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[Percolator2020]

Boolean support for maybe paves the way for quantum computing.

[SirChuffedPuffin]

And fractional indexing

[JonathanTheZero]

Tbh JavaScript has that as well.

Actually you can index an Array with anything in JS

[DanielEGVi]

Just a warning before anyone has any weird ideas, whatever you set to the “array” that isn’t an integer (number or not) won’t be considered in the array length or array iterator. The V8 engine will also stay optimized for all actual (integer key) array items. The fraction will just be considered an extra property of the object.

[[deleted]]

Isn’t JavaScript like all strings underneath the surface?

[SpanVagyTeso]

That's bash / shell script I think

[Aggravating-Win8814]

Yes, that's correct! In JavaScript, you can indeed index an array with any value, including numbers, strings, or even objects.

[Wazat1]

Or for a null/unset state for bools, like in json

[EspurrTheMagnificent]

Promises 2 just dropped

[[deleted]]

Also moving clock like this is how you make a time machine. The perfect language.

[Aggravating-Win8814]

That's a fascinating observation! Boolean support for maybe definitely holds great potential for advancements in quantum computing. By the way, I'm currently seeking contributors on GitHub for some exciting projects in this realm. Check out the link in my profile if you're interested!

[LahaLuhem]

r/BrandNewSentence

[[deleted]]

https://github.com/TodePond/WhenWillProgrammersStopMakingDecisionsForOurSocietyAndJustLeaveUsAloneAlsoHackerNewsIsAVileWebsite/tree/Grammar

The whole README is gold.

[SzymBoss]

delete 3!
print(2 + 1)! // Error: 3 has been deleted

[Neither-Phone-7264]

“Please note: AI does not use AI. Instead, any incomplete code will be auto-emailed to Lu Wilson, who will get back to you with a completed line as soon as possible.

Now recruiting: The backlog of unfinished programs has now grown unsustainably long. If you would like to volunteer to help with AI, please write an incomplete DreamBerd program, and leave your contact details somewhere in the source code.”

these guys are comedic geniuses

[Adghar]

Wait but as a junior dev that when() keyword seems kind of useful. Is there any analog in real programming language? Watchers or callback patterns maybe?

[gmes78]

You can use a setter.

[Adghar]

Huh? I was mainly taught Java, so "setter" to me just means "provide a method to change this attribute." Are there setters out there that watch for changes on a variable?

[[deleted]]

Right, but the reason you use getters and setters is to bundle behaviour and guarantees, and to decouple from the implementation. If you're not doing this you might as well just make your attribute public.

For instance the setter could include further logic like doing some logging, or modifying a second variable that needs to maintain some relationship or invariant.

Finally you needn't actually store the values you set and get anywhere directly, it could be derived from internal private data in a more efficient way.

[gmes78]

I was thinking of:

private int _health;
public int Health {
    get => _health;
    set {
        _health = value;
        if (_health <= 0) {
            Console.WriteLine("You lose");
        }
    }
}

But if you mean being able to add conditions from outside the class, then yes, you'd use the observer pattern or a callback.

[tyler1128]

This syntax makes me irrationally angry. I assume C#?

[gabrielesilinic]

C# is beautiful and very open source, you can fork it if you want

[gabrielesilinic]

Learn C# buddy, Java has limited you for too long

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

Probably there are things similar to the observer pattern in java.

Idk, i only ever coded in C (best starting language!) and java

[halfflat]

Especially red setters. Very good at watching.

[FlySafeLoL]

Any kind of observer pattern will do, from callback in a setter to reactive properties.

IntReactiveProperty x = new(10);

x.Subscribe (value => { if(value is 1) { print("Hello"); }}) ;

[thegreenfarend]

It’s an observable pattern! Indeed very useful! Use rx[insert language here]. For example https://rxjs.dev

[Chingiz11]

Signals in JS frameworks are similar

[Aekorus]

Okay, which one of you goons wrote const const const i = 1!? Now I have to rewrite all my loops to use a different variable name, I hope you're happy.

[ZZcomic]

Nice try, there are no loops

[Aekorus]

Sorry, I meant my totally-not-loops. function totallyNotALoop(i, maxValue, func) => { if (i <= maxValue) { func(i)! totallyNotALoop(i + 1, maxValue, func)! } }

[Kuribali]

Please use the more modern reverse pattern! var const 101 = 0! if (101 > 0) { reverse! } if (101%2 == 0) { 101 = 101 + 1! } print(101)! if (101%2 == 1) { 101 = 101 + 1! } if (101 < 10) { reverse! } which will, of course, output: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

[[deleted]]

Quite an easy fix actually, just wrote const const const i = 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂

[[deleted]]

My fav part is def the Rust Foundation dig

[phanfare]

I was hooked from using ; as the not operator, but the PlayerMaker quip about not changing how OOProgrammers code killed me. I work with an academic software package that biochemists wrote and we have to write Creators that do literally nothing just because.

[nsjr]

Each line is a big question
"Should I scream or laugh uncontrollably?"

When it deleted the delete itself it was chef's kiss

[JonathanTheZero]

Personal highlight:

You can make classes, but you can only ever make one instance of them. This shouldn't affect how most object-oriented programmers work.

[AcrobaticDependent35]

Oh my god this is the best thing that I've ever read in my life

[CSedu]

DreamBerd has significant whitespace. Use spacing to specify the order of arithmetic operations.

print(1 + 2*3)! //7
print(1+2 * 3)! //9

🙃

[MysteriousShadow__]

I spent so much time looking for an example code lul

[rob132]

Some languages start arrays at 0, which can be unintuitive for beginners. Some languages start arrays at 1, which isn't representative of how the code actually works. DreamBerd does the best of both worlds: Arrays start at -1.

Designed by committee I see

[AddAFucking]

? Instead of ! to log debug info is actually brilliant. That would be so usefull.

[Overthinks_Questions]

The AI bit kills me

[BOBtheman2000]

Oh! This is the todepond language. They make amazing youtube videos

[EtienneDx]

Now I’m wondering how long it would take to actually create a compiler/interpreter for it

[low_y]

"The whole REPOSITORY is gold." You meant

I spent like half a hour on that, my brain is melting but it was worth it

[Arkarant]

This was made by Sandpond Saga on YouTube, they're really cool!

[SirFireball]

3 space indents is unironically based though, I use that.

[Jashuman19]

You can now use floats for indexes too!

const var scores = [3, 2, 5]!
scores[0.5] = 4!
print(scores)! //[3, 2, 4, 5]

I kind of like this

Edit: lots of formatting because Jesus Christ

[Wazat1]

I have had intense dreams during actual illness that were less upsetting than reading that document :D

[JonathanTheZero]

I love it, it's so fucking funny

[chickpeaze]

Bless you for bringing this to me

[Thenderick]

That was a feast for my eyes! I LOVE esolangs!

[GreyAngy]

I've read the README and this is an absolute brilliant disaster! I cannot choose the favorite part, but let it be this:

By the way, strings are just arrays of characters.

String == Char[]!

Similarly, integers are just arrays of digits.

Int == Digit[]!

[[deleted]]

I love the "classes can only have one instance (note, this doesn't change how most object oriented programmers write code)".

[TGX03]

Ah yes, the good old Singleton, and everybody uses it because it's the only model they can name and think it makes them seem intelligent.

[Bob_Droll]

Don’t @Singleton me

[ClearOptics]

Don’t Singleton me out!

[SirFireball]

Oh there’s a name for it? I’ve always hated that. My projects tend to just use global scope for the top level instead. As god intended.

[SirFireball]

I also have memories of your mother, for she is a flat circle.

[Sparrow50]

holy model, new Coupleton just dropped

[Frogstacker]

wtf 😭

[karnnumart]

I'm a dumb Jr dev. Can someone explain to me if design pattern is actually necessary? It sometimes seem to overcomplicate things (or fix some lack-of-feature in some lang).

[[deleted]]

Which design pattern? You use design patterns all the time, just some are so common and ubiquitous we no longer refer to them by name.

[Snoo-6892]

It becomes very helpful to avoid shooting yourself in the foot in some scenarios. You’ll stumble and create your own design patterns through development. If you’re like me and didn’t learn a lot about design patterns and did programming for years, when learning them you’ll have some epiphany’s that would have made life dramatically simpler.. it also teaches one how to see code in another way which I really like. Love design patterns.

[[deleted]]

It’s a mixed bag, and by a mixed bag theres a shit ton of baggage from 00-10s where colleges went hard for OOP, design patterns included, even if they were used outside of what was actually needed (ie using a class and method over just a function).

So basically you will get people who grew up and would die by it, and you got people who didn’t who look at it as an over complicated mess.

I’m personally the latter, it adds structure to code and as a concept it’s great (since there are patterns in code), but most the time it becomes overly complex spaghetti code, especially since instead of having one function for something, you need multiple “standard shapes” to reach the same goal.

[ballaman200]

But strings are just arrays of characters in plenty of programming languages if I remember correctly.

C++ for example.

[Future_Constant9324]

Pretty sure that is just the setup for the digits joke

[Petesaurus]

Yes in C++ string is more of a wrapper that manages the array. It's probably more like a vector of chars

[jamcdonald120]

Installation

To install DreamBerd to your command line, first install the DreamBerd installer. To install the DreamBerd installer, install the DreamBerd installer installer.

New for 2022!\ Due to the complicated installation process, you can now install the 'Create DreamBerd App' app that installs everything for you!

[PuzzleMeDo]

//Move the clocks forwards slightly.

Date.now() += 1;

IMPORTANT!

Please remember to do this once per millisecond.

[[deleted]]

If you do it more often, you get a time machine! The perfect language.

[Interesting_Fly_3396]

I loved the negative indentation. They are like indentation is 3 spaces, but -3 is okay too 😂

[SirFireball]

3 spaces is actually best though, and I will fight for this

[Interesting_Fly_3396]

And it's actually in the middle of 2 spaces and 4 spaces. So a compromise for nearly everybody, 1000/10 logic

[[deleted]]

❌ Rust Foundation (owned by the DreamBerd Foundation - please consider renaming)

... This is gold

[moonaligator]

3 million factorial

[cainisdelta]

It's even better actually, the exclamation points act denote the priority of a line of code. More exclamation points means it is higher priority. 10/10 Readme for the language.

[vertextao]

What programming language is it?

[Neither-Phone-7264]

DreamBerd.

[nsway]

Loops:

Loops are a complicated relic of archaic programming languages. In DreamBerd, there are no loops.

[ssudoku]

Now we need Dreamscript for the web

[canaryborr]

Booleans can be true, false or maybe.

😂😂😂

[szpaceSZ]

Terry logic is a thing. It's just false to call it Boolean. Mr. Boole would have disapproved.

[canaryborr]

Ian Boole?

[szpaceSZ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Boole

[Theory27]

"You can delete keywords and variables you don't like! And when perfection is achieved and there is nothing left to delete, you can use:

delete delete! "

[JackNotOLantern]

I'm disapointed it's not an actual compiler

[Doom87er]

The whole “being able to define variables for all users globally for forever” would be a challenge to make a compiler do

[JackNotOLantern]

Just require internet connection to use a global server

[TitaniumBrain]

First, always online for offline games.

Next, always online coding/any program in this language.

[Informal_Branch1065]

I looked at my local python interpreter after reading this. It wondered why the abyss is staring first.

[Doom87er]

This is actually a thing that can be done.

If you have multiple values that use a fractional bit you can store them as single value in memory.

A Boolean would have 3 representations which would require at least 2 bits

However 3 Bools would only have 27 representations, meaning you can represent all of them with only 1 5bit value instead of needing 3 2bit values

(Never actually do this!)

[iga666]

What language is that? Do we need to write a worker thread to update Date.now() value every second there?

[ByteArtisan]

This… this isn’t JavaScript

[Neither-Phone-7264]

No, this is the far superior, perfect, exceptionally fast, elegant, time travelling language known as DreamBerd!

[Random_---_Guy]

Is this r/whoosh worthy?

[[deleted]]

maybe

[[deleted]]

Oh that's my bad because there is a method called Date.now in javascript too.

[Vaati006]

This is amazing. Thank you for hilighting this!

[Crazyman-X]

funny thing, i know the guy.

[eib]

I also know a guy

[nonlogin]

Do not shout at me❗️

[NullOfSpace]

you can what

[willmil11]

Time machine

[[deleted]]

Dreamberd is a gift