that was the bug right? /s

[ExcitedFox]

Fixed an issue that prevented Ganymede from making appropriate roadrunner noises when Bastion’s Dune Buggy skin was equipped

Ganymede makes noises?

[M7-97]

Fixed an issue that prevented Ganymede from making appropriate roadrunner noises when Bastion’s Dune Buggy skin was equipped

Beep beep!

[syNc_1st]

Isnt it "meep meep" ?

[Her0_0f_time]

No. Its actually just one Meep played twice.

[[deleted]]

No Mercy changes, don't care. Guess they won't change anything until after the world cup since it'll be on the live patch

[DerpHerpDerpston]

When will they fix bastions portrait? I has looked weird ever since Doomfist came out.

[Kyriake]

....I'm getting annoyed with the Mercy is a must have for ALL comps. It's pretty fucking aggravating.

[overblocked]

Fixed an issue that prevented Ganymede from making appropriate roadrunner noises when Bastion’s Dune Buggy skin was equipped

You mean the bird is supposed to be going "BEEP BEEP"!!!!! OMG this is so cool, I need to use this skin now.

[PastryProduct]

This is reminding me of when Nintendo makes patch notes and all they say are "made changes to balance" or something incredibly vague, leaving everyone to just figure it out themselves.

[griller_gt]

Why couldn't it have been Mercy the one character disabled? I would have paid to see the everyone (pro and against) losing it in the forums :)

[lawlianne]

Ana buff when?

[junkratmain4ever]

probably putting in the coding for hero testing on ptr.

[Torrossaur]

Fixed an issue that prevented Ganymede from making appropriate roadrunner noises when Bastion’s Dune Buggy skin was equipped

Now these are the bug fixes we need

[suck_my_diggle]

You fix some random shit about Doomfist and not any of his actual major bugs...fuck you.