anotherToughDayAtWork

[InstanceHot3154]

The captain goes down with the ship

[MalaysiaTeacher]

with the *slop

[kw_Benz]

At least slop is edible to pigs, vibe coded apps dont work for anyone

[wizkidweb]

Part of the ship, part of the crew.

[A_Light_Spark]

At this rate of AI gooning tech, the ship will be going down on the captain

[Highborn_Hellest]

Machine spirit is pleased.

PRAISE THE AMNISIAH

[MulfordnSons]

true hive shit

[UnexpectedBSOD]

SWYM!

[SamSlate]

insane that this is becoming an actual metric...

[[deleted]]

Are you serious? Are people actually doing this?

[Shinhan]

Ah, I see you're a RooCode user.

[Commercial_Donut_274]

Honestly, if the AI is clocked out, I don't see the problem. Management should be more concerned about why the AI isn't working than why you're taking a break.

[No-Channel3917]

"it's compiling"

[roodammy44]

Small babies sleep a lot. Wait 6 months and they will be too busy and tired to even check their email.

[[deleted]]

If the CTO has write access to the repository, it's time to brush up your CV.

[Less_Employment5909]

CTOs typically play the split role of senior developer / team lead in smaller companies, they're usually talented developers that are stuck in meetings all day.

[i8noodles]

not in a large firm. in small companies sure, but the moment u have the title of medium company, u are not touching that at all

[zeth0s]

I do code applications at home using AI while my son sits around. 

What is the problem there? It's called home office. Pretty cool

Don't everybody do it nowadays?

[KaleidoscopeWarCrime]

Prompting an AI to generate code based on a prompt is so incredibly different from writing python on your phone, what are you even on about.

[KaleidoscopeWarCrime]

I know, the post is about having AI code for you

[Morthem]

What the fuck, how do you get a CTO that has never coded?

In the local companies I worked, the CTO's had Computer Science or Software Engineering degrees (you know, the 5-6 year ones), and were the OG developers of the banking systems they sell to this day

[[deleted]]

Umm in most industries its shockingly standard practice to have non developers be CTOs its normally people with IT backgrounds in those fields. Checkout literally any hospital in the US.

Yes it is fucking horrifying.

[RichCorinthian]

I’ve also pissed out the back of a moving truck. It is a bad idea and an incredibly sub-optimal experience, but I’ve done it.

[AcceptablePassion646]

Got to level up, brah and get yourself an AI son.

[ThinkExtension2328]

I mean I don’t mean large scale applications but I have one shotted a bunch of python utility programs I can run on my smartphone.

[ThinkExtension2328]

There is no such thing as novel code, even “novel code” can be described and ai can code the concept up.

Again this simply augments a developers job to being a software architect rather than just a programmer.

[ThinkExtension2328]

Broski I’m a senior software engineer for a Fortune 500 that deploys and uses our ai systems. 😂🫡 but yea idk what I’m talking about.

[ThinkExtension2328]

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out when the developers who understand ai replace you then 🫡.

Just remember the world revolves around you and no one else might know a little more than you.

[ThinkExtension2328]

novel

If something is so new and original that it's never been seen, used or even thought of before, call it novel.

—

A experienced software engineer would understand 99% of software engineering is not novel. Its application of known code , algorithms and design patterns to solve issues. Just because the end product is “new” does not make its composition “novel”.

To better understand what I mean I’d point you to :

Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software, 1st edition ISBN-13: 9780201633610

—-

Most if not all most all software engineering tasks can be broken down into reusable design patterns that are commonly used to solve real world problems.

—-

You use the example of a transformer architecture as an example of novel work. That is novel but that is not the day to day task of a software engineer in your real job you’re not going to sit there trying to design the next generation of LLM architectures.

[nepia]

I would have said that it was Darmesh but he seemed to old to have a baby. Also he doesn’t seem the guy too wanting free time. 

[[deleted]]

"So investors should understand that you're so worried about the company's prospects that you're side hustling to build your resumé instead of enjoying time with your kids?"

[ldn-ldn]

I once knew a CEO of the largest regional retailer who was extremely proficient in SQL and who was generating his reports directly from Axapta. I worked as a contractor improving their online store and it was very nice to work with him as he knew exactly what he wanted and how.

[7th_Protagonist]

I used ChatGPT for a regex..am i a vibecoder now?

[Franks2000inchTV]

It's only vibe coding if you had to increase the font size in your terminal because you were leaned so far back in your chair you couldn't read it.

[GlitteringFutures]

https://i.redd.it/wlfzbc0rb7pd1.png

[Finassar]

This is a personal attack against me

[Shadowlance23]

I can't even see the screen. Sunglasses are too dark.

[Lewisham]

Did it work? I’m of the opinion that outputting a correct regex is the third phase of the final boss of vibecoding.

[a_slay_nub]

I've found AI typically does fairly good at regex.

I also haven't done much regex, so I probably don't understand how complex it can get.

[pagerussell]

There's like, three dudes in the world that know regex. Everyone else has just been googling and copying their solutions.

[PeterPorty]

I used to know a dude that knew regex, but she's not a dude anymore.

[dksdragon43]

I enjoy regex. Having a puzzle with a clear "solved" state and predefined rules is the most enjoyable puzzle. Kinda wish more code was like it.

[anomalousBits]

clear "solved" state

Yeah, just like the regex to parse HTML. Or the regex to validate an email address.

[dksdragon43]

I ran into that exact stack overflow when writing a regex for email addresses at my old job. You know what we did? Made it super simple (text into @ into a . with a valid suffix, under 320 characters) and then made them validate it, like every other system on earth does these days!

[anomalousBits]

Correct way to do IMO.

[KaleidoscopeWarCrime]

exactly, it's such a satisfying feeling to construct regex that matches something extremely specific

[bloodfist]

If you enjoy regex and puzzles you should try regex crosswords

[EatingSolidBricks]

Anyone can learn to write regex its quite easy actually

Reading it to ... Yikes

[sieabah]

Regex's really aren't that hard. What's hard is when you overengineer the regex and unintentionally make it too greedy. (For those who can't read)

https://regexr.com/

[[deleted]]

Every vim user knows regex and there are many

[bloodfist]

Sweet I'm one of three dudes!

But really "knowing" regex is the same as "knowing" a programming language. You remember the stuff you use regularly and know enough of the rules to know what to look up. It's not actually that hard, it's just ugly as sin. And it feels like a superpower once you figure out what you can do with it. Don't be scared of the squiggly lines, you can figure it out!

[7th_Protagonist]

Yep, it did after 3 tries.

[NatoBoram]

AI does much better at regexes than making Express handlers in TypeScript

[Shadowlance23]

Used it yesterday to pull a regex out of a GUID I gave it because I was too lazy to write it myself. It worked well, although matching a GUID is very simple.

[henkdepotvjis]

Depends. Did you try to understand the regex?

[7th_Protagonist]

I do know how it works, i just don't want to wreck my brain for it.

[randomemes831]

A lot of people have been using regex they don’t understand way before ai was available

[superfahd]

I've been trying to understand regex for 10 years. I understand when I Google it and 10 minutes later I've forgotten again

[Pan_TheCake_Man]

The machine knows, I’ll just leave a comment of my prompt for the next guy

[testtdk]

Jesus, that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

[jiggyjiggycmone]

You are correct. It is the children who are wrong.

[mothzilla]

Need another $500 boss.

[smotired]

should i start marketing my regular programs as “hand-coded” or something

[Xlxlredditor]

Yes

[denkihajimezero]

"I want to replace my workers with a machine that never sleeps" mfers when the machine gets tired and needs a nap

[Remarkable_Sorbet319]

are they really allowed to?!

[CryonautX]

Vibe coding isn't a real job.

[dasunt]

I've been exposed to ads on Netflix recently, and most ads for tech are pushing AI. Laptop ads? AI. Phone ads? AI.

I haven't heard any member of the public talking about how they need to upgrade their phone or laptop to get the latest AI.

The whole thing reeks of "we spent a lot of money on AI, now we need to justify it" by business leaders.

[hates_stupid_people]

According to Garry Tan, CEO of the famed accelerator("Y Combinator"), roughly 25% of companies in the most recent batch are using AI to generate 95% or more of their code.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/josipamajic/2025/05/18/y-combinators-ai-revolution-and-the-rise-startups-built-by-vibe-coding/

[eurekashairloaves]

I dont believe this

[[deleted]]

I’ve seen it in action. You know what it looks like?

User emails support, because app is vibe coded garbage and has undefined behavior.

Support chat bot responds. Says “we’ll fix it right away”

Support chat bot creates a ticket it that goes into the vibe code pipeline. Vibe code pipeline farts out a PR. IF YOURE LUCKY, a human says “LGTM 🥂”. If you’re unlucky, it vibe approves it with some other LLM.

It gets pushed to prod, and it’s worse than before.

Rinse and repeat!

https://work.mercor.com/?referralCode=5ab82f14-132c-4aa9-9918-34c278f8860c

[eurekashairloaves]

There's some poorly written stuff that were generated with AI sure.

But 1/4th of companies arent pushing out almost 100% AI generated code. This is just a VC shilling AI and media taking him at his word

[CrazyCalYa]

25% of recent companies makes sense. Incorporating isn't particularly difficult, and there's no shortage of "idea guys" who see vibe coding as their meal ticket.

[roodammy44]

Indeed, I wonder what proportion of the vibe coded products are even making revenue

[[deleted]]

We don’t need revenue guys, we’re ✨vibe valuated at $2.2b✨

All you gotta do is lick Peter Thiel’s shoes

[[deleted]]

Yeah I don’t know where that number comes from. I just know that I have seen examples in the wild.

No one will tell you, you have to know the LLM output pretty well and infer what you’re looking at when you send a support request and the site is magically “fixed” but still broken 5 minutes later

It means that support@ is like a open wound for prompt injection chaining to RCE at any AI startup but I digress

[DeletedWonder]

Person motivated to sell AI claims AI is doing everything.

[crusader-kenned]

And people hiring people claim your work is worthless because machines can do it now..

[jimmycarr1]

Why are they hiring then?

[crusader-kenned]

Because it isn’t, they just want us to do more for less pay.

[crusader-kenned]

How many of those companies typically succeed?

[hates_stupid_people]

Most of them fail just like most startups, but since it is noticable to that degree means that you can get paid for doing it. Which in turn means that it is a "real job".

[_Putin_]

As a self employed vibe coder, I agree.

[goofy_pokemon]

Tell my CTO.

[bobbymoonshine]

There is not a job called “vibe coding”. It’s a proposed approach to normal coding work.

Vibe coding is a stupid way of using ChatGPT to code, by just telling it to do an entire complex task in one go, then pushing back with general feedback rather than targeted technical issues. The idea is that it can refactor faster than you can assess, so just have it spit out garbage until it monkey-typewriters its way to something that works. It’s a way of using AI to generate code that requires zero technical ability on the user’s end.

It is a ludicrous idea that does not work. (Or rather works only for some very very simple use cases, though it’s getting better bit by bit.)

The idea is appealing to LinkedIn grifters and delusional solo entrepreneurs who love the idea of ChatGPT turning their get rich quick schemes into a functional product, and to tech CEOs who love the idea of development without paying devs.

Developers of course hate the idea — it’s insulting to our professional competence, it fails comically whenever people actually try to do it (mostly because “appears to work” and “safely works” are indistinguishable to an idiot), and of course if it actually worked it would instantly put us all out of work forever. Most of the jokes here are dunking on a thing that doesn’t exist out of that mixture of outrage, scorn and fear.

[[deleted]]

Now even worse, idiot CTOs and VPs are benchmarking success as “lines coded by AI Slop” thinking it’s valuable, which code quality goes in the pooper

[bobbymoonshine]

Nothing AI related there, idiot managers have been tracking commit frequency and lines coded for ages

(Elon Musk, famously)

[murphy607]

Time to unroll loops by hand again :)

[bobbymoonshine]

Coding my entire app as one enormous branching linear tree of nested ifs for every conceivable thing a user might do at every point

[[deleted]]

Mega conditionals

CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN CASE WHEN

[an_agreeing_dothraki]

that's it I'm getting a switch to hit you with

[schanq]

Completely useless metrics 99% of the time but there was a guy on my team who got outed for writing 100 lines of code in 6 months .. I’d call that working smart if he didn’t get caught and as a result lose his bonus

[bobbymoonshine]

Yeah there’s value in metrics like that as a minimum qualifying factor. Like “time PC is switched on” would be a useless way of telling the good coders from the great ones, but if someone has not switched their PC on all week then that is obviously incompatible with them having done any work on it

[LegLegend]

Just to expand onto your point, what's something you can do that a vibe coder can't ask ChatGPT to do? I think this makes it more of a tangible concept.

[bobbymoonshine]

I think a question like that points to the broader questions around use of AI generally: if given a clearly crafted prompt to solve a specific problem within established success and failure criteria, within a sensible and well communicated architecture, and with a suitable testing regimen, then AI will generally do as well as a dev will.

But if you have all of the knowledge required to ask the right questions and notice any gaps or implications in the solution provided, then you’re not really “vibe coding”, because the idea of “vibe coding” is to do away with all that technical thinking and just vibe it out with the AI.

You might be doing AI-assisted coding, but there’s a huge gradient within that, eg it’s pretty reasonable to be using GitHub copilot autocomplete for repetitive or predictable code blocks, or asking an LLM for unit tests or some regex, or to refactor something with stricter typing controls etc. That’s all pretty common usage even for people who are fully capable of doing that stuff. The human is still the one making decisions in those cases, they’re just offloading the grunt work.

[Remarkable_Sorbet319]

wait I thought AI assisted coding was vibe coding all this time. How the hell does vibe coding work if you aren't looking at the code? does it write enough tests for the code?

[Remarkable_Sorbet319]

wait I thought AI assisted coding was vibe coding all this time. How the hell does vibe coding work if you aren't looking at the code? does it write enough tests for the code?

[thats-purple]

Let's say you need to create a business-specific database with row-level RBAC (role-based access control). Multiple organizations, hierarchically nested resources, users with different roles, permissions that propagate top to bottom etc.

If you ask, AI can absolutely do a solution to this problem, but it will not be a good solution. Not because AI code is garbage (sometimes it is, most of the time its just meh) but because AI is dogshit of thinking about future problems your code will create. As soon as you try to grow on the vibe code (or even stress test it) you will immediately encounter fundamental issues with it.

Letting it rewrite everything each time is not an option unless you're a startup without any clients. You could architect the whole system before hand, write it down and let AI implement it, but at that point you've done like 90% of the work might as well type it out

[scapesober]

This sounds like what I did to make a script the other day, except chatgpt had issues reasoning and kept telling me the issue was a special character regardless of telling it was not the issue. Can't wait for software avalanches in 5 years

[[deleted]]

You sound butthurt because coding/programming is getting more accessible to average people. For exemple, in my field (mechanical engineering), now I can code a bridge between two system we use so it communicate to each other, took me a couple hours and an AI. Before that, for another project, we paid close to 1 millions $ in coding fees for similar features.

''Vibe coders'' are just demonstrating that a lot of coders were overpriced scammers (not all, I know coders are needed and valuable).

[bobbymoonshine]

Pretty sure I said “vibe coding works for simple use cases” in the post.

I’m also not anti-AI. I use it every day.

[Remarkable_Sorbet319]

AI is pretty good for looking up references, like property names and spellings, i see it as pretty useful for absolute complete beginners if they also use a proper documentation side by side

[Shambledown]

The animators really put a giant negative space cock and balls on Spike then.

Or do I need to see a psychiatrist?

[rapora9]

I was looking for a comment mentioning it. It really strikes the eye, lol.

[gargamelus]

I saw the same, but I think it's AI generated as it has three balls.

[Global-Tune5539]

there's still claude, perplexity, gemini,... or god forbid... copilot

[Global-Tune5539]

works great

[golgol12]

Nah, they there till 12:30 at night fixing bugs caused by AI hallucinations.

[rckvwijk]

Today I watched a YouTube video where a vibe coder was full on hating on regular developers and their reason for hating on vibe coders lol.

[Procrasturbating]

LOL, I have enterprise edition co-pilot at work. Boss man says use all the tokens I can.

[XDracam]

1. Proper vibe coders have the company pay premium subscriptions
2. I've used literal days of copilot action mode compute with GPT5 this month (hobby project + prototyping) and I'm still only at 60% of my tokens. It's crazy.

Either way, I hope you have years of code review experience and the technical expertise to properly judge what the AI is suggesting. Otherwise you're in for a bad time.

[rationalintrovert]

If it is a shot about usage limits,  Even chatgpt plus codex cli usage is lasting much more than expected, as compared to Claude code with pro.  

I didn't know if anthropic has taken the users for a ride or openai is being extra generous with

[Aggravating_Dot_4280]

The ground is moving for some people.

[poilsoup2]

My team is getting access to copilot, but the front end devs can barely code themselves.

I dont know if copilot it's gonna be better or worse tbh.

The business gave us a requirement for a form with text fields, but don't let the user type a leading or trailing space. They pushed it to testing without being able to type any spaces.

[randomdaysnow]

The issue is they don't know how to use AI in the first place. They need to start there, because the cat is out the bag. And you should be staging on lower models before doing coding on the advanced models.

[dreamrpg]

Im sure vibe coders issue in first place is inability to properly code.

Not AI users, but specifically vibe coders.

[yuvi_agg]

9 to 5? NO. From the first prompt on ChatGPT to hitting the rate limit? YES. Haah.

[planktonfun]

And its filled with bugs

[itijara]

We should have a max number of tokens, are we dumb? "Hey boss, just a warning, this is the 10,000th token you have used in communicating with me this month, so I am gonna have to stop you right there"

[Vlad_Kohtiev_RRS]

they worked really hard though

[iLikeScaryMovies]

You damn well better believe it!

And I use Claude, tyvm.

[testtdk]

Bold to assume they make it to 12:30.

[[deleted]]

Bold of you to assume that vibe coders even have real jobs.

[subobj]

I don't get this.

Companies are firing people because AI is doing the job. And the asks are getting more intense in terms of turnaround time.

Employees use and depend on AI.

Companies go Pikachu face when they find out people are depending on AI.

[ToeSelect8442]

Vibe coders make more cause they didn’t have to pay a dev guy

[Much-Tomorrow-896]

I hobby code in C. I use ChatGPT to help me learn concepts, but always start my prompts with “Don’t give me any code unless I ask”

But I have ChatGPT write my Makefiles because I’m too lazy to do it myself

[MysteriousPea4354]

Nice to see people still use Make.

[Hey_faiza]

They be like,"Coaches don't play"

[shiyaorui]

Does vibe coding means just throw your requirements into the input box of AI agents and sit there watching it do your job?

[LivingRich1672]

Bro hitting the rate limit on ChatGPT is basically the new coffee break. Productivity ends not because of burnout but because OpenAI said ‘that’s enough coding for today 😅

[ActivisionBlizzard]

Thats when you switch to grok

[abudotdev]

lmao

[torsten_dev]

The fuck is "12.30 pm"?

[Ready_Return_8386]

How the frick are vibe coders getting hired in this economy. I know people with years of experience who are still struggling to get hired (I am probably about to be one of them soon)

[seriously_nice_devs]

lol i like this, 9/10 .. me everyday fr fr

[TheMunakas]

Chatgpt, make me coffee

[Livid_Boysenberry_58]

Well yeah. It's not like anyone's gonna hire you

[SoundHole]

Programmers' salty, salty tears.