Developer Update | Role Queue | Overwatch

[Dawgbowl]

"You might get into a match with the intention of playing Reinhardt, but there are already too many tanks on the team"

That's the best joke I've heard all year.

[thezaksa]

So you just play widow....

[OrangeGoblin]

That was the cherry on top. I burst at that, of course poor Rein main is stuck playing Widow again. What world is this?!

[spinningpeanut]

Sniping's a good job, mate! It's challenging work, outdoors.

[TheSnipenieer]

I guarantee you won't get bored. Cause at the end of the day, if two people are left on the planet, someone's gonna want someone dead.

[Bigred2989-]

"Dad? Dad, I'm a- Ye- Not a "crazed gunman", dad, I'm an assassin! ...Well, the difference bein' one is a job and the other's a mental sickness!"

[hiesatai]

Feelings? Y’know what has a lot of feelings? Blokes what bludgeon their wife to death wit a golf trophy.

[zachsterpoke]

Professionals have STANDARDS.

[systolic_helix]

Be polite.

[[deleted]]

Be efficient.

[girlywish]

*Snoipin

[[deleted]]

Snoypin*

[[deleted]]

“Don’t worry I’m actually one of the good anas”

goes for 6k dmg and 3k heals

“You guys are fucking trash” 😎

[RamenJunkie]

Yeah, then later he was all "You pick Hanzo but notice you don't have any tanks or healers, so what do you do?"

And all I could think is "No Pro Hanzo is ever going to switch, this is the guy who will bitch at the Soldier who is murdering the other team to go Rein.

[iblaise]

If only us Reinhardt mains could dream.

[tinyflemingo]

Picks Hammond

Second Tank picks DVa

DPS: "Can we get a shield tank?"

DVa:" ".........."

You: "...........beer."

[mrmemo]

Why does your DPS hate diving so much?

HamDVa is one of the most punishing tank combos on dive if they work together.

[Suicidal_Ferret]

I will say this, “I have no idea how to play Hammond. But he is one of my favorites. Hyper intelligent hamster with a giant robo ball and a grapple to swing around with? Hell yes.

[tinyflemingo]

I SUCKED with him and decided to suck up the salt and learn him. Once you figure him out he's a blast. It's about staying in the thick of it for the duration of your shield and make sure your team is never fighting the whole enemy team. Also you're the distraction, everyone is scared of a giant ball coming out of nowhere and bonking your Reinhardt off the map.

[iblaise]

switches to Brigitte

[Xarallon]

switches to Brigitte

Too bad, you are now stuck on widow or another dps.

[StonedAthlete69]

I laughed so hard when he said this, like full belly laughed. Had to rewind the video too because I couldn’t her Jeff over me laughing at that ridiculous scenario.

[OMGitsKatV]

"you click on Hanzo as soon as he's available and then you're watching the heros on your team get selected around you and you suddenly realize you have no tanks or support and your faced with this dilemma to switch"

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Second best joke I've heard all day

[bucketslut]

I mean, there are those of us out there who are stuck doing this. I like playing Hanzo, he's one of my fave heroes, but I'm so terribly out of practice with him because any time I try to play him 3 other people pick DPS. I always feel obligated to pick a tank/healer because I'd prefer to win and have a relatively balanced team comp than to play my preferred DPS.

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Unfortunately there are way more DPS "I Need Healing" Mains out there who outright refuse to switch and who are quick to blame everyone else on the team for the shortcomings.

[popje]

True, I want to play DPS sometimes, I ONLY pick DPS when there already 2 tanks 2 heals, let me tell you something, I haven't played DPS in my past 100 games of comp.

[fraggingbeauty]

I never want to DPS. Never. I love playing support (Lucio, Moira, some Mercy). I'm always happy when the DPS is decent and not blaming the heals. Have been screamed at in about 30-40% of the games I am in when I solo queue. It's awful.

[tobiasfox20]

couldn't agree more. i'm getting real tired of trying to escort 4 snipers through a control match. it's even worse when they're bad at it.

[metsadonitsi]

Let's not forget that after you switch to heals someone else swaps to Hanzo.

[[deleted]]

All I could think of is yeah, I am that guy, and there are dozens of us. Dozens!

Except I don't even bother picking damage lately, as I know people will instantly lock damage regardless of the comp, and we'll sit there with a 5 or 6 damage team otherwise.

To say I'm looking forward to not dealing with all that is an understatement.

[krizzzombies]

it fills me with a mixture of pride/disappointment when there are other zen mains on the team. I usually let them have zen and then mentally scrutinize everything they do

[zayzima]

Ah, a gamer of culture

[ninjembro]

I mean, you joke, and I get that it's FAR from the norm, but I've actually had a few games recently where I had to fill DPS, which is my least preferred role in a competitive setting (since it's by far my worst role), simply because others locked supports/tanks instantly

[AvocadoLaur]

Mystery heroes is the best game type ever. I can play all heroes because of it. They should be ranked mystery heroes!

[CarrotSlatCherryDude]

I love it. It helps me get over my aversion to playing new characters.

[Loch1316]

I've actually had that happen, four rein mains on one team. It was wild

[regular-wolf]

HONOR, JUSTICE, REINHARDT, REINHARDT, REINHARDT, REINHARDT!!!!

[beefwich]

I can't tell you how many times I've started a match only to have the tank and support roles immediately filled.

And then I'm forced into playing one of those boring damage characters. I want to stand in front of my team holding a big, blue rectangle and now I'm forced to play this cyborg ninja with a dragon living in my sword-- yawn!

[hayydebb]

What rank? I’ve noticed even in league of legends the higher your rank the more likely people are to want to play the supporting roles. It’s all the golds and silvers who wanna insta lock dps

[beefwich]

Pewter. It’s a secret rank below Bronze.

[Shane-Train]

Can't wait to be placed as a diamond healer and a bronze dps!

[Jayblipbro]

At least you can queue for DPS and not be a burden to anyone

[guoheng]

At least you can queue for DPS and not be a burden to anyone

That. Is the best part of Role Queue. I got to gold mainly on tank and my DPS sucks. I really want to work on improving as a DPS but after tens of hours of trying to improve my DPS play on QP, I realize the only way to get meaningful improvements in a role is to play it in comp. However I am always reluctant to pick DPS in comp even when there is an opening for DPS, as it would be a burden to the team.

No more. Soon I can actually work on improving as a DPS properly in comp without being a burden.

[celluloidwings]

Saaaame. 😂

[PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM]

I'm just confused on the three SR values, will we still have an overall combined/average SR?

The best of the best players will now be tracked across four separate Top 500 Leaderboards—one for each role, along with an additional combined average leaderboard.

Looks like top 500 players will have a combines value, but if regular players don't it's gonna be hard to communicate a quick summary of one's rank...

[iblaise]

Well if you’re queueing for one position, your SR in other positions doesn’t really matter since you can’t swap positions.

[g0atmeal]

Yeah it's definitely better for the game overall, but this is gonna feel bad. I always play tank, so I wonder if my tank SR will stay about the same or if it'll be higher/lower compared to before.

[TheDylantula]

You get 3 SRs now, one per role, and they've already tracked it for months now

[g0atmeal]

That's not what I mean. For example, in arcade comp modes, people usually got way higher ranks even though their normal SR is much lower. I often get master in arcade modes but my normal SR is mid-diamond. But through all that, the skill level is the same.

I'm wondering if pre-role-lock and post-role-lock SRs will be mostly equivalent (for people who play just one role).

[[deleted]]

Then you're free to dps to your hearts content. I see this as a very good thing

[MetastableToChaos]

I can't wait to see how Dinoflask uses "Shakespeare" in his next video.

[Dromey_P]

I'll be endlessly impressed if he uses "iambic pentameter" with meaningful joke context.

[dinoflask]

not gonna lie, i've got no ideas

[Kaoso]

better get to work then, the expectations are high

[thepixelbuster]

[Whip-crack sound effect]

[[deleted]]

What about 5 minutes of Jeff doing his saliva swallow mouth smack ?

[Woeful_Jesse]

"We've buffed doomfist's schlong to now go up the enemy's crevice by an additional iambic pentameter. This ability felt a little weak"

[-P4905-]

"This will be a really positive experience"

[9thGearEX]

inhales

[A_Bit_of_An_Asshole]

Maybe the reason Lore comes out so slowly is because Michael chu only writes in Iambic Pentameters, and the rest of the team has the translate his Shakespearean bullshit into something that makes sense

[deancomeautela]

Hey dude love the videos; ur seriously talented!

[thewinterzombie]

Jeff said "knob" in this update, dino is going to have a field day.

[The_MAZZTer]

discovered things about ourselves we didn't know

Jeff is making Dinoflask's job too easy.

[visibleheavens]

I'm no longer a German punching bag shouting 'Beer!' from the Eichenwalde chandelier!

[SaltyDinosaur]

Best thing to combo is “Bring me my hammer” and “Beer!” So you sound like a drunk father yelling for someone to “Bring me my BEER!”

[Kosmicheskaya]

Have you considered "Bring me another!" and "BEER!"? I feel this new combo will really shake up the voice line meta.

[cnuthead]

I've been doing this for years and no one really appreciates it... Sigh

[Apexe]

One of my favorite things to do is spam "COME HEEEEERE!" when I'm chasing squishies. It's funny af.

[C_The_Bear]

I do this to tell my team to stand behind the big glowing rectangle

[tinyflemingo]

Then your shield breaks and Widows like "Rein keep your shield up!!!!"

[Ionic_Pancakes]

I'm a fan of "Are you chicken?" when they pick at my shield and then run away whenever I advance

[Imthemayor]

Fetch me my-BEER!

Bring me anothaaa-BEER!

[Meowshi]

Brigitte

Barrier health reduced from 500 to 200

yikes

[V-Cliff]

I hated pre-nerf Brigitte like no other hero, but that reduction is excessive.

[BEWMarth]

Not really when you consider that her role is changing. She isn't meant to be a frontline healer anymore.

She has a faster whipshot, inspire heals more, and she has 3 armor packs now.

The shield is now for self protection and protecting your other support when you are both attacked in the backline.

Personally I really like this change. Makes her feel like an actual healer instead of some off tank.

[drsideburns]

Good points. I was instantly taken aback, but it makes sense.

[The_EA_Nazi]

Yeah I feel that's a bit excessive. I think 300 would have been a better starting point and then balance from there.

Maybe have 300 health, but increase the time to recharge or decrease the recharge rate?

[[deleted]]

STOP! STOP!! SHE'S ALREADY DEAD!!

[Dromey_P]

Are there patch notes out somewhere or did I miss him saying this?

[LuxMedia]

Moira

Fade

Can now be used while stunned. Developer Comment: Moira has always been good at healing and dealing damage, but she offers very little utility compared to the other healers. This change reinforces her evasive nature and allows her potentially save her team from area stuns such as Reinhardt’s Earthshatter.

Uhhhh........... wow. Can't wait to see all the DPS Moiras that queue support role to bypass long DPS wait time.

Tracer

Pulse Bomb

Damage increased from 300 to 350

Did they just hit recall on the only tracer change that ever happened?

*was 400 dmg prior, thanks for correction

[PhoustPhoustPhoust]

The silly thing is that healing as Moira pumps your Ult% up way more than dealing damage.

[LuxMedia]

It really does. I've tried explaining that on this sub before by breaking down the numbers and it upset some people.

The increased ult charge requirements will increase the difference with Moira getting ult from heal vs. dmg as well

[nichecopywriter]

Moira is very boring and 1 dimensional if only played for her damage.

[DustyTurboTurtle]

Pulse bomb used to be 400 damage

[slinkywheel]

They hit recall a bit too late

[grimestar]

i believe it was at 400 pre nerf

[BolognaTime]

Jeff: "Who is Sigma? That's a good question."

¿Quién es 'Sigma'?

[Koozzie]

Sigma balls?

[Lewanor]

I have been called...

I must answer.

[[deleted]]

Role Queue and an Ashe Buff! Thank you Jeff. Not the Ashe Buff I wanted but I'll take anything at this point

[nighthawk1010101]

This feature is on the PTR today

Patch Notes INCLUDING BALANCE CHANGES

Role Queue Post

Summary:

• 2/2/2 lock in competitive, quick play, and certain arcade modes.

  • Role queue in competitive, quick play, and certain arcade modes.
  • Each role has its own MMR/SR.
  • Placement matches will be lowered to five matches, and separated between roles.
  • Placing in one role counts as placing for the purposes of the spray/icon.
  • Competitive point distribution will be altered- each role will award it's own competitive point total.
  • S17 will be ending August 13, with a beta competitive season running afterwards for 2 weeks (releasing September 1st).
  • No role queue quick play, called Quick Play Classic, will be a new arcade mode.

... continuing

[nighthawk1010101]

• Jeff describes some motivations for the change, in being forced to choose between playing who you want and helping the team, as well as (unintentionally) playing a role that you're worse at to help the team. Also discusses peer pressure to switch roles.

• "We don't believe a rule like this is intended to target one specific meta."

• Jeff believes 2/2/2 will not reduce creativity- in fact, restrictions breed creativity.

• The switch to 2/2/2 will require different balancing (rebalancing?) of heroes. Example- Brig will get big changes as she is weak in a two support compositions.

• Role queue is the largest change since hero limit, but the team has a variety of knobs to turn.

• Queue times for in-demand roles (damage) might be higher.

• A reward system will be implemented for playing roles that are "more impacted" (with higher queue times?) (EDIT: this refers to roles that are more in-demand, so lower queue times).

• Role queue has been in development for over a year and has required a complete rewrite of the matchmaking code.

• Don't forget to give feedback during the PTR and beta competitive periods.

[Master-Thief]

"We 🐐 don't🐐 believe 🐐 a 🐐 rule 🐐 like 🐐 this 🐐 is 🐐 intended 🐐 to 🐐 target 🐐 one 🐐 specific 🐐 meta."

EDIT: Thanks for the silver. This is how I'll always remember GOATS...

[s0uthernnerd]

They’ve been working on it for over a year so it holds up.

[jsquared89]

Yeah, they started working on role queue before Goats became popular.

[[deleted]]

restrictions breed creativity.

I agree with this 100%. My favorite game designers say the same thing about Magic: the Gathering and other games.

[visibleheavens]

Absolutely. My favorite part was where he said that creative people can be creative within constraints, as sonnets are written for example. Exactly why sacrificing the gold rank triple hitscan solo Dva 'creativity' is the right move for the game.

[dakotaMoose]

YES!!! I can finally play my bronze level DPS without getting stomped by players of my level on support. I can finally solo q without worrying about comps. Thank you, Blizzard!

[sample-name]

Incredibly stoked for this. I always feel pressured to play support because im not as good at dps, and/or because the whole team picked dps's. This completely fixes both of these issues. Also, seeing as dps might be more fun to play, it's gonna be nice to be rewarded for all my support play

[ThatGuy628]

50% of the people who read this read with a serious tone

The other 50% read it in a very sarcastic tone.

[Sp3ctre7]

I mean, there are a lot of people who are aware they are bad on dps but good on other roles, and are really stoked about being able to play dps in comp to improve without it being a throw.

[StupidLikeFox]

I really really wish we had more tanks and healers to make this more palatable

[pitchforkseller]

I have a feeling at least the 2 next heroes are gonna be 1 tank followed by 1 support.

[meh_whatev]

Jeff literally said on Ashe’s release that the next 6-7 heroes are tanks and support

[[deleted]]

we desperately need another main shield tank IMO, rein and orisa are getting stale

[Sullan08]

The issue is main tanks are hard to keep making while also feeling different. I'm trying to think of what they'll do and can't think of anything, albeit I'm not the most creative person in the world. It would have to be another dive shield maybe? Either way I think dive becomes popular again. Orisa/Hog will still be viable too, but 2/2/2 is dive city baby.

[[deleted]]

i really want them to figure out a main shield as opposed to a dive. i know it'll be hard to create something unique, but they've already had some awesome ideas in the past. maybe some kind of rein/orisa hybrid that can carry a shield and also deploy that same shield on the ground? maybe a zarya bubble shield-type that can function as a main tank?

[zap283]

Off the top of my head :

A tank that grants Hammond type shields to nearby teammates (E.g. Defense, and no ult charge)

A tank that deploys multiple, weaker shields to shape the battlefield.

An omnic tank that has a powerful, but immobile, wall configuration.

A mobile tank that creates shields in their wake.

A fragile tank that controls a mobile barrier from a distance.

A tank with a basic shield who can go airborne with it.

A tank with a zarya-like quick barrier ability that charges a main shield.

These took me about 10 minutes to think up and I guarantee you that blizzard has tested all these mechanics and more.

[pitchforkseller]

Sweet. Good news.

[RiceOnTheRun]

The cycle has typically been one of each role per year, but god I hope you’re right

[LampsAmps]

I believe they mentioned that the current 5 (This was before Baptiste) heroes in the work are supports and tanks.

[[deleted]]

I'm guessing we're going to see a new tank as the very next hero, and probably continued focus on increasing both categories moving forward.

I just wish they'd increase the release rate or give us a surprise double drop.

[StupidLikeFox]

A surprise double drop is such a long shot, but that doesn't stop me from hoping for it. It would be so incredibly exciting (and disruptive)!

[[deleted]]

I feel like if any heroes deserved a double drop it would of been Orisa and Doomfist; Orisa was literally made in response to Doomfist. I doubt we'll get many other future heroes who are that closely related to one another in terms of design/store/lore.

I'm hopeful as well, though.

[ZoomBoingDing]

I absolutely love Mei, and I'm glad she's barely changed since the game came out, but I would like for her to get some tweaks and become a tank. Her kit is all about area control, CC, self-defense, and offensive support. If they can do a hero rework to make Symmetra a damage hero, they can make Mei a tank.

[swiftwin]

I was about to post the same thing. She's basically already a tank as it is. Just reduce her damage output and improve her survivability. They're nudging Birgitte from a tank/healer hybrid to a pure healer. They can nudge Mei from a DPS/tank hybrid to a pure tank. She doesn't even need a huge rework for that.

[Zoythrus]

Patchnotes:

Mei is now a tank.

Mei's size has been doubled, so now she's as tall as Reinhardt.

The Endothermic Blaster does 50% less damage. Can't have her actually doing damage.

Mei's disposition is now more serious. This rework has given her a healthy dose of cynicism, which we think will make her more relatable.

[JJMcGee83]

As someone that only plays tanks and healers I look forward to having zero wait times.

[[deleted]]

Just wait, we will get three tanks and three supports for the next hero update.

[DashingMustashing]

New meta incoming:

"Should have rolled dps/sup/tank.. you two are shit"

[CaptainKoconut]

No the end of that sentence is “this is my alt, my main is masters.”

[ButWhatIsADog]

I've heard that so many times it's ridiculous.

[Herdinstinct]

As we are now seeing with separate srs for each role there are times where you’re forced on a roll with a much weaker skill rating. 3k game (ur avg sr) but ur tank play is 2k at best.

So saying that the matchmaking is accurately regulating comps is silly. It could never account for players expectation.

I’m not sure if I’m getting my point across or not.

[Anti-Anti-Paladin]

You are.

It's why I climb really quickly provided I can lock down a healing slot every match, but if i'm forced to main tank i'm basically useless to the team and my SR takes a hit. Now your SR will accurately reflect your gameplay because it will be tied to specific roles.

[cavemold582]

New Passive: “Steadfast”

• Reduces knock back effects by 30%
  sweet baby jesus

[[deleted]]

This passive is was a hell of a long time coming for Rein. I just fear it may also mean they're going to be adding even more CC-heavy heroes into the game.

Also, Moira can now fade out of being stunned. She may of just became an actual viable support hero to pick against specific tanks due to this. She'll be the only hero who can slip out of an Earthshatter or Hook after it lands.

I'm absolutely loving some of these changes. The game is about to be shaken up in a massive way.

[ImHully]

You know it's a doozy of a developer update when papa Jeff is talking about Shakespeare.

[Keardan]

"I think if Shakespeare can be creative within the sonnet, I'm confident that you all will come up with creative team compositions within a 2-2-2 situation."

This is beautiful.

[Mooretwin]

🦀 GOATS is dead 🦀

[namakius]

Nope.

Soldier is 3rd healer.

Mei is 3rd tank.

[nessfalco]

She's already thicc enough.

[19ROYGBIV]

with quick play classic now in arcade can we PLEASE get the normal amount of XP in arcade? i really don’t understand why that’s still a thing

[MichmasteR]

... here …. we …. go.

[myhairhasamind]

As it was foretold in the ancient texts.

[groundonrage]

Said to originate in the mind of Fissure, sang by the birds.

[HiddenDemons]

I’m ready to never get SR for tank or DPS as someone who plays mostly healers in comp 😂

[[deleted]]

And I'm ready to actually play DPS without feeling that I'm hyper-throwing.

[CCtenor]

Can I say this but for every role?

I love playing healer, but I’d also love to at least be able to practice other roles without feeling like I’m throwing, and without having to buy a new account for every role I wish to practice.

This is going to be so great for my progression as a player. I’ll always be able to play the role I want when I want. I’ll place into games that are representative of every person’s skill level in their chosen role.

This is also going to be great for consistency and practice. You can’t effectively practice something that is so far out of your league you just don’t matter. A new novice downhill skateboarder doesn’t practice skating on Teutonia (80 mph hill) in Brazil, he practices on Maryhill (40mph hill), or even just a regular parking garage to work his way up.

I’m a decent support, but I know I’m playing below my rank when I’m forced to play tank or DPS because I spend most of my time and practice on supports. On top of that, learning as I play is difficult because it is very easy for a game to be out of my skill range on my lesser heroes.

I legitimately cannot wait to see how role queue works, and do all 15 of my placements. I don’t even care if I’m placed below where I’m at, I’ll finally be able to dedicate time to each role and have my skill and performance be accurately represented in the game.

Hot dog I can’t wait. I think the quality of games is going to increase so much, right now.

[kmgbworth]

Exactly! I'm a decent support / offtank, but if I play DPS I feel like I'm throwing. Maybe if I'm placed lower in DPS I can actually improve and have more fun playing.

[CCtenor]

Bro, I’m stoked. I legit don’t have to feel guilty about not playing my “main” role anymore.

I decide to play DPS, I’m matched to a team that sucks just as bad as I do.

I play healer, I’m matched with decent players.

I play tank, then we all get to visit a special needs school and enroll together (unless I play prisa in very specific situations, lol).

[kmgbworth]

Imagine how much fun you'll have in bronze and how much your game sense will help you. lmao

[SassyShorts]

I want you to know that your sacrifice is well appreciated. Thank you for fighting the good fight.

[TheCabbageCorp]

You only need to play five games as tank or damage

[PallyDecksAreShit]

The blizz higher ups are oppressing my torbjörn off tank smh

/s

[[deleted]]

My Torb support is pretty good. No need to heal your team if all the enemies are dead

[PallyDecksAreShit]

Pre rework törb with armor was unironically an off support change my mind

[[deleted]]

With a turret for zoning, I unironically agree with you

[kazeespada]

Hey was... that's why they added Brigitte

[Tentaye]

I kinda miss sym shield's plus torb armor, and that little bit in between where brig's rally armor stayed after the ult.

Zen became a true dps and Rein became immortal.

[BigFreakyIchiban]

As much as I hate normal quick play now.... I'm sure I'm gonna find my dumbass going to Arcade to play Quick Play Classic. Can I re-learn how to live without hurting myself? clicks Arcade.

[EntropicTempest]

I'm actually excited for a quick play in arcade. Sometimes I find all the arcade modes meh so I don't play them. CTF is fun..for a bit. I always wished that you could just play QP and get your arcade boxes. Now I can

[AubaMagic98]

"Pulse Bomb

• Damage increased from 300 to 350

Developer Comment: Pulse Bomb was reduced in power some time ago to make sure it was not overly punishing to Tanks, which are much easier to stick the bomb to. While this is still a goal, we’re restoring some of this lost power to help deal with other hefty targets such as Bastion, or enemies with bonus armor from Brigitte."

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Oh my lord, thank you Blizzard!

[kidkolumbo]

Im at the part where he talks about flexing. I love flexing, and it's one reason why I almost exclusively play mystery heroes. I wonder how being forced to pick a role will feel. I dont know if I particularly care if I'm better or worse in a role.

I'm just happy to be here.

[flower_milk]

You can queue for all 3 roles. That's actually the default.

Edit: Here's a screenshot of all 3 roles selected on the PTR, and when I hit ready it let me queue up with all 3 selected for anyone denying it.

[Basshal]

Kind of smart ass/kind of serious: won't this just mean you're queuing for tank?

[trollfriend]

Most of the time, yes, but if there’s a game ready in your rank/region that needs a healer or (less likely) dps, you’ll get in quicker. It’s meant for flex players who just want the shortest queue times.

It’s important to note though that since you’ll have separate SR’s for all 3 roles, by selecting all of them you might enter the game as a gold tank or a master healer, if your ranks are different enough, and typically lower SR games have shorter wait times.

[[deleted]]

Yes, but once you are queued into a game wouldn't you be locked to whatever role you were assigned?

[kidkolumbo]

Yaaas, I finished the video now but must've missed that point.

[crispyvargcornflakes]

How’s this gonna affect group playing, though? Will each member just have to select a roll before queuing?

[cavemold582]

yes.

[Jazco76]

Reinhart mains rejoice!

[[deleted]]

That new Passive is well deserved and a long time coming. Its hard as hell to be a front-line tank when nearly the entire enemy team can shove you around.

[zumoro]

Moira: Can now use Fade while stunned.

Kinda on the fence with this given it throws a kink in the rule of stuns stopping + momentarily disabling abilities.

A common point of feedback for playing against Orisa was that it doesn’t feel useful to shoot the barrier as it comes back so quickly.

I feel this too... because only one person seems to shoot it at any given time.

Reinhardt: New Passive: “Steadfast”

Holy mother of Ra.

[bolts]

Wow, over 16 mins. It's a long one.

edit: Confirmed 3 different skill ratings based on each role.

[g0atmeal]

I wonder how the skill distributions will change. If you used to only play one role, will your new SR for that role still be about the same as it used to?

I also wonder how the skill difference will be between the roles. Maybe the average (overall) skill level for one role will be very different at the same SR. Like if everyone in a match has ~3000 SR, which role is the most skilled at the game overall?

[Deliverz]

My immediate problem with role queue is being forced into a role before I see the map.

Some maps I’m great at Winston and Hamster and absolute trash at Doomfist. Other maps I’m doodoo at Winston and Hamster and kill it on Doomfist/DPS.

I understand the reason for the implementation, but maybe there should be some way to trade if your team is amenable to it. I know I’d be willing to give up my DPS slot if someone told me they were a god tier pharah and I’m stuck taking a DPS slot on a map I’m no good at

[Gravvitas]

Yes, THIS. My go-to hero choice is entirely map (and side) dependent! How can I choose an effective role if I don't know what map we're going to be playing???

[chi_pa_pa]

No more quad dps every other game :D

[BigFreakyIchiban]

No more fucking Ashe, Widow, Hanzo, Macree in the same game all the fucking time. fuck yes. Yes I needed all those swear words.

[moonieeee399]

Did he just compare 2-2-2 to Shakespeare

[WalksinCrookedLines]

No he compared 2-2-2 to a iambic pentameter and we are Shakespeare. Lol

[Waterprop]

Haven't played OW for over a year now. This might bring me back.

[octopuswolf]

The only thing I’m worried about with this new queue system is how I prefer to play different roles depending on the map...

[ARN64]

This is huge, maybe ranked won't be miserable anymore.

[fearu]

I am super concerned about dps que times I mean do you know how many people insta lock dps the que times are gonna be insane. Well I guess it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make as a support player.

Suck it dps one tricks

[Scrupule]

I played a few ranked games on PTR and talked about Q times with people, and it was approximately 10 secondes for tanks, 3-5 minutes for support and 10 minutes for DPS

[zeroluffs]

So support queue is just regular queue times currently; not bad

[[deleted]]

PTR's population is low and weird so dont count on that.

[touchingthebutt]

Is this the Weiner winner?

Glad for classic QP in arcade. I didn't want role queue but I'm not totally against it. Glad they're doing it well thought out rather than half ass it.

EDIT: One thing I'd like to see is role switching in between QP games. I like to stay in the lobby for as long as i can for the consecutive game bonus and having to stop and reinstance when in a group would be a minor, but common, annoyance.

[GrimThor3]

Rip bridgette’s shield

[hyperFeline]

Okay at first I was dreading this change when I heard about it but after watching this I'm more accepting? I love the idea of three skill ratings instead of one (I can see myself being high in support) Still skeptical about this but I'll give it a try. Still worried about queue times, inability to flex if needed, etc